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May 13, 2021: We are Here for You: A Smilow Patient and Family Forum

May 18, 2021
  • 00:00Question and answers. For those of
  • 00:02you who may not know me,
  • 00:04my name is Doctor Nita Ahuja and
  • 00:06I'm the interim director of the
  • 00:08Yale Cancer Center and Physician in
  • 00:09chief for Smilow Cancer Hospital.
  • 00:11I took this role over in March 1st when
  • 00:14Doctor Charles Fuchs left the institution.
  • 00:16My other job before this was
  • 00:18chair of the Department of Surgery
  • 00:20and they continued to do that.
  • 00:22But it's been my pleasure to take
  • 00:24the helm from Doctor Fuchs able
  • 00:26hands and it look forward to tonight
  • 00:28and getting to know all of you and.
  • 00:31Spending this evening together,
  • 00:32I also hope that this forum becomes
  • 00:35one that we can continue on to
  • 00:37connect with all of you as as this
  • 00:40is an important form for us to learn
  • 00:42bidirectionally on what things
  • 00:43are going well and what things.
  • 00:45Perhaps we can pay our attention to.
  • 00:48Next, slide running.
  • 00:53So this month it's really some exciting news.
  • 00:56This is oncology nursing month.
  • 00:57An May six was National Nursing Day.
  • 01:00Think we can all say that living
  • 01:02through the past year and almost
  • 01:04every day for our cancer patients
  • 01:07that the 400 plus nurses who deliver
  • 01:09care at the Smilow Cancer Hospital.
  • 01:11In AR15 ambulatory sites.
  • 01:13Around Connecticut and investor Lee,
  • 01:15Rhode Island, he couldn't deliver
  • 01:16the care without all of her nurses,
  • 01:19so they are central to our patient
  • 01:21care teams and we thank them
  • 01:23all for all that they do.
  • 01:25I also wanted to acknowledge that.
  • 01:28If you move to the next slide.
  • 01:30Money is a maze.
  • 01:32Also bladder Cancer Awareness Month
  • 01:34and brain Tumor Awareness Month.
  • 01:36And as some of you may know,
  • 01:39but Yale Cancer Center has done
  • 01:41some phenomenal breakthrough
  • 01:42advances in bladder cancer.
  • 01:43Especially, I want to point
  • 01:45out the work of Doctor Dan.
  • 01:47Petra Lack who just last year had
  • 01:49the first FDA approved therapy for
  • 01:51advanced bladder cancer pad set,
  • 01:53or in four to map that better team
  • 01:56in late 2019 and the follow up
  • 01:58studies of these new drug combination
  • 02:00and targeted therapies or country
  • 02:03currently continuing clinical trials.
  • 02:05And for brain cancer Smilow Cancer hospital,
  • 02:08the Shanavia family Brain Tumor Center
  • 02:10is also leading the vein with advanced
  • 02:13surgical options for our patients,
  • 02:15especially in intra operative MRI suite,
  • 02:17often able to schedule surgery and
  • 02:19difficult to treat brain tumors.
  • 02:22Patients who may need a second operation
  • 02:24on brain tumors and also awake surgeries
  • 02:27for to protect those critical functions
  • 02:30of the brain are neurosurgeons,
  • 02:32partner with neuro oncologists and other team
  • 02:34members to provide multidisciplinary cancer.
  • 02:37I think these are just two cancers,
  • 02:39but I thought it was nice to highlight
  • 02:42these two months in for you tonight.
  • 02:44Next slide.
  • 02:46Now here's some nice sort of news.
  • 02:49You know,
  • 02:49as we hopefully many of you
  • 02:51are getting vaccinated.
  • 02:52I thought it was nice to
  • 02:54share some cold with data.
  • 02:56I know we're joined by Doctor
  • 02:58Ballsack will share some more,
  • 03:00but just to give you some statistics
  • 03:02that over 25,000 of our people,
  • 03:04employees and medical staff
  • 03:05have now been vaccinated.
  • 03:07And if we look at the members
  • 03:09of the public vaccinate,
  • 03:10it's approaching close
  • 03:11to 200,000 since March 2020.
  • 03:14An if you look at the our system,
  • 03:17we've taken over taken care of around
  • 03:1912,000 patients overall since the
  • 03:21pandemic started in March of last year,
  • 03:23and in the past week alone
  • 03:25there were 219 patients.
  • 03:27I think it's exciting to see
  • 03:29that those numbers are dropping,
  • 03:31but it's also important to reflect back on
  • 03:33the last 14 months and think about what
  • 03:36we have done collectively with as a system,
  • 03:39and it's certainly the mortality rate is
  • 03:42the lowest in the state and I think it.
  • 03:45Points out all the hard work of our team
  • 03:48members in taking care of our patients.
  • 03:51Next slide.
  • 03:52And then if you look at activity,
  • 03:54I think I'm really proud to say that
  • 03:56all of our teams that we were able to
  • 03:59offer care to treat all of her patients.
  • 04:01These are patient volumes starting
  • 04:02in April of last year.
  • 04:03You can see them in dark blue
  • 04:05and we continue to Kate.
  • 04:06Take care for patients,
  • 04:07even when perhaps things were
  • 04:09very difficult in the early days
  • 04:10and have continued to do so.
  • 04:12I do think we all recognize that
  • 04:14there was some delay in getting
  • 04:16to cancer screenings,
  • 04:17and we're seeing a catch up,
  • 04:19especially in the last few months or more.
  • 04:21Patients are coming in,
  • 04:22and I do encourage everybody to
  • 04:24catch up with their cancer screening.
  • 04:26Whether it's mammograms or other
  • 04:27types of screening,
  • 04:28and I hope you know that we're all
  • 04:30here to make that available to you.
  • 04:33I have a wonderful agenda tonight,
  • 04:35moving to the next slide.
  • 04:37As I mentioned today,
  • 04:38we're going to have start up with
  • 04:40talking about cancer care and
  • 04:42covid vaccinations and how to what
  • 04:44does it mean for immuno suppressed
  • 04:46patients with vaccinations?
  • 04:47So we have our very own doctor
  • 04:49Kevin Billingsley who's speaking
  • 04:51at the spoken at this forum before.
  • 04:53These are Chief Medical Officer an
  • 04:55alongside we have Doctor Thomas
  • 04:57Balsac who is the Chief Clinical
  • 04:59Officer for the health system in
  • 05:01the CMO for IL New Haven Hospital.
  • 05:03Following that,
  • 05:04we have a delight that the integrative
  • 05:07medicine team that really think about
  • 05:09all of your health and how we make
  • 05:11you recover after you go through
  • 05:13your treatments and also being your partners.
  • 05:15So Doctor Sulphur is joined by
  • 05:17Michelle Brandon,
  • 05:17Ellen McNally and then hopefully
  • 05:19we'll have a panel discussion and
  • 05:21Q&A and Doctor you is joining us
  • 05:23from radiation oncology and then
  • 05:25in the last few minutes I I we have
  • 05:28a really nice surprise.
  • 05:29It's a video from our integrative
  • 05:31medicine team that I hope you'll stay on it.
  • 05:34Stand and listen to it.
  • 05:36So with that it's my pleasure to turn
  • 05:38this over to Doctor Billingsley.
  • 05:42Thank you Doctor Ahuja and I think
  • 05:44I'm I'm going to ask my colleague,
  • 05:47Doctor Balcerzak to lead off and give
  • 05:49us kind of the big picture overview
  • 05:52of where we are as a health system.
  • 05:55With our vaccination efforts,
  • 05:57thanks for joining us. Doctor B.
  • 05:59Yes and thank you both for inviting
  • 06:02me in the entire Smilow team.
  • 06:05I'm honored to be here,
  • 06:07so as Doctor Who you mentioned,
  • 06:10my role is the Chief Clinical
  • 06:12Officer for the health system,
  • 06:15and as such I was given the responsibility
  • 06:18for leading the efforts for the
  • 06:21vaccine rollout at the health system.
  • 06:23And we started that.
  • 06:25Three days after the first
  • 06:27emergency use authorization.
  • 06:29So exciting back in the second week
  • 06:31of December and we're lucky enough
  • 06:34to get direct allocation from the
  • 06:37federal government that we can.
  • 06:39We began vaccinating our staff.
  • 06:42As Doctor Ahuja mentioned in the
  • 06:44following weeks we vaccinated first all
  • 06:47of our high risk staff at the hospital
  • 06:49and across the health system in our
  • 06:52emergency departments in our ICU's.
  • 06:54And when I say we've
  • 06:55activated our staff there,
  • 06:57we vaccinated everyone who came in
  • 06:59contact with patients in those units.
  • 07:02Didn't matter whether you're
  • 07:03environmental services worker,
  • 07:04a pharmacist,
  • 07:05we tried to get everyone in and
  • 07:08as equitable fashion as we can.
