Janeway Society Welcome and Orientation

May 26, 2021

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00:00Everyone, I think that when Dean
00:03Brown decided to create a structure
00:06for the support of junior scientists,
00:09both physician scientists and PhD scientists,
00:11she had an idea based on her prior
00:15experience and based on the data from
00:18institutions across the country that
00:21really the most critical phase in people's
00:24development is the phase that you're in
00:27right now and that by leveraging resources.
00:31For your cohort, we're going to be able
00:33to advance science institutionally,
00:35and I think that that's a that's
00:37a very true statement,
00:39and what you see today,
00:41what will present to you today is the
00:44framework for a beginning of a much larger
00:47structure for the support of science,
00:49an collaborative science that I
00:51think that you'll see developed,
00:52and so we wanted to introduce you to,
00:55to to what we plan to do,
00:58and it hope at some point
01:00also recognize that.
01:01Fact that you as a cohort are
01:03going to be rising up together.
01:06It will be providing each other with
01:08a significant amount of support and
01:11potentially collaboration moving forward,
01:12and I think that that really
01:14is one of the main utilities of
01:17the Janeway society overall,
01:19so we'll go to our next slide.
01:26So the purpose of the Office of
01:28Physician Scientists and Scientists
01:29Development is to really try to address
01:32the practical challenges that people
01:34encounter at different career stages,
01:36and I think you all are at
01:38one stage of development.
01:40But we recognize that there are distinct
01:42challenges that people experience in
01:44midcareer and later in their career,
01:46all of which we hope to ultimately
01:48be able to address.
01:50We also want to create community.
01:52I think that the scientific enterprise is 1.
01:55Where mentor ship of near peers and
01:58Mentor ship that you received from
02:00peers or five 1015 and 20 years
02:03ahead of you really is part of the
02:06engine that drives us forward.
02:07And so as we create structures for
02:10individuals at different stages
02:12of development,
02:13things very important for us to reach
02:15back to those that come before us,
02:18including graduate students and
02:19MD PhD students and individuals
02:21who are just beginning physician
02:23scientist training pathways and so.
02:26We really want to have multi phasic,
02:28multi level mentor ship that
02:29spans all phase training.
02:31We want to make sure that people have
02:33the time that they need to do the
02:36research that they propose to do.
02:38We want to ensure that there's adequate
02:40research support and we really hope
02:42that by bringing people together we
02:44might be able to foster collaborations
02:46that will ultimately enable Yale to
02:48be a preeminent institution not only
02:50for training scientists but also
02:52for the science that we produce.
02:54Next slide.
03:08OK, so the leadership of the office and and
03:11like many offices you know we we nucleates.
03:14And then we grow and so Dean Brown
03:16charged me with developing the office
03:18and really the first thing we needed
03:21to do was think about the mission of
03:24the office and how we might achieve it.
03:26And so I was lucky to recruit Nick
03:29from my CCI because one of the
03:32things that we really hope to do.
03:34As you move forward,
03:36be very data driven about the
03:38initiatives that we enact and
03:40look at what the efficacy is.
03:43We also joined by Niyati who
03:45is the director of Scientists,
03:47Diversity and Inclusion really
03:49seeks to ensure equity of access to
03:52resources for individuals from urj
03:55groups were joined by Jean Shapiro
03:57who will help us as the director
04:00of Grant writing and Evaluation.
04:02Many of you took his grant writing course.
04:05In your initial applications
04:07for Group Development awards,
04:09it's also offered for for our level
04:12awards for expanding that course
04:14to make it more accessible for
04:17individuals will also talk about
04:19a study section program that gene
04:22and I are going to Co run and we're
04:25also currently recruiting a senior
04:27scientist to be a director of PhD
04:30scientists development really,
04:32to specifically highlight and identify
04:34areas that we can be supporting.
04:37PhD scientist development as well next time.
04:49So generally society itself,
04:51I think you guys all saw the
04:54announcement and even asked to join it
04:57and we're very happy that you're here,
05:00but we really want to create
05:02a cohort of developing.
05:04Scientists will have special access
05:06to infrastructure and career
05:07development resources that should
05:09hopefully help to accelerate the
05:11transition to independence and
05:13so eligibility is established,
05:14including faculty appointments
05:16and protected time.
05:17Being a Pi on very specific types
05:20of Group development awards.
05:22But this is specifically for people
05:23who haven't yet made the R1 transition.
05:26I know many of you are on the cusp of that.
