Yale Psychiatry Grand Rounds: March 25, 2022
March 25, 2022Yochelson Lecture: "Beyond Beds: Trends in Crisis Services"
Debra A. Pinals, MD, Clinical Professor, University of Michigan
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- 00:00I'm very pleased to introduce
- 00:03you to Doctor Pineles,
- 00:06but I just wanted to give a
- 00:08little bit of background.
- 00:09For those of you who are
- 00:12new to our grand rounds,
- 00:16we've been very fortunate in that the.
- 00:21Yochelson family back in the early 1980s.
- 00:25Gave an endowment to our department.
- 00:30Or what was a lectureship at that time?
- 00:36And over the years,
- 00:38the Yale Investment Group has.
- 00:41Gradually expanded that lectureship
- 00:44into the ability to invite a scholar to
- 00:49come and spend a week with us and we
- 00:52work them to death by having them give
- 00:55grand rounds up at CVH case conferences.
- 00:58Work with the PG two fellows or
- 01:02or residents and our fellows.
- 01:05And it is really turned out into a.
- 01:09A very nice.
- 01:11Ability to invite people and get
- 01:14their input into our program
- 01:16as well as them letting C,
- 01:19as well as letting them see what we do.
- 01:23So.
- 01:26Just let me give a little bit of
- 01:29background here. Doctor yochelson.
- 01:34I went to Yale and was in the
- 01:37psychology department. And.
- 01:40Uh was doing very well there,
- 01:43and when he graduated he wanted
- 01:45to stay on on the faculty.
- 01:48But interestingly enough, at that time,
- 01:51Yale had a quota system for the number
- 01:53of Jews that could be in the department.
- 01:56And the department instead offered him,
- 02:01offered him to go to medical school here.
- 02:05So he took that up and became a
- 02:09psychiatrist and was in Buffalo
- 02:10for a while and then went to
- 02:13Saint Elizabeth Hospital,
- 02:15where he began a big study on
- 02:17looking at the criminal personality
- 02:20with another psychologist Stanton
- 02:23Census Salmon and they produce this
- 02:27three volume set which has waxed
- 02:30and waned and peoples interest
- 02:32over the years about the the.
- 02:34The meaning of it and trying to
- 02:37look at how criminals were different
- 02:39than people with mental illness.
- 02:45The they did looked at spent hundreds
- 02:49of hours with 255 criminals and this
- 02:53was all done at Saint Elizabeths
- 02:57when it was associated with an IMHO.
- 03:01Uh. And. So. The Yochelson family
- 03:10consists of the following.
- 03:12John and Bonnie are usually here
- 03:15in the audience with us and. No.
- 03:21I have been very gracious with their
- 03:24presence and contributions to a number
- 03:27of other areas in our department.
- 03:31John, I think it's in the middle of working
- 03:33right now and will will review this later,
- 03:36but he was here with us last night.
- 03:40To give you some and I some idea of who
- 03:44the prior lecturers and scholars were,
- 03:47you can see we have a pretty good array of
- 03:51who are well known in the forensic field.
- 03:55Both attorneys as well as psychiatrists.
- 04:01In the last few years we had Ray Patterson,
- 04:04John Bradford, Peter Ash,
- 04:06Renee Bender, Bill Resnick,
- 04:09Reid Meloy and Doug Mossman.
- 04:11And we began with Allen Stone and
- 04:13Myrna Diamond and Alan Dershowitz.
- 04:15So Paul Appelbaum, who are all
- 04:19well known leaders in the field.
- 04:24Deb is the director of the program
- 04:28in Law ethics, director of Forensic
- 04:31Evaluation Services for the University
- 04:33of Michigan and the medical Director,
- 04:36Behavioral Health and forensic
- 04:37programs in Michigan.
- 04:38Department of Health and Human
- 04:41Services for forensic psychiatry.
- 04:43Comprable to in some ways what
- 04:46Charles DK does here in our state.
- 04:50But she has had intimate contact
- 04:52with both state and university,
- 04:56both Michigan and in Massachusetts
- 04:59for a long period of time,
- 05:01and so has become very familiar
- 05:03with the kind of problems.
- 05:05That we struggle with.
- 05:09She trained earlier in Ohio.
- 05:12That did a medical internship as some of
- 05:16us did back in some part of our history.
- 05:20And then did her residency
- 05:22at mass Mental Health Center.
- 05:26And, uh, also a common.
- 05:29Place that a number of US George
- 05:32Heninger and I both also trained there.
- 05:38And then did a forensic
- 05:41fellowship up in Harvard as well.
- 05:44I won't go through her whole 79 page CV,
- 05:48but she. As you know,
- 05:51close to 70 peer reviewed Articles,
- 05:5431 book chapters, 2 books.
- 05:57On stalking Abal Uation
- 05:59for civil commitment.
- 06:02She's had a number of appointments,
- 06:05both in Michigan, case, Western and Harvard.
- 06:11And a wide variety of research
- 06:14interests, including schizophrenia,
- 06:15as she did some early work on ketamin.
- 06:20Legal regulation of psychiatric practice.
- 06:26And financing of behavioral health services.
- 06:31Opiate use disorders. Law enforcement.
- 06:37And disaster behavioral health.
- 06:41She is the current chair of the
- 06:44Council on Psychiatry and Law of the
- 06:47American Psychiatric Association and
- 06:49has had a long history as having
- 06:51a number of us with that group,
- 06:54which I consider the best
- 06:56continuing education in our field.
- 06:58And so she has worked on developing
- 07:01position papers and position and
- 07:04resource documents for the APA.
- 07:06On a variety of very topical subjects.
- 07:11One of which will be part
- 07:14of the discussion here,
- 07:16both on guns forced medication,
- 07:18competence to stand trial.
- 07:23And she's also been active in the
- 07:26American Academy of Psychiatry Law,
- 07:29which is our subspecialty organization,
- 07:32and has been the President.
- 07:38Tell me this does not look like Deb Pineals.
- 07:44I just noticed that I've had
- 07:46this on and then I couldn't.
- 07:48No, but not note the resemblance.
- 07:52So. Deb has been involved in the
- 07:57area now as all of psychiatry.
- 08:01Of what has happened in the post E.
- 08:03Institutionalization movement,
- 08:05the movement of patients
- 08:07into correctional facilities.
- 08:09Trying to get funding for people in the
- 08:13community to get diversion services.
- 08:16Housing that goes along with it
- 08:19and the enormous backup now in
- 08:21both forensic systems around
- 08:23the country and emergency rooms,
- 08:26and I think she's going to talk about
- 08:29some of the efforts to try to deal
- 08:32with how that has spread across the country.
- 08:34So with that,
- 08:36let me let them take over.
- 08:38Thank you.
- 08:42Well, thank you and I never saw that self
- 08:44resemblance until you pointed it out.
- 08:46I used that picture quite a bit for
- 08:49some of my talks, but thank you Howard,
- 08:51for that lovely introduction.