  • 07:10And as Doctor Who also mentioned,
  • 07:12we're very proud that we are now at
  • 07:1580% of the entire T of our workforce,
  • 07:18and that includes folks that
  • 07:19work in billing offices in folks
  • 07:21that work remotely even,
  • 07:23and a the clinical portion
  • 07:24of our staff is much,
  • 07:26much higher that's vaccinated,
  • 07:27well into the high 80s in some cases
  • 07:30to 90% of our staff are vaccinated.
  • 07:32Doctor Billingsley is going to talk
  • 07:34a little bit about some of perhaps
  • 07:37the reasons why people are waiting.
  • 07:39There are certain conditions
  • 07:40where we want them to wait.
  • 07:42I'm in delay their vaccine until
  • 07:45some clinical milestones are met,
  • 07:47and certainly some of our.
  • 07:49Some of our employees are falling
  • 07:51into those domains as well,
  • 07:53but vaccine hesitancy is real.
  • 07:56It's something that we've spent
  • 07:57a lot of time trying to assist
  • 08:00folks in understanding.
  • 08:02We have had a approach that I
  • 08:04think is been one that many health
  • 08:07systems in many organizations across
  • 08:10the country have have also used.
  • 08:12Which is we use appreciative inquiry
  • 08:15meaning on trying to understand the
  • 08:17reasons why people are not receiving vaccine.
  • 08:20In some cases it's because of a
  • 08:22inability to use technology or
  • 08:24an inability to get access to
  • 08:26the technology to schedule.
  • 08:28So we've put in efforts to overcome
  • 08:31that both with our staff but also
  • 08:34as we pivoted to the Community.
  • 08:36We noticed a lot of the same
  • 08:38reasons in the community,
  • 08:40including those kinds of access.
  • 08:43Sometimes there are cultural barriers
  • 08:45and we have many coordinated efforts
  • 08:48now across the health system to
  • 08:50use many of the cultural interfaces
  • 08:52with our communities that have
  • 08:54been in place prior to COVID-19 for
  • 08:57other reasons like enrollment in
  • 08:59clinical trials or reach out for
  • 09:02cancer screening and those work
  • 09:04extremely well because I think we
  • 09:06would all agree that when information
  • 09:09comes from someone you already
  • 09:11have trust in someone you already
  • 09:13have a relationship with.
  • 09:15You're more likely to accept that
  • 09:18recommendation rather than from
  • 09:20someone you don't know,
  • 09:21or someone who you're just met,
  • 09:24and so we've worked with those folks
  • 09:28really effectively to try to drive across
  • 09:31all of our communities that we serve.
  • 09:34Vaccination acceptance.
  • 09:35We, as you saw in those early statistics
  • 09:39that Doctor Ahuja showed between December
  • 09:4215th and February 15th, we opened up.
  • 09:45Eight large scale mass vaccination
  • 09:47sites and are capable of delivering more
  • 09:50than 50,000 doses of vaccine per week.
  • 09:53Unfortunately,
  • 09:53the maximum we ever reached was 48,000
  • 09:57over a couple of weeks in a row,
  • 10:00primarily in the beginning because
  • 10:02we were not given an adequate
  • 10:04allocation from the federal government
  • 10:06the way the allocation work was,
  • 10:09the federal government decided
  • 10:11which states got which percent,
  • 10:13and on the most, for the most part.
  • 10:16They did it by a straight population density,
  • 10:19so we are about three and a half million
  • 10:22people in the state of Connecticut,
  • 10:24which means we are 1% of the
  • 10:27population of the United States,
  • 10:28so we would receive about 1% of the
  • 10:31production of each week's vaccine
  • 10:32that the federal government allocated,
  • 10:34and then the DPH did a very nice job in
  • 10:37my opinion of making sure that there
  • 10:40was equitable distribution across the state.
  • 10:42So I think many people have heard the
  • 10:45statistic that more than 75% of the
  • 10:47population in the state of Connecticut.
  • 10:49Has now received at least one dose
  • 10:52of vaccine and more than 55% of
  • 10:55the state is fully vaccinated.
  • 10:57I think not a day goes by, or certainly not.
  • 11:01A week goes by where there is not
  • 11:04a major piece of new information
  • 11:07about either the disease, spread,
  • 11:09variance vaccine, etc.
  • 11:10And of course 2 very big pieces of news.
  • 11:14This past week have been first the
  • 11:16opening up of vaccine eligibility
  • 11:18for the Pfizer vaccine.
  • 11:20To children as young as 12 years
  • 11:23old and that now will add another
  • 11:25174 approximately 1000 individuals
  • 11:27in the state of Connecticut that
  • 11:30are eligible for vaccine.
  • 11:32And we've opened up as of yesterday all
  • 11:35of our sites to individuals as low as 12.
  • 11:39And the second piece of information
  • 11:41which will talk about and I think
  • 11:44it's maybe caused a little bit of buzz
  • 11:47just a short while ago is the concept.
  • 11:50Now that there is a really,
  • 11:52I think large carat to earn when
  • 11:55you get vaccinated,
  • 11:56which is the CDC has altered
  • 11:58its recommendation,
  • 11:59suggesting that if you are fully vaccinated
  • 12:01and there's an important definition there,
  • 12:04meaning that you have been two weeks after
  • 12:07completing your vaccine schedule so for.
  • 12:09NJ,
  • 12:10that's one dose an for Moderna and Pfizer.
  • 12:13That's two doses 21 or 28 days apart.
  • 12:16You need to add 2 weeks to the final
  • 12:19date of that vaccine and then you
  • 12:21would be considered fully vaccinated.
  • 12:24So if you are in that state,
  • 12:26the new recommendations by the
  • 12:28CDC in certain circumstances,
  • 12:30importantly not in a healthcare environment,
  • 12:32not in mass transit, not on an airplane.
  • 12:35If you are anywhere else,
  • 12:37then you can whether inside or outside.
  • 12:40Unless there are rules superseding it,
  • 12:42you can not wear a mask.
  • 12:44We can talk about some of the data behind
  • 12:47that and we can talk about that in the Q&A.
  • 12:50If there are questions,
  • 12:52which I assume there is so,
  • 12:54so this is the only haven health
  • 12:56system has given a total of 380,000
  • 12:58doses of vaccine to date and we have
  • 13:01fully vaccinated 180,000 people.
  • 13:02So it's been an incredible effort.
  • 13:04It's been many folks I think have either
  • 13:07been vaccinated through one of our
  • 13:09sites or volunteered or worked there.
  • 13:12Really, it's really particularly
  • 13:13the very beginning was really
  • 13:15exhilarating to be part of. That.
  • 13:17To know that we're finally doing
  • 13:19something to beat this disease,
  • 13:21and I'll speak from personal experience.
  • 13:23It feels great to be vaccinated.
  • 13:25I was finally able to see my fully
  • 13:28vaccinated 89 and 88 year old respectively
  • 13:30for my mom and my dad parents two weeks ago.
  • 13:33So that was the first time in a year.
  • 13:37So to be able to get back to those
  • 13:39kinds of things are really exciting.
  • 13:42Some things are not so exciting.
  • 13:44My daughter is moving to a fifth floor
  • 13:46walk up in New York City on Saturday,
  • 13:48so I'll be in less.
  • 13:49Someone wants to help be
  • 13:50carrying the mattress up.
  • 13:51Those Flight 5 flights of stairs.
  • 13:53Kevin, I know you're pretty strong.
  • 13:54You're a runner.
  • 13:56But with regards to vaccination,
  • 13:58so who's eligible right now if
  • 14:00you are above the age of 12?
  • 14:03You are eligible Doctor Billingsley's
  • 14:05going to get into some of the
  • 14:07caveats with that with regard to
  • 14:10immunosuppression and stem cell transplant,
  • 14:12which there are some but one of the
  • 14:14things that I'll end with before we can
  • 14:17go and Doctor Billingslea can talk a
  • 14:20little bit about some special cases is no.
  • 14:23No discussion about vaccination is
  • 14:25complete without a discussion of
  • 14:27how are these variants which are
  • 14:29sometimes named after the place
  • 14:31where they emerged but increasingly
  • 14:32being named by a number convention.
  • 14:35To try to avoid stigma of those places.
  • 14:38But how are these variants being in
  • 14:41or how are these variants impacting
  • 14:44our enthusiasm about vaccination?
  • 14:46The short answer is, is well,
  • 14:49there's some evidence that at
  • 14:51least some of the variants can.
  • 14:54In part,
  • 14:55there's a lot of parsing my words carefully
  • 14:58here of aid some immunity in general.
  • 15:02The vaccine works to
  • 15:04prevent most diseases in.
  • 15:05All of the variants that
  • 15:08have thus far emerged.
  • 15:10Now it's important to understand that as
  • 15:12long as there is widespread transmission
  • 15:15of COVID-19 among large populations,
  • 15:18the pop the possibility
  • 15:20of a new variant exists.
  • 15:22So that is in itself a major point
  • 15:25that would want us to pursue large
  • 15:29scale vaccination even more quickly.
  • 15:31So that's one point I want to make.