05:29When you achieve a narrow one,
05:31we're not going to ask you to leave,
05:33we actually want you to stay as long
05:35as you find that Janeway society
05:37continues to provide benefit for you,
05:39and we hope that many of you who
05:41make the R1 transition will also
05:43be people who will be contributing
05:45back in Group in Group discussions
05:47and in providing leadership for
05:49the next cohort of individuals
05:51who joined Janeway in the future.
05:53But we will ask that as you remain
05:55in Janeway that your chairs and
05:57section chiefs continue to ensure
05:59that you have protected time.
06:01That's adequate to do the research
06:03that you propose to do next time.
06:07So just to look at what
06:10the membership looks like,
06:11we're evenly split between physician
06:13scientists and PhD scientists.
06:14If you look my doctoral degree.
06:18So we have a 5050 break between
06:21MD's and MD PHD's about we have a
06:24large cohort of PhD scientists.
06:27The mechanisms that individuals are
06:29supported by run the gamut of the Kays,
06:32VA Career Development Awards.
06:34Why CCI Scholar Awards K 90 Nines
06:37and those who've transitioned RO the
06:40department o'll representation is largely
06:42matched to the size of department's,
06:45and you can see that we have
06:48significant representation from.
06:50Psychiatry internal medicine,
06:51Pediatrics as well as broad
06:55representation across really all
06:57of the departments that exist here
06:59at the medical school next time.
07:05So one of the things that we that
07:07we hope to do is bring everyone
07:10together and we're going to do this
07:12in a forum that we're going to
07:14call Jamie society First Fridays,
07:15and so these will generally be
07:17the first Friday of every month
07:19at noon and Cohen Auditorium.
07:21And as we see, COVID restrictions dropped.
07:23We're hoping that we can move
07:25to a hybrid model where we have
07:27those who wish to be in person in
07:29person and those who wish to come
07:31in via zoom coming in via Zoom.
07:33But what we really hope to
07:35do with the First Fridays.
07:37Is provide people with some of
07:39the training that you frequently
07:40get in professional development
07:42courses and so these are.
07:44This is a program in really leadership,
07:47mentorship and management.
07:48And so there are a number of
07:50topics that will be included in
07:52here that includes some of these
07:55questions about how do you achieve
07:57goal setting and accountability
07:58in mentor mentee relationships.
08:00This may be a little bit a little
08:02bit about you and your mentor,
08:05but very soon it's going to become.
08:07About you and your mentees.
08:09A lot of aspects that are going to
08:12come from the School of Business.
08:14You know.
08:15How do we motivate people,
08:17incentives, and motivation?
08:18How do we communicate?
08:20How do we resolve conflict?
08:21How do we make decisions that are
08:24important in our lives that help
08:26us to affect organizational change?
08:28Will talk about diversity,
08:29will talk about bias,
08:31will talk about balance,
08:32will be drawing upon colleagues
08:34from organizational psychology
08:35as well as we move forward.
08:38And we'll also talk about practical things,
08:41including workshops about applying for jobs.
08:43While we all hope that you're going
08:45to stay here at Yelp for a lifetime,
08:48I think it's important to understand
08:51what the rules of the road are
08:53when it comes to thinking about
08:56looking for for initial jobs.
08:57Understanding faculty ranks,
08:59tracks and promotions,
09:00and thinking about transitioning
09:01to our own funding next time.
09:07Will also have an annual retreat and at
09:09the annual retreat we hope to highlight
09:12the science of those of you who are in
09:15the society in graded sorts of ways so
09:18people who are early in their K words
09:21will have a poster session with faculty.
09:23Discussants for those who are more
09:25senior and are heading towards your R1
09:28will be doing short oral presentations.
09:30The leadership of the medical
09:32school will be there along with the
09:35distinguished guest who is.
09:36Accomplished in the field,
09:38they will provide a keynote address.
09:40It'll be a day long experience at
09:42a local site initially at Yale West
09:45Campus in May of 2022 we will get the
09:48date out to you as soon as possible so
09:51that you can mark it on your calendars.
09:54And we also hope to really develop
09:56a mentorship network,
09:57so we hope to be able to connect
09:59you with mentors who you'd like
10:02to have connections with,
10:03but one of the ways that will be doing that.
10:07Is will be engaging in regular meeting
10:09so I will be meeting with all of the
10:12members of the Janeways society at
10:14least once a year to hear a little bit
10:16about your science to hear about the
10:18things that you need and also to see
10:20how we can leverage resources for you
10:22affectively within the institution.
10:24And so these are informal meetings,
10:25but one of the other things that I've
10:28discovered is from the very first
10:30week that I was in this position.
10:32I was receiving calls and I want to tell
10:34you that the door is open if there is
10:37a problem that you need to have solved.