- 08:52And most of all, thank you all for honoring
- 08:55me with this prestigious opportunity
- 08:57to be the Yochelson visiting scholar.
- 09:00It's been quite an experience I've
- 09:02enjoyed every minute of it and
- 09:04I'm excited to share with you.
- 09:06Kind of a whirlwind tour of policy and
- 09:09activity that I've been involved in, and.
- 09:12I'll tell you the story about
- 09:14what I'm calling John beds,
- 09:16trends and crisis services.
- 09:22As I begin, my Howard already gave
- 09:24some of my background in addition
- 09:26to the titles that he said I,
- 09:28I do provide psychiatric expert witness
- 09:30work as well as systems consultation
- 09:32and and a consultant of Pew Charitable
- 09:35Trust and several federal entities.
- 09:38I don't have any conflicts of
- 09:40interest related to this presentation,
- 09:42and just as a reminder,
- 09:44these opinions in this talk are
- 09:46my own and not of other persons or
- 09:49entities with whom I am affiliated.
- 09:51So let me start by telling you
- 09:52what I plan to do,
- 09:54and then hopefully I'll be able to accomplish
- 09:56these learning objectives with you.
- 09:58First, I want to discuss current
- 10:00efforts to examine mental health
- 10:02services beyond beds and to help you
- 10:04understand what that actually means.
- 10:06Then I want to describe the
- 10:08evolution and launch of 988,
- 10:09which, interestingly enough,
- 10:10when we were talking about a variety of us
- 10:13were talking about what topics to present,
- 10:15and I mentioned 988,
- 10:16it wasn't clear to me that a
- 10:18lot of people had heard of it,
- 10:20so I would be very curious if somebody could.
- 10:22In the chat,
- 10:23if people had say whether
- 10:24they've heard of it or not,
- 10:25and somebody can give me that feedback,
- 10:27'cause I can't really watch
- 10:29the chat while I'm talking,
- 10:30and then finally I want to discuss
- 10:32the promises and challenges for the
- 10:35crisis services continuum of today,
- 10:37and I will warn you that some of this is.
- 10:41A lot of this, not my talk,
- 10:42but a lot of the work is a work
- 10:44in progress and there are many,
- 10:45many issues and many,
- 10:47many sensitivities around some of the
- 10:49issues that people are talking about
- 10:51at the policy table in terms of how
- 10:53best to meet the needs of people in crisis.
- 10:56So again,
- 10:57just to go back,
- 10:58the first goal is to discuss
- 11:00current efforts and to examine
- 11:01mental health services beyond beds.
- 11:03It's not clear exactly where
- 11:05to begin in this story.
- 11:06You could begin far before 1963,
- 11:09but I figured this is a good place in
- 11:11the historical development because a
- 11:12lot of people point to this and say
- 11:15about how President John F Kennedy
- 11:17passed the community mental Health
- 11:20Centers Act and identified that mental
- 11:24illness and developmental disabilities.
- 11:26As being among the most critical
- 11:28health problems he noted with his own
- 11:30family experience that they occur
- 11:32more frequently affect more people
- 11:34require more prolonged treatment,
- 11:35cause more suffering by the
- 11:37families of the afflicted,
- 11:38and waste more of our human resources
- 11:40and constitute more financial drain
- 11:42than any other single condition.
- 11:44Of course, again,
- 11:45he was touched with this with his own family,
- 11:49and,
- 11:49you know,
- 11:50we will never know if he had not been shot.
- 11:53How the world of Community mental
- 11:55health might have unfolded after this.
- 11:57Tractors past,
- 11:58but Fast forward to 2017 where I'm
- 12:01going to continue the journey and help
- 12:03you understand what we're talking
- 12:05about at at state and federal levels.
- 12:08In 2017 there were endless endless
- 12:12articles in endless jurisdictions
- 12:14of the problems that we were facing.
- 12:17It seemed everyone was burdened
- 12:19backlog and waiting for beds and
- 12:21whether it was waiting in jail or
- 12:23waiting in emergency departments.
- 12:25These problems were getting picked up.
- 12:27I would like to say that today
- 12:29the problems are solved,
- 12:30but I can tell you that I asked my last
- 12:32students to pull articles on similar
- 12:34topics and they have no shortage of.
- 12:37There are no shortage of articles
- 12:38that still come out to this day,
- 12:40but that doesn't mean that we aren't
- 12:42trying to turn a very big ship and
- 12:45move it in a better direction so that
- 12:47what we have to do is vision a future.
- 12:50But nevertheless in 2017 with
- 12:53this problem arising I was.
- 12:57And many access to care and
- 12:59health care questions.
- 13:02Behavioral health issues being questioned.
- 13:05I was given the opportunity and asked
- 13:06on behalf of the National Association
- 13:08of the State Mental Health program
- 13:10directors to write a paper to try and
- 13:13help the media understand that we can't
- 13:15build ourselves out of this problem.
- 13:18There was a lot of advocacy to expand
- 13:21state hospital beds because of the
- 13:23idea that they had been contracted and
- 13:25we're in this mess because of that.
- 13:27And so, although in this paper we
- 13:29don't say we don't need more beds.
- 13:31What we tried to articulate is that
- 13:34there is no calculation that is known
- 13:37to be exactly accurate for what beds
- 13:40are needed in a particular jurisdiction,
- 13:43because much of it involves
- 13:44understanding what else is available
- 13:47as an alternative to beds in the old
- 13:49days when state hospitals were the only
- 13:51resource for any number of ailments,
- 13:53whether it was a neurocognitive
- 13:55decline in condition, neurosyphilis,
- 13:57intellectual disability,
- 13:59poverty, what have you?
- 14:02They were the catchall places
- 14:04where people went in addition to
- 14:06people with serious mental illness.
- 14:07But we have a whole host of
- 14:10other types of of.
- 14:11Opportunities now going on
- 14:13and ways that our policies,
- 14:15including the Americans with
- 14:16Disabilities Act and other things
- 14:18are having us look at what can be
- 14:20done in a Community based setting.
- 14:22And so my colleague Doris Fuller,
- 14:24who was a former Washington Post journalist,
- 14:26and at that time was the head of
- 14:28the treatment advocacy Center.
- 14:30Worked with me to coauthor this paper,
- 14:33which was, interestingly enough,
- 14:35jointly released because these the
- 14:37treatment advocacy center is not always,
- 14:39you know,
- 14:40advocating for the same things
- 14:41that state mental health program
- 14:43directors are advocating for,
- 14:44but in this particular moment in
- 14:46time there was a joint decision to,
- 14:49through the help of the substance abuse
- 14:51and mental Health Services Administration,
- 14:53which funded the work to help people
- 14:55understand that we need to think beyond
- 14:58beds and to really look at the vital role.
- 15:01Of a full continuum of psychiatric care,
- 15:04just like we see in medical care and
- 15:05through a technical assistance work group,
- 15:08we came up with ten recommendations.