  • 15:36The second point I want to make in
  • 15:39this might be germane to the second
  • 15:41part of these comments is that
  • 15:44there is also information suggesting
  • 15:47that immunocompromised patients
  • 15:49that have immunocompromised nation
  • 15:51because of something that they are on
  • 15:54because they have.
  • 15:55They have inflammatory bowel disease
  • 15:57or rheumatoid arthritis and therefore
  • 15:59take a immune modulating medicine,
  • 16:02or they have an immune
  • 16:04system disorder like AIDS.
  • 16:06Or they are immunocompromised
  • 16:08because of chemotherapy that they
  • 16:10may be long term reservoirs of the
  • 16:13virus and therefore be ones that
  • 16:15are more at risk of being spreaders.
  • 16:17So that's new information that's
  • 16:19that's coming out and that may impact
  • 16:22how we think about vaccination or
  • 16:25other strategies in the future.
  • 16:27But then that's very incomplete science,
  • 16:29so we don't really know much more than that,
  • 16:33except that the virus spreads
  • 16:35in a very uneven fashion.
  • 16:37Let me stop there and I ask Doctor
  • 16:39Billingsley to give some specific
  • 16:41detail with regard to cancer
  • 16:43patients in cancer survivors.
  • 16:47Thanks very much and I will
  • 16:49echo some of those comments.
  • 16:51It has been enormously gratifying
  • 16:53to be part of this health care
  • 16:55system is we have rolled out this
  • 16:58vaccine effort across the state
  • 17:00not only for cancer patients,
  • 17:02but for all of all of our patients
  • 17:04and and population around
  • 17:06the state of Connecticut.
  • 17:08And it has been.
  • 17:10Remarkable to see the
  • 17:12participation and the success.
  • 17:14Could I have the slides, Renee? So
  • 17:19one of the
  • 17:20things that I
  • 17:21will just start off by saying is.
  • 17:25Many of our patients do have concerns
  • 17:28about if they have not been vaccinated.
  • 17:31Is the are these vaccines safe?
  • 17:36In the setting of the cancer
  • 17:38diagnosis or cancer treatment,
  • 17:40or if they're in the immediate post
  • 17:44treatment follow-up period, and if I
  • 17:47impart no other message this evening.
  • 17:50I need to to really reiterate the
  • 17:52point that these vaccines have
  • 17:55proven to be extraordinarily safe,
  • 17:57safe, really for everyone,
  • 17:59and certainly for our patients who have
  • 18:03cancer or undergoing treatment or follow up.
  • 18:06And I would make the point that.
  • 18:10As as our patients.
  • 18:13People are particularly
  • 18:15vulnerable to this infection,
  • 18:17so the motivation to get all of our
  • 18:22smilow patients protected is high.
  • 18:25I would also make Canada side point that.
  • 18:29As members of the Smilow community,
  • 18:32patients, family members,
  • 18:33supporters and those of us who
  • 18:36are clinicians and caregivers,
  • 18:38we all have a unique role and
  • 18:41opportunity to serve as as advocates
  • 18:44for vaccination and engage those
  • 18:46who may be fearful or sceptical.
  • 18:49And I think this is part of of
  • 18:52keeping safe if we can not only get
  • 18:56vaccinated ourselves but get our fan.
  • 18:59Friends family members,
  • 19:01loved ones and social circle vaccinated.
  • 19:04We will all be safer.
  • 19:06A couple of other key points bear
  • 19:09emphasis for those of those of our
  • 19:13patients who are on active treatment,
  • 19:15there is really no reason.
  • 19:18With very few exceptions,
  • 19:20to disrupt your therapy or
  • 19:22treatment to get your vaccination.
  • 19:24Vaccination should be easel,
  • 19:26should be easily sequenced in
  • 19:28around your ongoing treatments.
  • 19:31In vaccination is appropriate with
  • 19:33really the entire spectrum of treatments
  • 19:36that our patients are receiving that
  • 19:40includes traditional cytotoxic chemotherapy,
  • 19:42radiation treatment,
  • 19:44hormonal therapy, targeted therapy,
  • 19:46immunotherapy, steroids,
  • 19:47and surgical treatment.
  • 19:49I have had a number of questions
  • 19:53from patients over the past months
  • 19:56as immunotherapy is becoming
  • 19:58an increasingly prominent.
  • 20:00Element in cancer care.
  • 20:02Would the vaccine blunt the
  • 20:05effect of their therapy?
  • 20:07Or Alternatively,
  • 20:08would the immunotherapy
  • 20:09blunt the vaccine response?
  • 20:11The evidence overwhelmingly, is known.
  • 20:14These are safe and effective,
  • 20:16and they can be combined without ill effects.
  • 20:20Next slide,
  • 20:22please.
  • 20:23There are a couple of small but
  • 20:27important key populations where we
  • 20:29need to make some modifications
  • 20:31around the timing of vaccination.
  • 20:34Vaccination is still entirely safe,
  • 20:36but the timing is related to sequencing
  • 20:39the vaccination with the cancer therapy.
  • 20:42To optimize the protection from the vaccine.
  • 20:46So patients with hematologic malignancies
  • 20:49and I'm speaking specifically about
  • 20:52our our our folks with leukemia
  • 20:54lymphoma to a certain degree,
  • 20:56myeloma.
  • 20:56The timing of vaccination can be
  • 20:59important and some treatments
  • 21:01may be delayed for a few weeks
  • 21:04to perform the vaccination and a
  • 21:06few selected disease types which
  • 21:09are slowly moving and indolent.
  • 21:12Alternatively,
  • 21:12some vaccinations will be deferred
  • 21:15until after treatment if the treatment
  • 21:19itself is immuno depleting and the
  • 21:22treatment is of some degree of urgency.
  • 21:26In those situations it is of
  • 21:29course even more critical that
  • 21:31patients maintain the appropriate
  • 21:34precautions of mask wearing,
  • 21:37social distancing and immunization
  • 21:39of their social circle.
  • 21:42Really important in these situations
  • 21:44to speak with your hematology team.
  • 21:46They are well aware of all of these
  • 21:49timing issues and will work with you
  • 21:51and your family closely to optimize
  • 21:54the timing of your vaccination.
  • 21:56We also, of course are a significant
  • 21:59Center for haematopoietic
  • 22:01set stem cell transplants,
  • 22:02as well as cellular therapy
  • 22:05and by cell therapy.
  • 22:06I'm referring to CAR T cells which were
  • 22:09using for a variety of malignancy's
  • 22:12for people who are undergoing these
  • 22:15treatments and or there in the
  • 22:18immediate post transplant period,
  • 22:20it is important to keep yourself
  • 22:22absolutely safe and protected,
  • 22:24because the vaccination will be.
  • 22:27Lead for sure period of time until
  • 22:29the immune system is reestablished
  • 22:31and recovered after these treatments.
  • 22:34Again, very important to discuss
  • 22:37the timing with your team.
  • 22:39I think you can drop the slides.
  • 22:43So the key points to take away
  • 22:47are vaccination is safe.
  • 22:50It's really only a few small patient
  • 22:53populations where we need to be mindful
  • 22:56of the timing and please reach out and
  • 22:59in a thoughtful ways was described.
  • 23:01Engage friends,
  • 23:02family and loved ones in and being
  • 23:05a vaccine advocate.
  • 23:07Thanks folks.
  • 23:09Thank you doctor ballsack.
  • 23:10Thank you doctor Billingsley.
  • 23:11We will save the Q&A for the end and
  • 23:13with and I'd like next to turn to
  • 23:15Doctor Sulphur and his team to give
  • 23:18us an update on integrative medicine.
  • 23:31Gary, you're on mute.
  • 23:35Alright. Thank you,
  • 23:36thank you all so much for having me.
  • 23:39It's really quite a pleasure and
  • 23:41an honor to get to talk to you.
  • 23:43Today. I'm going to talk about
  • 23:45integrative medicine or you're going
  • 23:46to talk about what it is and what we
  • 23:48offered smiling to help support you.
  • 23:50But you know, I want to start
  • 23:52with a little bit of that one more
  • 23:54thing. Do you wanna swap?
  • 23:55I think you are. You may want to
  • 23:57swap the displays and 'cause what's
  • 23:59showing is your is my presenter.
  • 24:01Yeah yeah, thank you.
  • 24:02You can see all my notes.
  • 24:06We just swapped the display,
  • 24:07so I think it'll work great.
  • 24:10This is above my pay grade.
  • 24:14If you hit the swap display and
  • 24:16it usually just flips it around.
  • 24:21Hey.
  • 24:24That work no. But you see it on the top left.
  • 24:28It says swap displace. Try that.
  • 24:32Try that.
  • 24:36How's that there you are?
  • 24:37You're near perfect, alright? I keep, I
  • 24:39keep saying that I'm turning into my
  • 24:41parents when it comes to technology.
  • 24:44It's a little disturbing,
  • 24:45but that's OK, so again,
  • 24:46I'm really honored and and it's quite
  • 24:48a pleasure to get to be able to talk
  • 24:50to you all about integrative medicine.