10:40It's related to your experience here at
10:42the institution as a junior scientist,
10:44you know use us as a resource and
10:47whether that's a question of you
10:49know I don't have to protect it.
10:51Time that's present in my contract
10:53or sometimes coming from department's
10:54asking questions the other way.
10:56We're really here to help solve these
10:58problems as an additional resource.
11:00An additional pathway in addition to
11:02the leadership that you have within
11:04your own department's next time.
11:10So in terms of resources we are
11:12launching the Yale physician
11:13Scientist Development Awards program.
11:15This is a parallel career development
11:17program to the Y CCI awards,
11:19but that really allows
11:21us to focus on patients.
11:22I'm sorry on individuals who are
11:24in the pre K period to provide
11:26additional support so this won't
11:28be relevant necessarily to use
11:30individuals except for one wrinkle
11:32that I'll talk about in a moment.
11:35But it is an important program which I'd
11:38really like to highlight and I'd like you to.
11:41Encourage your colleagues were earlier
11:43in their career development to apply
11:45to this awards program, which does
11:47provide 75% salary support in 2020.
11:49Thousand of research support
11:50per year for two years.
11:52That said,
11:53individual K Awardee's are not
11:55eligible for salary support
11:56that can apply for up to $20,000
11:58in research support each year.
12:00The competition is closed for this year,
12:02but in future years many of you
12:05would be eligible to apply for an
12:08additional 20,000 of research support.
12:11Next slide.
12:13So I think one of the most exciting
12:16resources that we're going to be
12:18launching is a grants library,
12:19and so our goal is to ultimately
12:21provide a resource across funding
12:23mechanisms that includes things like FKS,
12:25TS Ours and others to increase the
12:27success rate of Yale applicants.
12:29And I think that you know,
12:31we recognize that every time
12:32you go to write a grant,
12:34the best way to write it is to get
12:36a few others from other people who
12:39have attacked the same mechanism,
12:41because you can learn a lot about how to.
12:44Structure your aims how to structure
12:46your plan and how to in some cases
12:48create a responsive revision.
12:50If you're going in for an A1 application,
12:53and so we're going to launch the
12:55Grants Library on June 1st and we
12:57actually are going to ask you members
12:59of the Janeway Society to help us
13:02to develop the grants library.
13:04So we're going to have a three month
13:06period where we collect grants and
13:09what we're really relying on you
13:11to do is to provide us with your
13:13career development awards and so.
13:15We are going to do a quick search via
13:18NIH reporter and other mechanisms to
13:20identify those of you who've received
13:23grants will be sending you a survey
13:26asking you to provide us with authorization.
13:28So we're going to make this
13:31very low impact on you.
13:33Authorization to get a copy
13:35of your grant from OSR.
13:36We will redact sensitive information
13:38such as salary, for example,
13:40from it.
13:41Once we've redacted that grant,
13:43we will provide it back to you for
13:46final approval for submission.
13:48Within within the grants database.
13:50So this is all going to be housed in Red Cap.
13:55We will allow you to embargo your
13:57grants or if you feel that the
13:59science is presented in your grant
14:01is very sensitive and yet you
14:02agree with the idea that you know.
14:04Sharing your grant will help
14:06future generations.
14:06We can allow you to embargo it
14:09for the period that you state.
14:12And then after the initial three
14:14months is allowed us to accrue grants.
14:16We will allow individuals to apply
14:18to the library to access grants,
14:20and so we are at the same time as
14:23we're asking all of you to deposit.
14:26Your case will be looking at individuals
14:28have made cater our transition,
14:30asking them to deposit their ours
14:32and getting a large cohort of
14:34ours that are also within the
14:36database within the library.
14:38So Janeway membership will have
14:40first access to the Grants library.
14:42Will have a simple application process
14:44that asks for people to identify
14:47those individuals who are either
14:48seeking a first K award or seeking
14:51a first R1 award for initial access.
14:53When you access the grants library,
14:55it will be open.
14:56You'll be able to search
14:57by funding mechanism.
14:59You'll be able to search by whether
15:01this is in a zero or a one application,
15:04but one of the things that
15:06we will ask you
15:08to do is to sign a code of conduct because
15:11will be tracking your access to grants.
15:14You know, I don't think that we're
15:16going to be facing situations where
15:18we're going to have individuals who
15:21are claiming that plagiarism is a curd,
15:23but we have the capacity to
15:25look for that in the future,
15:27and so this is really an honor based system.
15:31We're also going to ask those
15:33of you who access the system to
15:35tell us what your experiences,
15:37how was it to navigate it?
15:39How is it to use it, and ultimately,
15:42whether it contributed to outcomes we have.
15:45A1 question, which I'd be happy to field
15:47right now if you want to go ahead and ask it.
