Yale Psychiatry Grand Rounds: March 17, 2023
March 17, 2023"Bias in the Mirror"
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- 00:00To. To Connecticut and for
- 00:03the kind introduction,
- 00:05I'm going to go ahead and.
- 00:07Share my slides and get started.
- 00:09Can books give me a thumbs up that
- 00:11you can see the slides? Great.
- 00:14So throughout my presentation,
- 00:16there's a QR code embedded
- 00:19at various points throughout.
- 00:21If anybody's interested in some
- 00:23of the references or specifics,
- 00:25the QR code takes you directly to
- 00:27a web page that has some key and
- 00:30seminal articles that I referenced
- 00:33throughout my presentation.
- 00:35Just a basic series of disclosures,
- 00:38I would say.
- 00:39My disclosure today is that
- 00:41I am quite sleep deprived.
- 00:44I'm also excited and nervous about the
- 00:47match celebrations this afternoon.
- 00:52So I want to start with the poem.
- 00:53This is an excerpt from a poem
- 00:56by Warson Shire. Who writes?
- 00:59Later that night, I held an Atlas in my lap,
- 01:03ran my fingers across the
- 01:06whole world and whispered.
- 01:08Where does it hurt?
- 01:11It answered. Everywhere.
- 01:15Everywhere.
- 01:18Everybody.
- 01:22I share these words to acknowledge and
- 01:24honor the fact that all of us all succeed,
- 01:27of us that have come together
- 01:28in this virtual space today.
- 01:30Are joining with various kinds of hurt.
- 01:34Today is the first grand round since the
- 01:36passing of our friend and colleague Dr.
- 01:38Fortunati, and I think
- 01:39we have to acknowledge.
- 01:41The heaviness and the complexity
- 01:44of grief as a nonlinear process to
- 01:48acknowledge the match and all the
- 01:50things that it encompasses for people
- 01:52early in their career who put their
- 01:54faith in an algorithm hoping to match
- 01:57the right place that honors them.
- 02:00But I also want to honor that the past
- 02:02few years, for many have not been.
- 02:05A time without hurt.
- 02:07It's been a time of tremendous pain
- 02:09and and challenge and difficulty.
- 02:12People rising up, speaking up.
- 02:14But also people hurting.
- 02:16So wherever you're at and however
- 02:18you're feeling,
- 02:19I encourage you to enter this space today,
- 02:22honoring your complex emotions
- 02:24and your humanness.
- 02:29So we want to start off by telling
- 02:32you a little bit about my story.
- 02:34I am the child of immigrants from
- 02:37Pakistan to Canada in the 1960s and 70s.
- 02:40I'm the child of the City of Toronto,
- 02:42where I grew up in a. Well,
- 02:44we would call it very multicultural milieu.
- 02:48And I'm the child who, in my early 20s,
- 02:51experienced the 9/11 attacks in a way
- 02:54that was a watershed moment for my
- 02:57identity as someone who's racialized.
- 03:01With the Muslim faith background.
- 03:03I would argue that 9/11 was a moment
- 03:06where many like me lost our whiteness.
- 03:09We instantly had to contend with
- 03:12the experience of being someone
- 03:14who was afraid of being harmed
- 03:16by political violence, but also.
- 03:19Afraid that someone sitting next
- 03:21to us might think that we are
- 03:24perpetrators of such violence.
- 03:26And for me,
- 03:27as a child of immigrants who watched
- 03:29my parents experience a lack of
- 03:32advancement in their careers,
- 03:34related directly to various forms of
- 03:37structural racism and colonial trauma.
- 03:40And someone who watched them
- 03:42internalize that.
- 03:43That moment in my 20s was
- 03:45a very important moment.
- 03:46And what I did back then was I went
- 03:49out into the world and became very
- 03:51interested in equity and issues globally.
- 03:55Eventually imagining myself
- 03:56is pursuing a perhaps an MPH,
- 03:59but taking the MCAT and having a
- 04:02a flyer fall into the mail about
- 04:05a new school in global health
- 04:07at Bangor University in Israel.
- 04:10I could give a whole talk about
- 04:11that experience,
- 04:12but that's where I trained and
- 04:13through twists and turns ended
- 04:15up in Rochester at a time in the
- 04:17the history and story of America.
- 04:19That was a time of hope.
- 04:21And then recruited back to Canada,
- 04:23which was a health system that
- 04:25I had idealized and held up on
- 04:28a pedestal for much of my life.
- 04:30So I found myself an early career
- 04:32psychiatrist with deep interests
- 04:34in medical education and at times
- 04:36disparate interests in global health,
- 04:39cross cultural medicine and HealthEquity.
- 04:42Having spent time with different
- 04:44forms of organized medicine,
- 04:46but then finding myself in practice
- 04:48working as a child psychiatrist in a
- 04:51busy academic Health Science center.
- 04:54And this headline is from March 2014,
- 04:57almost 10 years ago.
