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Achieving Digital Health Equity: Is it a "One-Size-Fits-All' Approach or Personalized Patient Experience?

July 11, 2023
  • 00:00And I'm going to welcome in our next panel,
  • 00:03Panel 2, which is going to be moderated
  • 00:06by Doctor Elizabeth Krupinski on
  • 00:08achieving digital HealthEquity.
  • 00:10Is it A1 size fits all approach or
  • 00:12personalized patient experience?
  • 00:14And just a brief word about Doctor Krupinski,
  • 00:17who I've known now for several years
  • 00:19and professor and Vice Chair for
  • 00:21Research in the Department of Radiology
  • 00:23and Imaging Sciences at Emory.
  • 00:25She's an experimental psychologist
  • 00:26who has thought a lot about.
  • 00:29Decision making and image perception,
  • 00:32you know, thinking about how
  • 00:33human factors pertain to the,
  • 00:36the activity of the of the provider and
  • 00:40I think is going to lead us in a really
  • 00:42interesting conversation on this topic.
  • 00:44So with that, let me turn it over to
  • 00:46Elizabeth and have you take the floor.
  • 00:48Great. Thank you very much.
  • 00:50That's a great session and.
  • 00:53I think we got a really exciting
  • 00:54one coming up now as well.
  • 00:56As Lee said, this is all about
  • 00:58achieving digital HealthEquity. Now.
  • 01:00You know what's the rationale for this,
  • 01:02this session in this conference?
  • 01:03Well, as was noted,
  • 01:05COVID saw this huge increase in the use
  • 01:09of digital health supporting its utility,
  • 01:12its benefits.
  • 01:13It revealed a lot about what
  • 01:15is feasible and you know,
  • 01:17people were engaged in it and and
  • 01:19doing telemedicine and we really
  • 01:21saw where it can be of help.
  • 01:23The problem is,
  • 01:24although it's appropriate in many,
  • 01:26many specialties,
  • 01:28what COVID did unfortunately was
  • 01:30also unfortunately reveal what the
  • 01:33limitations and gaps are that we still
  • 01:35have to face and one of the biggest
  • 01:38gaps that really became quite evident
  • 01:40and sometimes in surprising ways.
  • 01:43Was that there's significant digital
  • 01:46HealthEquity issues and so this panel
  • 01:49is going to discuss 3 aspects of
  • 01:52issues and solutions to some real
  • 01:55live digital HealthEquity issues
  • 01:58using real case examples and we
  • 02:01brought together 3 awesome people.
  • 02:03And I'm just going to do very
  • 02:05quick introductions and then we'll
  • 02:06get into the presentation.
  • 02:07So our first speaker is going
  • 02:09to be Jorge Rodriguez,
  • 02:10a physician from Harvard University.
  • 02:13He's an instructor there,
  • 02:15clinician investigator interested
  • 02:17in exploring bridging the digital
  • 02:19divide in healthcare.
  • 02:21He's currently funded by the NIH to
  • 02:24study technology equity especially.
  • 02:27Extending telemedicine to Latino
  • 02:29patients with type 2 diabetes.
  • 02:31So he is going to start out giving
  • 02:33us an introduction to what the
  • 02:35domains of HealthEquity are.
  • 02:37You know the term gets thrown around a lot.
  • 02:40What is HealthEquity?
  • 02:41What is digital equity?
  • 02:42And so he's going to really give us the
  • 02:44domains and talk about some specific,
  • 02:46ample examples of what HealthEquity
  • 02:49really is all about.
  • 02:52Then we're going to hear from Priya.
  • 02:54Buthesia,
  • 02:54she is a lawyer from Loyola University
  • 02:57and she is also the vice president
  • 03:00of strategic initiatives at the
  • 03:02American Hospital Association.
  • 03:04And she has basically looked
  • 03:06at years designing,
  • 03:07implementing growing initiatives
  • 03:09that help people basically lead
  • 03:11healthier lives and how do we
  • 03:14integrate technology into all of that
  • 03:16and to address their social needs.
  • 03:18Then finally, we're going to hear
  • 03:19from Tara Sklar, another lawyer
  • 03:21from the University of Arizona,
  • 03:23where she is a professor and director
  • 03:25of Health Law and Policy Program.
  • 03:28She's also the senior advisor in
  • 03:30the Telehealth Law and Policy for
  • 03:32the Arizona Telemedicine Program
  • 03:34and innovations in Healthy Aging.
  • 03:36And she looks at legal and regulatory and
  • 03:39ethical issues that arise from, you know,
  • 03:42adopting technology into aging populations,
  • 03:45health populations, and so on.
  • 03:47So without further ado, I'm gonna
  • 03:49turn it over to Jorge and then each,
  • 03:52the speaker's just gonna hand
  • 03:53it off to the next one.
  • 03:55And then at the end, if we have time,
  • 03:57we're gonna open it up for some discussion.
  • 03:59So it's all yours, Jorge.
  • 04:01Great. Thank you so much.
  • 04:02Thank you everyone for the invitation and
  • 04:04I'm really excited to speak with you all.
  • 04:07Today we can move to the next slide here.
  • 04:10I'm hoping that you know over the next
  • 04:1210 minutes or so as we chat here,
  • 04:13you'll probably take away three things.
  • 04:15One, think about how to
  • 04:17define Digital HealthEquity.
  • 04:18Two, why are we even talking about this now?
  • 04:20And three, hopefully spend most of our
  • 04:22time discussing how do we actually go
  • 04:24about achieving Digital HealthEquity.
  • 04:25You move to the next line.
  • 04:27And when I think about digital HealthEquity,
  • 04:28I like to think about in the context
  • 04:30of everyone having a fair and just
  • 04:32opportunity to engage with and
  • 04:34benefit from a digital health tools.
  • 04:36This is borrowed from a HealthEquity
  • 04:38definition which defines this at the
  • 04:40medical level to say everyone should
  • 04:42have a fair and just opportunity
  • 04:43to benefit from medical care.
  • 04:45In this case,
  • 04:46we're using digital health tools
  • 04:47and when I talk about digital
  • 04:49health tools to the next slide.
  • 04:51I primarily talk about a lot
  • 04:53of patient facing things,
  • 04:54so things like mobile health apps,
  • 04:55patient portals,
  • 04:56remote monitoring,
  • 04:58telehealth texting solutions,
  • 04:59it kind of goes on and on.
  • 05:00But things were we're having a being
  • 05:03discussed in the prior panel that that
  • 05:06relationship with patients and technology
  • 05:08facilitating that that aspect of it.
  • 05:10We can move to the next slide.
  • 05:12And so why are we talking about this now?
  • 05:14We've,
  • 05:14you know,
  • 05:14it's been wonderfully set up in the
  • 05:16prior discussion around the the rise of
  • 05:19telehealth over the past two to three years.
  • 05:21In addition to that,
  • 05:22you know,
  • 05:23we had the,
  • 05:23you know during vaccine deployment
  • 05:25we often relied on online based
  • 05:26scheduling tools and that kind
  • 05:28of brought to the forefront that
  • 05:30certain populations just didn't
  • 05:31have access to the Internet.
