Child Study Center Grand Round 09.22.2020
April 07, 2021Bridging Culture and Generation Gaps in the midst of Covid-19 CHATogether Through Interactive Theater
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- 00:00Pleasure to present this work at my home.
- 00:03Let me share my slides here. One second.
- 00:15Alright, so in the next hour or so,
- 00:19my colleague and I will be introducing
- 00:22you yell chat together the acronym Stand
- 00:27for Compassionate Home Action together.
- 00:30This is a Co-op, diversity mental health
- 00:32movement that we started about a year ago,
- 00:35but during the pandemic we have
- 00:38been expanding quite a bit.
- 00:40Now let me introduce what are the
- 00:43thinking an calling behind this.
- 00:45It started me as an Asian American child
- 00:48psychiatry training and a group of very
- 00:51talented colleague who are passionate
- 00:53to do something for the Asian Americans.
- 00:56They include yell undergraduate students,
- 00:59graduate students, medical students,
- 01:02international students,
- 01:03and scholar inside and outside of Yale.
- 01:08As you all know, in this pandemic
- 01:11has provoked so much emotions,
- 01:13it began with the worries about
- 01:16our physical health and safety.
- 01:18Then he is the fear, anger,
- 01:21loneliness from the ongoing pandemic
- 01:23related injustice from the society,
- 01:26including the Daily News Reporter about
- 01:28Sina phobic attack against Asian American.
- 01:31And then later on,
- 01:33black Life Matters and many more
- 01:36from the society.
- 01:38Deep reflection make us ponder what
- 01:41it means to be a minority in this
- 01:44country and what it means to be the
- 01:47next generation of children growing
- 01:49up in this unprecedented time.
- 01:52As a trainee at the Yale Child Study Center,
- 01:56as we all learn from Doctor Stube,
- 01:59we have the mission to make this world a
- 02:02better place for our children and families.
- 02:06With all this statement.
- 02:07This is what we're trying to achieve as
- 02:10chat together through interactive theater,
- 02:13we want to translate mental health to
- 02:16a language that can be understood by
- 02:19all through words, images and acting.
- 02:22Particularly acting,
- 02:23we put action that we can do
- 02:26something for one another.
- 02:29This is also a culturally sensitive program
- 02:32in which we promote healthy child pairing,
- 02:36communication,
- 02:37and emotional Wellness.
- 02:38We want to break the stigma of mental
- 02:43health so that we can talk mental
- 02:46health in our daily conversation.
- 02:48Lastly, chat together.
- 02:50Want to promote intercultural empathy
- 02:53as we all know we started this program
- 02:57within Asian American minority.
- 02:59But we need your help today to Unite
- 03:03across minorities including the ethnic
- 03:06minority and minority such as LGBTQ woman,
- 03:10gender, who maybe all of these are
- 03:14particularly vulnerable during this pandemic.
- 03:18Ultimately,
- 03:19we can all chat together.
- 03:23Now with this statement I would like
- 03:26to introduce the outline of this
- 03:28talk which also give you a snapshot
- 03:31of what we do in the organization.
- 03:33So we have theater arm in which our
- 03:37students and colleagues use the personal
- 03:40narrative to construct skits that
- 03:43features Asian child parent conflict.
- 03:46Indeed,
- 03:46today we will live perform one of the
- 03:49skit to show everyone how does that work.
- 03:53Two, we have public education arm.
- 03:55We constructed Flash card
- 03:57comics and podcasts.
- 03:59The follow up the teaching tool
- 04:02teaching point from the skit so that
- 04:05we translate what we learn into lay
- 04:09language to the comment to the community.
- 04:13We also have a research on
- 04:15in which we translate
- 04:17the academic question that could
- 04:19be interesting from the skin.
- 04:22We follow up with qualitative
- 04:24study and survey.
- 04:26For we have peer support ARM.
- 04:29Some of our member and I serve,
- 04:32consultation and peer support to
- 04:34the local New Haven community.
- 04:37Lastly, we also have collaboration
- 04:39on we work with artists,
- 04:41see the people and I will introduce one
- 04:44of the pilot project involving a school
- 04:47based project and I will talk about that.
- 04:51And Lastly I would like to call for action
- 04:55and talk about our future direction.
- 04:58So theater arm?
- 05:00How does that work?
- 05:02A group uses drama vignette as
- 05:04a way to capture specific themes
- 05:07of child parent conflict.
- 05:10Each of the skate has three parts.
- 05:13The first part we have a member to
- 05:16act out the problematic scenario.
- 05:19Chill.
- 05:20Me as the moderate are our call
- 05:23freeze and I will go in and process
- 05:26as the perspective of child and
- 05:29the parent will go over what go
- 05:32wrong and what could be changed.
- 05:35Three, as if everything in life has a tech.
- 05:40Two, we will.
- 05:41We do the same skit after incorporating
- 05:44more effective communication skill
- 05:47leading to an alternative scenario.
- 05:50Now in the past we have a skid related at
- 05:54the topic about COVID-19 family conflict.
- 05:58Black Life Matters discussion within
- 06:01Asian family LGBTQ coming out in
- 06:04Asian family mental health and
- 06:06stigma and also academic expectation.
- 06:11Now this month September is
- 06:15national Suicide Prevention Month.