15:51Hi, I'm Kristen one you I'd like
15:53to know if we'll be able to
15:56search for grants based on topic.
15:58Nick, can you help fill that in?
16:00I think we can.
16:02Yeah, so we'll have the titles in
16:04there but will also put in abstracts
16:06from an age reporter as long as as
16:08well as sort of research terms so
16:09you'll be able to search by that.
16:13So there are.
16:14There's a keyword library that will
16:15be used so that we can have people
16:18search by keyword and that exists
16:19within within Redcap right now and
16:21we'll do our best to try to attach
16:24those and one of the things that
16:26we can do when we provide you with
16:28your grant for approval is we can
16:30allow you to select the relevant
16:33keywords for searching.
16:34We have additional questions,
16:36uh, Louisa says,
16:37you're going to store foundation
16:39grants as well.
16:40Yes, by all means we intend to
16:43include foundation grants as well,
16:44including the Ms Doors,
16:46Duke and others.
16:47And then next question from Ambrose can be
16:50searched by institute or study section.
16:52Nick, we can do that as well.
16:55Yeah, you can.
16:56Search by institute.
16:57We hadn't planned on
16:58searching by study section,
17:00but that's something we could
17:02look at institute for sure, yeah?
17:04We don't have study section
17:06built into it currently.
17:08But it, along with the grant,
17:10will also be the pink sheets,
17:12and so you'll be able to look at both the
17:14grant and the comments on the other side,
17:17and I think that that's an important thing.
17:19And for grants that have gone
17:21through revision,
17:21you'll be able to look at the A zero,
17:24the comments,
17:25and the RE submission,
17:26which will include the response as well
17:28as the as well as the value as well as
17:31a summary statement on the other side.
17:33So I think this is going to be
17:35immensely useful to all of you as
17:38your Azure as you're moving forward.
17:40Any other questions about the Grants library?
17:44We have a question going back to Janeway,
17:47so the 20,000 grand opportunity
17:48this is correct.
17:50It is currently available to
17:52physician scientists and one of
17:54the things that I am seeking to
17:56do is to create equity.
17:58You may recognize that this
17:59is an office that initially
18:01was named the Office of Physician
18:03Scientists Development and as we assessed
18:06the landscape of the institution,
18:08we realized that this needed to
18:10be an office that was open to all.
18:13To all scientists, including PhD scientists.
18:18I will say that the why CCI program does have
18:22a $20,000 opportunity which is in parallel,
18:25which is open to those who have pH
18:29D as well as MD as well as MD PhD.
18:34Scientists but one of the things that
18:36we seek to do in our PSD is ensure that
18:40there's equity of access to all of the
18:43resources that we're talking about here,
18:46and so I assume that that is the
18:49that is the gist of the question
18:52that you're raising here,
18:53and so we see comments here
18:56and also seek equity.
18:59Other questions. Because we move on
19:02to some other important resources.
19:08Are clinicians with PhD
19:10only eligible for the full?
19:13Award so I. Dan, let me.
19:20Let me talk with you offline
19:23about that so that we can so that
19:27we can address that completely,
19:31and so I can understand the situation as you.
19:36As you describe it,
19:37Vanessa asked the question,
19:38can we continue to participate
19:40in the Jane Lee Society if we
19:42move to a new institution where
19:43we transition to independence?
19:45This is a question that you know
19:47we haven't actually conceived of
19:48because we're expecting that every
19:50single one of you is going to stay
19:52here for the rest of your life.
19:55You know,
19:56I think that our intention is
19:58to make this an open platform,
20:00but that ultimately it's going
20:02to be something that's relatively
20:04relatively low specific,
20:06and so you know you'll probably
20:08stop receiving notifications
20:09when you're available.
20:10Email closes, but you know, I don't see us.
20:15Ever taking this away from anyone?
20:23Alright, next slide please.
20:28Alright, so the grant writing course many
20:30of you have created in this you know,
20:33I think that the goal has always been
20:35to increase the rate of successful
20:38K applications and to enable us to
20:40achieve kata R transitions and so our
20:43initial approach has been to partner
20:45with YCCIIMP program to offer the script
20:47writing course both in the fall semester
20:49as well as in the spring semester.
20:52As you know, the course of sections for
20:55crew development and our level applications.
20:57We seek to have experienced faculty mentors.
21:01Lead the sections of this an overall,
21:04we've had some really great people
21:06do this over the years.
21:08We will encourage participants to
21:10engage in seminars about strategy about
21:12strategies that are matched to the
21:15mechanism that they are applying for.
21:17The writing is paste over the course
21:19of the semester,
21:20which I think is very helpful.