- 15:10First to recognize the importance
- 15:12of the vital continuum.
- 15:13To get clear on terminology of even
- 15:16what a bed means to look at what we
- 15:19can do to reduce the penetration
- 15:20of population and illness from
- 15:23just from criminal,
- 15:24legal and juvenile justice settings
- 15:26to look at emergency treatment access.
- 15:29What psychiatric beds offer.
- 15:31Data driven solutions.
- 15:33The importance of linkages
- 15:34so that people just don't,
- 15:36you know,
- 15:37fall off the radar when they are
- 15:39leaving one place or another.
- 15:41One support system or another.
- 15:43The use of technology,
- 15:44the importance of expanding the workforce,
- 15:46including the peer workforce
- 15:48and the importance of expanding
- 15:50to nontraditional partners,
- 15:52including faith based organizations.
- 15:54Families with lived experience and the like,
- 15:57and this paper has been cited.
- 16:01Over and over again and really
- 16:04has tried to help address some of
- 16:06these important policy issues.
- 16:08In fact,
- 16:09the EPA has undergone under
- 16:11President Jeff Geller
- 16:12a workgroup looking at bed need and
- 16:14will be issuing a report from that
- 16:16task force and looked at that paper
- 16:19too as one of its informational items.
- 16:21The other thing that was happening in 2017
- 16:24and if you were at some of my other talks,
- 16:26you might have heard me talk about this,
- 16:28was that there had been a Group A
- 16:30promulgation of this sequential.
- 16:31Intercept model which was established
- 16:34and you know it was developed in 2006,
- 16:372006 in a psychiatric services article
- 16:40and then adopted by policymakers and
- 16:43advocates and essentially incorporated
- 16:45into the 21st Century Cures Act and
- 16:48basically what the Sequential INTERCEPT
- 16:51model is is is it's almost like a
- 16:53public health approach to the over
- 16:55penetration of people with mental illness
- 16:57in the criminal system and basically
- 16:59what it says is if we can identify.
- 17:01Where they are in the path towards
- 17:04deeper end criminal involvement and
- 17:05intercept that path and re-route them
- 17:07into more appropriate treatment settings.
- 17:10We can potentially bend that curve
- 17:12and reduce that penetration when
- 17:14the model was first developed,
- 17:15it started with the law enforcement
- 17:17intercept because it was recognized that
- 17:19you don't get into the criminal system
- 17:21without an interaction with law enforcement.
- 17:24However, in 2017.
- 17:25Colleagues at the at Policy
- 17:29Research Associates led by Dan Abru,
- 17:32added INTERCEPT 0 to the Sequential
- 17:35Intercept model,
- 17:36recognizing that the crisis care
- 17:38continuum would be the the way
- 17:40to avoid in the 1st place,
- 17:42requiring that police encounter.
- 17:44In addition,
- 17:45many things were happening around that time,
- 17:47and these are just things that
- 17:49are that were available.
- 17:50There were many different
- 17:52crisis centers established.
- 17:53There was a rent something called
- 17:56the Restoration Center that
- 17:57had been established in 2014,
- 17:59trying to do some police based diversion.
- 18:02There were the zero suicide protocols
- 18:04to help reduce the risks of suicide and
- 18:07suicide rates were going on going up,
- 18:09and so there's been a lot of funnels that
- 18:12have sort of pointed us towards looking at.
- 18:14Crisis services from there through
- 18:16the National Association of State
- 18:19Mental Health program directors.
- 18:21I and some colleagues also helped establish
- 18:24other papers that you can see online.
- 18:27These are in the grey literature.
- 18:28One was called Boulder,
- 18:29Goals better results which was really
- 18:32trying to identify like we do for cancer.
- 18:34Very high level goals like 0 homelessness,
- 18:380 suicide to try and really helps us
- 18:42as policymakers and and you all as
- 18:46practitioners to really try and drive,
- 18:48change and make things different like we've
- 18:51seen in many other medical conditions.
- 18:53And furthermore,
- 18:54in 2019 there was a look across the
- 18:57seas at the international community to
- 18:59see what was happening in different
- 19:02dimensions to help learn from their
- 19:05experiences as opposed to only
- 19:08having the other other countries
- 19:09learn from the United States.
- 19:11It seemed that we could learn from
- 19:13them and then, lo and behold,
- 19:15COVID came and we have seen,
- 19:17as you know, major major system shifts,
- 19:21and we are still reeling from those shifts.
- 19:23And there is nothing that is totally
- 19:26settled with our experiences.
- 19:29Ironically, in February 2020,
- 19:31just as COVID was emerging in the United
- 19:36States, Samsa issued the national
- 19:38guidelines for behavioral health
- 19:41crisis care best Practice toolkit.
- 19:44And this toolkit got a lot of
- 19:46attention by people paying attention,
- 19:49but frankly, because of the timing,
- 19:51it it perhaps didn't get seen as much,
- 19:54but it remains now.
- 19:55A lot of people are talking about it.
- 19:57It has become sort of a a Bible if you will.
- 20:01Of policymakers around what the
- 20:03goals are for crisis care and.
- 20:06And again,
- 20:06I'll be curious if someone can
- 20:07tell me at the end how many people
- 20:09had heard of 988 so from there
- 20:11another paper was written in 2020.
- 20:14That people recalled meeting need crisis
- 20:16services meeting needs saving lives in
- 20:19which we were trying to imagine the future.
- 20:21Looking at our current
- 20:23problematic crisis system,
- 20:24which all too often involves a
- 20:26person in crisis where the only
- 20:28option is 911 or law enforcement.
- 20:31And that means an arrest or an emergency
- 20:34department which is flooded with
- 20:35psychiatric patients who maybe don't
- 20:37need an emergency department level of care.
- 20:39And obviously,
- 20:40if there is an arrest,
- 20:41we've got all sorts of other issues that are.
- 20:44Lead to negative consequences when that
- 20:47may not be the appropriate response.
- 20:50And So what we envisioned with SAMHSA
- 20:52with the National Association of
- 20:54State Mental Health Program directors
- 20:56was a model crisis continuum that
- 20:58really looked more robust with
- 21:00more elements within that continuum
- 21:02that could meet people's needs as
- 21:05they had them at different levels
- 21:07with different types of staffing.
- 21:09The use of peers,
- 21:11more community services while
- 21:13using evidence based programs.
- 21:15But a whole range of approaches
- 21:17beyond just the emergency department
- 21:19or law enforcement response,
- 21:21and furthermore,
- 21:22even going upstream as we keep
- 21:24doing with this intercept idea,
- 21:27is trying to build in warm lines
- 21:29where people can call so that
- 21:31you can avoid a crisis and that
- 21:33would be the ideal altogether.
- 21:35The core elements in the guidelines
- 21:38and toolkit included having a
- 21:40regional or statewide crisis call
- 21:42center that coordinated in real time,
- 21:44deploying mobile crisis everywhere, anywhere.