- 04:59Because what I came face to face with
- 05:02was a system where one of the biggest
- 05:04equity issues was hitting me in the face.
- 05:07That was the inequitable way
- 05:08in which we treat people,
- 05:09particularly in general and acute
- 05:12settings whose struggle with mental
- 05:16illness or addiction I've watched,
- 05:19you know,
- 05:19in my early career system where
- 05:21someone was 18 and built up
- 05:23the courage to ask for help,
- 05:25they could be waiting on a stretcher
- 05:28in a hallway for weeks before
- 05:31our bed would become available.
- 05:34But most importantly,
- 05:35I watched how many times these patients,
- 05:38these young people I served,
- 05:40were consistently dehumanized,
- 05:42blamed and shamed by those
- 05:45who work in the system.
- 05:49And I realized that the people who
- 05:52were doing this were people like me.
- 05:55In watching them, in many ways,
- 05:58I was looking in a mirror at myself.
- 06:01Someone who is becoming desensitized
- 06:03to the pressures of practice.
- 06:05And compartmentalizing more and more.
- 06:08So I did what I did.
- 06:09For moments of my life,
- 06:10I leaned into it. At the time,
- 06:13we began looking at these processes of
- 06:16bias against people with mental illness.
- 06:19We looked at the social process of
- 06:21different forms of stigma in these settings,
- 06:24and what was clear to us what was
- 06:26happening when we studied it was
- 06:28when someone walks in the door and
- 06:30implicitly will gets attached to them.
- 06:32That label though.
- 06:35Could be that they're dangerous
- 06:37and unpredictable.
- 06:38It could be that they are.
- 06:43Time consuming and a system that
- 06:46prioritizes time and efficiency.
- 06:48But what was most interesting was that
- 06:50they were labeled as being unfixable in
- 06:52a system that prioritized quick fixes.
- 06:55And because well, meaning health
- 06:57professionals like to feel useful.
- 06:59That label would lead to an
- 07:01avoidance behavior.
- 07:02People wouldn't go in the room.
- 07:03There was a discomfort.
- 07:05But of course,
- 07:06in the same research,
- 07:07we looked at how patients and
- 07:09caregivers perceived this labeling,
- 07:10and they shared that that avoidance
- 07:13feels like judgment and discrimination.
- 07:16But at the end of the day,
- 07:17everyone,
- 07:17including patients and those
- 07:19working in the system,
- 07:21felt a sense of powerlessness
- 07:24and helplessness.
- 07:25And this cycle just kept turning and turning.
- 07:31Part of what became clear to
- 07:33me in the early days of these
- 07:36different lines of inquiry.
- 07:38Was it the ways in which we talk
- 07:40about things like discrimination and
- 07:42prejudice and the current paradigms
- 07:44for teaching and training were built
- 07:47on an entirely flawed assumption,
- 07:49that being that,
- 07:50you know,
- 07:50the problem resided in another
- 07:53group that's not us,
- 07:54not the 79 of us that are here today,
- 07:57that the bad people,
- 07:59the people who might be discriminated.
- 08:02And that perhaps we intervene by putting
- 08:04all of those people in a workshop
- 08:07or forcing them to take a module.
- 08:11Without appreciating or holding up the
- 08:13mirror to ourselves and our systems.
- 08:16The problem with the that existing
- 08:18way of approaching teaching and
- 08:20learning about these topics is what
- 08:22we're seeing in many cases today.
- 08:25Burning so much energy and
- 08:29worsening polarization.
- 08:31So my work started with that simple idea.
- 08:33What happens if,
- 08:34instead of burning that energy,
- 08:36we hold up the mirror to
- 08:39ourselves and our systems?
- 08:41How can we reconcile the knowledge
- 08:43that we are part of this harm,
- 08:46but we can also be part of healing?
- 08:56So in one of our earliest studies,
- 08:57we did that. We held up the mirror to
- 09:00health professionals and looked at how they
- 09:03processed and integrated feedback about
- 09:06the fact that they indeed were biased.
- 09:08And why this study was a very
- 09:11important study, not just for me
- 09:14professionally but personally,
- 09:15is because until this study I had always
- 09:18really anchored myself to this idea
- 09:20that it was about humanizing each other.
- 09:23That if we could begin to connect to
- 09:26one another at a human level and see
- 09:28the things that we have in common,
- 09:31that perhaps these bridges can be built.
- 09:35But what we found when we held up the mirror
- 09:37is that instantly health professionals said,
- 09:39well, no, that's not even possible,
- 09:42that you can give me feedback that
- 09:44I'm biased because professionals,
- 09:46which we can't have bias,
- 09:47we're professionals.
- 09:49But at the same time,
- 09:50they said both.
- 09:51Of course we had bias because
- 09:53we're human beings too.
- 09:55And why this finding struck me so deeply?