  • 05:33And these are often the populations
  • 05:35that were more most significantly
  • 05:37affected by the COVID by COVID-19 and
  • 05:39the third one and perhaps you know,
  • 05:41slightly less.
  • 05:42Let's discuss is the enactment of
  • 05:44the 21st Century Cures Act which
  • 05:46really put into place a law that
  • 05:48empowered patients and and and made
  • 05:50it so that patients had easier access
  • 05:53to their to their healthcare data.
  • 05:55So really encourage patients to now
  • 05:57and you know interact with their
  • 05:58healthcare data and of course that
  • 06:00requires going online and a couple
  • 06:02of the other things that we we'll
  • 06:04get to and the rest of the time we
  • 06:06have together here and so but when
  • 06:08you think about this even before the
  • 06:09pandemic a lot of these challenges
  • 06:11that we talked about in the.
  • 06:12Visual HealthEquity space, we're there.
  • 06:14If you think about high tech act and
  • 06:16the development of patient portals,
  • 06:17for example,
  • 06:18if you look at the early patient
  • 06:20portal literature,
  • 06:20you find a lot of gaps in terms of
  • 06:22who is using and accessing these
  • 06:24tools by marginalized populations.
  • 06:25So it's not surprising that in
  • 06:28our next slide.
  • 06:29We had this come up during this is,
  • 06:32this is data from early on in the
  • 06:34pandemic from our organization
  • 06:35where we saw significant disparities
  • 06:36in the use of video visits
  • 06:38amongst marginalized population.
  • 06:40So we sort of saw this coming
  • 06:41a little bit, but I think,
  • 06:43you know I think this really gives
  • 06:44us an opportunity now that we're
  • 06:45sort of really committing to this
  • 06:47effort to say how can we reimagine this,
  • 06:49how do we go about next slide
  • 06:53achieving digital HealthEquity.
  • 06:55So, so that's, that's what I'm
  • 06:57hoping to spend the rest of the
  • 06:58rest of the time on here today.
  • 07:00And so when I think about Digital
  • 07:01HealthEquity, I primarily think about
  • 07:03it across 5 domains, next slide.
  • 07:06And those domains are technology.
  • 07:07And it's it's just like there's a lot of,
  • 07:09there's a lot of meat here.
  • 07:10So just I'm going to try to hit
  • 07:12on each of them briefly here,
  • 07:13but technology, access, technology,
  • 07:15literacy, implementation policy
  • 07:17and standard of care next slide.
  • 07:20Technology access is the one that
  • 07:22everyone kind of thinks about, right?
  • 07:23Classically, the digital divide,
  • 07:24those who have access to the
  • 07:26Internet and those who who do not.
  • 07:28But there's a lot more there, right?
  • 07:29There's a whole discussion around broadband
  • 07:32infrastructure and who had that actual,
  • 07:34you know,
  • 07:35Internet lines or Wi-Fi
  • 07:36signal getting to their home.
  • 07:37That's a whole discussion there.
  • 07:39There's also the components of
  • 07:40not only having that reach your
  • 07:42home or reach your device,
  • 07:43but are you now able to afford it?
  • 07:44Are you able to afford the broadband,
  • 07:46afford the device?
  • 07:47And then the other poke piece I'll
  • 07:48get to a little bit later is the
  • 07:50role of the healthcare system in
  • 07:51serving as a as a as a touch point
  • 07:53to say are we going to screen
  • 07:55for these things and then refer
  • 07:57to the appropriate resources.
  • 07:58And then one that I I haven't
  • 08:00noted in the slide here,
  • 08:01but I think it's super important.
  • 08:02It's more of a structural component
  • 08:04here and this is where the role
  • 08:06of digital redlining or digital
  • 08:08discrimination comes into play.
  • 08:09And for those,
  • 08:10for those not in the know,
  • 08:11digital redlining and build discrimination
  • 08:13refers to a practice by Internet
  • 08:15service providers in which they kind
  • 08:17of deploy their Internet services in
  • 08:19ways that disadvantage certain groups.
  • 08:21So in a sort of a simple example
  • 08:23would be there are certain areas
  • 08:25where deploying very slow speed
  • 08:26Internet at high cost.
  • 08:28Or or they say they're
  • 08:29offering a plan that's like,
  • 08:30you know,
  • 08:31$50.00 a month across a
  • 08:33whole geographic area,
  • 08:34but in certain areas are
  • 08:35slowing the speeds down.
  • 08:36So it's not the fact that no one's
  • 08:38actually getting the same Internet
  • 08:39speed and they're kind of making
  • 08:41these choices and that's often called
  • 08:42digital redlining or cheer Flattening
  • 08:44is another term that you might hear
  • 08:45and this is more of a structural,
  • 08:47structural piece of this.
  • 08:49So that's about technology access next.
  • 08:52But having having access to
  • 08:53the Internet is one thing,
  • 08:54being able to use it effectively is
  • 08:57another when you have it in your hand.
  • 08:59And so in the next line,
  • 09:01I sort of highlight three things I
  • 09:03think about one, it's the platforms,
  • 09:042, it's having a one-on-one support.
  • 09:06And three,
  • 09:07how do we work with community organizations.
  • 09:09And in the next line,
  • 09:10I'll tell you about one of my
  • 09:12favorite studies, a simple study,
  • 09:13but so good here was they took
  • 09:16a series of patients,
  • 09:17they gave him a chronic disease.
  • 09:19Focus apps and they ask them to complete
  • 09:21data entry and data retrieval tasks.
  • 09:23And the patients were only able to
  • 09:24complete about 50% of the tasks.
  • 09:26So if you can imagine your favorite app,
  • 09:27you know, I presume it's going
  • 09:29to be a social media app.
  • 09:30Let's say you're using Twitter
  • 09:31or Instagram or something.
  • 09:33If you're only able to post to it
  • 09:34but not actually look at anything,
  • 09:36it probably wouldn't be a very useful app.
  • 09:37And so this isn't from a design perspective,
  • 09:39this is the kind of environment
  • 09:41our patients are seeing.
  • 09:42And in the next slide.
  • 09:44And so you sometimes,
  • 09:45even if you designed the technology
  • 09:47to be the best,
  • 09:48you might need some extra
  • 09:49support and extra help.
  • 09:50And there's increasingly the use of
  • 09:52digital health navigators to help people
  • 09:54on board or use these technologies as
  • 09:56new members of the healthcare team.
  • 09:57We had a digital health navigator
  • 09:59pilot that I was closely related to
  • 10:01one of our primary care clinics where
  • 10:03we reached out to around 400 patients
  • 10:05trying to get them to enroll in the portal.
  • 10:07We were able to contact most of them
  • 10:10and then we enrolled about a third
  • 10:12of them and then of those that we
  • 10:15enrolled about 8080% or so actually
  • 10:17logged into the portal again and
  • 10:18that was our measure to say this
  • 10:20one-on-one support really made a
  • 10:21difference in in connecting patients
  • 10:23with this new tool and making it part
  • 10:25of the something that we're using
  • 10:27over the long term in the next slide.