- 21:47Having a 23 hour crisis receiving
- 21:50and stabilization program and using
- 21:52essential crisis care principles
- 21:55with a service array that would
- 21:57include suicide prevention.
- 21:58Person centered care strategies
- 22:00to meet people in distress,
- 22:02whether they have a mental
- 22:03health condition or a substance,
- 22:05use, condition, or both.
- 22:07Reducing the use of psychiatric
- 22:09hospital beds if those were not needed.
- 22:11Providing a resource to eliminate
- 22:13psychiatric boarding in the
- 22:15emergency departments and providing
- 22:17a viable solution to the drains
- 22:19on law enforcement resources in
- 22:21the community and being crucial in
- 22:23reducing fragmentation of mental
- 22:25health care and essentially Samsa,
- 22:27has been positing the idea.
- 22:29At these crisis hubs would be warm,
- 22:32welcoming and available to anyone,
- 22:34anywhere,
- 22:35anytime regardless of insurance
- 22:36or any other issue that they would
- 22:39be trauma informed,
- 22:40person centered and link people
- 22:42to clear pathways if next
- 22:45steps are needed. In addition,
- 22:47there's a lot of discussion about how to
- 22:50blend technology with human resources
- 22:52by utilizing an air traffic control
- 22:54methodology of of routing calls and
- 22:56making sure that the highest priority
- 22:59calls are getting the quickest response.
- 23:01Utilizing GPS tracking.
- 23:02For example, if there's a safety
- 23:04issue where an individual needs to
- 23:06be given a more immediate attention,
- 23:09access to data systems to understand when,
- 23:11for example, Doctor Crystal has an
- 23:13opening in his clinic that somebody could.
- 23:16Make an appointment for and also looking
- 23:19at data to help inform best practices.
- 23:22Also taking lessons learned from
- 23:24what's happened with COVID-19 and
- 23:26testing access and access to services
- 23:28that people have through 211,
- 23:30which nationally is kind of an
- 23:33information line for resources.
- 23:34If you want to find your local domestic
- 23:36violence shelter or you want to
- 23:38find a local mental health provider,
- 23:39many states utilize 211 for this information,
- 23:42so it would be an amalgamation of all
- 23:44of these activities and in many ways.
- 23:47A lot of what was happening.
- 23:49Was really looking at driving forward
- 23:52some of the recommendations that had
- 23:54come out of that original beyond beds
- 23:57paper on building out that continuum
- 23:59focused on the crisis care continuum
- 24:01and establishing other elements.
- 24:03So now you understand a little bit
- 24:05about where this beyond beds framework
- 24:08comes from and what the thinking is
- 24:10is to really build a robust continuum
- 24:12of care so that we can get people
- 24:15into beds when they need them,
- 24:16but not have people waiting for them.
- 24:19Or or going into them if they don't
- 24:21need them and also helping people
- 24:23get out of them when and discharge
- 24:25to appropriate settings so that more
- 24:27people who need them can get in.
- 24:29So that brings me to my second goal,
- 24:32which is to describe the evolution
- 24:35and launch of 988.
- 24:38Alright,
- 24:38So what is 988 and where did it come from?
- 24:42Well,
- 24:42first of all you have to understand the
- 24:45context so we there are many catalysts
- 24:47that have driven us to where we are today.
- 24:49In the crisis response system
- 24:51as I and I've mentioned,
- 24:52many of these,
- 24:53but we have suicide rates that people
- 24:56are attention paying attention to.
- 24:57We have COVID-19 the opioid overdose crisis,
- 25:01which is now equally a methamphetamine
- 25:04crisis.
- 25:04We have these problems with needing
- 25:06more jail diversion.
- 25:07And then we have this huge new
- 25:09influx of of concerns about law
- 25:11enforcement and their involvement
- 25:13in mental health crisis prevention
- 25:16services for children and adolescents.
- 25:18Many,
- 25:19many states are getting sued and trying
- 25:21to build out better practices for children.
- 25:24Connecticut has some very good models
- 25:27but we have lots of places where the
- 25:29mental health systems are getting sued.
- 25:31Regulations are making it difficult
- 25:32to achieve some of the goals and we're
- 25:35having to modify lots of different things,
- 25:38including laws.
- 25:38I can tell you in Michigan,
- 25:39we've modified our commitment
- 25:40log twice in the last six years.
- 25:42Since I've been there.
- 25:44So many things are driving the
- 25:46need for a better crisis response system,
- 25:49and of course, as I mentioned
- 25:50in the law enforcement category,
- 25:52rather than defaulting to a law
- 25:55enforcement crisis response,
- 25:56many people have been talking about
- 25:58for a long time more than just be a
- 26:02specialized police response like CIT.
- 26:04When police are necessary,
- 26:05a collaborative police based police
- 26:07based mental health response.
- 26:09Or just a mental health response when that
- 26:12can be done appropriately and safely.
- 26:15And this is a really exciting
- 26:17area of development.
- 26:18So in July of 2020,
- 26:21almost a year ago,
- 26:23the FCC passed the the the rule,
- 26:27the ruling that 988 would be
- 26:30the new number for the National
- 26:32Suicide Prevention Lifeline.
- 26:34I don't know how many of you have
- 26:35those magnets for your refrigerator
- 26:37or signs for your offices,
- 26:38which frankly you should have,
- 26:40and it gives a number for this
- 26:42national suicide prevention lifeline.
- 26:44But it's a long number people
- 26:46had difficulty remembering it
- 26:48and there was a lot of advocacy.
- 26:50Just on that issue alone,
- 26:52to make a simpler number for people
- 26:54to call for suicide prevention and
- 26:56so 988 became a reality in 2020.
- 26:59Now it has not gone.
- 27:00Live it it is going to go live this
- 27:03year in July and many states are
- 27:06gearing up vigorously for this.
- 27:09Having received planning grants and
- 27:11doing a lot of ramping up activities
- 27:13because it will be a national number.
- 27:15And when you think about it in the
- 27:18world before 911 when people had to
- 27:20call 1 number for poison control.
- 27:21Another number for fire,
- 27:23another number for a heart attack.
- 27:26A lot of lessons had to be learned
- 27:28to to develop a 911 system and now we
- 27:32are introducing A988 system so it's exciting.
- 27:36It's scary.
- 27:37There's a lot of work to be done and and
- 27:39still a lot of lessons to be learned.
- 27:42But there are states that are
- 27:43passing legislation to make it a
- 27:45reality to figure out how it's going
- 27:46to get funded and all sorts of
- 27:48details that have to be worked out.
- 27:50You may have seen this with.
- 27:52This is such a hot issue.
- 27:53You may have seen that this was
- 27:55written about in the New York Times a
- 27:56couple weeks ago in an in an article
- 27:58that sort of warned that maybe
- 28:00we're not going to be ready for it,
- 28:01and so I'm just going to tell you
- 28:02some of the things that are happening.