- 09:58Was that it highlighted
- 10:01that compartmentalization,
- 10:02which at times could have been an
- 10:05adaptive defense mechanism in many
- 10:08ways has become quite maladaptive.
- 10:11If you know we believe that humanizing
- 10:13one another is part of the way,
- 10:15we move forward to heal.
- 10:18This research helped me appreciate that
- 10:21there's something about our culture,
- 10:23particularly in medical and health education.
- 10:28That actually encourages us.
- 10:31To dehumanize ourselves.
- 10:34And compartmentalize our independence
- 10:36that perhaps there's something much
- 10:39deeper that we have to contend with
- 10:41before we can do anything else.
- 10:45So as we began to engage deeper
- 10:47and did further research,
- 10:49we held up the mirror to people like
- 10:52us who actually work in mental health.
- 10:55And we held up the mirror about our
- 10:57biases about people with mental illness
- 10:59because we wanted to understand when
- 11:01someone really prides themselves on
- 11:02being of service to a certain group or a
- 11:06certain identity or certain population.
- 11:08And they have to come to terms with the
- 11:10fact that they may not be so special.
- 11:12How do they work through that?
- 11:16So through this series of studies we did,
- 11:18we found something very fascinating and it
- 11:20was a paradox in the feedback literature.
- 11:22Now there's a a broad literature
- 11:24on feedback in medical education.
- 11:26And what it highlights is that
- 11:28we're not supposed to give people
- 11:30feedback about themselves or anything
- 11:32that relates to who they might be.
- 11:34We are encouraged to give
- 11:35people feedback on what they do.
- 11:37And the reason for that is
- 11:39because there's a long standing
- 11:40research which highlights that.
- 11:42Any feedback?
- 11:43About someone that relates to what they
- 11:46think about themselves or the self.
- 11:49Actually hijacks the feedback process.
- 11:51It's so difficult to reconcile that it
- 11:54leads people to question the credibility
- 11:57of any such feedback and not perceive
- 12:00feedback about the self as action.
- 12:03But what we found in our work
- 12:05was that actually feedback about
- 12:07bias was a form of feedback that
- 12:09people question the credibility.
- 12:11They tore it to pieces.
- 12:13Yet for some reason it was
- 12:16still perceived as actionable,
- 12:17and that's something that's very
- 12:19important for us to consider.
- 12:23Overall,
- 12:23much of that early work highlighted
- 12:26that how we talk about these
- 12:29issues that have proliferated and
- 12:32become buzzwords in healthcare
- 12:35and education today matters.
- 12:37If we continue to treat learners in
- 12:40a manner that pushes them towards an
- 12:43impossible version of themselves.
- 12:45Maybe there's going to be unintended
- 12:48consequences if we continue to load
- 12:50more and more and more different
- 12:52things like modules or exercises,
- 12:55without consideration of the
- 12:57cognitive and emotional load that
- 12:59this plays on individuals,
- 13:01ultimately our efforts may not be successful.
- 13:07The other thing that we learned related
- 13:10to how individual education and social
- 13:13processes of discrimination and prejudice
- 13:16relate to systems and structures.
- 13:19In this study, we followed individuals
- 13:22longitudinally within a specific clinical
- 13:25learning environment after raising
- 13:27critical awareness about their biases.
- 13:30So in this context,
- 13:32which was an emergency department,
- 13:34where we know that there's a quick fixed
- 13:36culture and an implicit assumption that
- 13:38people with mental illness are unfixable
- 13:41with an implicit avoidance behavior
- 13:43and helplessness and frustration.
- 13:45Just making people aware of their biases.
- 13:51Actually, might not be the greatest thing.
- 13:54And that's because increasing recognition
- 13:56or awareness of such biases actually
- 14:00creates a significant amount of dissonance.
- 14:03And helplessness.
- 14:05That contributes back to the helplessness and
- 14:09frustration that underpins this whole cycle.
- 14:12If all we say to people is yes,
- 14:13there may be ways in which you enact harm.
- 14:16And that might be unconscious,
- 14:18and that might be something
- 14:19you might not be aware of,
- 14:21or you might be trying to address
- 14:23and it might not be enough.
- 14:25That simply makes people likely
- 14:28to check out and say, well, what?
- 14:31What's the point then,
- 14:32if there's nothing I can do about this?
- 14:35However.
- 14:36If you couple that with active skill
- 14:41building and behavioral strategy,
- 14:43something different happening.
- 14:44So many of these participants and you
- 14:46know this is all great and we recognize
- 14:48that there's a moral imperative to do better.
- 14:51But you know we're metrics and there's
- 14:53all these structural region reasons
- 14:55why this won't be sustainable.
- 14:56Yet when we encouraged specific
- 14:59behavior change and in this case
- 15:02it was encouraging engagement and
- 15:04empathic engagement and being.
- 15:06Prior, prior,
- 15:07pre aware of that tendency to avoid.