  • 24:53It's Milo, and what we offer and how we
  • 24:55can support you through the journey and.
  • 24:58I'd like to start off with the
  • 25:00metaphor I really stole this from
  • 25:02from another integrative oncologist,
  • 25:04but it's it's an important one,
  • 25:05and you'll also see it repeated
  • 25:07in the video later,
  • 25:09and I really want you to think
  • 25:11about your cancer as a weed an
  • 25:13you know when this weed grows,
  • 25:15it really becomes everything
  • 25:16that you can think about.
  • 25:18It consumes your life and
  • 25:19it becomes your focus.
  • 25:23And your oncologist is phenomenal at
  • 25:25dealing with the Sweden and the doctors.
  • 25:27It's Milo or some of the best in the
  • 25:29world to really take care of it and
  • 25:31and help you through that process, but.
  • 25:35You know, and and we know that there's
  • 25:37so much more to you and there's this
  • 25:40garden that really surrounds the lead,
  • 25:42and it's easy to forget about that garden.
  • 25:44Ann, you know we're here to help nurture it.
  • 25:47And So what do we think about?
  • 25:49We think about turning our attention
  • 25:51back to the rest of this party.
  • 25:53And how do we make the rest of this
  • 25:56garden flourish? Shouldn't really?
  • 25:58How do we make the soil inhospitable
  • 26:00to more weeds?
  • 26:01So how do we even kill the weed without
  • 26:04necessarily focusing on the weed itself?
  • 26:06And we want to build that for you.
  • 26:09And if that metaphor didn't
  • 26:10really capture you,
  • 26:11you know I can put it simply.
  • 26:13It's really the best of what kept people
  • 26:15well for thousands of years combined with
  • 26:18the best of what keeps people well now.
  • 26:20It's really about making you feel better,
  • 26:23whatever that might mean for you, Ann.
  • 26:25It's about meeting you where you are.
  • 26:28We have a huge toolbox to pull
  • 26:30from and so for some patients,
  • 26:32that might mean yoga and
  • 26:34meditation and for other patients,
  • 26:36that might mean nutrition and fitness.
  • 26:38But we're here to support all of that.
  • 26:42Just want to go over some definitions
  • 26:44because we're not an alternative.
  • 26:46We're not alternative medicine and
  • 26:48alternative medicine is really when you
  • 26:50use a non mainstream practice in place of.
  • 26:53Your conventional therapy.
  • 26:54And we don't really consider
  • 26:57ourselves a compliment because
  • 26:59compliment is is simply a compliment.
  • 27:02A little addition.
  • 27:03What integrative medicine is really
  • 27:05about is bringing together these
  • 27:07conventional therapies that you're
  • 27:09getting with the complementary
  • 27:11therapies in a coordinated way,
  • 27:14and our role in our Department is
  • 27:17about coordinating that for you.
  • 27:22And so some of the modalities that
  • 27:23fall into integrative medicine,
  • 27:24and some of these may be familiar to
  • 27:26some of you, and some of them may not be.
  • 27:29Things like biologically or
  • 27:31nutritionally based therapy.
  • 27:32So that means diet, nutrition.
  • 27:34It might mean vitamins and might
  • 27:37be fitness and physical fitness.
  • 27:39We have mind body interventions like
  • 27:41meditation or yoga or biofeedback,
  • 27:43and then there's manipulative
  • 27:45or biochemical therapies such as
  • 27:48massage therapy which we offer here.
  • 27:50And then you have a whole realm
  • 27:52of energy or spiritual practices,
  • 27:54and so that may mean connecting with
  • 27:55your religion or connecting with your faith,
  • 27:58or it may mean something like Reiki.
  • 28:00And then there's entire alternative
  • 28:03medical systems which we don't.
  • 28:05Take part in,
  • 28:05but we pull from and we bring
  • 28:07them into your care.
  • 28:12And so this is our absolutely
  • 28:15incredible team of practitioners.
  • 28:16We have massage therapists.
  • 28:18We have yoga practitioners.
  • 28:20We have Reiki people trained
  • 28:22in Reiki and meditation.
  • 28:24Guennol to help you through your journey.
  • 28:28So what do we offer?
  • 28:29One of the one of the great things
  • 28:31that we offer is oncology massage
  • 28:34and this is really specialized
  • 28:35massage therapy that's focused on the
  • 28:38patient who is going through cancer.
  • 28:40We offer this impatient and outpatient
  • 28:42and spin shown to improve side effects
  • 28:45of chemotherapy but also reduce pain,
  • 28:47promote relaxation and boost your mood.
  • 28:49I always feel better after I get a massage.
  • 28:54Reiki so this is a light
  • 28:56touching therapy or even a
  • 28:57non touch therapy that comes from the
  • 29:00Japanese tradition and it promotes
  • 29:02relaxation and stress reduction and
  • 29:03this is also something that we offer.
  • 29:09Dana Brewer, who is part of our team,
  • 29:12has created this beautiful and
  • 29:14robust creative expressions program
  • 29:15an I would urge you after we're
  • 29:18done today to go look up smilow,
  • 29:20Hartson Smiler Rocks,
  • 29:21which are some of the projects
  • 29:23that she's done and what these are.
  • 29:25Are you know, collaborative installations,
  • 29:27group projects where patients or doctors
  • 29:30all come together and participate in some
  • 29:33form of creativity or art expression.
  • 29:36What we've done beautifully,
  • 29:37and I can't take credit for it.
  • 29:40But we've really pivoted quite well
  • 29:42with covid towards virtual classes,
  • 29:44and we have a whole slew of live online
  • 29:47classes offered throughout the week.
  • 29:49And then we have a big giant video
  • 29:52archive that's available to you,
  • 29:53free of cost at all times.
  • 29:56Some of the classes that we offer,
  • 29:58gentle yoga, restorative yoga,
  • 30:00and that's more about sitting and
  • 30:02relaxing poses for extended period time.
  • 30:04We offer Tai Chi,
  • 30:05which you can see on the upper right.
  • 30:08Of the screen, which is a martial art
  • 30:11and it's based in the Chinese tradition.
  • 30:15We offer also offer a bunch
  • 30:17of meditation opportunities,
  • 30:18so whether that's guided meditation
  • 30:20or beginners class or we also
  • 30:22offer phone meditation one on one,
  • 30:24the most important thing that you know is
  • 30:27that no previous experience is required.
  • 30:29All bodies,
  • 30:30all types,
  • 30:31all abilities,
  • 30:31they are welcome and we really think
  • 30:34that every person at every level of
  • 30:37experience could get something out of this.
  • 30:42And then finally we offer an
  • 30:44integrative medicine consultation,
  • 30:45and that's a one on one appointment with me.
  • 30:48And together, you and I,
  • 30:50we create a comprehensive plan
  • 30:51that involves your nutrition,
  • 30:53your physical fitness.
  • 30:54We think about mind, body modalities
  • 30:56and learning meditation practices.
  • 30:57We talk about your spirituality,
  • 30:59your religion and how that
  • 31:01plays into your care.
  • 31:03What we've also created,
  • 31:04which is really exciting and new,
  • 31:06is for those patients who feel the
  • 31:08need to be on lots of supplements
  • 31:10during their cancer treatment.
  • 31:12We're working with the pharmacist
  • 31:13and a dietitian to make sure that
  • 31:15those supplements are safe and
  • 31:17not going to interact with your
  • 31:19chemotherapy or other medications
  • 31:20that you may be taking.
  • 31:24So how do you stay in touch with us?
  • 31:27How do you stay on top of things?
  • 31:29Well, we offer a weekly email that updates
  • 31:31you on all the classes that were offering.
  • 31:33We also again have this wonderful
  • 31:36video archive an you can reach out
  • 31:38to us and useless emails on top
  • 31:40there and I'll leave it at the end.
  • 31:43Ann to get a consultation with me.
  • 31:44I always ask that you talk
  • 31:46to your provider first.
  • 31:47But if you want to call directly,
  • 31:49the phone number is there and
  • 31:51we have lots of virtual events
  • 31:53that are available to you and.
  • 31:55That's it, so thank you so much
  • 31:57again for for giving me the time.
  • 31:59I hope we can really contribute in a
  • 32:01meaningful way to the journey that you're on.
  • 32:04Thank you.
  • 32:11Thank you Doctor Software that
  • 32:13was an amazing set of offerings.
  • 32:15I know there are lots of
  • 32:17questions for all of you,
  • 32:19and they were also questions and
  • 32:21earlier to Renee by our patients.
  • 32:23I'm gonna sort of probably
  • 32:25ask all of our panelists,
  • 32:27including Doctor You who's joining
  • 32:29us from radiation Oncology
  • 32:30and perhaps we can give us an
  • 32:32update on the recent news around
  • 32:34elector so Doctor Balls Sack.
  • 32:36I think we're starting with you
  • 32:38first and there's a question up here.