- 28:04And yes,
- 28:05there is a lot of work still to be done.
- 28:08So in 2020,
- 28:09around this same time this paper
- 28:11crisis services meeting needs saving,
- 28:14lives was written to really try
- 28:16and look at this crisis service
- 28:18array in a deeper way,
- 28:20trying to understand how to make
- 28:22services accessible, interconnected,
- 28:24effective and justly applied.
- 28:27And in that work we did a survey of
- 28:29mental health leaders around the country,
- 28:31and they identified a number of
- 28:33concerns and bear about barriers
- 28:35that might come up around 988.
- 28:38Implementation first of all,
- 28:39workforce shortages has been
- 28:41a huge issue on the minds
- 28:43of any mental health leader.
- 28:45Also, there were concerns about how
- 28:46do we address the needs in rural
- 28:49communities compared to urban,
- 28:50do we have the right technology?
- 28:52Do we have the right crisis
- 28:54system infrastructure?
- 28:55Do we have the funding?
- 28:57How are we going to meet the needs of
- 28:59diverse populations and geographies?
- 29:01Do we have sufficient bed
- 29:03capacity for crisis beds?
- 29:04If we identify a crisis and
- 29:06somebody needs to go to a bed?
- 29:08For even a brief period of time,
- 29:11and how are we going to ensure
- 29:1324/7 availability like 911?
- 29:14And how are we going to look at
- 29:16what law enforcement emergency
- 29:17medical and mental health system
- 29:19collaboration is going to look like?
- 29:21And then a couple of mental health leaders
- 29:23talked about legislative barriers,
- 29:25so this was a survey done in 2020.
- 29:28So now the key areas of focus that are
- 29:30going to shape our future outcomes
- 29:32are really what we're working on.
- 29:34And there's several areas that
- 29:36I just want to highlight.
- 29:38One is that we have this pandemic that
- 29:41has been kind of in our way in a major way,
- 29:44and there's a lot of work in
- 29:46disaster behavioral health.
- 29:47Looking at emotional responses to disasters,
- 29:50and this is just a graph that I use a
- 29:52lot of times in my in my talks about this.
- 29:54These issues is that there's there's
- 29:57this collective community response,
- 29:59but one of the things we understand
- 30:00with COVID is that it's a very
- 30:02variable response for the community,
- 30:04because some people may have been
- 30:06more directly impacted with.
- 30:07With death in their family or with
- 30:09their loved ones with getting the
- 30:11illness everybody pivoted around
- 30:12the lockdowns and things like that.
- 30:14But it's really a complex aftermath
- 30:17and what we've been seeing through
- 30:19the CDC's Household Pulse survey,
- 30:21which is done every two weeks and
- 30:23has been done through the pandemic,
- 30:25is that we're seeing about 30%
- 30:27of Americans reporting anxiety
- 30:29or depression on validated scale
- 30:32screening scales that look like
- 30:34they're pretty significant.
- 30:36And this I've been following
- 30:37these maps in my role.
- 30:39Because I report out on our COVID
- 30:43you know our regular COVID calls.
- 30:46This is pretty concerning that we
- 30:48have this many people in distress.
- 30:50It's not surprising,
- 30:51but it is pretty concerning,
- 30:53especially for people like all
- 30:54of us in this audience who are
- 30:56trying to meet the demands.
- 30:58While the demands may be growing.
- 31:01There's also a lot of lessons
- 31:03learned in COVID about disparities.
- 31:05There were there were similar lessons
- 31:07learned in the 1918 pandemic,
- 31:09and and I think it's worth understanding
- 31:12how the different waves of that
- 31:15pandemic affected different populations
- 31:17at different times depending on
- 31:19neighborhoods and socioeconomic status,
- 31:21and we saw the same thing with COVID-19.
- 31:25We've also seen how disparities impact
- 31:28these deadly outcomes with law enforcement.
- 31:31And that the disparities in prevalence of
- 31:34negative social determinants of health.
- 31:36And so we know that any services
- 31:38that are built out have to be
- 31:40built out with a lens of
- 31:42equity and trying to figure out how
- 31:44best to do that is complicated.
- 31:46And so we also have these challenges
- 31:50of the workforce where you know,
- 31:52are we going to have the workforce we need,
- 31:54or do we need to expand the types of
- 31:56individuals that would be working in this
- 31:59crisis domain to help address the needs?
- 32:01Of course technology has
- 32:03been greatly advanced,
- 32:04but there's still places where
- 32:06there may be limited access to
- 32:08equipment or the Internet even,
- 32:09and so if we build out a crisis service,
- 32:11that's something like a 911,
- 32:13but for behavioral health crisis,
- 32:15will we be able to meet those needs?
- 32:18So where do we go from here?
- 32:20The needs clearly are still great.
- 32:22There's clearly a lot of
- 32:24challenges that still remain,
- 32:26and we have a lot to sort out in
- 32:29this 2021 ready to respond compendium
- 32:32of papers that I helped work on.
- 32:35There's many different threads
- 32:37that we built out,
- 32:40and if anyone is interested in this,
- 32:42these are available at the Nashville website.
- 32:44They're free, downloadable,
- 32:45really useful papers to
- 32:47understand what's happening.
- 32:48And in this we identified several priorities.
- 32:51One is to continue to drive the policy
- 32:54and funding for expanding and achieving
- 32:57a full continuum of psychiatric services.
- 33:00The second priority related to
- 33:03rebuilding and rebooting a robust,
- 33:05diverse and well qualified workforce trying
- 33:07to bring people back into the workforce.
- 33:10Many states are looking at things like
- 33:13loan repayment programs and other
- 33:15incentives to drive younger people,
- 33:17or people who might.
- 33:18Otherwise,
- 33:19turn to other professions back into
- 33:21the world of mental health services.
- 33:24Also expanding telehealth practice.
- 33:27While ensuring ongoing quality
- 33:29and access priority,
- 33:31four is fostering integration of
- 33:33disaster behavioral health into
- 33:35emergency preparedness and response.
- 33:38Priority five being considering
- 33:40creative financial opportunities to
- 33:42maximize access to crisis response
- 33:44and other community based mental
- 33:46health and substance use services
- 33:47with no wrong door,
- 33:49so states are literally looking at
- 33:50whether you know to use some of the
- 33:53same cell phone taxes that we have
- 33:54that some that contribute to 911 or
- 33:57other payment mechanisms to help fund
- 33:59this type of infrastructure that's necessary.
- 34:02And there's the idea,
- 34:04of course,
- 34:04that we need to focus
- 34:06intentionally on diversity,
- 34:07equity and inclusion to reduce the
- 34:09disparities in mental health outcomes.
- 34:11And I'll say a little bit more
- 34:13about that later and then priority.