- 15:11That engagement led to critical
- 15:13reflection about these assumptions
- 15:15and really push and foster the idea
- 15:18that mental illness was a shared
- 15:20responsibility across all systems.
- 15:22But what we saw longitudinally,
- 15:24that was really fascinating,
- 15:25was that if people began to
- 15:28share an explicitly role model,
- 15:30a different kind of behavior.
- 15:33They begin questioning structural
- 15:35factors in the system itself.
- 15:38And in this particular study,
- 15:40they actually began questioning things
- 15:42like the triage policy and the tools
- 15:45and the scales that were being used,
- 15:47and began to argue and advocate
- 15:49that those be changed because the
- 15:51system and the structures themselves
- 15:53were actually stigmatizing,
- 15:55and that those structural determinants
- 15:57reinforced stigmatization of
- 15:58the individual level.
- 16:02The model that came out of our
- 16:04research really highlighted that
- 16:05none of this work is a checkbox or,
- 16:07you know, a module. Like I say,
- 16:09it has to start with the acknowledgement
- 16:12that we can strive to do it as
- 16:14best as we can, but at the outset,
- 16:17acknowledge and embrace the fact that
- 16:19we will stumble more than we strive.
- 16:22And that we just have to keep working on it.
- 16:25And pick ourselves up and keep going.
- 16:28But it also recognizes this is an arduous
- 16:30cycle that includes holding up the
- 16:33mirror and includes critical reflection.
- 16:35But it actually includes changing what we do.
- 16:38Doing things differently.
- 16:41Yet at the heart of it was that
- 16:44this work resonated and stuck in
- 16:47certain settings and not in others.
- 16:49The secret sauce was how we
- 16:52looked at our teams.
- 16:54If teaching and learning happened
- 16:56with people across disciplines,
- 16:58with people who work together,
- 16:59learning together.
- 17:00And if that team opened up,
- 17:03their ability to be open and vulnerable
- 17:06about wanting to be better than
- 17:08members of the team actually became
- 17:11social reinforcers for change.
- 17:16So that's how I kind of started tiptoeing
- 17:19into these topics academically. But I
- 17:22wanna also tell you why I'm really here.
- 17:26I want to bring in now Doctor Javeed Sukhera.
- 17:29He is the Chair of London
- 17:31Police Services Board,
- 17:32and we've reached him in London.
- 17:34Doctor Sequeira, thank you
- 17:34so much for joining us, Sir.
- 17:37Thank you so much for having me.
- 17:38Let me begin by saying, of course,
- 17:40that we are all so deeply sorry
- 17:42for what your community is going
- 17:44through and how you've been forced
- 17:46to to deal with this tragedy.
- 17:48I wonder, with the people that you're
- 17:50speaking with and and in your role,
- 17:52what is the conversation like right now?
- 17:56It's tough, it's unfathomable.
- 17:58I think, for for me personally,
- 18:00our our family had a personal
- 18:02connection to the deceased,
- 18:03which takes this to a whole other level,
- 18:05the kinds of conversations I have
- 18:07to have with my young children.
- 18:09But also the conversations
- 18:10we're having as a community.
- 18:11I think there's an outpouring of
- 18:13love and support and solidarity,
- 18:15which is great,
- 18:16but I wish to remind my friends and
- 18:19neighbors to not look away from the hate
- 18:22that contributed to this incident. I.
- 18:27On the evening of June 6th,
- 18:302021 it was a warm summer day
- 18:32where I used to live in London ON.
- 18:34And family, friends of ours,
- 18:36one of the first families
- 18:37we met when we moved there.
- 18:39Family with a young son that was
- 18:41similar to my son and a daughter that
- 18:44was similar to my daughter in age.
- 18:46Kids who played together.
- 18:47Went out for a walk.
- 18:51And that. Individual in a black
- 18:54pickup truck who was driving
- 18:57through the streets of the city.
- 18:59And explicitly espoused a white
- 19:03supremacist agenda is looking for
- 19:05people who look like us to kill.
- 19:08He ran over our family friends,
- 19:11killing four of five of them,
- 19:13three generations.
- 19:14And horrific hate crime that
- 19:16took place not too far from my.
- 19:21Waking up the next day due to
- 19:23the role that I had at the time.
- 19:25Working and civilian
- 19:26oversight of police services.
- 19:29Knowing that something horrible
- 19:30and tragic had happened.
- 19:32Feeling my own gut react in
- 19:35ways I had never experienced,
- 19:38but then learning from my
- 19:40daughter who was 13 at the time.
- 19:43That one of the people who
- 19:44were killed was her friend.
- 19:48I want to bring I'm not here
- 19:51simply because this is an academic
- 19:55exercise or a topic that relates.
- 19:59To scholarly publications or grants.
- 20:02I am here because this is a topic
- 20:05that is deeply personal to me.
- 20:09And many. In our communities.
- 20:13And I think we have to contend
- 20:15with that fact if we are to
- 20:17talk about it with anybody else.