  • 32:41The CDC today announced relaxing
  • 32:43indoor masking as you mentioned,
  • 32:45and Governor Lamont says the state
  • 32:47will follow suit on May 19th.
  • 32:49How is the health system planning
  • 32:51on managing that?
  • 32:52You didn't think you were
  • 32:54going to get off easy tonight
  • 32:57where you certainly not. You know.
  • 32:59I think that as I've said as I said,
  • 33:02a few moments ago,
  • 33:04you know the information has really
  • 33:06evolved on every level for every aspect
  • 33:09of the pandemic and it will continue.
  • 33:12To evolve and what we saw today
  • 33:16was Doctor Wolenski at the CDC
  • 33:20has given the entire country A.
  • 33:23Benefit if you are vaccinated.
  • 33:25However, in a healthcare environment,
  • 33:27that benefit does not apply,
  • 33:29so she was very clear.
  • 33:31Doctor Willensky was very clear
  • 33:33to say that this mask mandate
  • 33:35continues in healthcare environments.
  • 33:37So that means for all of us who
  • 33:40work there and it means for patients
  • 33:43and visitors if they come there.
  • 33:46I don't think it's I think it's going
  • 33:49to be sometime before that gets relaxed,
  • 33:52even though.
  • 33:53We are some the staff that is
  • 33:55employees and medical staff are some
  • 33:58of the most vaccinated individuals
  • 34:00or highest density of vaccinated
  • 34:03individuals in the world right now.
  • 34:05But still because the fact that
  • 34:07there are patients among us in
  • 34:10the possibility of spread and the
  • 34:12fact that there are vulnerable
  • 34:14individuals because of the immune
  • 34:17modulation and other things that
  • 34:19Doctor Billingsley mentioned will
  • 34:21continue to have the mask.
  • 34:23Wearing required
  • 34:27thank you. Doctor Balls Sack a as you
  • 34:29mentioned it is a complex but evolving
  • 34:31equation and and I know you keep us informed.
  • 34:34Doctor Billingslea I have a question for you.
  • 34:37I think this is around a vaccination in
  • 34:39this patient asked I'm most comfortable
  • 34:41being administered administered vaccine
  • 34:43through my smilow care team as they
  • 34:45best know me and my treatment plan.
  • 34:47Will this be an option so I presume
  • 34:50they mean if they come in for
  • 34:53their treatment can they get their
  • 34:55vaccination at the same time? That's
  • 34:58a. That's a great treatment are great,
  • 35:01great question and an appropriate
  • 35:03question regarding integration and
  • 35:05vaccination with the treatment.
  • 35:07I will. Explain that we have been
  • 35:10partnering with all of the vaccination
  • 35:13sites established through the
  • 35:16healthcare system and were we are
  • 35:19actually encouraging our patients.
  • 35:21To get their vaccination at
  • 35:25the standard vaccination sites.
  • 35:28And we recognize the fact that in some
  • 35:31ways that is less convenient than coming
  • 35:34to their traditional site of care and.
  • 35:37We like the fact that people
  • 35:39feel comfortable in our sights.
  • 35:41But one of the things that we are
  • 35:44working to to do is continue to keep
  • 35:47our patients as safe as possible and
  • 35:50kind of keep the flow of UN vaccinated
  • 35:53individuals as low as possible
  • 35:56through our clinical care sites.
  • 35:59Our teams are available available to you,
  • 36:02however,
  • 36:02to help you find a convenient
  • 36:04site for your vaccination.
  • 36:08Kevin, just hold on there.
  • 36:09I think you just gotta comment
  • 36:11that going to a vaccination
  • 36:12site puts the patient at risk.
  • 36:14How do we respond to that?
  • 36:17You know I am.
  • 36:19I I know that that is a concern.
  • 36:23I think most of the vaccination
  • 36:25sites are at least those in our
  • 36:27system are using all of the
  • 36:30appropriate precautions to keep
  • 36:31every individual coming through the
  • 36:34site safe and secure and they have.
  • 36:37Good protocols and practices and
  • 36:40infrastructure set up to be debt. I'm
  • 36:43gonna reiterate that I think Doctor Ballsack
  • 36:45started the evening commenting around
  • 36:47the euphoria around going to the sites,
  • 36:49but also the community and how everyone
  • 36:51looks out and keeps people safe.
  • 36:53I had taken my family members to be sites
  • 36:56and I found the same feeling there.
  • 36:59Absolutely wonderful.
  • 37:00It's the sterility.
  • 37:01It's safe spaces so I think this
  • 37:03this is the best we have sort of
  • 37:05delivering the vaccines given
  • 37:07especially the precautions in handling
  • 37:09that result where you had a lot of
  • 37:11questions around the services and.
  • 37:13How do we get access to those services?
  • 37:16I think I'm seeing that question again
  • 37:18and again and I know you had some
  • 37:21of the comments around the website,
  • 37:22but can you give a little bit more detail
  • 37:25on how people can get access these services?
  • 37:29Short, so really if you just
  • 37:32Google smile integrative medicine,
  • 37:33it'll come right up and
  • 37:35will be available to you.
  • 37:37We also have Ellen here.
  • 37:38Who's who's one of our yoga
  • 37:40teachers and we have Michelle who's
  • 37:43one of her massage therapists.
  • 37:45Maybe they can offer something. Sure,
  • 37:48Gary, thank you regarding massage.
  • 37:49If you or a family member or an inpatient
  • 37:52you just ask somebody from your medical
  • 37:54team to put a console to order.
  • 37:57It will come directly to our
  • 37:59head coordinator and then we
  • 38:01can get you set up for massage.
  • 38:03If you're ambulatory you can come
  • 38:04into the York Street campus and do
  • 38:07that the same way we can schedule you
  • 38:09an appointment for a table massage.
  • 38:11So again, just ask somebody from your
  • 38:14medical team for a konsult order and
  • 38:16we can get that going fairly quickly.
  • 38:18Anne Anne our online programs are available.
  • 38:21Either lied when we do them through our
  • 38:24calendar or most of them are also recorded.
  • 38:27So as Gary said,
  • 38:29if you Google either Yale Cancer
  • 38:31Center Archive video archives or
  • 38:33or smilow integrative medicine,
  • 38:35you'll find all of our online
  • 38:37programs that way.
  • 38:40In in Michelle, it sounds like
  • 38:41you need a referral doctor,
  • 38:42so for someone asked the same question,
  • 38:44do they need a referral from
  • 38:46their oncologist to get a console
  • 38:47with you? Not necessarily,
  • 38:48but but I think it's the best path
  • 38:51forward so we can work collaboratively.
  • 38:57Thank you doctor. So Brenan cancer survivors
  • 39:00can also come in right. It's not just
  • 39:02recourse any any. Any current
  • 39:04or previous patient of smile.
  • 39:06Right, I think that analogy of
  • 39:08the garden right bringing the
  • 39:10healing garden that that was great,
  • 39:12and I think a lot of people resonated
  • 39:14with that and Renee it typed in the
  • 39:17website address also on the chat box.
  • 39:19So thank you, Renee.
  • 39:20Just so as Doctor Sofer mentioned,
  • 39:22just type it in your favorite search engine,
  • 39:25integrative medicine smilow
  • 39:26and pops right up.
  • 39:27So thank you for all that stuff to you.
  • 39:30I want to break,
  • 39:31come back to come to you and and maybe
  • 39:34you can tell us one a little bit about.
  • 39:37Under the Radiation oncology services,
  • 39:39how they are in the system and
  • 39:41are meant to really provide care
  • 39:43patients to patients closest to home.
  • 39:46So maybe you can give enlightened
  • 39:48the patients a little bit about
  • 39:50the radiation oncology program.
  • 39:52Sure.
  • 39:55Well, radiation oncology
  • 39:56is is one of the you know.
  • 39:59Pillars of treatment with surgical oncology.
  • 40:02Medical oncology, integrative medicine
  • 40:04and we all work together as a team to
  • 40:09treat patients who need radiotherapy.
  • 40:12We have satellite locations as far South
  • 40:16as Greenwich all the way up to water,
  • 40:20furred, and we're traditionally.
  • 40:22Scene after a patient sees a medical
  • 40:26oncologist or surgical oncologists.
  • 40:28But in some situations were seen
  • 40:31immediately at diagnosis for certain
  • 40:33indications like prostate cancer,
  • 40:35radiation oncology's made great
  • 40:38strides over the last couple of
  • 40:41decades and so it's become a very,
  • 40:44very technologically advanced treatment
  • 40:46that requires a big team and I'm happy to
  • 40:50take any questions about our Department.
  • 40:53The challenges that we've been through and
  • 40:56the bright future that we have as well.
  • 40:59Thank you God for you, and I know that
  • 41:02recently there was some information in
  • 41:03the news around the electric system,
  • 41:05but I I believe all their systems are
  • 41:07back at go and in all our patients are
  • 41:10doing really well on treatment.