- 34:14Seven that we identified was to
- 34:17enhance interconnectedness with
- 34:18other systems and across borders
- 34:20for improved global responses we
- 34:22saw in the pandemic that we are
- 34:25not alone in the United States that
- 34:27these waves move across borders
- 34:29and needs move across borders.
- 34:31And just like we have to.
- 34:33Figure out how to work between you know
- 34:35Connecticut and Michigan if necessary,
- 34:37because these call centres
- 34:38the way it works is.
- 34:39The idea is that most of the calls
- 34:41are supposed to be handled locally,
- 34:43but if the all the local lines
- 34:44are tide up they will get bounced
- 34:46to another region and that region
- 34:48is going to have to have that
- 34:51interconnectedness to know what's
- 34:52available in the existing region.
- 34:54And so there's a lot going on
- 34:57around that interconnectedness.
- 34:58So that is the story of 988 and
- 35:03a background to what is coming.
- 35:07And now finally my last goal for you is
- 35:10to discuss the promises and challenges
- 35:12in a little bit more detail because
- 35:14I've touched on a few that obviously
- 35:17bring up some controversial issues,
- 35:19but I want to dive into
- 35:21them a little bit more.
- 35:23So first of all, realize that people
- 35:25are really excited about this.
- 35:27This was from our mental
- 35:28Health Commissioner survey.
- 35:29One commissioner said.
- 35:30We are very excited about the
- 35:32work of 988 and what it means for
- 35:35individuals experiencing a mental
- 35:36health crisis in the United States.
- 35:37We look forward to continue work to
- 35:40realize the vision for all Americans.
- 35:43It is a lofty, lofty test.
- 35:44And remember that mental health
- 35:47commissioners have traditionally
- 35:48been focused by design by statute,
- 35:50by funding on the seriously
- 35:53mentally ill population.
- 35:54While they remain the state
- 35:56authority on mental health matters,
- 35:58and so now when we talk about 988,
- 36:01we're not just talking about people with
- 36:03serious mental illness who are served
- 36:05in a community mental health system.
- 36:07We're talking about me and you,
- 36:09and anybody who calls the number
- 36:11who's in a behavioral health crisis
- 36:13and needs some kind of assistance.
- 36:16So the work is broad.
- 36:17It's exciting,
- 36:18but there is a lot of things to consider.
- 36:21For example, lot of discussion now,
- 36:23about least.
- 36:24Intrusive measures that when somebody
- 36:26calls for a behavioral health crisis,
- 36:28how do we meet their needs in a way
- 36:31that will not include invading,
- 36:33invading their persons,
- 36:35but also finding ways to save lives?
- 36:38If we need to save lives and that
- 36:40means that we have to look at
- 36:41what are our laws and authorities.
- 36:43Lots of discussion now I can
- 36:45tell you in Michigan,
- 36:46we're looking at our laws related
- 36:48to police pickups related to
- 36:50the work of people that are an
- 36:52assisted outpatient treatment.
- 36:53Trying to understand where
- 36:55psychiatric advance directives.
- 36:56Fit in and how?
- 36:57If a responder goes out to a
- 36:59scene and an individual has a
- 37:01psychiatric advance directive,
- 37:02how that might play out?
- 37:04There's also issues with EMTALA,
- 37:06which is the emergency medical
- 37:08treatment and Labor Act,
- 37:10which is really was really designed.
- 37:13It was sort of a quote anti dumping
- 37:15law which was designed to say
- 37:17that if if people were coming into
- 37:19emergency departments they had to
- 37:21be stabilized before they could be
- 37:23transferred and not just transferred
- 37:25because of inability to pay.
- 37:26And so how does EMTALA fit in with all
- 37:29of this new behavioral health crisis work?
- 37:32I think a lot of that remains to be seen,
- 37:34and then information sharing with both HIPAA,
- 37:37the mental health and
- 37:39medical confidentiality,
- 37:40confidentiality statute,
- 37:40and 42 CFR Part 2 which governs
- 37:43the confidentiality of people
- 37:46receiving substance use services,
- 37:48which is more restrictive than HIPAA.
- 37:51We have to be able to navigate that because
- 37:53if the individual comes into a crisis center.
- 37:56Let's say in in Middlebury,
- 38:00but they're getting methadone
- 38:01treatment in new New Haven.
- 38:03Will there be access to that information?
- 38:06And these are really important
- 38:08things for us to sort through.
- 38:11OK, you can't talk about crisis services
- 38:13without bringing up this topic of law
- 38:16enforcement in the in the crisis conundrum.
- 38:18And I will tell you that
- 38:19as controversial as it is,
- 38:20and as much as people begin with,
- 38:22defund police,
- 38:23people are moving more towards the center,
- 38:26but not entirely.
- 38:28There's definitely still advocates
- 38:30that want zero involvement of
- 38:32police in a mental health crisis.
- 38:34And then there's others that are
- 38:37trying to look at other avenues.
- 38:40And I'll talk a little bit
- 38:41about what other avenues.
- 38:42Is being developed I think,
- 38:44where where the policies are
- 38:46settling is trying to get the
- 38:48right response at the right time.
- 38:50I recently showed a video to my law
- 38:53students of a man with schizophrenia who
- 38:55is wielding a knife towards his mother.
- 38:57His mother was frightened and called
- 39:00police and the police came in and
- 39:01and were able to deescalate him.
- 39:03But in the video that was shown
- 39:06there was a gun drawn and the
- 39:08law students really reacted and
- 39:09didn't and and talked about.
- 39:11Why couldn't a social worker
- 39:12go to that scene?
- 39:13There's some other mental health
- 39:15professional to quiet the situation down.
- 39:17The problem was the knife,
- 39:19and I think when when we look at
- 39:20how we're going to fix some of
- 39:22the problems we want to get ahead
- 39:24of the time where somebody with
- 39:26schizophrenia is holding a knife.
- 39:27Of course, that's the best strategy,
- 39:29but we still are going to need responses
- 39:33for situations that might invoke
- 39:35more of a law enforcement response.
- 39:37And I'll talk a little bit about that.
- 39:39There was a paper that was written again by
- 39:41my colleague Doris Fuller called overlooked.
- 39:43In the undercounted,
- 39:44it's a really interesting and good paper
- 39:48talking about the disproportionate.
- 39:50Fatality death death by police for
- 39:54people with mental illness and so
- 39:55that was a really important paper.
- 39:57So of course we've talked about,
- 40:00you know it.
- 40:01You in the public,
- 40:02you know Black Lives Matter,
- 40:04but the intersectionality of mental
- 40:06illness and race and all of these
- 40:08other factors really becomes an
- 40:10important part of the conversation.
- 40:13At the same time,
- 40:15there are States and it's
- 40:17seeing it now in media reports.
- 40:19And I've personally seen it in a case.
- 40:21In Michigan,
- 40:22where the the effort to keep law
- 40:25enforcement away from behavioral health
- 40:28crisis may backfire in certain situations,
- 40:31and in some cases we've seen law enforcement
- 40:34refusing behavioral health calls.