- 20:21So why are we here?
- 20:22Why are we? As a department,
- 20:26as a community talking about this right now.
- 20:30This moment in history,
- 20:31when we know that the heat of these
- 20:35fires has been burning for centuries,
- 20:37why are we here now?
- 20:39Why does it matter?
- 20:42I would argue that we are here
- 20:46because we have to awaken.
- 20:48From the illusion.
- 20:51Of our separateness.
- 20:55The fires that are burning,
- 20:57that are being fanned and flamed
- 20:59in this country and many others,
- 21:01they're reaching our front doors.
- 21:04Many of us have already been burned.
- 21:07But if we think that we are different
- 21:10or special or unique or that we
- 21:13somehow have figured this out.
- 21:14We really.
- 21:16Need to critically reflect
- 21:19on those assumptions.
- 21:20For many in racialized communities.
- 21:24There's a different form of trauma when
- 21:27you know that your humanity doesn't matter.
- 21:30And then you watch people you
- 21:33know awaken to your humanity
- 21:35when they see people like you.
- 21:38Being murdered.
- 21:43And if we think about how we've
- 21:46talked or addressed topics such as
- 21:50these within our hallowed halls,
- 21:52our systems, and our settings,
- 21:54including the place I now work.
- 21:57We have to recognize that there
- 21:59are many individuals who have
- 22:01experienced consistent gaslighting,
- 22:03meaning being told that their experiences
- 22:07of discrimination aren't real or true.
- 22:09And what I would call consistent
- 22:12toxic positivity being demonized
- 22:14and denigrated for simply breaking
- 22:17up the topic of things like racism.
- 22:21And watching while the racism
- 22:23itself continues to go unchecked.
- 22:28As these words and topics become buzzwords.
- 22:32It's essential for us at this
- 22:35moment to recognize the difference.
- 22:38Between fostering diversity
- 22:41or fostering inclusion.
- 22:44And the ideas related to
- 22:47liberation and justice.
- 22:49The ability for members of our communities
- 22:52to come into clinical learning and
- 22:55working environments in their full self.
- 22:59Without having to consistently code switch,
- 23:02we're self censored.
- 23:04And feel embraced,
- 23:05just as they would if they were
- 23:07part of the social cultural norm.
- 23:12There are two studies that we
- 23:14participated in that I want to draw
- 23:16your attention to that highlight some
- 23:18of these tensions and challenges.
- 23:20The first I was senior author on and
- 23:23we did a critical discourse analysis
- 23:25of statements that were put out after
- 23:28the merger murder of George Floyd from
- 23:31academic medical units organizations,
- 23:33including medical schools,
- 23:35hospitals and different organizations
- 23:37in the US and Canada.
- 23:40Not surprisingly,
- 23:42our analysis showed that most of
- 23:47such statements included pictures
- 23:49of smiling Deans.
- 23:51And a consistent kind of self
- 23:54congratulatory rhetoric about how
- 23:55great that department or unit
- 23:58or hospital was at these issues.
- 24:00Many read like laundry lists
- 24:03of accomplishments.
- 24:05But what was fascinating was.
- 24:08That historically black colleges
- 24:10did not read like that.
- 24:13And in healthcare,
- 24:14the statements pointed to racism
- 24:17and policing is a problem,
- 24:19with very few actually holding
- 24:21up the mirror acknowledging that
- 24:24people die in our hospitals every
- 24:26day because of racism.
- 24:29The other study on the right was one
- 24:32where we did a critical discourse
- 24:34analysis of discrimination and
- 24:36harassment policies in medical
- 24:38schools across Canada.
- 24:40The implications of this work are
- 24:42really helping reshape the way higher
- 24:44education is approaching these issues,
- 24:46because what we learned was that
- 24:49existing policy based approaches
- 24:51to addressing these issues
- 24:53largely center the self protection
- 24:55of organizations themselves.
- 24:57And the language includes largely
- 25:01self protective discourse with
- 25:03some discursive tensions.
- 25:06For example,
- 25:07policies described how everyone
- 25:09has a shared responsibility to be
- 25:12free from discrimination without
- 25:14really specifically holding people
- 25:17with structural leadership roles
- 25:19in such organizations accountable.
- 25:21This course also puts an onus of
- 25:25responsibility and credibility
- 25:26on people who complained.
- 25:28Putting undue burden on individuals who,
- 25:31not surprisingly,
- 25:32tend not to report such instances
- 25:34because they haven't found trust
- 25:36in systems to support and react.
- 25:41So if we think about the context
- 25:42in which we do this work,
- 25:44we have to recognize the cultural
- 25:47norms of medical education
- 25:50and training really are.
- 25:52A system where professionalism means
- 25:55subservience within a hierarchy.
- 25:57And the perfectionism I spoke of earlier,
- 26:00the dehumanization and subservience,
- 26:02essentially contributes
- 26:03to a culture of silence.