21:23Faculty reviewers are chosen who
21:24are who are matched to your field.
21:27So at the end there is a study section
21:30that's a part of the grant writing course,
21:33and historically participants have
21:34experienced high success rates.
21:35One of the benefits of being in the
21:38Janeway Society is that the typical $550
21:41registration costs will be covered by OH PSD.
21:43If you choose to participate
21:45in this in the future.
21:47Next time.
21:52We also are going to be piloting a
21:55paste manuscript writing program.
21:57For those of you who are interested
21:59and we are actually very interested
22:01in having individuals who are
22:03interested in writing manage groups
22:05reach out to us and let us know.
22:08So we want to identify our first
22:10cohorts of individuals who'd like to
22:12dissipate and paste management training,
22:14and ultimately, the idea is that we want
22:17to provide a forum for participants to
22:20write manuscripts with faculty guidance,
22:22pure accountability.
22:22An expert review,
22:24and so we'll do our first pilot in the fall.
22:28This will be coordinating with the
22:30Portroe Center for Teaching and Learning
22:32and why some faculty to offer introduced
22:35introductory group sessions on figure
22:37design approaches to outlining in
22:39manuscript composition and submission
22:40and review process separately.
22:425 to 8 writers will be paired to the faculty
22:45mentor over the course of five weeks.
22:48Individuals will be asked to compose
22:51individual sections of manuscripts
22:53and then to conduct peer review.
22:56And that is, you know,
22:58submitting your completed draft
22:59to other people who are going
23:01through the course with you,
23:03and then the faculty section leader will
23:06also participate in reviewing that as well.
23:09At the end,
23:10we will ask you to identify individuals
23:13who you feel would be the best
23:15suited to review your manuscript and
23:17we will do our best to ensure that
23:20they actually do it by incentivizing
23:23them and ultimately will provide
23:25written commentary back to you.
23:27And so we're excited to pilot
23:29this and get it going.
23:31We had a question earlier from Patrick
23:34about whether the grant writing
23:36course will be offered over Zoom.
23:38We have offered the course
23:40over Zoom in this semester.
23:42I will ask Jean to consider ways that
23:45we can continue to have a hybrid model,
23:48especially if there are individuals
23:50who wish to do this.
23:52I would actually encourage people who
23:54are interested in the fall section
23:57of the grant writing course too.
23:59Email now, Eugene Shapiro at yale.edu,
24:02to express your interest in
24:04participating and how you'd like
24:07to participate so that we can start
24:10planning for the fall semester.
24:16OK, next line.
24:21The next I think probably very
24:23relevant thing is to create a true
24:26study section and so for those of
24:29you who choose not to go through the
24:33grant writing program but instead
24:35wish to write your grants Dinovo,
24:37we're going to offer a study section,
24:40and so our goal here is to provide
24:42expert review and commentary for
24:45investigators for submitting career
24:47development and project awards.
24:49And so the approach is this.
24:51We're going to begin a pilot in November
24:54of 2021 for the February cycle.
24:56This is going to be limited exclusively
24:58to Janeway society participants.
24:59In this first cycle,
25:00and ultimately we hope to be able to
25:02offer this to all investigators with
25:04the institution in subsequent cycles.
25:06So 10 weeks,
25:07and this is what's challenging about this,
25:09but I think it's actually very
25:11great because it's going to give
25:13people a lot of structure,
25:15so 10 weeks prior to the due date,
25:17we want to draft abstract and specific games,
25:19and the reason we want an abstract
25:22in specific games is now.
25:23Nick,
25:24myself and others are going to
25:25sit down and try to find who will
25:28be the reviewers for your grants
25:298 weeks prior to the due date.
25:31We're going to want your complete
25:33grants now we know that you're
25:35not going to have final budgets.
25:36You don't necessarily need to
25:38have your letters,
25:39we want you to give us everything
25:41you've got and how complete it is is
25:43going to be related to how good of a
25:45review you're ultimately going to get.
25:47We're going to have three
25:49reviewers evaluate the grant,
25:50so you're still going to get
25:52that are 123 sort of flavor.
25:53And one month prior to the due date,
25:56the grants,
25:57the evaluators are going to
25:59actually present your grant added
26:01true study section in exactly the
26:03format of an NIH study section.
26:05We're actually going to have a
26:07videographer record the study section
26:09for you so that when you receive the
26:11comments from the study section,
26:13you're actually going to be able to
26:15look at what a study section looks like.
26:18So you'll have our one present.
26:20Our two supplement and our
26:22three provide brief comments.
26:24Then you'll also hear the commentary
26:26of the assembled individuals.