- 06:18Chat together theater present
- 06:21parents with all the solutions.
- 06:23Let me take this opportunity to introduce
- 06:27scriptwriters Karabakh, who is a
- 06:30master student from Drexel University.
- 06:32She has a lot of experience
- 06:36in community theater.
- 06:37She is our chat together,
- 06:40Skip production director.
- 06:43Alan Lee, who is a fourth year medical
- 06:46student and he is our acting director.
- 06:50Hannah Lee, who is an undergraduate
- 06:52student from Centre College in Kentucky.
- 06:55She is a social media coordinating director,
- 06:58so we put all our video public,
- 07:01eight public education material
- 07:04to the social media.
- 07:06Today we have two actors,
- 07:08Vanessa Shockey who is the US service
- 07:11members serving in the armed force.
- 07:14She will be acting as the daughter
- 07:17in the skit, teenager, daughter.
- 07:19Her name is Jessica in the skip
- 07:23and we have Alan will act as a
- 07:26dad in a skip while just to keep
- 07:29in mind we are not Oscar winning
- 07:32actors here but we're showing the
- 07:34point drama is not everything.
- 07:37Everyone of you can be the actor.
- 07:40Everyone can be the skit
- 07:42writer and the moderator.
- 07:44With that in mind stage setup Jessica
- 07:47is an Asian American teenager who's
- 07:49trying to talk to her dad about
- 07:53depression and wanting to hurt herself.
- 07:56The child is also being stressed
- 07:58by a combination of cyberbullying,
- 08:01having people sent racist messages
- 08:04about Asian brink over to the US.
- 08:07Being at home all the time and
- 08:09not being able to see friends.
- 08:12Parents are fighting and yelling at home,
- 08:14and a grandparent is sick from Covid.
- 08:18With this background that may
- 08:20get out of this lie.
- 08:22Ann,
- 08:23now we are at will live performance
- 08:27right now. OK, so Jessica and dad.
- 08:31Are you ready?
- 08:32Give us an bill yourself and give
- 08:35me a heads up.
- 08:37We're ready already
- 08:38alright? And everyone Are you ready?
- 08:41Red alright, so yes version one
- 08:48problematic scenario. Action.
- 08:52Jessica, what's wrong with you?
- 08:54I finally said the pill.
- 08:55Bottle comma just told me you think
- 08:58about hurting yourself and you're
- 08:59really sad and you want to see a
- 09:02doctor. There's nothing wrong with you,
- 09:04you only have Doctor was wrong.
- 09:05Oh my God dad,
- 09:07I didn't take those pills like geez,
- 09:09I what's wrong with you? I just I.
- 09:12I don't know. I've been really sad.
- 09:14OK, why you feeling sad Oh my God,
- 09:16stop yelling at me,
- 09:18Dad see This is why I didn't.
- 09:20I just I don't know why, OK?
- 09:22The last couple of months have
- 09:24just been really stressful.
- 09:26And yeah, for all of us yeah cool OK,
- 09:29but for me I don't know.
- 09:31I've just been really,
- 09:32you know, schools being closed.
- 09:34I can't see my friends.
- 09:36I can't go anywhere I like,
- 09:38I've been getting so much crap
- 09:40online from these random people.
- 09:42I don't even go to school with them,
- 09:45just these random people keep harassing
- 09:47me about like coronavirus and like,
- 09:49oh, it's your fault because you're
- 09:51Asian and delete Instagram then.
- 09:53I blocked them and I'm not gonna.
- 09:56I can't delete Instagram because that's like.
- 09:59I like it. And I, that's how I talk to
- 10:02my friends. There's something
- 10:04called calling your friends or
- 10:05zooming them. Dad, no windows.
- 10:07That is awkward. That's because you're
- 10:09awkward. Oh my God, there are
- 10:11said I have the weird kid.
- 10:12That's so mean when you
- 10:14say that I don't think you
- 10:16understand I'm just being real. These
- 10:18are your problems.
- 10:19These things I'm making with happy.
- 10:21So you need to just stop thinking
- 10:23about these Internet strangers
- 10:24and you won't be unhappy.
- 10:26You don't need to see a doctor.
- 10:28OK, just don't be unhappy.
- 10:30Dad, I tried to do that but it
- 10:32doesn't work. It's more than that.
- 10:34That's why I think I need help. I
- 10:36I'll tell you right now,
- 10:38just think about other people's lives.
- 10:39Like for example there are
- 10:41kids in China were like don't
- 10:42have their parents around.
- 10:44They have to do all the housework,
- 10:45nothing going work.
- 10:46All these jobs are paying very little
- 10:48money and life is super hard for them.
- 10:50You don't have to do that like think
- 10:53about that your life is so much
- 10:55better just to have some perspective.
- 10:56I know that like yes, I'm very happy that
- 10:59I don't have to like God. But dad, that's
- 11:03that's it doesn't work.
- 11:05That's what's wrong with you.
- 11:06You haven't tried it. I
- 11:08have tried it and it doesn't help.
- 11:10It doesn't make me happier to know
- 11:13that other people are suffering it.
- 11:15Like honestly, it makes me more
- 11:17sad why, like? Well, I think about
- 11:19something sad and I stop to think about
- 11:22how much worse it could be. I appreciate
- 11:24my situation more. Try that. Yeah,
- 11:26like I appreciate the house in the roof
- 11:29and not having to be in child labor.