- 26:10So I'm not here to just talk about
- 26:12where we've been, where we are.
- 26:14I'd also like to share a few insights about
- 26:17where we can potentially go from here.
- 26:22We want to break the silence.
- 26:24We have to speak up,
- 26:25but advocacy conducted within our settings
- 26:30is generally perceived as disruptive.
- 26:33In this study by my colleague Dr.
- 26:35Ladonna and others,
- 26:36they looked at how patient
- 26:39advocates view health advocacy
- 26:41compared to physician advocates.
- 26:44And what was fascinating in this
- 26:45work is that for patient advocates,
- 26:48advocacy was seen as essential.
- 26:50It was about their lives.
- 26:53Whereas physician advocates viewed
- 26:55advocacy as inherently disruptive.
- 26:58And they were acutely aware that
- 27:00by speaking up or advocating,
- 27:02they were going against a
- 27:04culture and taking a risk,
- 27:06which is why many do it
- 27:08largely in the shadows.
- 27:12I should say a trigger and content warning,
- 27:14but I want to share for you some of.
- 27:17What was disruptive about my
- 27:20speaking up vocally about anti
- 27:22Muslim prejudice both before and
- 27:25after the tragedy that I described,
- 27:28giving everyone example of the large
- 27:30amounts of hate that get directed
- 27:33towards individuals who speak up?
- 27:35And this is nothing compared
- 27:37to what women experience,
- 27:38particularly racialized women who
- 27:42encounter largely disproportionate amounts
- 27:45of hateful backlash for speaking up.
- 27:48For contributing feedback.
- 27:53So if we think about where we go from here.
- 27:58I think we can anchor ourselves
- 28:01into the richness of some of the
- 28:04work we do and some of the diverse
- 28:06ways in which we see the world.
- 28:09Much of what we do in psychiatry
- 28:12has often been focused on coping.
- 28:14But we also know about healing.
- 28:17We know that if things are to transform,
- 28:21there has to be a dialectic
- 28:24where we hold disruption.
- 28:26And dialogue in each hand as we move forward.
- 28:32And I recognize that this is a private
- 28:34approach that that resonates with me.
- 28:36And I recognize it does so because
- 28:38I've always been an insider in a system
- 28:41in many ways as a positive, deviant,
- 28:44pushing and advocating for change while
- 28:47working with and alongside communities,
- 28:51particularly activist communities
- 28:54outside of powerful organizations.
- 28:57Ultimately,
- 28:58change at a neurobiological level
- 29:02has to be informed by science.
- 29:06And I would argue as a as
- 29:09an education scientist,
- 29:10it has to be informed by social
- 29:13and behavioral sciences.
- 29:15If all we do is fall back
- 29:18into a coercive cycle.
- 29:20We're power becomes intoxicating,
- 29:22and we seek only to surround ourselves.
- 29:26With similar thinking or similar
- 29:30approaches and don't seek to Co
- 29:33create or Co construct solutions,
- 29:35I would argue that we aren't
- 29:37simply going to move forward.
- 29:40But if there's anything that my work
- 29:42does far has taught me above all else,
- 29:45it is about the importance
- 29:47of self compassion.
- 29:48All of us live and work in cultures
- 29:51where sleep deprivation is often
- 29:52held up as a metal where we can
- 29:55tend to fall into cycles of self
- 29:58cleaning and self guilt so easily.
- 30:01So if we want to change systems,
- 30:03we really have to learn about
- 30:05our own boundaries.
- 30:06Learn about the importance and
- 30:09the revolutionary power of rest.
- 30:11But it requires consistently
- 30:14practicing self compassion,
- 30:16self forgiveness,
- 30:17and self validation as an
- 30:20essential ingredient of this work.
- 30:25Two areas that we're working on
- 30:26here that I want to share with you
- 30:29include feedback and role modeling.
- 30:31As I shared earlier,
- 30:32looking and understanding how we have
- 30:35feedback conversations is a big part of
- 30:37of the model that we initially explored.
- 30:40More recently, we've been conducting
- 30:43a study funded through the Royal
- 30:45College of Physicians in Canada,
- 30:46which is like the ACG ME here.
- 30:49Where we've been looking at how we
- 30:52have feedback conversations that are
- 30:54emotionally charged about equity.
- 30:55Discrimination and prejudice in
- 30:58different professional cultures.
- 31:00And we're exploring it in teaching,
- 31:02education, pre service teachers,
- 31:05nursing education and medical education.
- 31:09What's been very fascinating about this
- 31:11work is that there may be similarities
- 31:14about teaching and learning or such
- 31:17conversations at a surface level.
- 31:19But as we dig deeper into the deeper and
- 31:22more implicit aspects of this pedagogy,
- 31:25there's clear differences.
- 31:28Conversations that are emotionally
- 31:30charged about equity.
- 31:32In health,
- 31:33professions largely exist with
- 31:35an emphasis on boundaries.