  • 41:12Yeah, I mean briefly,
  • 41:13what happened was the elected mosaic
  • 41:16systems of record and verify software
  • 41:18system and what that means is it's
  • 41:21a system that's used by the entire
  • 41:23radiation oncology Department to keep
  • 41:25track of radiation treatments it
  • 41:27manage is the transfer of electronic
  • 41:29treatment plans from planning software
  • 41:31to the actual machines and serves
  • 41:33as our radiation oncology chart.
  • 41:35On April 20th, elected Mosaic went down.
  • 41:38Nationally, over 40 sites and we
  • 41:41were immediately unable to access the
  • 41:43information in the cloud and we were
  • 41:46unable to use our linear accelerators,
  • 41:49which are radiation treatment machines so.
  • 41:53Later that evening, on April 20th,
  • 41:55we thought it was just going
  • 41:57to be a brief outage,
  • 42:00but it became apparent that it was
  • 42:02nationwide and it was severe and
  • 42:05at that moment yell information
  • 42:07technology and physics jumped into
  • 42:09action and worked through the night.
  • 42:12On the next day,
  • 42:13on April 21st,
  • 42:14the physics and the information
  • 42:17technology team informed us that they had
  • 42:20developed a work around this work around.
  • 42:22I want to emphasize does not
  • 42:25use the cloud system,
  • 42:26but is intentionally labor intensive and
  • 42:28is done with three radiation therapists.
  • 42:31Physicists in an MD present at the
  • 42:33beginning of every treatment and
  • 42:35all subsequent treatments were
  • 42:37administered with particular care.
  • 42:39Knowing that the electronic recording
  • 42:41verify system was not there and
  • 42:44so multiple checks and timeouts
  • 42:46were performed in a very labor
  • 42:48intensive way as we tried to adapt
  • 42:51to this new reality that are.
  • 42:53Our cloud system was down,
  • 42:55I think at present time Doctor Who.
  • 42:58Joe, you're absolutely right,
  • 42:59we are making our way back through the
  • 43:02Herculean efforts of our physics dosimetry
  • 43:04and information technology staff.
  • 43:06We have performed work that traditionally
  • 43:09takes months over the course of weeks.
  • 43:11We've set up a newly built on premises
  • 43:14version of the recording Verify system,
  • 43:17but work continues behind the
  • 43:19scenes utilizing both the manual
  • 43:21treatment as well as this new system.
  • 43:24I hope patients haven't noticed
  • 43:25because we're trying to do as little
  • 43:28disruption to their care as possible,
  • 43:30and this is happening during a time
  • 43:32of increased patient volumes as
  • 43:34shown in that slide by Doctor Ahuja.
  • 43:37And I do want to say as we emerge from this,
  • 43:41we have a couple exciting technology
  • 43:43developments you'll be hearing
  • 43:44about in the future.
  • 43:45I'm going to tease right now and I couldn't
  • 43:48be prouder of our faculty or staff.
  • 43:51And I hope everyone listening
  • 43:53is feeling some hope around.
  • 43:55You know Covid and and feeling a
  • 43:57little hope for us in radiation
  • 43:59oncology that we're going to emerge
  • 44:01stronger and more nimble,
  • 44:02and I think the future is bright,
  • 44:04not only for us in our Department,
  • 44:06but also for this hospital.
  • 44:09Thank
  • 44:09you doctor you.
  • 44:10I'm going to pivot back to vaccination.
  • 44:12There are a couple of questions,
  • 44:14one and I don't know if Doctor Balzer
  • 44:16Billingsley are going to answer.
  • 44:18It's around allergies.
  • 44:19It's like an answer. Board
  • 44:22certified allergist. That's
  • 44:23true, of course.
  • 44:27Covid questions,
  • 44:28but I'm happy to answer well.
  • 44:30Whoever wants to have
  • 44:31allergies are raging.
  • 44:32Should you get your
  • 44:33vaccination?
  • 44:33If your allergies are raising,
  • 44:35that's on the chat box.
  • 44:36Whoever and, of course,
  • 44:38that is offered since you volunteer,
  • 44:40would you like to answer
  • 44:41that? Sure, the short answer is
  • 44:43absolutely, allergies are not
  • 44:44not a contraindication to getting
  • 44:46here to giving your vaccine,
  • 44:47and it shouldn't be a reason
  • 44:49to delay your vaccine.
  • 44:51I think Doctor Billingslea said it right.
  • 44:53Can't get your vaccination and all that. I
  • 44:56remember that from tonight but another follow
  • 44:58up in this is maybe a little
  • 45:01bit more detail.
  • 45:02This is a patient who asked that.
  • 45:04Is there one vaccine better than
  • 45:06the other that I should get?
  • 45:09In terms of, you know there's
  • 45:11we have choices were fortunate
  • 45:13to have several choices.
  • 45:14Would either of the doctor
  • 45:16bees like to comment
  • 45:18on the choices?
  • 45:19We can compare our notes openly?
  • 45:21You know, I think someone
  • 45:23from the CDC said this best.
  • 45:25I think a while back the best vaccine
  • 45:28is the vaccine that's available to you.
  • 45:31We have seen I will report to you
  • 45:33since the paws of the J&J vaccine
  • 45:36because of the blood clotting issues
  • 45:38the state has stopped receiving
  • 45:40J&J vaccine simply because.
  • 45:42We're all washing it.
  • 45:43We have many thousands of doses of J&J
  • 45:46that patients have just not gotten.
  • 45:48We're happy to give it,
  • 45:50but because when we open up our
  • 45:52mass vaccination sites in the
  • 45:54J&J is the vaccine of the day.
  • 45:56We just don't see people show up.
  • 46:00I think that if I was given a
  • 46:03choice between J&J and nothing,
  • 46:06I would absolutely take J&J.
  • 46:08The risk is about one in a million of
  • 46:11this blood clotting event that happens
  • 46:14between 6 and 14 days after the vaccine,
  • 46:18and it happens almost exclusively
  • 46:21in women of childbearing age.
  • 46:23There is there is a safety
  • 46:26issue that certainly with J&J,
  • 46:28but it is something that you can
  • 46:31that's knowable and monitored
  • 46:32month you can monitor for with
  • 46:35regard to Moderna and Pfizer.
  • 46:37They are essentially the same vaccine.
  • 46:39They use the same sequence there,
  • 46:42slightly differently packaged,
  • 46:43but the way they they operate
  • 46:46in your body is the same.
  • 46:48I would consider them exactly the
  • 46:51same and all of them are excellent.
  • 46:54Just absolutely outstanding at
  • 46:56preventing severe disease or death.
  • 47:00Kevin, if you want to add anything to that.
  • 47:03You know? I
  • 47:06have very little to add to that I.
  • 47:10I would underscore the
  • 47:12point that that the real.
  • 47:15The real rub is getting the vaccination.
  • 47:17That's where we're all going to get value.
  • 47:22And I will say that there
  • 47:25is softbot emerging.
  • 47:27Signs in cancer patients.
  • 47:30The two vaccines.
  • 47:32May have some.
  • 47:35Negligible incremental immunogenic
  • 47:36benefit over a single dose vaccine,
  • 47:39which would obviously be the J&J.
  • 47:44It is hard for us to know if that
  • 47:47is clinically significant and I
  • 47:49want to be very careful about how
  • 47:51I frame that to this audience,
  • 47:53but I will share
  • 47:55that that's that is.
  • 47:57Something that is emerging in our circles.
  • 48:02Thank you Doctor Billingslea Dutch
  • 48:03so far in your team. Back to you.
  • 48:05I think there's a lot of interest
  • 48:08on the on the chat on hey listen,
  • 48:10can the fair patients families get
  • 48:12the treatments or do you have to
  • 48:14be patient to get this treatment?
  • 48:17Then alongside you know a lot of like
  • 48:20maybe let's advertise your services more.
  • 48:22I didn't know about this,
  • 48:24so I think this this is this forum
  • 48:27is exactly we're raising awareness.
  • 48:29But can patients family
  • 48:31members get these treatments also?
  • 48:35I'm speaking to massage.
  • 48:36The massage is just for the
  • 48:39patience and survivors.
  • 48:40The other programs are open to family
  • 48:43members such as the on line programs,
  • 48:46anybody, family members, staff,
  • 48:48the community can log in and do
  • 48:51the meditation, can do the yoga,
  • 48:53can do that. I cheat.
  • 48:55And the creative arts programs are
  • 48:57also open to everybody there open
  • 49:00to the community there open to
  • 49:02family members and patients as well.
  • 49:05So it's really just the it's
  • 49:08really just the massage.
  • 49:09The hands on work is limited to patients.
  • 49:12There's no charge table massages.
  • 49:14You can come in for three of those,
  • 49:17and the implications get the
  • 49:19treatments while they're there
  • 49:21at the hospital as needed.
  • 49:24Thank you, Michelle.
  • 49:25You answered one of the questions
  • 49:27on are these massages free and
  • 49:29then the other question is,
  • 49:31are the other integrative
  • 49:32medicine services billable
  • 49:33requiring insurance optimization?
  • 49:36Not not as of right now. So we're
  • 49:41seeing we're seeing everybody.