- 40:36In fact,
- 40:37I testified in a federal court.
- 40:39In a conversation unrelated
- 40:41to law enforcement,
- 40:42but the judge was asking me
- 40:43questions about what are we gonna
- 40:45do about the fact in Washington
- 40:47that the police this was in the
- 40:49papers that the law enforcement
- 40:50were refusing behavioral health
- 40:53calls and so we have seen I've seen
- 40:57in other jurisdictions where the
- 40:59mental Health Center has called for
- 41:01help and the law enforcement because
- 41:03of fear of litigation and not not
- 41:05fully having clarity on their roles.
- 41:08At this point we're concerned about.
- 41:10Intervening and then you have
- 41:11the risk of people with mental
- 41:13illness being left to languish.
- 41:15So we really have to get
- 41:17to the right balance here.
- 41:19I worked on these issues with my colleague,
- 41:21Matthew Edwards,
- 41:22who's a historian and specializes in
- 41:25a lot of areas of racial justice.
- 41:27And we wrote this paper called Law
- 41:29Enforcement in crisis services.
- 41:31Past lessons for new partnerships and
- 41:33the future of 988 and what we talked
- 41:35about was the importance of law enforcement,
- 41:37emergency medical services,
- 41:39and behavioral health.
- 41:40Partnering and coordinating as we go
- 41:43forward and recognizing that there
- 41:45is a long and complex history of
- 41:48collaboration to help individuals get
- 41:50into treatment and keep communities safe
- 41:53and we need to learn from those past
- 41:55lessons about how to drive future models.
- 41:58And so he he Doctor Edwards is
- 42:00a specialist again in in history
- 42:02and one of his areas of focus.
- 42:05He's written extensively about the
- 42:07Freedom House ambulance service,
- 42:09and I've learned a lot from him.
- 42:10It's a fascinating account of the 1960s
- 42:14to 70s community based idea of it.
- 42:17There was a socio medical program that
- 42:20aspired to encourage black enterprise
- 42:22as a black run paramedic service.
- 42:25And frankly, it's set national standards in.
- 42:28EMS training and delivery for
- 42:30meeting the needs of people in
- 42:32their own communities by people
- 42:34of their own communities,
- 42:35and it supplanted what was otherwise
- 42:38happening with white police,
- 42:40firefighters and morticians.
- 42:41And again,
- 42:42it's set national standards in emergency
- 42:45medical services and became a model
- 42:47for many public health systems and
- 42:49it improves social and professional
- 42:51outcomes for paramedics while providing
- 42:53high quality service and care.
- 42:55It became highly visible through members
- 42:58of mark to members of marginalized
- 43:01populations in in positions of leadership,
- 43:04and so it was a real hallmark
- 43:05and a way to think about how to
- 43:08meet the needs of communities.
- 43:10Unfortunately,
- 43:10overtime there was a complex factors
- 43:15that sort of included looking
- 43:18at things kind of more uniformly
- 43:19and without an equity lens,
- 43:21which led to racial neutralizing
- 43:23standardization and then expansion
- 43:25of super ambulance services and
- 43:27monetization that led to its replacement,
- 43:30and therefore I think there are some
- 43:32really important lessons to learn about.
- 43:34How do we build proper modern
- 43:36standards but still pay attention
- 43:37to how to meet the needs of people?
- 43:40An out of hospital context and
- 43:43in that mobile crisis interface.
- 43:45And so we've been focusing a lot in
- 43:47some of the work we've been doing.
- 43:49Doctor Edwards, and I.
- 43:51I'm looking at these different
- 43:53populations that might have neat
- 43:54that will have different and unique
- 43:56needs for these systems to meet,
- 43:58including people of different race
- 44:01and ethnicities, immigrant needs,
- 44:02non English speakers,
- 44:04the LGBTQ plus community,
- 44:06children and adolescents, older adults,
- 44:09persons with intellectual and
- 44:10developmental disabilities,
- 44:11and even those with medical complexities
- 44:14or intersectionality of all of the above.
- 44:16And so it's a tall order to
- 44:19have crisis services meet.
- 44:20The needs of these diverse populations.
- 44:23But some of the things we can learn is,
- 44:25you know, thinking through prior police
- 44:28strategies that might have been overly
- 44:30zealous in preventive approaches,
- 44:32that in fact led to the over
- 44:35incarceration of black populations
- 44:36as well as underwhelming responses,
- 44:39leaving communities with high social
- 44:41determinants to struggle on their own.
- 44:43And again,
- 44:44looking at the intersectionality as we
- 44:46think about behavioral health responses.
- 44:47Of mental illness and race and the role
- 44:50of intergenerational trauma and cycles
- 44:52of violence and poverty and what that
- 44:54is going to mean when people come out to do.
- 44:56These mobile responses and so we have
- 44:58to build this into the mental health.
- 45:00Behavioral health crisis
- 45:02response of the future.
- 45:04So lots of work going on about out
- 45:06of hospital which is really the
- 45:08medical term used for when you go
- 45:10out and you do CPR in the street
- 45:12we're now seeing paramedics being
- 45:14able to induce buprenorphine for
- 45:16people with opioid use disorder.
- 45:18Out in the communities I'm giving,
- 45:21you know naloxone,
- 45:23but even inducing coupon orpheon
- 45:25could be an out of hospital approach
- 45:27where where people could get
- 45:29medicated and you could envision
- 45:31a future where somebody who,
- 45:32let's say is off their medication,
- 45:35is having a psychotic break where
- 45:37the hospital responders the medical.
- 45:40The crisis responders might be
- 45:41able to engage that individual in
- 45:43a dialogue and even engage them
- 45:45in initiation of treatments.
- 45:47And So what can we learn and that requires?
- 45:49Again, a lot of partnership,
- 45:51so people are really looking at
- 45:53blended and innovative models.
- 45:54More and more,
- 45:56including emergency medical services,
- 45:58mental health services as well as
- 46:00law enforcement so that the right
- 46:02responder comes at the right time.
- 46:04Now is law enforcement really necessary?
- 46:08I think there will always be situations
- 46:10that are high risk weapons suicide by COP,
- 46:13otherwise known as victim
- 46:15precipitated homicide.
- 46:16Law enforcement assisted
- 46:18suicide barricade situations.
- 46:19In hostage situations and I'm
- 46:21just going to tell you from my
- 46:23own very personal experience,
- 46:24this was a standoff not far from my
- 46:28own home and where I was called.
- 46:31I work a lot with our local sheriff
- 46:33and I was called to be a subject
- 46:36matter expert in vivo in this 36
- 46:38hour standoff where a young man
- 46:40with presumable mental illness and
- 46:42substance use disorder had held
- 46:44his parents hostage with firearms.
- 46:47Luckily the parents were able to leave.
- 46:49There was a SWAT team that had brought
- 46:51in community mental health case managers.