- 31:37And a desire to keep things under control.
- 31:41And it's taught by imparting
- 31:43knowledge and skills while seeking
- 31:45objectivity and neutrality,
- 31:47with the idea that expertise
- 31:49in equity is challenging.
- 31:51Whereas in teacher education,
- 31:53there's general appreciation of
- 31:56creating and Co creating space,
- 31:58creating knowledge it's enacted or taught
- 32:01by shifting or influencing interpretation,
- 32:04and there's consistent questioning
- 32:07of the myth of neutrality.
- 32:10It's interesting that teachers always
- 32:13believe that experience or live
- 32:16experience are part of expertise.
- 32:18Nursing educators say,
- 32:19well,
- 32:19we we need to bring equity experts
- 32:21because we don't have equity experts.
- 32:23So let's bring external people who
- 32:26are experts in equity to teach.
- 32:28And Medicine reckons with the
- 32:30fact that we're so used to being
- 32:33experts at everything we do.
- 32:35That we don't even know where to start
- 32:36if there's something we're not an expert.
- 32:40One of the most fascinating findings of
- 32:42this work is about the role of emotions.
- 32:45We're finding that in nursing,
- 32:47emotions tend to be avoided or neutralized.
- 32:52In medicine, motions on the surface
- 32:54are validated and normalized,
- 32:56but still perceived as something
- 32:58that's an obstacle to learning.
- 33:00Whereas in teacher education,
- 33:01emotions are an intrinsic
- 33:02part of teaching and learning.
- 33:06The other area that we're
- 33:08continuing to do some work is
- 33:10around the idea of role modeling.
- 33:12And on that note, what I want to share
- 33:14with you a little bit of what it's been
- 33:16like for me in the past 18 months,
- 33:17taking on this very fascinating,
- 33:19interesting role that I never imagined
- 33:21I would ever do in my career,
- 33:23I was working 50% protected as
- 33:26a scientist and scholar activist
- 33:29and 50% clinically in a pediatric
- 33:31chronic pain program when by accident
- 33:34someone forwarded my information
- 33:35to the folks here in Hartford.
- 33:38And it took me a long time to be
- 33:41convinced to uproot my family.
- 33:43But as you can see with these images,
- 33:45there's something a little bit
- 33:47different about me compared to
- 33:49some of my predecessors.
- 33:51And I think that's something that I
- 33:53speak of very openly with my teams
- 33:55and those that work in the organization,
- 33:58which is an acknowledgment that
- 34:00this beautiful office and and shelf
- 34:02ladder behind me.
- 34:03Is a space that someone that looks like
- 34:06me simply would not have been welcome.
- 34:08Not that long ago.
- 34:10So in this context,
- 34:12when I've been afforded as the
- 34:15opportunity to take some of this work
- 34:18and research I've done and really
- 34:20translate it towards implementation.
- 34:22Much of our work really highlights
- 34:25that moving forward requires.
- 34:27A few key ingredients.
- 34:30One is enhancing agency's choice and
- 34:33the ability of people to be informed
- 34:35and make decisions without feeling coerced.
- 34:38But the other is role modeling vulnerability.
- 34:42And really making sure that there's
- 34:44space to talk about teaching,
- 34:47learning,
- 34:47and humility without getting in trouble.
- 34:51And the third is Co designing interventions
- 34:54and evaluation with everything you do.
- 34:59We translated some of this work,
- 35:01I can't get into detail,
- 35:02but into a framework that we called
- 35:05shared humanity that's available
- 35:07online@sharedhumanity.ca which
- 35:08actually works through some of
- 35:11these areas looking at trust,
- 35:13power and humanity and
- 35:15clinical learning environments.
- 35:16And it's work that is evolving
- 35:18in a good resource,
- 35:20for example for medical and other
- 35:22health professions learners.
- 35:25One of the examples of what
- 35:27we've been doing here has been on
- 35:29the topic of microaggressions,
- 35:30which I know is an area that the
- 35:32Yale Department has prioritized,
- 35:33and I've had a chance to go through
- 35:35some of the incredible work,
- 35:36including the modules that have
- 35:38been developed in this area.
- 35:40What I would argue,
- 35:41and what we're trying to do with the AOL is,
- 35:43is to recognize that that is extremely
- 35:46important, that we're educated,
- 35:47that we understand what this
- 35:49is and what to do,
- 35:50so that we don't remain silent.
- 35:53But we also need to think about prevention.
- 35:57So based on some research,
- 35:59by now a PhD student doctor,
- 36:02Justin Bullock,
- 36:02who had the honor of being
- 36:04one of his supervisors,
- 36:06we're implementing something
- 36:07called the pre brief conversation.
- 36:10The pre brief is a preventative
- 36:13conversation in clinical working and
- 36:15learning environments where members of
- 36:18a team are encouraged to acknowledge
- 36:21that microaggressions do happen.