  • 49:43And I think you're also seeing for your
  • 49:46value for your services a lot from the
  • 49:48caregivers asking for these services.
  • 49:50So I think this is really exactly
  • 49:52the reason for this format.
  • 49:53So we hear from our patients
  • 49:55and their families as they
  • 49:56go through this. So we, you know,
  • 49:59again, your family is part of that
  • 50:00garden and and so we recognize that
  • 50:03that treating your family and involving
  • 50:04your family in your care is is
  • 50:07paramount to making you feel better.
  • 50:08So the video archive is absolutely
  • 50:10accessible and available to them,
  • 50:12and a number of other services
  • 50:13are absolutely available to them.
  • 50:15And if we can support them in
  • 50:17any way, we will.
  • 50:20May I go ahead and do something here, yes.
  • 50:26The yoga classes are available both
  • 50:28to patients and their families,
  • 50:30and the beauty part of the zoom classes
  • 50:34is that people don't necessarily have to
  • 50:37participate if they feel unsure about whether
  • 50:41they want to try yoga or their capacity.
  • 50:45If people are brand brand new,
  • 50:47they might like to start with
  • 50:50restorative yoga because that's
  • 50:51done primarily on the floor.
  • 50:53Though sometimes we do do some standing
  • 50:56stretches just to get some of the kinks out.
  • 50:59But the other part is everything is.
  • 51:02I have a background in trauma sensitive yoga,
  • 51:05so the language in trauma sensitive
  • 51:08yoga is very different from what I
  • 51:11would call regular yoga classes,
  • 51:12which is more directional.
  • 51:14So everything is done by invitation.
  • 51:17It's all choice based.
  • 51:18I always ask at the beginning
  • 51:20of class you know,
  • 51:21is there something special
  • 51:22you would like to do?
  • 51:23An area of your body that
  • 51:26you would like to work with?
  • 51:29Knowing that you know many all of my
  • 51:31students have different health conditions,
  • 51:34so some people can do some things
  • 51:37other people can't do other things.
  • 51:40So I try to create an environment where
  • 51:43people feel comfortable making the choice.
  • 51:46Maybe to do something differently
  • 51:48or even not to participate.
  • 51:51That's totally fine.
  • 51:53So,
  • 51:53and I really hope that people will sample
  • 51:57yoga because it has so many benefits
  • 52:01for stress reduction, relaxation,
  • 52:04overall sense of well being just.
  • 52:07And also we have managed to
  • 52:10create over 14 months of very,
  • 52:13very robust community of yogis.
  • 52:17Sometimes their pets.
  • 52:20To come to class so there is a
  • 52:23sense of camaraderie and you know,
  • 52:26people talk about other things
  • 52:28you know other than cancer.
  • 52:29And I like to create that kind
  • 52:32of environment where people have
  • 52:34something that is nourishing to them
  • 52:37and supportive and and just fun.
  • 52:39So please come,
  • 52:40I think you will be getting
  • 52:43the it'll be busy tomorrow. I can.
  • 52:46I can see that from all the services.
  • 52:49I think there's an ask
  • 52:51for services in Trumbull.
  • 52:53Do are these services available
  • 52:54at Trumbull site folks?
  • 52:56Yes, being a lot of head nodding,
  • 52:58that's wonderful.
  • 53:01Go ahead, Michelle
  • 53:02on the Saint Rayfield campus
  • 53:04on York Street campus.
  • 53:06Tremble and we had to take a pause on
  • 53:09some of the care centers due to covid,
  • 53:12but that should be starting
  • 53:14up. Hopefully at some point
  • 53:15in time down the road.
  • 53:17Perfect, let me pivot to a perhaps
  • 53:19some more questions around vaccination.
  • 53:22A question here.
  • 53:23If someone's fully vaccinated and it
  • 53:25says previously infected with SARS Co. V2.
  • 53:27So I think it sounds like they had both.
  • 53:31Covid and they are vaccinated,
  • 53:33can they be reinfected?
  • 53:38I see Doctor Balls like
  • 53:40maybe reading ready to
  • 53:42answer that question. Go ahead Tom.
  • 53:45So there have been sporadic reports of
  • 53:48people who have had vaccine breakthrough,
  • 53:51even among people who have had
  • 53:54both covid and the vaccine.
  • 53:57But what's important to note is that
  • 54:00those people are very well protected
  • 54:03against severe disease and death, so.
  • 54:07It's possible.
  • 54:09There is some scientific evidence
  • 54:11to suggest that they will be less
  • 54:14likely to infect other people 'cause
  • 54:17the duration of their disease is
  • 54:19less than the amount of virus that
  • 54:21they shed through their noses.
  • 54:23Somewhat less,
  • 54:24but most importantly for that individual,
  • 54:26the vaccine does confer
  • 54:28additional protection,
  • 54:29and even if there's breakthrough,
  • 54:31they are much more likely to
  • 54:33avoid hospitalization or die.
  • 54:37Thank you and doctor B.
  • 54:38There are lots of quite billingsley.
  • 54:40There are a lot of questions on
  • 54:42timing and efficacy and I think
  • 54:44there are probably 2 details and but
  • 54:46broadly speaking there is a question
  • 54:49on should you wait four months?
  • 54:51Where is my immune system strong enough?
  • 54:53Again, for most people it's fine,
  • 54:55but obviously they should talk
  • 54:56to their doctor.
  • 54:57Is that your recommendation to their team?
  • 55:00That's exactly right,
  • 55:02and this is where it is. It really is it.
  • 55:09Individual by individual.
  • 55:11Some of these lymphocyte depleting
  • 55:14therapies are the backbone of
  • 55:16treating hematologic malignancies.
  • 55:18They are the treatment people need
  • 55:21for for cure Disease Control,
  • 55:24but there is a period of time.
  • 55:28During which we need to wait for the
  • 55:31immune system to recover and that is
  • 55:34going to be a somewhat variable period.
  • 55:36Three months is often something
  • 55:38that we hear about,
  • 55:40but it again it is going to
  • 55:42be quite person specific,
  • 55:44so conversation with your care team.
  • 55:47Thank you Doctor Billingsley
  • 55:48and I know it's almost the top
  • 55:51of the hour and there's some
  • 55:52questions I probably won't get to,
  • 55:54but I think this is important to
  • 55:56perhaps talk to the audience today.
  • 55:58What is a typical care team you know?
  • 56:00Can you tell me doctors, nurses?
  • 56:02What are their roles?
  • 56:03Maybe Doctor Billings would be
  • 56:05helpful to talk a little bit
  • 56:07about the care team at Smilow.
  • 56:09You know, I would be happy
  • 56:11to do that, and I think that.
  • 56:15To the point of your introductory
  • 56:18comments relating to the excellence and
  • 56:21the dedication of our nursing teams.
  • 56:24Most of our care teams consist of a group of.
  • 56:29Medical specialists,
  • 56:30including both physicians as well
  • 56:33as advanced practice providers who
  • 56:36can be either physicians assistants
  • 56:39or advanced practice nurses and
  • 56:42those those individuals form.
  • 56:44The primary clinical teams,
  • 56:46but they work hand in hand with our partners
  • 56:51in nursing to problem solve problems.
  • 56:55Answer questions.
  • 56:56Kind of arrange the continuity
  • 56:59of care and and.
  • 57:01Cover those gaps that can occur
  • 57:04in as patients and families
  • 57:06transition through cancer treatment.
  • 57:08In addition to care teams.
  • 57:13In addition to physicians, nurses,
  • 57:15and advanced practice providers,
  • 57:17there are an entire range of of of
  • 57:21professionals who also add significant
  • 57:23value and improve the patient experience.
  • 57:26That includes people like our
  • 57:29teams in nutrition and dietetics.
  • 57:31Are folks in physical therapy and
  • 57:34occupational therapy who support
  • 57:37the care of our patients both in the
  • 57:40outpatient and inpatient spaces.
  • 57:42Our social workers and our mental
  • 57:45health providers and of course,
  • 57:48the group on this call are
  • 57:51integrative medicine services.
  • 57:53So I think that the term team is quite
  • 57:57broad and there will be different
  • 57:59members of the team in play in
  • 58:02front and center depending on where
  • 58:05people are in their cancer journey.
  • 58:08But the real.
  • 58:12Healing comes from all of us
  • 58:14coming together with patients
  • 58:15and families at the center.
  • 58:18Thank you doctor Billingslea.
  • 58:19I know it's it's almost the top of the hour.
  • 58:23I want to thank all the panelists
  • 58:26for sharing information as I
  • 58:28started and said in the beginning
  • 58:30that we hope we can keep these as
  • 58:33frequent ways of getting together.
  • 58:34So if you have other ideas for future,
  • 58:37patient and family form topics,
  • 58:39please email your questions to cancers.
  • 58:41Answers at Yale Dot E D2 Edu.
  • 58:44You can also follow us up on Facebook,
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  • 58:48All the channels and of course for the many
  • 58:51many questions on integrative medicine,
  • 58:52I hope you will log on in seed
  • 58:55all the offerings there.