- 11:31Yeah, there's nothing to
- 11:33be sad about.
- 11:34But I'm still, you and Mom
- 11:35are arguing all the time.
- 11:37You're always yelling at me.
- 11:38And like with Gramma getting sick
- 11:40last week, but she's better this
- 11:42week. She got shot. She got better. Yeah, I
- 11:44get that I know that, but I was still scared.
- 11:47It's just too much and I don't know
- 11:49how to but there's nothing wrong so
- 11:52you don't need to see a doctor.
- 11:54You don't need to think
- 11:55about hurting yourself.
- 11:56There's nothing wrong with you, OK?
- 11:58Oh my God, dad, I'm trying
- 12:00to tell you that I need
- 12:02help. I am helping you like
- 12:03I'm here to help you right now.
- 12:06We all love you. OK so you'll be fine.
- 12:08OK they just think about happy
- 12:10things so that you won't be
- 12:11thinking about hurting yourself
- 12:13and you don't even see a doctor.
- 12:15OK, just try to be more happy.
- 12:17Jessica alright.
- 12:19If you don't find, I'll try.
- 12:24Alright, freeze. OK, sounds a dad
- 12:28and Jessica were pretty upset.
- 12:30Obviously an less pause and
- 12:32talk about it now Jessica,
- 12:35tell us what was going on just now.
- 12:40I feel like my dad, he doesn't really
- 12:42want to listen to what I have to say.
- 12:44He just wants me to not be sad anymore
- 12:46and he doesn't really want to hear what
- 12:49I've been going through an I've been
- 12:50asking to see a doctor and he doesn't
- 12:52think that's going to be helpful.
- 12:54He thinks it isn't really
- 12:55like an illness or anything.
- 12:57So it sounds like you're
- 12:59trying to reach out for help,
- 13:01but that is not listening.
- 13:03Yeah, OK, if if you can put your
- 13:06feeling into words to describe it,
- 13:08but what would that like?
- 13:10What would that feel like?
- 13:13Well it makes me.
- 13:15Feel really hopeless?
- 13:17'cause there's things that he's
- 13:18been telling me to do, obviously,
- 13:20and that's the first thing I tried
- 13:22and I think I'm at a point where I
- 13:24can't really do this on my own and I
- 13:27need like a doctor or somebody to get
- 13:29me professional help to get out of this,
- 13:31because otherwise I don't know how
- 13:33much longer I can deal with this.
- 13:36So Sansa, you are really
- 13:37crying out for help,
- 13:39you need help right now, yeah.
- 13:42I see now now so now to Dad,
- 13:45you know, really upset?
- 13:47Just now to help but
- 13:49understand what was going on.
- 13:52I was just really worried about
- 13:53Jessica hurting herself like,
- 13:55especially after finding that pill bottle.
- 13:57I just really want her to try and focus
- 13:59on being happy because she has so much
- 14:01to be happy in her life or like I just.
- 14:04I just don't want him to be sad.
- 14:06Just wanted to focus on being happy.
- 14:09So you worry for her at the same time,
- 14:12you're trying to figure out something.
- 14:14Some solution to fix this?
- 14:16Yeah, I'm trying to help you right now.
- 14:18OK, well I'm a neutral observer here.
- 14:21I don't judge, but I'm trying to
- 14:23point out some observation and
- 14:25see what Jessica and you think,
- 14:28what you, what your perspective. OK.
- 14:30One thing that I notice at the beginning
- 14:33is sounds like Dad mentioned the phrase
- 14:36what's wrong with you couple of times.
- 14:39So you know like what's wrong
- 14:41with you in Asian language,
- 14:43perhaps in especially in Chinese.
- 14:45What's wrong with you,
- 14:47man, you're someone T or.
- 14:49The amendment I sounds like a pretty neutral
- 14:52phrase to go to means what is going on,
- 14:55but if what's wrong with you
- 14:58directly translate into English
- 14:59in my son's a little hurtful,
- 15:01perhaps I don't judge here,
- 15:03but like I we are here to
- 15:05wonder together so Jessica,
- 15:07like what is that phrase?
- 15:09What's wrong with you make you feel
- 15:12when that mentioned at the beginning?
- 15:15Well, that phrase makes me feel like
- 15:17I'm purposefully trying to feel sad like
- 15:19I'm doing this to myself, which I'm not.
- 15:22It also makes me feel like he's
- 15:24blaming me for how I'm feeling.
- 15:27Haha so so that sounds like you
- 15:30also interpret that as like her for
- 15:32like the problem is coming from you.
- 15:35Sounds like OK Ann and Dad like,
- 15:37we don't assume what we say is what
- 15:40you meant when you mention what's
- 15:42wrong with you, what was on your mind?
- 15:45What were you trying to say?
- 15:48Uh, so I can catch these.
- 15:50I might say, like yo man,
- 15:51Montay, and that that's what
- 15:53means what's wrong with you.
- 15:54Because I'm asking,
- 15:55what's the issue like I'm trying to
- 15:58communicate with the time trying
- 15:59to find out what's the matter and
- 16:02what's the situation with her.
- 16:04I guess I didn't know that
- 16:05to her when I asked her that.
- 16:07It sounds like I'm assuming she's
- 16:09broken or incorrect in some way.