  • 10:29I just sort of make the point that,
  • 10:31you know, we often did.
  • 10:32As we've kind of gone through this process,
  • 10:33we've often been like,
  • 10:34oh, wow,
  • 10:34how are we going to teach
  • 10:35patients how to do this?
  • 10:36And digital literacy,
  • 10:37really not unique to healthcare.
  • 10:38There's a lot of folks in adult
  • 10:40education and youth education that have
  • 10:42been working on this for a long time,
  • 10:44perhaps not in the context of health,
  • 10:45but in the context of civic engagement,
  • 10:47workforce development.
  • 10:48There's a lot to learn from
  • 10:50that from those folks too.
  • 10:51So I think it's an opportunity
  • 10:53for us to do that.
  • 10:54And then the next line,
  • 10:56we'll talk about
  • 10:57implementation considerations.
  • 10:58From an implementation standpoint,
  • 11:01next slide also highlight three things here.
  • 11:03One is fairly simple,
  • 11:04looking at looking at your
  • 11:06use across demographics,
  • 11:08but the other thing is showing
  • 11:09it to the right people,
  • 11:10the people in leadership,
  • 11:11so they can review these dashboards and say,
  • 11:13hey, we just deployed this new digital tool.
  • 11:15How can we go about, you know,
  • 11:17we're noticing these gaps,
  • 11:17what do we have to deploy
  • 11:19to address those pieces?
  • 11:20The second one is all around workflow.
  • 11:22So you know,
  • 11:23when we looked at some of the
  • 11:24use of telehealth for example,
  • 11:26we found that it wasn't just patient
  • 11:27factors that were driving some of the
  • 11:29disparities in telephone versus video.
  • 11:31There's a lot of like clinic level factors,
  • 11:34provider or clinician level factors.
  • 11:35So having those workflows in place,
  • 11:37for example, you know,
  • 11:39easy way to include interpreters as
  • 11:42part of like a telehealth visit,
  • 11:44you know drives a big point in kind of.
  • 11:49Thing that I often think about and and
  • 11:50was were brought up a little bit in the
  • 11:52previous panel was about privacy and trust.
  • 11:54So if you go to the next slide
  • 11:56when we talk to think about a lot
  • 11:58of these things that are like they
  • 11:59sound really great, right.
  • 12:00They're like okay,
  • 12:00we're going to you know monitor you remotely
  • 12:02but for certain patients that you know
  • 12:03if you think about it in a different way,
  • 12:05it's like I'm looking at you remotely
  • 12:06from afar when you're not maybe.
  • 12:08And so making sure that as we're collecting
  • 12:10this data which I think is great,
  • 12:12we make sure that we're not sort of
  • 12:14falling into the trap of some other
  • 12:16technologies which have not been great with.
  • 12:19Privacy and for certain marginalized
  • 12:20populations like undocumented
  • 12:21immigrants for example,
  • 12:22we want to make sure that them accessing
  • 12:24care through these tools doesn't bring
  • 12:26up sort of other issues for them.
  • 12:28So I think it's important for us to
  • 12:30consider that those pieces as well.
  • 12:31And then we go to the next,
  • 12:32the next slide and the last part of
  • 12:34it and the last part of this section
  • 12:36is around engaging patients and
  • 12:37families and we go to the next slide.
  • 12:40And this one's about just creating
  • 12:42multimodal care here.
  • 12:43This is an experience from one of
  • 12:44our digital health navigators.
  • 12:46You talked to one patient who thought
  • 12:47the portal was the best thing ever and
  • 12:49you talked to another patient that was
  • 12:51like I don't want to engage with this at all.
  • 12:53And so there's some component of
  • 12:54patient preference that comes into
  • 12:55play and we have to build a system
  • 12:57that not only allows for all these
  • 12:58great you know technology tools for
  • 13:00some for allows for non non digital
  • 13:02options for those patients that may
  • 13:04not want to use those use those tools.
  • 13:06Next slide. And then we move to policy.
  • 13:10In terms of policy,
  • 13:11the main point here in the next
  • 13:13slide is around the Infrastructure
  • 13:14Investment in JOBS Act,
  • 13:15which passed earlier this year
  • 13:17and this was a whole as a whole
  • 13:19section on digital equity.
  • 13:20I think this is a real.
  • 13:21You know,
  • 13:22a real change to the foundation
  • 13:23where we're starting from.
  • 13:24It really takes a lot of the issues
  • 13:26that we're facing in terms of
  • 13:27technology access and literacy.
  • 13:28It tries to take them away only
  • 13:29from like all the healthcare,
  • 13:30the hospital has to do something and
  • 13:32brings them out into more like the
  • 13:34public or the the kind of federal space.
  • 13:35And I think it provides a lot
  • 13:37of opportunities, for example,
  • 13:38an Internet subsidy for patients that
  • 13:40may not have access to the Internet.
  • 13:42It provides money towards building
  • 13:44out digital literacy programs,
  • 13:45again working with community organizations.
  • 13:47So I think this is a lot,
  • 13:48a lot that's going to really push
  • 13:50things forward and then the next.
  • 13:51Slide from a healthcare organization
  • 13:54standpoint, you know I think
  • 13:55I'd highlight the main things.
  • 13:56I think it's you know being able to
  • 13:58refer patients to these programs.
  • 13:59I think it's one big opportunity
  • 14:01for healthcare organizations.
  • 14:02The other one is serving as stakeholders
  • 14:03and a lot of these discussions
  • 14:05are on digital discriminations.
  • 14:06As we collect more of these digital
  • 14:08needs screening information,
  • 14:09we're going to be able to tell
  • 14:10which patients are struggling,
  • 14:11which Internet service providers may
  • 14:13not be providing the best service
  • 14:14and we can have sort of advocate
  • 14:16for our patients like if we're
  • 14:17going to deploy our remote blood
  • 14:19pressure monitoring tool and in a
  • 14:20community that's being affected.
  • 14:22By digital redlining or tear fattening,
  • 14:24we're sort of fighting an
  • 14:25uphill battle already there.
  • 14:26So making sure that we're having
  • 14:29those discussions up front.
  • 14:30And then the next slide lastly is
  • 14:33viewing this as standard of care.
  • 14:34The main point I make here is that
  • 14:36there's some data suggest that only
  • 14:37certain patients are offered these
  • 14:39tools and we as clinicians and
  • 14:40provider pay a big role in kind of.
  • 14:42Pushing this as like this is
  • 14:43the way we're delivering care.
  • 14:45At least let's have a conversation
  • 14:46about it and I think making sure we
  • 14:49don't make pre assumptions about who's
  • 14:50going to use technology and who is not.
  • 14:52And the last point I'll leave
  • 14:54you with here is that, you know,
  • 14:56I'm an informatician technophile,
  • 14:57love technology,
  • 14:58but we want to make sure that we
  • 15:00keep our eye on the prize here.