  • 58:56Stay on if you have time and I apologize
  • 58:59if I didn't get to all of your questions.
  • 59:01I hope we will continue to answer
  • 59:03this and I hope you continue to
  • 59:05come back and connect with us
  • 59:07and share your feedback with us.
  • 59:09As I mentioned,
  • 59:10there's a lovely video by the
  • 59:12Integrative Medicine Service.
  • 59:16I had felt a small
  • 59:18lump in my right breast and ended up
  • 59:20finding out that I was being diagnosed
  • 59:22with breast cancer was a stage three
  • 59:24pretty aggressive breast cancer
  • 59:26and the year after I retired I went
  • 59:28for a test and a doctor said I we
  • 59:31see something on your long weekend.
  • 59:33It looks like ground glass.
  • 59:35I was diagnosed as stage one at the time.
  • 59:37It was drama.
  • 59:40When you get that diagnosis,
  • 59:42you really hit right between the eyes.
  • 59:44It's very difficult at that time.
  • 59:46I had two girls,
  • 59:47so freshman in a senior in high
  • 59:49school and just kind of the unknown.
  • 59:51What comes next and where am I getting
  • 59:54the help and what are my options?
  • 01:00:11Here at Smilow we have cutting edge
  • 01:00:14disease focused treatments that patients
  • 01:00:16come to get cures for their cancer.
  • 01:00:19The Integrative Medicine program focuses
  • 01:00:21on the human side of the patient.
  • 01:00:23What I see with my patients who
  • 01:00:26use integrative medicine services.
  • 01:00:28Is a sense of being able to reflect
  • 01:00:30to be able to express themselves
  • 01:00:32or be able to get physical relief
  • 01:00:34from the services that are provided?
  • 01:00:36One of the
  • 01:00:37best ways to describe integrative medicine,
  • 01:00:39especially in terms of cancer care,
  • 01:00:41is if the cancer is a weed.
  • 01:00:43Your oncologist is phenomenal
  • 01:00:45at dealing with that read.
  • 01:00:46They can focus on it.
  • 01:00:48It's really our job to focus
  • 01:00:50on the rest of the garden.
  • 01:00:52Build the Flowers, make sure that the soil
  • 01:00:54is inhospitable to the weeds anymore.
  • 01:00:56I went through chemo and the surgery.
  • 01:00:58And I went home and I languished for
  • 01:01:01about 6 years just sitting around home,
  • 01:01:04feeling whatever.
  • 01:01:04Sorry for myself or whatever.
  • 01:01:06And then I met the
  • 01:01:08data Brewer, one of the highlights
  • 01:01:10of being an integrative medicine
  • 01:01:12practitioner is that I get to go upstairs,
  • 01:01:15engage with patients that wouldn't
  • 01:01:16normally choose integrative medicine,
  • 01:01:18because maybe they are unsure of what
  • 01:01:20we offer or they haven't heard of it.
  • 01:01:23We do yoga classes.
  • 01:01:24We have Tai chi Qigong.
  • 01:01:26We have meditation classes,
  • 01:01:27Zumba classes. We do huge,
  • 01:01:29creative expression collaborative projects,
  • 01:01:31an individual.
  • 01:01:31Projects we have massage.
  • 01:01:33We have Reiki and when I say
  • 01:01:35there's something for everyone,
  • 01:01:36there really is because at the
  • 01:01:38very very least there's breathing
  • 01:01:40and there's breathing exercises
  • 01:01:41and there's just ways to help
  • 01:01:43alleviate stress and feel better.
  • 01:01:45Many of these services are
  • 01:01:47offered online or through zoom or
  • 01:01:49through phone based treatments.
  • 01:01:50My patients love the fact that
  • 01:01:52they have all these different
  • 01:01:53services to choose from that's
  • 01:01:55provided by the integrative
  • 01:01:57team. When I met Dana she indicated the
  • 01:02:00Smiler wanted to make 1000 white birds.
  • 01:02:02As a as a project and if I'd like
  • 01:02:04to participate, learn how to make
  • 01:02:06that like jumped at the opportunity.
  • 01:02:08There was a doctor from
  • 01:02:10the Malaysia for as a boy.
  • 01:02:11He bowfishing as he took the thousand
  • 01:02:13birds and move them into a fishing
  • 01:02:15net and it was displayed in the
  • 01:02:17Smiler lobby for the longest time
  • 01:02:19and then they took it down and cut
  • 01:02:21the birds out and gave those birds
  • 01:02:23to cancer patients and that now that
  • 01:02:25I think about it that was really the
  • 01:02:27emphasis for me wanting to do it.
  • 01:02:29It's kind of like set planted the
  • 01:02:31seed sometimes it's just simply
  • 01:02:33about experiencing joy again.
  • 01:02:34Because they've become so used
  • 01:02:36to this pattern of chemotherapy,
  • 01:02:37feeling ill, feeling sick.
  • 01:02:39But if you can give them these
  • 01:02:41Nuggets of hapiness then you can
  • 01:02:43really transform their journey in
  • 01:02:45who they are and who they become.
  • 01:02:47And so everybody is always seeking
  • 01:02:48to be happy.
  • 01:02:49Once you get the weight of cancer
  • 01:02:52on your back,
  • 01:02:53it's so much more challenging to go
  • 01:02:55into that place, but that's you know,
  • 01:02:57that's the strength of integrative medicine.
  • 01:02:59If we give the patients those
  • 01:03:01tools to get back into that place,
  • 01:03:03the support really.
  • 01:03:04Raised me up,
  • 01:03:05it gave me so much strength to
  • 01:03:07clearly battle both for physical
  • 01:03:09pain but just my emotional well
  • 01:03:11being as much as I wasn't a yoga
  • 01:03:14person and maybe still am not.
  • 01:03:16I looked forward to going there.
  • 01:03:18I look forward to the conversations
  • 01:03:20that were held.
  • 01:03:20I looked forward to the praise
  • 01:03:22that was given for small little
  • 01:03:24gains from week to week.
  • 01:03:26I just looked forward to the comfort.
  • 01:03:28Really that a lot of the programs provided
  • 01:03:31me. Integrative Medicine is another
  • 01:03:33layer of support for patients
  • 01:03:34going through treatment and beyond.
  • 01:03:36To help them achieve that hope and optimism
  • 01:03:38and that connected feeling that they need
  • 01:03:41when I walk into the room,
  • 01:03:43I'll say hello, my name is Dessie.
  • 01:03:45I'm volunteer here another
  • 01:03:4713 year cancer survivor.
  • 01:03:49During my time here,
  • 01:03:51I learned how to make origami birds
  • 01:03:53and today I make them for cancer
  • 01:03:55patients and other nice people.
  • 01:03:57Will you accept this for me?
  • 01:03:59I couldn't give away fast enough because
  • 01:04:01I would get this shot of dopamine
  • 01:04:03in my brain and I walked out of the
  • 01:04:06hospital like 6 inches off the ground.
  • 01:04:08I think I gave 2000 birds
  • 01:04:10away in 2818 and 19.
  • 01:04:12I'm reminded daily that
  • 01:04:13I'm a cancer survivor,
  • 01:04:14but I find that I am incredibly
  • 01:04:16resilient and and I believe that I
  • 01:04:19am due to the strength that I gained.
  • 01:04:21From those people that I
  • 01:04:23met along the journey,
  • 01:04:24I was fortunate enough to have a great
  • 01:04:27support system already in place with
  • 01:04:29my family and friends in my community.
  • 01:04:31But I think I gained more strength
  • 01:04:34as well from the doctors and
  • 01:04:36nurses and the staff in the
  • 01:04:37Integrative Medicine Department
  • 01:04:38and just the people that I've met
  • 01:04:41through becoming involved with
  • 01:04:42the looking forward fashion show.
  • 01:04:44It continues to show me the importance
  • 01:04:46of the program and in giving back
  • 01:04:48every dollar that's donated ends
  • 01:04:50up affecting countless patients.
  • 01:04:52Providers and family members that
  • 01:04:53we can't even imagine we're growing
  • 01:04:55and developing program and we need support.
  • 01:04:57We need help to create that.
  • 01:04:59We really do rely on the support of
  • 01:05:02people to help us grow and help us
  • 01:05:04thrive. He started with
  • 01:05:06the integrated services,
  • 01:05:07you know he just changed like that.
  • 01:05:09He was the old Desi. You know,
  • 01:05:11very positive and very often without
  • 01:05:13the creative expressions program.
  • 01:05:14I think he would not have
  • 01:05:16been the man he is today.
  • 01:05:18I really don't.
  • 01:05:19I think he would have went into a deep
  • 01:05:22depression but it was a godsend. Now
  • 01:05:24what good is treating them on physical level?
  • 01:05:27If you leave the emotional
  • 01:05:28and spiritual level untouched,
  • 01:05:30this is this touches that this gives
  • 01:05:32us a chance to to heal completely.