26:27Who are at the study section?
26:29Because I think that the commentary
26:31of others is study section
26:34is frequently formative.
26:35Reviewers will be compensated
26:37with Amazon gift cards or other
26:39relative swag if desired,
26:41and this video comments will be
26:44provided along with the written,
26:46along with written comments.
26:48Question is will mock study section
26:50reviews be available for the R21 mechanism?
26:53Yes,
26:54we will be providing for all for
26:57all mechanisms in this in this
26:59initial in this initial cycle.
27:04Next time.
27:08So we want to sort of keep people
27:10abreast of what's happening,
27:11and this is a flavor of where we're starting.
27:14I think there's going to be a lot
27:16more that we're going to do overtime,
27:19so our website is in its infancy.
27:21If you click through
27:22medicine.yale.edu/research slash.
27:23Oh PSD, we hope to curate a list
27:25of grant opportunities you want
27:27to link to resources for you.
27:29We want to highlight news stories about you.
27:31We really want to celebrate you
27:33because part of what we're doing
27:35here is we're fund raising for.
27:37The development of junior scientists
27:39across the institution and and trying
27:42to create more support for things
27:44like the $20,000 Supplemental research
27:45Awards for Technician Awards for Gap
27:48funding for a variety of other things.
27:51And, really,
27:51you know when you have a story
27:54about your success,
27:55please send it to us so that we can
27:58connect you with with communications
28:00and we can tell your story will
28:03have a newsletter in a newsletter
28:05which we hope to start soon.
28:08That I will highlight grant opportunities
28:10and the activities of the OPSD
28:13will also include some of these
28:15news stories and so at this point,
28:17I think that we can open to any sort of
28:21more general questions that people may have.
28:24We really intended the remainder of this
28:26to be an opportunity for for conversation,
28:29and this can be a critique of
28:32what's been presented so far.
28:34Aspirational things that you'd
28:36like to see in the future.
28:38Because really this is.
28:40This is your society and we want
28:42to make it useful to all of you.
28:50Hi, this is Carol Adelaide,
28:53just wanted to say that
28:55it's great to see this.
28:57I loved all the components
28:59that were described,
29:00particularly the grant
29:02review and paste writing and
29:04just want to say thanks to.
29:09Organizers and leaders for putting
29:11thought into things that will provide
29:14will provide great support to to to
29:17junior advocate role in their careers.
29:21Well, thank you where it's a.
29:23It's a work in progress,
29:24but I'm hopeful that we'll be
29:25able to do important things.
29:35There's a question about postdocs in K.
29:3799 stage being eligible.
29:39Participate in mock study sections.
29:40Yes, you know, we we.
29:42We don't know what the subscribership
29:44is going to be to this.
29:46We hope to be able to.
29:50Enable everyone who's in
29:51Janeway to have access to the
29:53mock study section, but again,
29:54you know if you know that you're
29:57going to be going in for the February
29:59cycle and you want to participate,
30:01state your needs now.
30:02You can always say that you're
30:05not going for it down the road,
30:07but let us know if you're interested
30:09in being a part of study sections.
30:14I'm also really grateful for this.
30:16This is exciting to see all these
30:18resources and to see ideas cross
30:20pollinating across departments,
30:21ANAN levels of training.
30:23One thing that I've found I've had
30:25to figure out by trial and error,
30:27and I think there's been a
30:29lot of error along the way.
30:31Is knowing how to interact with the business,
30:34office and manage budgets for different kinds
30:36of grants and different sources of funding.
30:38Just as one example,
30:39I think many of us was startup funds have
30:42encountered with surprise that there are.
30:45A large number of taxes on startup funds
30:47that don't apply to external grants,
30:49and if we'd known that we would
30:51have planned differently.
30:52There are also in this supply.
30:54This is applied for those of us who have.
30:56The YCC Junior scholar Grant
30:58from internal sources,
30:59and so our budgets don't cover
31:00the costs that were budgeted,
31:02and I think it would be really helpful
31:04to have some more explicit training
31:06around to the expectations around.
31:08Finances at Yale.
31:09As a junior scholar,
31:11so you know it's actually really
31:13fascinating that you bring that up because
31:15people on the other side say the same thing.
31:18So the folks at OSP and in the
31:20business office is actually want
31:22to be a participant in this,
31:24because they want to help people to
31:26navigate it and to and to reduce conflict.
31:29And I think that one of the challenges
31:31that we have is the infrastructure,
31:34and the bureaucracy is so gigantic here
31:36that it would be helpful if we all sort of.
31:39Sort of sat down,
31:42and so you know.