- 16:10I'm just trying to figure
- 16:12out what's going on.
- 16:14I say I say so, so I'm glad we
- 16:17have this opportunity to discuss.
- 16:19Perhaps there are some cross cultural
- 16:21or cross language issue here.
- 16:23Anan that you can see that Jessica,
- 16:25you know that that didn't
- 16:27mean the way he said,
- 16:28and perhaps in my already make you
- 16:30feel in a certain way that upset you.
- 16:33I'm glad that perhaps we can be more
- 16:36aware of it and we can have a better
- 16:39way to communicate to one another.
- 16:42Now another thing that I notice you
- 16:44know Dad was trying to help Jessica
- 16:47to figure out some solution based on
- 16:50what you think that worked for you.
- 16:52Perhaps in the past,
- 16:54but it sounds pretty reluctant for for
- 16:56you to get Jessica for professional help.
- 16:59I wonder what is it all about?
- 17:03I
- 17:03just think that this is something
- 17:05that she can deal with herself.
- 17:07All of us are sad sometimes or
- 17:09like faced with tough situations.
- 17:11But I think my central part is being
- 17:13able to work through them and you
- 17:15sometimes just be able to grit your teeth
- 17:18and work hard through these issues.
- 17:19I've had times where my life has
- 17:21been going quite right and I just
- 17:23grab my teeth and work through
- 17:25it and change my circumstances.
- 17:27That's what she should do too.
- 17:29But the people have to go to doctors.
- 17:31Those people have something like
- 17:32seriously wrong with their mind,
- 17:34like they might have to take pills or
- 17:36they hear voices like those who are crazy.
- 17:38Jessica isn't crazy 'cause she's my
- 17:39daughter and there's nothing wrong with
- 17:41her and she doesn't need to see a doctor.
- 17:45Well, I see that's how you make the way how
- 17:49you think about it when we mentioned about
- 17:52going to see a doctor for mental health,
- 17:55well that's one way to see it but but
- 17:58at the same time I I notice initially
- 18:01that what brought you become so worry
- 18:04about Jessica was the pill bottle and
- 18:07as Jessica mentioned also the COVID-19.
- 18:09The bullying happening on Instagram.
- 18:11Those really negatively impacted
- 18:13Jessica and those are not trivial.
- 18:16Anne, and perhaps this is
- 18:18something like in our culture.
- 18:19Perhaps it is something really is not
- 18:22the easiest thing to reach out for help.
- 18:25Especially talking to mental health
- 18:27provider may have, you know,
- 18:29negative interpretation what it
- 18:31means to talk to a psychiatrist.
- 18:34Well, in fact you are talking
- 18:36to a child psychiatrist.
- 18:38I am one of the people there.
- 18:40I guess maybe we can work together,
- 18:43figure out some way you know we're not
- 18:45just seeing so-called crazy people.
- 18:48We are the people trying to help children,
- 18:51adolescents and young adults to help them
- 18:53to have a healthy growing development to
- 18:56do something they want to do in life.
- 18:59And especially in this pandemic,
- 19:01many children are metal and
- 19:03the lesson and even adult.
- 19:05They are really vulnerable.
- 19:06They have good reason to be
- 19:09sad and need help.
- 19:10I think that is a new learning curve.
- 19:13We can work together well.
- 19:15The same question also to Jessica Tool.
- 19:18How long have you been thinking
- 19:20about reaching out to mental
- 19:22health provider is that?
- 19:23Is there any hesitancy there too?
- 19:27Yeah, so I've been thinking about it,
- 19:29but it just I don't know.
- 19:31I just can't go to the doctor by myself.
- 19:33I need someone to take me and if
- 19:35I can't get my parents to agree
- 19:37with how we're going to solve this,
- 19:39then I don't know.
- 19:40I got really hopeless and thought about
- 19:42doing some really bad things to myself,
- 19:44but I mean like I hear from my friends,
- 19:47you know, going to the doctor can help and
- 19:49you don't always have to take medicine.
- 19:51I can go to therapy or something
- 19:53and see if that's going to help me.
- 19:56I see so it sounds like to Jessica,
- 19:59and perhaps, you know.
- 20:00There's something new to you.
- 20:02Perhaps it is also very new to that as well.
- 20:05And then as we are exploring something
- 20:08you we don't know what to expect,
- 20:10like what you expect to see a therapist
- 20:13or what to expect to see a psychiatrist.
- 20:16You know this is all new and generate
- 20:19you know and ciety and worrying
- 20:21what it is like all about, right?
- 20:23So so Dad as you can see Jessica like.
- 20:27Need someone to emotionally support her
- 20:29to navigate this uncertain T there.
- 20:33So Lastly to Jessica, if that is one
- 20:36thing you want that to change as we
- 20:39move on the alternative scenario,
- 20:42what do you want there to change so that
- 20:45you feel his emotional support to you?
- 20:50If he could let me finish kind
- 20:52of explaining how is feeling,
- 20:54or if he could be more open to other
- 20:56solutions because I mean if I end
- 20:59up hurting myself really badly,
- 21:00I think that going to the Doctor an
- 21:03even if going to the doctor is overkill
- 21:05and I don't need to go to the doctor.