- 46:52On their team that we're working,
- 46:55and together they were able to
- 46:57gather information from the parents.
- 46:59Learn more about the this man's history,
- 47:01bring data to the table,
- 47:04calm the response if you ask me what my
- 47:06job was when we did the after action review,
- 47:09my job was to say,
- 47:10why do you have to act now?
- 47:12Let's wait it out and overtime,
- 47:1536 hours later I was not there for 36 hours.
- 47:18But over 36 hours they were able to
- 47:21successfully have this man self surrender.
- 47:24No one was injured.
- 47:25It was an unbelievable thing to witness,
- 47:28but I would say these are the kinds of
- 47:30situations where a mobile mental health
- 47:32crisis is not going to be sufficient.
- 47:34And so we have to bring these lessons
- 47:37forward and involve ourselves and
- 47:39think about how trauma informed
- 47:41practice is really building training.
- 47:45Really, building training of the
- 47:47workforce to think about these
- 47:49complex issues engage peers,
- 47:50and have partners at the ready and on call,
- 47:53such as law enforcement when it
- 47:55gets beyond what people can handle.
- 47:57Now, let me turn just quickly to the
- 47:59national Suicide Prevention Lifeline.
- 48:01'cause that's where 988 starts.
- 48:03And it started in 2001 and it eventually
- 48:06became titled the End and SPL in 2005.
- 48:10It has a central switchboard
- 48:13connecting callers and crisis centers.
- 48:16In 2013 they added crisis chat
- 48:19services and in 2021 crisis tech
- 48:21services and they have received many
- 48:24many calls since the inception.
- 48:27There's also something called
- 48:28the disaster distress.
- 48:29Help blind which really expanded
- 48:31in the wake of kovid.
- 48:33And so here's some data that just
- 48:36looks at calls from 2020 and you can
- 48:38see that NSPL has received over 1.8
- 48:41million calls around the country,
- 48:44so there's clearly a need and the
- 48:46thought is that because the number is
- 48:48hard to remember when 988 rolls out,
- 48:50we'll probably be seeing many,
- 48:52many more calls.
- 48:55The data from Madeline Gould,
- 48:57out of Columbia and her colleagues
- 49:00are really compelling to show that
- 49:02suicidal crisis callers were able to
- 49:05have significant reductions in intent to die,
- 49:07hopelessness and psychological pain
- 49:09during the context of the crisis.
- 49:11Call that the callers and in crisis
- 49:13collaborate with the call center
- 49:15on interventions.
- 49:16Most of the time,
- 49:17so it does not require kind of a
- 49:20forced intervention to save a life
- 49:21and that emergency services are
- 49:23deployed in about half of the calls.
- 49:25And most of them can be dealt
- 49:27with just by talking and users of
- 49:29crisis services that are that are
- 49:31using chat services are younger,
- 49:33showing us that we need to have different
- 49:36modalities for different populations.
- 49:38And now there's a lot of work going on.
- 49:39Looking at the 911988 interface,
- 49:42my colleagues at Pew Charitable Trust,
- 49:45Tracy Velazquez and others put out
- 49:47a press release and of a study that
- 49:51they had conducted of 233 call centers
- 49:53around the United States in 27 States
- 49:55and they identified few responding
- 49:57calls centers having staff with
- 49:59behavioral health crisis training,
- 50:01having limited options for
- 50:03specialized response,
- 50:04and need for mental health and substance
- 50:06use to sort of resources to get to people.
- 50:09And also in need for improved data to
- 50:11understand how many of the 911 calls
- 50:13are really behavioral health crisis.
- 50:17So that is a lot of information to cover.
- 50:19There is still much more work to be done.
- 50:22As I said, we're we're sort of
- 50:24building the bridge as we walk on it.
- 50:26Lots of complex questions,
- 50:27and so I would just summarize and say
- 50:30that crisis services are absolutely
- 50:32in a state of change and it is a key
- 50:36component of this of this idea that
- 50:38building state hospitals is not the
- 50:41direction that society will be moving in.
- 50:44There are too many reasons why
- 50:45that will not work anymore.
- 50:47And and should not work anymore.
- 50:49But we need to have a robust continuum
- 50:52of care and an array of services for
- 50:55people with mental health conditions,
- 50:57just like we do for people
- 50:59with medical conditions.
- 51:00And perhaps the beginning of
- 51:02that road is crisis services.
- 51:04I would argue that we'll be going
- 51:06back to intercept negative one,
- 51:07which is basic.
- 51:08Your basic mental health services
- 51:10and prevention strategies so we
- 51:12can avoid crisis in the 1st place.
- 51:14And and I'm not alone in thinking that,
- 51:16and so we're really building out this.
- 51:18Crisis service as a model,
- 51:20but it's expanding the scope of really
- 51:22trying to potentially rebuild the
- 51:24Community mental health system in the
- 51:26way that Kennedy had envisioned it,
- 51:29with a more robust and
- 51:31seamless infrastructure,
- 51:32that's going to require people
- 51:34like you at Yale and other places.
- 51:36Don't just let Columbia do the
- 51:38work to do research 'cause we
- 51:41don't know for what works really.
- 51:43We don't know whether these models of
- 51:46collaborative mobile crisis response.
- 51:48What works,
- 51:48we don't know what staffing
- 51:50patterns should look like.
- 51:51We don't know what there's not a lot of
- 51:53data on protocols for when a caller calls,
- 51:56and how does the how do the
- 51:58triage lines work.
- 51:59You know,
- 52:00we need researchers to invest in
- 52:02these crisis services so that the
- 52:05policymakers and practitioners can
- 52:07really start to build out a an
- 52:09array of services that are more
- 52:12based in evidence than anecdote.
- 52:15The current system is clearly overwhelmed
- 52:17with need and workforce challenges.
- 52:19I'm sure New Haven is is also
- 52:22experiencing similar Ed boarding
- 52:24and all of these other factors that
- 52:28play into the system challenges,
- 52:31so we really need to inspire a
- 52:33workforce and that's why in part
- 52:35I was particularly excited about
- 52:36being the Yochelson visiting scholar
- 52:38because inspiring a workforce has been
- 52:41part of my professional colleague,
- 52:42but we all need to do the work
- 52:44and I think the yochelson.
- 52:46Lectureship helps to inspire that
- 52:48workforce to stay in the game and to
- 52:51help keep being to meet the needs of
- 52:53people that were serving who hark
- 52:55seeing us in their most desperate times
- 52:57and so crisis services up tomorrow
- 53:00will likely look very different.
- 53:02Maybe not tomorrow,
- 53:03maybe not.
- 53:03In July of 2020,
- 53:05but envisioning what they could
- 53:07look like in five and 10 years
- 53:10is really an exciting opportunity
- 53:12for us and I would urge you all
- 53:14to stay abreast of the latest.
- 53:16And jump on the train and get involved.
- 53:19And with that I will stop and take questions.