  • 15:01Our in the prize is digital
  • 15:03HealthEquity to some extent,
  • 15:04but only to the extent that it
  • 15:05gets us to our ultimate goal,
  • 15:06which is really, really HealthEquity.
  • 15:09So with that, thank you so much for,
  • 15:10for listening and I'll pass
  • 15:11it on to my colleague.
  • 15:13So much.
  • 15:14Awesome. Thank you, Priya.
  • 15:18Great. Thank you, Elizabeth.
  • 15:20I'm really excited to be here
  • 15:23today and happy that to be
  • 15:25included as part of this panel.
  • 15:27So today already we've had
  • 15:29some really great analogies.
  • 15:31I really love the shopping mall,
  • 15:33one that carried through
  • 15:34the previous session,
  • 15:36but I'm going to start with 1-2 and
  • 15:38if we could go to the next slide,
  • 15:42Digital health solutions
  • 15:43are not separate services,
  • 15:44but they're rather tools for.
  • 15:47Healthcare providers.
  • 15:48So when a patient can't access
  • 15:51broadband or technology or make
  • 15:54use of these digital solutions,
  • 15:57we're actually removing a
  • 15:58powerful tool from the toolbox.
  • 16:01So Can you imagine removing a stethoscope
  • 16:04or an otoscope from the toolbox?
  • 16:07We we can't write those tools are
  • 16:10essential for care delivery and
  • 16:12just like that making sure patients
  • 16:14are able to access and understand.
  • 16:16Mobile health apps,
  • 16:18patient portals and telehealth,
  • 16:20all of that is equally essential
  • 16:22as a tool for healthcare delivery.
  • 16:25Next slide,
  • 16:27I'm going to spend some time
  • 16:29discussing how we can ensure
  • 16:31that that toolbox stays full.
  • 16:33And I'll share with you 10
  • 16:35strategies that can help improve
  • 16:36digital HealthEquity and hopefully
  • 16:38we'll be able to build on the
  • 16:41examples that Jorge just.
  • 16:42Shared,
  • 16:42but I'll I'll include system level
  • 16:45strategies that can help all the
  • 16:47patients that you're serving as
  • 16:49well as patient driven strategies
  • 16:51that can be personalized for
  • 16:54individual patients and communities.
  • 16:56Let's get started. Next slide.
  • 17:00At a system level healthcare providers and
  • 17:03technology companies can commit to designing
  • 17:06and implementing strategies in a way that
  • 17:08all patients can access and understand.
  • 17:11In addition, they should be committing to
  • 17:14including Digital HealthEquity as part of the
  • 17:17conversation not only in the design phase,
  • 17:20but also in implementation
  • 17:22and evaluation phases.
  • 17:24I'll give one example here on Common
  • 17:27Spirit has embedded HealthEquity and
  • 17:29Digital HealthEquity into their strategy.
  • 17:32So they actually include questions
  • 17:34related to technology access and digital
  • 17:37health literacy in the process that's
  • 17:39designed to evaluate digital solutions.
  • 17:42They then go beyond this to evaluate
  • 17:44the use of technologies and I'll
  • 17:46explain how in a few minutes.
  • 17:49Next slide.
  • 17:51In addition,
  • 17:52another system level approach is to create a
  • 17:55process that engages diverse patient voices.
  • 17:58And that can include partnering with
  • 18:01community based organizations that know
  • 18:03the needs of your patients and communities.
  • 18:05It can also include creating avenues
  • 18:08for underrepresented patients,
  • 18:10communities and providers to give
  • 18:12feedback on whether digital solutions are
  • 18:16actually accessible and understandable
  • 18:18by your real patients and communities.
  • 18:22One example that I've included here
  • 18:23on the slide is that hospitals could
  • 18:26engage moms with low health literacy.
  • 18:28To understand their communication
  • 18:30preferences and tailor services to meet
  • 18:33their needs and build their trust during
  • 18:36this important time of their life.
  • 18:38Next slide,
  • 18:40another system level solution is
  • 18:43tracking patient engagement with
  • 18:45digital tools to understand the
  • 18:47patients and populations that are
  • 18:49actually using these tools.
  • 18:51So let's go back to the example
  • 18:53I gave from Common Spirit.
  • 18:55Common Spirit has implemented Docent Health.
  • 18:58A program to provide culturally
  • 19:01competent navigators to pregnant moms.
  • 19:03These navigators are embedded in the
  • 19:06communities that they're serving,
  • 19:08and Common Spirit has analyzed the
  • 19:11data around the use of this program.
  • 19:14And then they take that data and
  • 19:15they stratify it by race, ethnicity,
  • 19:17and social vulnerability to determine
  • 19:20which communities are actually
  • 19:22engaging in docent health.
  • 19:24So by doing this data analysis,
  • 19:26they quickly knew who was using
  • 19:28the solution and who wasn't.
  • 19:30They were also able to identify
  • 19:32that for some Spanish speaking
  • 19:34populations in California,
  • 19:36providing a Spanish speaking
  • 19:38navigator wasn't enough.
  • 19:40They actually had to provide a navigator
  • 19:43that spoke the right dialect of
  • 19:46Spanish for their particular community.
  • 19:49Next slide.
  • 19:50The last system level strategy
  • 19:52that I'll share today is advocacy
  • 19:54and Jorge touched on this,
  • 19:56but it is important for all of us to
  • 19:58be advocating for policies that allow
  • 20:01patients to access digital health solutions.
  • 20:04So in addition to what Jorge said,
  • 20:06my former employer,
  • 20:08the American Hospital Association,
  • 20:10is currently advocating for
  • 20:12investments in infrastructure.
  • 20:14And that includes broadband access
  • 20:16as well as increased federal funding
  • 20:19coverage and reimbursement for
  • 20:21the expanded use of telehealth and
  • 20:24other technologies.
  • 20:25So if you're looking at what advocacy
  • 20:28can look like for your organization,
  • 20:30you could join those efforts or address
  • 20:33specific policy issues that are
  • 20:36happening at your local or state level.
  • 20:38Next slide,
  • 20:39now I will move on to some patient
  • 20:43driven strategies.
  • 20:44One way to improve digital health
  • 20:47access for individuals is to provide
  • 20:50patients and physicians with technology.
  • 20:52So here I provide an example from the
  • 20:55University of Mississippi Medical Center.
  • 20:57They launched a pilot
  • 20:59program several years ago.
  • 21:01It was a diabetes telehealth network
  • 21:04and it provided patients that
  • 21:06were participating in the program
  • 21:08with tablet computers at no cost.
  • 21:10Patients were then able to take and
  • 21:12report their own vital signs daily,
  • 21:14which led to improved patient outcomes,
  • 21:17increased medication management and
  • 21:19the patients were more willing to
  • 21:21participate in telehealth visits.
  • 21:23So I will note here that there are
  • 21:26many federal and state laws that apply
  • 21:28to giving technology to patients.
  • 21:30So if this is a solution you
  • 21:32are looking to pursue,
  • 21:33I do strongly recommend that
  • 21:35you consult with your legal team
  • 21:38before providing any iPads or
  • 21:40other technology to your patients.