- 21:08I still think it's better than doing
- 21:10these other methods that could end up
- 21:12doing something you know permanent and
- 21:14something that could really hurt myself.
- 21:16I just wish that he would open up his mind.
- 21:20These other solutions because it really
- 21:22helped me be less stressed about,
- 21:24you know, working through this thing.
- 21:27OK, Ananta dad, if there's
- 21:29one thing you can point out
- 21:31you want Jessica to change.
- 21:33So next time when she goes to
- 21:35you to tell you her feeling,
- 21:38what would you want her to change?
- 21:41I guess if Jessica could try
- 21:43like maybe if she could come
- 21:45and talk to me about things
- 21:47that would help in the future.
- 21:49Well, I guess you do that.
- 21:50I did you start by not interrupting
- 21:52her as much and trying to show
- 21:54like maybe I'm actually,
- 21:55I'm actually worried.
- 21:57OK, so that sounds like both of
- 21:59you want to make some changes
- 22:02to for better communication.
- 22:04Well, if there's one thing I can propose
- 22:07to change, perhaps that you know,
- 22:09and Jessica instead of using the angry
- 22:12and defensive mode to show your care,
- 22:15why don't we try having a more caring,
- 22:18worrying tone to carry out the conversation?
- 22:21You want to give it a try here.
- 22:25Alright, here we go version 2.
- 22:30Alternative scenario.
- 22:33Action. Jessica,
- 22:35what's happening with you?
- 22:36I found this empty pill bottle I heard
- 22:38from God that you think about hurting
- 22:40yourself and you're really unhappy
- 22:41and you want to doctor what's wrong?
- 22:44Well, I I didn't think Grandma was going to.
- 22:48That I didn't take those pills, I
- 22:51just what's wrong.
- 22:52Do you actually wanna know?
- 22:54Yeah, I wanna know what's going on.
- 22:59If I didn't want to
- 23:00know, why would I be asking you?
- 23:02See, I don't know yell at me some
- 23:05more 'cause I'm not good enough.
- 23:06No, I don't know. I
- 23:09don't yell at you 'cause
- 23:10you're not good enough.
- 23:11I'm yelling at you because I'm trying
- 23:12to make you better.
- 23:14Dad, I don't know.
- 23:15I I don't know what's wrong and
- 23:17that's the problem. I've just been.
- 23:19I've been really sad, OK?
- 23:22You have been sad.
- 23:24Yeah, for a long time now and
- 23:26it's gotten so much worse with
- 23:28the pandemic and staying home
- 23:29all the time and I've getting
- 23:31been getting bombarded with all
- 23:33these randos on Instagram that
- 23:34are telling me that it's my
- 23:36fault that coronavirus is here.
- 23:38You know the Chinese virus.
- 23:40Just delete Instagram.
- 23:41I don't have Instagram so I don't
- 23:44get these messages and I don't
- 23:46have those bad feelings. Dad,
- 23:47it's not Instagram's fault, it's
- 23:49the people. I'm giving you a
- 23:52solution. OK Dad, you're not listening.
- 23:54I don't think you understand how stressful
- 23:57it's been being home all the time.
- 23:59You and Mom are always fighting
- 24:01always yelling at me an with
- 24:04Gramma getting sick last week.
- 24:05Graham's fine, now dad.
- 24:07You asked me what's wrong?
- 24:10Do you really want to know?
- 24:11Do you really want to listen to me?
- 24:13'cause I don't feel like
- 24:14you're listening to me.
- 24:15I just feel like every time I
- 24:17try to say something you just
- 24:19try to tell me why I'm wrong.
- 24:20OK, OK, but that doesn't make
- 24:22when I'm feeling not real.
- 24:24Yeah, OK.
- 24:25OK OK I
- 24:26wanna listen to
- 24:27you. You about what's wrong.
- 24:29OK, I want you to be happy.
- 24:30I don't want you to have to go see a doctor.
- 24:34Yeah, but I think I need to see a doctor.
- 24:37Dad. There's a whole field of medicine
- 24:39that exists for this. It's not.
- 24:40It's not fake, it's not just for
- 24:42crazy people or whatever it's.
- 24:44I get really sad and I don't know
- 24:47what to do about it and so it
- 24:49makes me want to hurt myself and I.
- 24:51I don't know how not to feel this way.
- 24:56OK. And honestly, Dad,
- 24:59I didn't want to talk to you about it
- 25:01because I didn't think you'd understand
- 25:03or want to do anything about it.
- 25:04I told Grandma about it.
- 25:06Just 'cause I got to the point
- 25:08and it just came out and I need
- 25:10help and I don't know what to do.
- 25:12I
- 25:12know you trust Grandma a
- 25:14lot and gramma loves you a
- 25:15lot and she was worried,
- 25:16so that's why she told us.
- 25:19Grandma actually thinks
- 25:21you should see a doctor.
- 25:23You know, Jessica?
- 25:24I never really heard about.
- 25:29I just heard about people killing
- 25:31themselves because they got way too
- 25:32stressed or some other crazy thing,
- 25:34but it sounds like the peoples peoples
- 25:36words on Instagram are really hurting
- 25:37your feelings and this whole pandemic
- 25:39is really hard for a lot of people.
- 25:41Or maybe I haven't been trying
- 25:43to think by from your side.
- 25:45Dad, I don't know what's wrong with
- 25:47me and I know I have like a roof
- 25:50over my head and all those things.