- 36:23And that.
- 36:24We strive to be aware and sensitized by them,
- 36:28but what the previous provides is
- 36:30for a teacher and learner at varying
- 36:33degrees of power in that dynamic
- 36:35to acknowledge our humanness and
- 36:37how we may be affected by such
- 36:39microaggressions and how we would
- 36:41want team members to respond.
- 36:43A microaggression pre brief can
- 36:45be as simple as you know.
- 36:47We know that this happens and this is
- 36:49a topic that makes me very uncomfortable,
- 36:52but I will strive to send to you.
- 36:54If there's anything that happens,
- 36:56and I want to acknowledge that this
- 36:58is the kind of space where we have
- 37:00to be open and honest about it.
- 37:01Two, you know, explicitly someone saying no,
- 37:05I'm a faculty or I'm this,
- 37:06and these are things that part
- 37:08of my personal identity.
- 37:09And so if there are any microaggressions
- 37:12that didn't denigrate me,
- 37:13would humanize me.
- 37:14Related to this,
- 37:15I'd like my my ask of you as a team
- 37:17member is to simply not look away and
- 37:20acknowledge it and let me take the lead.
- 37:23What we've been doing is
- 37:25researching the implementation of
- 37:26these individual conversations,
- 37:28really understanding about how
- 37:30do we respond to microaggressions
- 37:33in a preventative way.
- 37:35And what we've found from this work
- 37:37we're writing it up right now is it
- 37:39is so dissonant and discordant for
- 37:42so many people in a department of
- 37:45psychiatry with 132 bed facility.
- 37:47To be encouraged to talk about
- 37:51what makes them who they are.
- 37:53It's so not normal.
- 37:55That even the process of implementing
- 37:58these types of conversations
- 38:00has to contend with how big of a
- 38:04culture shift it is from some of
- 38:06the norms that exist.
- 38:10The other area that we're doing
- 38:11a lot of work in trying to build
- 38:14further capacity is connecting and
- 38:16understanding the ways in which racial
- 38:19trauma or minority stress accumulate,
- 38:21leading towards heightened arousal
- 38:23systems and adversely impacting
- 38:26well-being and functioning.
- 38:29Overall at the Iowa,
- 38:30our vision and plan is to acknowledge that,
- 38:34you know, we're a 200 year old place
- 38:37that has been founded on the simple
- 38:40idea of centering the humanity and
- 38:43dignity of people who are suffering.
- 38:46But at this cross section in history,
- 38:48we are recognizing that in
- 38:49many ways we have gone astray.
- 38:52That we have normalized various
- 38:54forms of coercive practices.
- 38:56And what we do?
- 38:58And that our system is largely
- 39:01a coping focused system.
- 39:03So our plan and vision.
- 39:06Is to move from this idea of moral treatment
- 39:10to what we're calling radical recovery.
- 39:13We're in the final stages of sketching
- 39:15out our road map for change,
- 39:16so I wanted to give you a sneak peek.
- 39:20We've got 12 strategic goals.
- 39:22And as you can see,
- 39:24the center one really is under the
- 39:27theme of liberation of this came
- 39:29from extensive internal and external
- 39:32engagement within our community.
- 39:33And actually the theme as it came through
- 39:36and got went through analysis was coercion.
- 39:39The topic was coercion,
- 39:40but not going to make a theme
- 39:42that's coercion.
- 39:43So when I looked at different words
- 39:45that would capture the essence of the
- 39:47liberation was the one that came to mind,
- 39:49but it's also.
- 39:50Sorry, that made people very,
- 39:52very uncomfortable.
- 39:55Part of what we are seeking to do is to
- 39:57ground all of our work in code design,
- 40:00empowering the patients,
- 40:01families and communities as partners.
- 40:03We're beginning to do this
- 40:05through a participatory,
- 40:06inclusive approach to policy design,
- 40:09everything from visitor
- 40:11policy to passes and food.
- 40:14We're also partnering with the
- 40:16World Health Organization's Quality
- 40:18Rights Initiative to develop a
- 40:21scorecard around corset practices
- 40:23that we will publicly monitor
- 40:25and report with a framework that
- 40:27we hope others will follow.
- 40:29And going beyond the buzzwords
- 40:31in terms of well-being and DE I,
- 40:33really to continue to be a place
- 40:36that builds and fosters personal
- 40:38and professional development.
- 40:41And digs deep to think about how.
- 40:45We want to be while translating some of
- 40:49these aspirations into walking for long.
- 40:54So that's that's what I was hoping to share.
- 40:57I shared why I'm here,
- 40:58why we're here as a collective.
- 41:01And I hope that as we
- 41:02have a chance to to chat,
- 41:04discuss and and be in Community with
- 41:06one another that we can think about why
- 41:09you're here and why this topic this work.
- 41:13Is important to you and and how we
- 41:16work together, support and uplift
- 41:18one another as we move forward.