  • 21:42Next slide Healthcare providers can
  • 21:46also proactively work with technology
  • 21:48companies to select solutions
  • 21:51that minimize barriers to access.
  • 21:53So Boston Medical Center was
  • 21:55seeking to find a solution provider
  • 21:58that could remote provide remote
  • 22:01patient monitoring solutions to
  • 22:04improve postpartum hypertension.
  • 22:06And they evaluated a number of different
  • 22:09solutions and ultimately their team
  • 22:12recognized that a majority of their
  • 22:14patients had access to smartphones,
  • 22:17but there was a divide in
  • 22:19patient's ability to connect.
  • 22:20So some patients didn't have a consistent.
  • 22:23Consistent access to Wi-Fi or they
  • 22:25didn't have a data plan that could
  • 22:28be used to support a video framework.
  • 22:31So as a result,
  • 22:32Boston Medical Center selected
  • 22:34a provider called Remedy that
  • 22:36uses the local cellular network.
  • 22:38And it has made the solution acceptable
  • 22:40to not only those that have Wi-Fi,
  • 22:43but anyone who has access to a smartphone.
  • 22:47And healthcare providers and
  • 22:48technology companies also sort
  • 22:50of need to acknowledge that.
  • 22:52Sometimes digital solutions are
  • 22:54not the best path forward to
  • 22:56meet patients where they are.
  • 22:58One popular alternative is using
  • 23:00text messages to provide information
  • 23:03and an access point for patients to
  • 23:06connect with healthcare providers.
  • 23:08So we know people text, you know,
  • 23:11check their text,
  • 23:12and research indicates that 90% of
  • 23:14text messages are read within 90
  • 23:16seconds of when they are received.
  • 23:19So texting can be a powerful way
  • 23:21to reach patients with the right
  • 23:24message at the right time.
  • 23:26It can also be done in different languages
  • 23:28and is relatively cost effective.
  • 23:31It's also just a really nice
  • 23:33interactive way to triage patient needs,
  • 23:35provide timely information,
  • 23:37and improve communication and
  • 23:40engagement with patients.
  • 23:42I'll also note here that there are
  • 23:44privacy and other laws to consider
  • 23:46with texting.
  • 23:46So once again,
  • 23:47engage your legal team if this is
  • 23:50an approach that you'd like to take
  • 23:53as you move forward. Next slide.
  • 23:57Another strategy is to develop digital
  • 24:00solutions that are linguistically and
  • 24:02culturally sensitive and inclusive.
  • 24:04So Providence uses Wildflower.
  • 24:07Which provides information and resources
  • 24:10to patients from pregnancy through delivery.
  • 24:14And as we spoke with the individuals
  • 24:16who helped design this solution,
  • 24:18they realized quickly that they
  • 24:20couldn't just change the language
  • 24:22from English to Spanish to be able
  • 24:24to adequately meet the needs of
  • 24:26their Spanish speaking population.
  • 24:28They actually needed to
  • 24:29evaluate the functionality of
  • 24:31the app and ask the question,
  • 24:33how would a Spanish speaking
  • 24:36individual approach this app?
  • 24:38And as a result,
  • 24:39they created a solution that considered
  • 24:42those individuals cultures as well as how,
  • 24:45when and where they would be
  • 24:47using the app Next Slide.
  • 24:51These solutions can also be
  • 24:53tailored to meet the needs of
  • 24:55those with lower digital literacy,
  • 24:57so for example by using more videos,
  • 25:00images, emojis and symbols.
  • 25:02Providers can ensure patients,
  • 25:05regardless of their literacy level,
  • 25:07are able to access and understand
  • 25:10the information next line.
  • 25:13In addition,
  • 25:14those with low digital literacy may
  • 25:17also be afraid to use technology
  • 25:19or to trust their providers.
  • 25:21So to address these concerns,
  • 25:24healthcare providers can offer
  • 25:25training and offer to support their
  • 25:28patients throughout the process.
  • 25:30One example,
  • 25:31Oschner Health launched an OBAR
  • 25:34many years ago and that OBAR
  • 25:37carries physician recommended
  • 25:38digital products and is staffed by
  • 25:41a full time technology specialist
  • 25:43that can help patients choose the
  • 25:45right tool and also can help set
  • 25:47up and guide and support these
  • 25:50individuals as they use those tools.
  • 25:53Similar to the example Jorge
  • 25:55shared during the pandemic,
  • 25:57Nemours Children's Hospital
  • 25:58redeployed staff as digital health
  • 26:02navigators to help patients and their
  • 26:04families complete digital forms,
  • 26:06troubleshoot connectivity issues and
  • 26:09better engaged in telehealth visits.
  • 26:12And then the last strategy is just that
  • 26:16organizations can develop workflows
  • 26:18that better allow clinical teams
  • 26:20to engage patients in these tools.
  • 26:23So Freighter,
  • 26:25next slide please.
  • 26:27Freighter and the Medical College of
  • 26:30Wisconsin have implemented baby scripts,
  • 26:32which is a platform designed to.
  • 26:35Connect expectant mothers with
  • 26:37their doctors and resources to
  • 26:39improve perinatal outcomes.
  • 26:40So expectant mothers are invited
  • 26:42to join baby scripts after it's
  • 26:45determined that they are pregnant.
  • 26:47However, early on in the implementation,
  • 26:49Freighter realized that certain
  • 26:51communities and populations
  • 26:53were not engaging with the app,
  • 26:55so they created a process where
  • 26:58their team proactively reaches out
  • 27:00to those individuals who didn't
  • 27:02accept the initial invitation.
  • 27:04And encourages them to join
  • 27:07and use the baby scripts tool.
  • 27:10So I know I went through all of that quickly,
  • 27:12but I hope those 10 strategies and
  • 27:14the examples provided are helpful
  • 27:16to you and your team as you take
  • 27:19on Digital HealthEquity and Tara.
  • 27:20I'll turn it over to you.
  • 27:25Great. Thank you.
  • 27:26I am enjoying this virtual symposium so much.
  • 27:29I love all the tangible
  • 27:31approaches and examples.
  • 27:32I've been taking notes from my Co
  • 27:35panelists and I really hope that I
  • 27:37can build on what's been said so
  • 27:40far in terms of digital equity and
  • 27:42inclusion in regards to a specific
  • 27:44very vulnerable patient population
  • 27:46which is Medicaid beneficiaries.
  • 27:48So that's where we're going to go in
  • 27:50the final part of our segment here and.
  • 27:54Basically, I'll start off with just
  • 27:57explaining how Medicaid beneficiaries
  • 27:58tend to access digital health tools
  • 28:00now and as well as telehealth.
  • 28:02And then I'd like to end on some policy
  • 28:06considerations for how to ensure
  • 28:07access to care for this particular
  • 28:09patient population and how which
  • 28:12could help mitigate against to health
  • 28:13disparities now and in the future.
  • 28:15So with that next slide please.