- 25:52And even with that I still can't feel
- 25:54happy and this makes me feel even worse.
- 25:58I don't really get what's going on either,
- 26:00but I'm worried about you,
- 26:02so let's try figure out together.
- 26:03OK, like, let's make appointment with
- 26:05Doctor and I'll go with there with you.
- 26:08I love you Dad. OK.
- 26:13Alright, so probably guys
- 26:15this is the end of the skit.
- 26:18Thank you Vanessa Ann Allen, gay.
- 26:23OK, let's go back to the slide
- 26:26and continue the. Conversation.
- 26:34OK, so that was our theater arm.
- 26:38We also have public education.
- 26:40Our chat together, we grow.
- 26:43We produce flash card that to
- 26:46follow up the conversation teaching
- 26:49point coming from the skin,
- 26:51let me introduce we have a member name
- 26:55Griffey veteran who is a research associate
- 26:59at Yale Department of Evolution Biology.
- 27:03Besides science,
- 27:03she has a lot of talent.
- 27:06One of his talent is graphic design
- 27:09and also she also helped us to design
- 27:12our chat together logo as well.
- 27:14So my role as the trainee.
- 27:17I put a lot of concept that I learn
- 27:19from the residency and translator into
- 27:22lay language so that people in the
- 27:25Community can understand it an applied
- 27:28it to the real child parent interaction.
- 27:31For example here we have.
- 27:33There's just a definition of mentalization
- 27:36like imagine yourself in other other shoes.
- 27:39Be curious, nonjudgmental things
- 27:41through the lens of the other side.
- 27:45Using age appropriate language.
- 27:47So we translate this flash card
- 27:50and chill Chinese to Korean,
- 27:52and this is done by me and
- 27:56Jessica and Vanessa.
- 27:57So if any one of you have,
- 28:00like any other linguistic
- 28:02talent like join us,
- 28:04we want to spread this to other
- 28:07other community who speak
- 28:09different languages as well.
- 28:11So more of this,
- 28:13we have chat together comics.
- 28:15We use graphic.
- 28:17Graphic Madison as a way using
- 28:19visual storytelling method
- 28:21to illustrate mentalization.
- 28:23This is our other chat together
- 28:27member nearly no.
- 28:28Who is a third year medical
- 28:31student from University of Toledo.
- 28:34She is also a yell alumni really,
- 28:37really have the talent to combine
- 28:41Med medicine, an graphic design.
- 28:43So this is a comic speed between
- 28:46a modern daughter conversation.
- 28:49So Mother said you haven't been
- 28:52eating in this entire week.
- 28:53What is wrong, Mom? I think I'm depressed.
- 28:56So Mom tried to mentalize here.
- 28:59How could she be depressed?
- 29:01I don't understand,
- 29:02but right now I know my daughter is not OK.
- 29:05Maybe being a teen in this country
- 29:08can be really difficult and confusing.
- 29:10I should try to understand how she
- 29:13is feeling in order to support her.
- 29:17So Mom said,
- 29:18did I ever tell you how I felt when
- 29:20I moved to this country as a teen?
- 29:23I felt similar to how I think
- 29:25you might be feeling right now.
- 29:28So daughter also tried a mental eyes
- 29:30too really. What was that like?
- 29:32I was sad. I was lonely then too.
- 29:35I might not know exactly how it
- 29:37is for you right now,
- 29:39but I want to be there for you.
- 29:42Thanks Mom asunder heart for you
- 29:44back down to can we talk more?
- 29:47Of course.
- 29:49Show up this is a public education arm.
- 29:53Now we also have a research component
- 29:57in this program after we published.
- 30:00Culvert 19 skit on social media
- 30:03with her wanna follow up the
- 30:06question we want to see whether
- 30:09family harmony have changed after
- 30:11covid so we conduct a survey to
- 30:14understand family harmony scale
- 30:16before and after COVID-19.
- 30:18And here's the distribution within
- 30:20Asian American between 18 to
- 30:2225. So we have a research team here.
- 30:26Herman Pang who is a junior
- 30:29undergraduate student at Yale.
- 30:30Major in philosophy helping us.
- 30:33He is our chat together development,
- 30:36development, outreach, director.
- 30:37So he's helping us to recruit
- 30:40all the participants here.
- 30:42And Michelle saw who is a poster
- 30:44at Yale Department of Neurobiology
- 30:47and she is a research consultant.
- 30:50So here's some distribution as we are.
- 30:53This is a really in the middle
- 30:56of a recruiting participant
- 30:58here that is ongoing survey.
- 31:01Some of them are see they show
- 31:03increase of family harmony.
- 31:05Some show decrease how many
- 31:06some showed no change.
- 31:08So to follow up the question we want
- 31:10to see what may associate with each
- 31:13of the change we follow up with a
- 31:16qualitative study to do an individual
- 31:18interview on teens and parents.
- 31:22This line of study are performed
- 31:24by Allen and also maxou.
- 31:26Let me introduce Max.
- 31:27Max is our youngest chat together member.
- 31:30He is the Senior High School
- 31:33student from Choke Rosemary Hall.
- 31:35So together Max another member.
- 31:36We are interviewing the
- 31:38teens and parents here,
- 31:40so some of these are really
- 31:42preliminary data that we analyze.