31:44There are some resources that we will that
31:47we will link to that that that provide this,
31:50but I think that you know it's actually
31:53very much worthwhile for us to.
31:56While this may not be a first
31:58Friday if we could schedule these.
32:01Uh,
32:01discussions to run on a regular
32:04basis probably twice a year,
32:06so that we can capture new folks
32:08as they come in,
32:10but also provide you with the contacts
32:12that you need to be able to make to
32:15make connections on these things.
32:17But,
32:18but you're right,
32:19I think that artfully shifting which
32:21funds are used for which aims is one
32:24of these really important things.
32:29I see a comment about about
32:31about commonality of interests.
32:33Actually, one of the reasons we actually
32:36want to come into one place again,
32:39and to have us and to have small
32:42group settings is for all of you to
32:45meet each other and for us to be able
32:49to share interests and backgrounds.
32:51And so ultimately we hope to highlight
32:54the membership of the Genuine Society on.
32:58The PSD website and will try to put
33:01in enough information so that people
33:04can identify their cohort within
33:07the larger cohort of people who are
33:10rising up in the career development
33:13in the crew development space.
33:17So I see multiple comments here.
33:19Nick and I are going to take all the
33:22comments and think about ways that
33:24we can effectively address them.
33:26We would also welcome ideas that you
33:29guys might have in email or other formats.
33:45When we apply for internal nominations,
33:47we are receiving much.
33:49Feedback when they have been
33:51reviewed by a committee.
33:53Can we improve this mechanism too?
33:55And we are not receiving much
33:57feedback from the committee.
33:59Oh, these are.
34:02I understand, I understand.
34:04I understand that problem and
34:07I recognize that you know,
34:10I think that.
34:15I think that the committee process
34:16can be can be complicated and I
34:18do not have a tremendous amount of
34:20insight about it, but this is where.
34:23You're hearing your specific
34:25stories as I talk with each of you
34:28is going to help me to prioritize
34:30ways that ways that we can do this.
34:34I and and I think that this is an
34:38important point and so you know
34:40Nick and I will need to, I think.
34:43No where the sticking points
34:45have been in which in which grant
34:48mechanisms this is happened with,
34:49so that we can intervene,
34:51and so the more you can tell us
34:53about what your experience has been,
34:55the more we can try to improve it
34:58for future for future applicants.
35:02There was a question about how many
35:04draft grants or draft manuscripts
35:05will include in the mock review,
35:07and is there a lot of demand from us?
35:10You know, I think that.
35:12Something that's inherent to the manuscript
35:14writing and the grant writing programs
35:16is that they are relatively demanding.
35:17They actually ask that you come in.
35:20You commit to doing it,
35:21and that you actually get it done.
35:23And so if you enter into the manuscript
35:26writing program, you know it.
35:27It it, we really will expect you
35:29to try to complete to complete a
35:31penny script over the course of,
35:33and whether it's five weeks or 8 weeks,
35:36we will want it to to go through
35:38the process in that period of time.
35:40And so if you commit to doing
35:42manuscript writing.
35:43We want you to do it.
35:45Same thing is true for for the grant
35:48writing program you know there needs
35:50to be enough of a grant there for
35:52us to be able to achieve successful
35:55review and we will leave it to the
35:57discretion of reviewers if there's
35:59consensus among reviewers that was
36:00provided is inadequate for review,
36:02will provide that feedback back to you,
36:05and so one of the beauties of
36:07participating in these programs
36:09is you're going to have a nearly
36:12completed product.
36:13Oh, if 100 people get their grants,
36:15refute, how can you?
36:16Then you can only comma 10.
36:18How would you choose ten?
36:20Well,
36:20look we're making a commitment
36:21to the Janeway Society.
36:22I hope we have 100 are ones that
36:25cover or grants to come forward.
36:27And if we get 100 I'll find
36:29a way to get 100 done.
36:30You know Will will will will do
36:32our best to accommodate everyone.
36:34That's why we're not opening it to
36:37the entire institution to begin with.
36:39We will,
36:40we will do our best and you know we
36:42all have limitations and I will be
36:44honest with all of you about where we
36:46stand and what we can and cannot do.
36:49But we'll make our best effort
36:50to actually make it happen.
37:02Hi, Keith is asti.
37:03I was wondering about the
37:04Mark Grant review timeline.
37:05So when I write grants I need a lot
37:07of time so I'm just wondering is
37:09there flexibility in how soon we
37:11can get the feedback or things like this?
37:13We actually incorporate that
37:14in our current before we submit
37:16them or 'cause you mentioned
37:17like accomplish structured time.
37:19I'm just wondering is there any
37:20room for flexibility or people may
37:22want some feedback a little earlier.