  • 28:18So I thought I'd start off
  • 28:20just by quickly clarifying,
  • 28:22you know the major government
  • 28:24payers here with Medicaid,
  • 28:25Medicare,
  • 28:25the numbers of Americans that are
  • 28:28under those different government
  • 28:29safety Nets along with dual eligible.
  • 28:32So Medicaid is our program for low
  • 28:35income individuals and there's about 76
  • 28:38million Americans on that whereas Medic.
  • 28:40Medicare.
  • 28:40Medicare is for older adults and
  • 28:43then dual eligibles would be those
  • 28:45who qualify for older adults on
  • 28:47Medicare who also are low income,
  • 28:49which is over 12 million Americans.
  • 28:52And I now want to touch on a report
  • 28:54that was just published by the
  • 28:56Government Accountability Office,
  • 28:58really looking at the experience among
  • 29:00the States and how they were accessing
  • 29:03telehealth specifically and access
  • 29:04to care for a Medicaid population
  • 29:07and what it was like pre pandemic.
  • 29:11And you know starting in March before
  • 29:13March 2020 and then what's happened
  • 29:15over the past year until February 2021,
  • 29:17but there was this incredible 15 times
  • 29:21increase across these five states.
  • 29:23So with the next slide,
  • 29:25you'll see a sampling of these States
  • 29:27and they went out of their way to choose
  • 29:30states that represent a broad swath of
  • 29:32our population in terms of the percent
  • 29:34that are in rural areas have access to
  • 29:38broadband and then variations among.
  • 29:40Demographics such as age,
  • 29:42income and education and that's
  • 29:43why these states were selected.
  • 29:45And and you could see that
  • 29:47right before the pandemic,
  • 29:49about 11% of Medicaid,
  • 29:50I'll use Arizona as an example,
  • 29:5311% of Medicaid beneficiaries
  • 29:55were accessing telehealth,
  • 29:57telehealth for one or more of
  • 29:59their healthcare services.
  • 30:00But then in the year then the
  • 30:02pandemic started in March 2020 to
  • 30:04February 2021 that shot up to 43.8.
  • 30:07And then just apply that across
  • 30:08the board to these other states.
  • 30:10And this builds on what everyone
  • 30:12has been talking about,
  • 30:13this huge increase in telehealth utilization,
  • 30:16but then thinking about it in regards
  • 30:19to a specific very vulnerable
  • 30:21population group and how they
  • 30:23were able to access telehealth.
  • 30:25So with that, I'll go on to the next slide.
  • 30:30So as I mentioned,
  • 30:32Medicaid does largely support.
  • 30:34It does support those who
  • 30:35qualify through means,
  • 30:36so their their income thresholds
  • 30:38are below a certain amount.
  • 30:39But in relation to that,
  • 30:41there's two subgroups,
  • 30:42those who also have disabilities and as well
  • 30:45as being low income and those who are older.
  • 30:48And I point this out because
  • 30:50there's specific healthcare needs
  • 30:52depending on these other two groups.
  • 30:54So often times behavior health coincides with
  • 30:57those with disabilities and for older adults,
  • 31:00longterm care is a is a big issue
  • 31:02and Medicaid is the largest payer.
  • 31:04For longterm care in America.
  • 31:05So when we think about digital health tools
  • 31:08and access to healthcare via telehealth,
  • 31:10how that would apply in that setting and
  • 31:13the next slide gets right to that point.
  • 31:16Where right now every state has
  • 31:18a version of a state waiver,
  • 31:21a health, health,
  • 31:23home and community based
  • 31:24services where in this case,
  • 31:26looking at an older population,
  • 31:28they have the option to go into a
  • 31:30nursing home to receive care or they
  • 31:32could sign up to hopefully age in
  • 31:34place and receive care in their home.
  • 31:37Which would be longterm supports
  • 31:38and services where they would
  • 31:40have an aide come out and help
  • 31:41them for a few hours a day.
  • 31:42But what's happening is the
  • 31:44demand far outweighs the supply.
  • 31:45So across America,
  • 31:47Medicaid eligible older adults are
  • 31:51waiting on average of three years
  • 31:53across basically the whole country
  • 31:55with over 820 thousand Americans
  • 31:57waiting to receive care in the home
  • 32:00as instead of trying instead of
  • 32:02going to an institutional setting
  • 32:04And then if we could click the.
  • 32:07Forward advance,
  • 32:07there should be a pop up here and they just,
  • 32:10I'm talking about Medicaid
  • 32:12eligible older adults.
  • 32:13But this has a real impact for our
  • 32:15whole society in terms of how we're
  • 32:17caring for an older population and
  • 32:19just how we can use our digital health
  • 32:21tools and also access to care via
  • 32:23telehealth in the home to really help
  • 32:26individuals age in place and support
  • 32:28a goal that many Americans share.
  • 32:31Next slide please.
  • 32:33So this is happening a bit and incremental
  • 32:37effects during the pandemic there,
  • 32:40there was a addition of Appendix K
  • 32:43to home and community based waivers
  • 32:45that many states took advantage of and
  • 32:47that's where they are really trying
  • 32:49to digitize home and community based
  • 32:51services to allow for more digital
  • 32:53health tools in the home to allow
  • 32:55virtual visits as opposed to in person.
  • 32:57So that could be a way going
  • 32:59forward that states are really
  • 33:00playing with options available to
  • 33:02them in these Medicaid waivers.
  • 33:04And I just wanted to draw attention
  • 33:06because that keeps coming up as a way
  • 33:09that the Medicaid system is evolving
  • 33:11in terms of adapting new tools.
  • 33:13Next slide, please.
  • 33:15So I've broken down what are my Co
  • 33:17panelists and others have mentioned
  • 33:19in terms of the digital divide in
  • 33:21terms of three areas and looking
  • 33:23at a Medicaid eligible population.
  • 33:25And that is the,
  • 33:27the, the range of providers
  • 33:29and services that are covered
  • 33:31under those who are on Medicaid.
  • 33:33And then those technology barriers
  • 33:35that both my Co panelists Jorge and
  • 33:38Priya really mentioned in terms of what
  • 33:40they are and ways to address them.
  • 33:41And the one that I'm going to
  • 33:43focus on quite a bit is the.
  • 33:45The differences between access
  • 33:48to telehealth when it's video,
  • 33:50audio versus audio only and the
  • 33:53impact that could have on a Medicaid
  • 33:55eligible population and and relatedly
  • 33:57a payment parity if you're if you
  • 33:59have very limited means it makes
  • 34:01a big difference in terms of how
  • 34:03healthcare can be reimbursed.
  • 34:04Payment parity would be the same
  • 34:07amount of reimbursement for in
  • 34:09person care as it would be for
  • 34:11telehealth whereas coverage parity
  • 34:13would mean that the service was.
  • 34:15Covered or if it's not covered at all,
  • 34:18and how would an individual with
  • 34:20very limited means receive the care
  • 34:22that they need and would like?
  • 34:24Next slide please.
  • 34:26So it's a build on an example
  • 34:28of how access to telehealth.