- 31:44But we help us to guide our further
- 31:47future direction on where to look at.
- 31:50So when we asked participants about fat.
- 31:53Family harmony means to them during covid.
- 31:57They were able to identify that
- 32:00they were able to gain a new
- 32:03sense of agency with their family.
- 32:06They spend more time together
- 32:08feeling that staying safe from Covid,
- 32:11the unspoken care and peace and quiet.
- 32:14Those are the terms that they
- 32:17identify for family harmony.
- 32:19And as we are talking about cross cultural,
- 32:23family, people identify communication,
- 32:24language barrier, both verbal and nonverbal.
- 32:27Mean a lot to them and also lack of
- 32:31expressing feeling so many of the
- 32:34teens wish they could have a better
- 32:37conversation with their parents,
- 32:40with more talking about their feelings
- 32:42and interesting Lee about the conflict,
- 32:45we asked some of the participants to
- 32:47bring in an object that can symbolize
- 32:51what family harmony during COVID-19
- 32:53this particular participant bring in
- 32:56bubble wrap the package bubble wrap.
- 32:59To represent if you don't touch them,
- 33:02nothing happened.
- 33:02If you do a pop and explode,
- 33:05so there's some.
- 33:06They identify the boundary issue that some
- 33:09amplify some pre-existing issue there,
- 33:12so this is like some data.
- 33:14So far we gather, so stay tuned.
- 33:17We'll be able to show more
- 33:19results and conclusion later on.
- 33:21Now we also have our peer support
- 33:24arm some chat together member
- 33:26and I serve as a consultant.
- 33:29And peer support through the New Haven
- 33:32local community will collaborate with
- 33:35Yell China Department of Public Health
- 33:38starting pretty much since March this year.
- 33:41So this is one of the event we had
- 33:45for Asian and Asian American students.
- 33:48Don't let fear be contagious for
- 33:51covid event and we also have more
- 33:54event collaboration with China.
- 33:57Yellow Asian American Cultural Center,
- 33:59particularly for Asian
- 34:01international community.
- 34:02And address the anti Asian
- 34:04discrimination during Covid and in
- 34:07fact next week I'm holding another event
- 34:10for Chinese international student at Yale
- 34:13for for the reopening for 4th semester.
- 34:16One thing that I learn. We have a very
- 34:21unique population here in New Haven.
- 34:24The Asian International community,
- 34:26in which they really experience covid twice.
- 34:29One when they had the family back in in
- 34:34China. They have experienced kovid and
- 34:36they also have another covert experience.
- 34:38When I went to Spike in US all of the time,
- 34:42they were separated from family
- 34:44and they were also several.
- 34:46Alot of visa issue.
- 34:48They were forced to go back home or did
- 34:51decide to stay in the US and even if
- 34:54they decide to go back home now they're
- 34:57taking their online classes like 2:00 AM
- 35:00in the morning so so they really suffer
- 35:04a really unique set of vulnerability there.
- 35:07So Lastly,
- 35:08we have a collaboration arm.
- 35:11I am call collaborating with
- 35:13this gentleman here.
- 35:15His name is Jeremy Hunt who is a
- 35:18filmmaker in Hong Kong but also
- 35:22a yellow China Exchange Fellow.
- 35:24So here and I collaborate
- 35:27on a really cool project.
- 35:30We try to look at digital storytelling
- 35:33from school age teens to report.
- 35:36Express the pandemic experiences so when we
- 35:40create high school teens between 13 to 18,
- 35:43about 70 of them,
- 35:45they mostly are from Hong Kong
- 35:48and New Haven public school,
- 35:50but they also we also expand to
- 35:53other countries as well so we have
- 35:56them write a story on daily routine.
- 36:00During COVID-19 we breakdown the
- 36:02story into a small component
- 36:04an with Jeremy filmmaking.
- 36:06Variance he teach them how to create a
- 36:09corresponding shot to describe the story,
- 36:11then editing the video and have them put
- 36:14them on the log of the written essay there.
- 36:17So the goal of this project is
- 36:19to really how to how to help the
- 36:22children use the camera lens to
- 36:25show the view of the kovit world,
- 36:27and as you view from the video
- 36:29in which I will show you guys,
- 36:32as you view the video,
- 36:34you would go into the child's mind
- 36:36and how to see the view discover.
- 36:39Well there an my role would be
- 36:42helping them for self reflection.
- 36:45How did creating and showing the
- 36:48film would affect the way how
- 36:50they see the pandemic?
- 36:52Some of the respond here said it felt
- 36:55more we leaving since you get to tell
- 36:58people about certain issues encountered,
- 37:01another was spun.
- 37:02It prompt me to keep asking myself what
- 37:05makes life interesting while staying at home.
- 37:08I guess we're all asking this
- 37:11question to other respond.
- 37:12This is the people make up humanity.
- 37:15In society,
- 37:16we should be grateful for
- 37:18everything in our life,
- 37:20even the little thing.
- 37:22Now the second part of this project
- 37:25is to have the Hong Kong student
- 37:28and then New Haven student to swap
- 37:30the video and trying to mental
- 37:33eyes of each other video.
- 37:34What is that person is going
- 37:37through during COVID-19?