37:23You know let's have all these
37:25other things are kind of juggling.
37:27I'm just curious about that.
37:29Because of all the moving parts
37:32that go into the study section it.
37:35That particular mechanism is pretty
37:38regimented in terms of the way that
37:41it goes in terms of the deadlines,
37:44I think that you may be asking
37:47another question, which is,
37:49is it possible for us to accommodate making
37:52connections with people for feedback,
37:55and I think that the answer is yes,
37:58so you know if you know that you would
38:02benefit from the input of specific
38:04individuals who are here at the institution.
38:08I think that the office can be flexible in
38:11the way that it provides support to you.
38:13I think we still absolutely want you
38:15to go through the true study section,
38:18'cause I think there's a lot of
38:20value in in doing that.
38:21But if you want to do more pre work
38:24ahead of time and have some support
38:26from us that goes towards you know.
38:29Incentivizing individuals to
38:30provide that to you,
38:32either through the weight of the office
38:36or through some additional sort of.
38:39You know, recognition.
38:40We're happy to be flexible to
38:43meet the needs of individuals.
38:46Thank you.
38:50The question just out of curiosity.
38:52Why are non KE awarding new faculty
38:55not invited to join the society?
38:57It sounds like all these resources
38:59would be incredibly helpful to all
39:01new independent investigators and
39:03even as you're absolutely right,
39:04this would be something that we
39:06have the aspiration up to provide
39:09of providing to all investigators.
39:11But we also.
39:12Are creating in a way an elite society,
39:15so we so putting the fact that
39:17you've joined the Janeway society
39:19on your CV is going to be one of
39:22those early recognitions that build
39:24your package for for promotion
39:26and so we do want Janeway to be
39:29something that people aspire to,
39:30but I think that we can recognize that
39:33Janeway is going to have individuals
39:35are going to reach back to support
39:37others and all of the resources
39:40that we're talking about here we're
39:42piloting with Janeway because.
39:43Honestly,
39:44you are the most important people right
39:47now for us to lunch and to have succeed.
39:50But you know,
39:51we recognize that there's an urgent
39:53need for resources across the
39:55entire spectrum of development,
39:57and it's our hope and intention
39:59to do to a degree use you as the
40:03experiment and then and then implement
40:05more broadly as as time goes on,
40:08we want to ensure that we have high
40:11quality for Members of Janeway now.
40:14And then ultimately,
40:15as we get everything in place,
40:18expands access to others.
40:25The comment about a job talks and and
40:29chalk talks is a very important one.
40:32And and there are a number of departments
40:35that are working on scientific
40:38communication and scientific impact,
40:41and I think that there are some
40:45resources that we can provide around.
40:49Around these one thing that I will
40:53say is if you as an individual are
40:57being invited to participate in
40:59one of these competitive awards,
41:03and you have a specific need,
41:06please reach out to us and tell
41:10us and we'll do what we can to
41:14provide resources surrounding that.
41:17Internal grant reviewers.
41:18Many of us would benefit from
41:20feedback by senior colleagues,
41:21have served on an I study sections with
41:23reviewers be pulled from larger your
41:25community or mainly among Jamie members.
41:27No, we're going to exclusively be
41:29sourcing the for the grant review program.
41:31This is all going to be people who
41:34just made an NIH study sections.
41:36We want to ensure that you're getting
41:38an authentic review so that people act
41:40like they're supposed to act in the
41:42study section itself for the video portion,
41:44as well as provide commentary in
41:46the in the style and with the rigor
41:48that you'd expect to get from.
41:50Any other study section now mind you,
41:53we're going to be having a real mixed
41:55group of grants that are going to be
41:58reviewed here so we won't have this
42:00sort of intensity of focus amongst all
42:03of the studies section participants.
42:05But overall,
42:05I think we will create asmira
42:07facsimilies we can.
42:20Terrific well, I know that the
42:21thing that all of us seek more
42:23than anything else is time.
42:25So if I can give you 15 minutes of
42:27time today, I'll consider it a success.
42:30So I really look forward to
42:32meeting every single one of you.
42:33We're really we're really excited
42:35to have you here with us.
42:37I see one more question,
42:38is a plan to have regular grant
42:40reviews for each regular cycle?
42:42The answer is absolutely yes.
42:43We will do this for every cycle
42:45moving forward from from February,
42:47so look forward to meeting all of you
42:49will have this recording available
42:51for individuals to access it.
42:53So if any of your colleagues
42:55weren't able to come today,
42:56they'll be able to hear it.
42:58Please email with gusto.
42:59Let us know what you need and we'll
43:02do our best to match your needs.
43:04Thanks for joining us.