  • 34:31Was broken down by Medicaid beneficiaries.
  • 34:33This is a nice way of showing what
  • 34:36states were doing in different ways
  • 34:38before the pandemic started and then
  • 34:40during the public health emergency
  • 34:42where you could see this incredible
  • 34:44increase in access when it came comes
  • 34:46to particular services that were
  • 34:49being provided now via telehealth.
  • 34:51And you know,
  • 34:52for the most part behavior health has stayed.
  • 34:54It was high and it's remained
  • 34:56high and and then relatedly,
  • 34:58the other things have seen a huge.
  • 35:00Huge jump, particularly dental,
  • 35:03occupational health,
  • 35:04even longterm supports and services.
  • 35:06So these were allowing everyone's
  • 35:08comments like things that states
  • 35:10really did modify for their Medicaid
  • 35:13populations in terms of widening
  • 35:15the numbers of providers and types
  • 35:18of services available to them.
  • 35:20Next slide.
  • 35:21But what was nice though,
  • 35:23is it was further broken out by
  • 35:26Medicaid beneficiaries accessing
  • 35:27these services with video audio
  • 35:30care as opposed to just audio only.
  • 35:32So if we can advance again,
  • 35:36great, It might be one more advanced.
  • 35:38Thank you. And one more, sorry animation.
  • 35:42So then you'll see that the
  • 35:44this graph divides audio only,
  • 35:47which is the yellow part
  • 35:49on top with visual audio,
  • 35:52which is the blue part on the bottom and
  • 35:55it breaks it down by race and ethnicity,
  • 35:57income, education levels.
  • 36:00And then you see that for the most part.
  • 36:03Individuals that are white,
  • 36:04we're much more likely to
  • 36:05access telehealth via video,
  • 36:07whereas those who have a Latino
  • 36:10background were much more likely to
  • 36:12access telehealth via audio only.
  • 36:14So it was just a nice breakdown of thinking
  • 36:17about if we do limit access to care in
  • 36:19ways in which it needs to be only video,
  • 36:22video, audio,
  • 36:23how that impacts particular population,
  • 36:25groups within this already very
  • 36:28vulnerable Medicaid population.
  • 36:30Next slide please.
  • 36:33So I and then thirdly,
  • 36:34I wanted to draw attention to there
  • 36:36are other ways to enhance access to
  • 36:39care outside of state legislation
  • 36:41and governor executive action.
  • 36:43And that's what individual Medicaid
  • 36:45departments are doing in certain states.
  • 36:47And I highlight two examples here
  • 36:49with California and Ohio where
  • 36:51California passed payment parity
  • 36:53for audio only as an example of how
  • 36:56they were trying to ensure care
  • 36:58for their vulnerable population
  • 37:00group and Ohio did just really.
  • 37:03Expanded across the board a range
  • 37:05of providers and services that could
  • 37:07that would be eligible to receive
  • 37:09care via telehealth or virtually.
  • 37:11Next slide.
  • 37:14So in my remaining time,
  • 37:16I wanted to give two state examples and
  • 37:18sort of wrap up here with how state,
  • 37:20how states craft their legislation around
  • 37:22virtual care makes a big difference.
  • 37:25So in Arizona, it's a very detailed
  • 37:27approach to how telehealth is
  • 37:29defined and then there's a very
  • 37:32specific audio only carve out.
  • 37:34We're really only in situations
  • 37:37where due to technology or other
  • 37:40infrastructure limits would
  • 37:41be considered appropriate.
  • 37:43Next slide.
  • 37:46So this has had real implications for
  • 37:48access to audio only in the state of
  • 37:51Arizona and and they created an Advisory
  • 37:53Council which many states have done
  • 37:56particularly monitor audio only care.
  • 37:58And in Arizona this past January,
  • 38:00this Advisory Council recommended to actually
  • 38:02reduce the number of codes that would be
  • 38:05eligible for audio only by nearly 2/3.
  • 38:07So that's the change of what once existed
  • 38:10and currently what's happening in Arizona.
  • 38:12And then in contrast,
  • 38:13if I could compare another state in
  • 38:15the next slide which is Colorado's
  • 38:18definition of telehealth,
  • 38:20you you see that it's quite broad.
  • 38:22It's really just any type of care
  • 38:24that's delivered at a distance and I
  • 38:26think there's no audio only carve out.
  • 38:29And also by having such a broad
  • 38:31definition of how telehealth is provided,
  • 38:33it allows for emerging technologies
  • 38:35that we may that haven't come about yet,
  • 38:37they will be about soon that really enables.
  • 38:43The law the law can to be much more
  • 38:45flexible given what could be happening
  • 38:46with technology and then it's and
  • 38:48it's and it's a different way of
  • 38:50showing how states their approaches
  • 38:53has a big impact on access to care.
  • 38:56Next slide.
  • 38:58So this is going to bring up I think a
  • 39:00lot of tie in well with a lot of the
  • 39:03comments that pre MA but some really
  • 39:04tangible examples for what's happening
  • 39:07with different providers and these
  • 39:09different platforms of of addressing
  • 39:11these issues with barriers to care.
  • 39:13But I think mainly what I would
  • 39:14just like to touch on when we're
  • 39:16thinking about if we require.
  • 39:19Video, audio services or in person visits,
  • 39:22how that impacts the individual's
  • 39:24access to care if they are this
  • 39:27vulnerable patient population group.
  • 39:29And I did include at the bottom with
  • 39:32the regulator that's coming up more to
  • 39:34the forefront of these discussions,
  • 39:36which is the Federal Trade Commission,
  • 39:38which basically says it's the standard of
  • 39:40care that matters, not how it's delivered.
  • 39:44Next slide.
  • 39:45So my final comments,
  • 39:46I think I'm right about time is I
  • 39:49just want to touch on what's been
  • 39:51happening across the country when it
  • 39:53comes to rural populations trying
  • 39:54to access palliative care.
  • 39:56And it really comes down to patients
  • 39:58having to make really tough decisions
  • 40:00between being able to remain in their
  • 40:02home and have their pain managed as
  • 40:04opposed to going to a more urban or
  • 40:06tertiary center to receive palliative care.
  • 40:08And this is an article that came out
  • 40:11pre COVID and it showed the impact it had.
  • 40:15By patients being able to access
  • 40:17palliative care in their home.
  • 40:19And if we could touch on the next slide,
  • 40:22our next, yeah, great.
  • 40:23What a huge equity issue it was just to
  • 40:25allow patients to have that decision.
  • 40:27And I love how Jorge ended his slides
  • 40:30with how how digital equity just
  • 40:32helps us get to equity in general
  • 40:35when accessing healthcare.
  • 40:37And with that,
  • 40:37I'll turn it over to our moderator, Dr.
  • 40:39Krupinski.
  • 40:41Awesome. And thanks all of you for
  • 40:43such wonderful information for
  • 40:45staying awesomely on time as well.
  • 40:47So we have about 5 minutes
  • 40:48for discussion in Q&A.
  • 40:49And So what I'm going to do is I'm going
  • 40:52to throw a question out there and and,
  • 40:55you know, put you on the spot.
  • 40:57So you've all given some
  • 40:59really great examples.
  • 41:00And unfortunately, sometimes when
  • 41:02people talk about HealthEquity,
  • 41:04they can think, well,
  • 41:05the system's going to take care of it.
  • 41:08You know, so it's noted $65 billion
  • 41:09that the government is going to
  • 41:11spend on digital HealthEquity,
  • 41:13large hospital systems,
  • 41:14Medicare, Medicaid,
  • 41:15states that are addressing HealthEquity
  • 41:17by you know throwing resources
  • 41:19at it and examples that pre gave
  • 41:21with in terms of you know people
  • 41:23doing research studies and so on.
  • 41:25So the question that I have for
  • 41:27each one of you and you can either
  • 41:29volunteer or I'll start to point
  • 41:31people out nobody answers is what
  • 41:34can the individual practitioner.
  • 41:37Sitting there faced with the prospect
  • 41:40of a patient and then trying to decide,
  • 41:43you know,
  • 41:43how do I interact with this patient best
  • 41:46given whether they know or don't know about,
  • 41:48you know,
  • 41:49where this patient is and so on.
  • 41:50What can that individual practitioner
  • 41:53do on their own to start to
  • 41:57utilize telehealth to address
  • 41:59health disparities or vice versa,
  • 42:01to somehow look at the lens of telehealth
  • 42:03and how they're going to do it?
  • 42:06Through that lens of health
  • 42:09disparities and HealthEquity.
  • 42:11So I'm going to start with Jorge.
  • 42:13I'm just going to go down the line.
  • 42:14What do you think the one one
  • 42:16thing that a practitioner could do?
  • 42:18Yeah,
  • 42:19I mean, I think that the simplest
  • 42:20one for me is it seems simple,
  • 42:22but it's like talk, talk to the patient.
  • 42:24I think having that conversation and that
  • 42:27we learned that with our Digital Navigator.
  • 42:29Having that conversation,
  • 42:29like what's the pain point that
  • 42:31you're feeling and how and is there
  • 42:33a technology that can address it.
  • 42:34You know, I think sometimes we
  • 42:35try to think of technology very
  • 42:37broadly and like we can do this,
  • 42:38we can do this, we can do this.
  • 42:40But for the individual patient it
  • 42:41may be like I'm really struggling
  • 42:43for I don't know and if we've tried.
  • 42:45The framework of all of this with like,
  • 42:47with how the health and equity in
  • 42:49mind increasingly we're moving toward
  • 42:51structural and so terms of health.
  • 42:52So using that as a starting point as
  • 42:54like what what Which one of those is
  • 42:56being challenged and how can tech.
  • 42:58Bridget,
  • 42:58if it's like I'm struggling with
  • 43:00housing insecurity and you're like,
  • 43:02well, technology is not really
  • 43:03going to make a difference there,
  • 43:04then perhaps technology is not
  • 43:06the right solution.
  • 43:06But it's like oh, you know,
  • 43:07I'm really struggling with like,
  • 43:09you know,
  • 43:09getting access to care getting
  • 43:10time off from work or something.
  • 43:11Oh, OK well,
  • 43:12telehealth can play a role there.
  • 43:13Let's try to make it use,
  • 43:14I think talking to the patient.
  • 43:15And seeing how it in lines
  • 43:17with HealthEquity frameworks,
  • 43:18I think it's where I would start.
  • 43:19Great
  • 43:20answer Priya. So Jorge stole my
  • 43:23answer because they ask the patient,
  • 43:26right, which I think is an excellent
  • 43:29sort of place to start is in
  • 43:31conversation with the patients about
  • 43:32what they actually want, right.
  • 43:34So I often use the example of my parents,
  • 43:36they are both in their late 70s, my mom.
  • 43:39Hates technology.
  • 43:40She wants an in person visit all the time.
  • 43:43She enjoys the communication
  • 43:45and the conversation.
  • 43:46My dad on the other hand is very tech savvy,
  • 43:49even more so than I am,
  • 43:51and he wants everything done
  • 43:52through an app or portal, right?
  • 43:54So asking those questions and.
  • 43:56Not making assumptions and I think
  • 43:59Jorge made this point earlier
  • 44:01as well as to who may want a
  • 44:03digital solution and who may not
  • 44:05asking that question of everyone.
  • 44:07And then I will say one of the
  • 44:09challenges when I was working at the
  • 44:11AHA that we heard consistently from
  • 44:13clinicians was that they didn't always,
  • 44:15once they asked the questions,
  • 44:17they didn't always have the resources
  • 44:20they needed to support the response
  • 44:22that an individual may have.
  • 44:24So I think doing some work on.
  • 44:26The back end to make sure that
  • 44:28some resources are available for
  • 44:29different responses that you may
  • 44:31get and if you are a clinician,
  • 44:33sort of employed by a hospital
  • 44:35or health system asking for help
  • 44:36in getting those resources.
  • 44:38So I took Jorges and then built
  • 44:40a little bit on it. Awesome.
  • 44:42Sharon. Yeah, 60 seconds.
  • 44:45Likewise I. What my Co panelist
  • 44:47said and then just to make it,
  • 44:49make it embedded in the system.
  • 44:51So when you have that
  • 44:52first point of engagement,
  • 44:54you know there's those preferred questions.
  • 44:55How would, how would you prefer
  • 44:57to receive this information?
  • 44:57How would you prefer to have
  • 44:59your visit conducted and and then
  • 45:01let people choose between text,
  • 45:02e-mail, audio only visual.
  • 45:04And so for every patient
  • 45:06regardless of their payer,
  • 45:07Medicare and Medicaid private out of pocket,
  • 45:10like you know their preferences
  • 45:11upfront and you're treating your
  • 45:13patients equally across the board.
  • 45:16Right, awesome. And so thanks all of you.
  • 45:18I have one other thing to add would be that,
  • 45:20you know we have to educate patients
  • 45:22as to what these terms mean because
  • 45:24I've heard so many stories about, well,
  • 45:26I picked the virtual option or I I picked
  • 45:28the telehealth and then they get there and
  • 45:30they don't realize what they picked and they,
  • 45:32oh, I picked telehealth.
  • 45:34I didn't realize that meant I
  • 45:35had to connect up.
  • 45:36So even though people can go through
  • 45:38that checklist and and pick things,
  • 45:39it's not just a matter of.
  • 45:41You know, do they have the access
  • 45:42is do they have an understanding
  • 45:44of what these options are?
  • 45:45And that's where things like videos,
  • 45:47you can send them in advance or
  • 45:49whatever explaining, you know,
  • 45:50what is telehealth all about.
  • 45:51So I appreciate your time, your effort.
  • 45:54I think it's been a wonderful
  • 45:56presentation and hopefully everybody
  • 45:58learned a little bit about ways
  • 46:00to address digital HealthEquity.
  • 46:03And Lee, I'm turning it back over to you.