- 37:38Now keep in mind that this
- 37:40student they don't know
- 37:42each other. They're growing up
- 37:44in a very different places.
- 37:46Perhaps they speak English,
- 37:48but they may be like talking
- 37:50different native language,
- 37:51eating different type of food.
- 37:53You know, you know very different background.
- 37:57We are going to help them to
- 37:59have a we flip here reflection
- 38:01there in the way to train them
- 38:03to have this foster this idea.
- 38:06Intercultural empathy.
- 38:06So we go going to ask them how do
- 38:10you think the film makers feeling
- 38:13when they're making the movie?
- 38:15Some of the response at Happy
- 38:18content she is trying to show
- 38:20that regardless of location,
- 38:21this is still lucky to have a
- 38:24wide range of activity to do and
- 38:27a loving family to support her.
- 38:30Another respond sad about what
- 38:32is happening to people,
- 38:34how everything has changes, so little time.
- 38:38Sad, but not all.
- 38:40There is so much commotion revolving
- 38:42around lockdown that we tend to forget
- 38:45the little thing and be grateful for them.
- 38:48So this other respond and I want
- 38:51to take the chance to show some
- 38:54of these wonderful video here.
- 38:56K.
- 39:02OK, so this is created by the New Haven
- 39:05student. I be home school experience.
- 39:10Alright, so my whole school experience.
- 39:13Even sleep in a mic.
- 39:15I get up around 8:00 or 9 depending
- 39:17how I'm feeling then asserted day,
- 39:20but brushing my teeth and make sure
- 39:22things clean. Attica 15 minutes.
- 39:24Running my brother then minutes as
- 39:27I get home I take a deep shower.
- 39:30Once I'm done with everything after
- 39:32working on a school assignment that
- 39:35sometimes include zoom meetings.
- 39:37This takes 3 hours depending
- 39:39on which classes I have.
- 39:40If I have mouth, it takes 2 hours
- 39:43or less because I love my wife.
- 39:46A few moments later.
- 39:49It's hard to believe how much things
- 39:52have changed since the pandemic
- 39:55has opened many people's eyes.
- 39:57Many, including myself, have rulers.
- 40:00How? O we were grateful to the
- 40:02little things in our lives.
- 40:05Anti socials are missing the crowds.
- 40:07The students are missing the schools
- 40:10they used to complain about every day.
- 40:13Some are even saying maybe it was worth it
- 40:18waking up in the morning 'cause the bus.
- 40:21Many people are craving
- 40:23to come back to society.
- 40:25Is the crowd the festivals?
- 40:26The concerns determine spent to hang
- 40:29out with your friends at the mall.
- 40:32It's the people.
- 40:34They make up humanity in society.
- 40:38Of harnessed Lee learned a
- 40:40lot during this intense time,
- 40:42but most importantly African,
- 40:44that we should always be grateful
- 40:46for everything in our lives,
- 40:48even the little things the loves.
- 40:50Every vent your counter, your freedom,
- 40:52your health trees family.
- 40:54I mean everything,
- 40:55because everything has his hand.
- 41:04OK, so the second video
- 41:06is created by Donovan.
- 41:08He is a student from Hong Kong.
- 41:11My daily routine just pay up.
- 41:14Pay attention.
- 41:15Donovan intentionally change
- 41:16his voice and the video.
- 41:18Perhaps some defense mechanism will see.
- 41:23When I'm done then I'll just tell
- 41:25you what I usually do during Clinton.
- 41:28I live in apartment in Happy Valley.
- 41:30I love my parents.
- 41:31Another system I enjoyed the lock down
- 41:34for the first month and I'm just bored.
- 41:36Days of Week 613 Live past seven.
- 41:40So I have around 20
- 41:42minutes to prepare myself.
- 41:44I change my clothes,
- 41:46brush my teeth and eat some breakfast.
- 41:50My dad would drive me to school
- 41:53and I would have lessons as usual,
- 41:57then at break and lunch
- 41:59I'll go play football field,
- 42:02my friends and after pad 5 I'll go home.
- 42:08I need three sets in secondaries.
- 42:11It's all changed.
- 42:18Can you delete? Those are usually wake up
- 42:21at 8:10 and would get on my laptop and
- 42:24then my bed and wait till class starts.
- 42:28After two time I get finally get on my
- 42:31bed and brush my teeth and eat some toast.
- 42:41Right after school I would have
- 42:43soon after school classes that user
- 42:46and find Cape Town application.
- 42:50I'm a weekend out with an island 10:30.
- 42:53Fun Saturday without my piano lessons
- 42:56at 2:30 for one hour and at 6:30
- 42:59out on Michelle lesson till 7:30.
- 43:01Then I would spend my Sundays
- 43:05in bed on my phone.
- 43:08Those kind of hard keep tracking
- 43:09of all the homework and make sure
- 43:11everything was handed in after
- 43:13I've been able to adjust the online
- 43:15schooling was pretty relaxing.
- 43:16A lot of people say that they
- 43:18wanted to go back to school,
- 43:20but I do miss my friends.
- 43:22I wouldn't mind having them on line
- 43:24class for another month or two,
- 43:25so hopefully there will be no
- 43:27more cases under lockdown will be
- 43:29lifted so that we can go back to
- 43:31our normal walk through teams.
- 43:36What is the song keep playing?
- 43:42OK, so those are the video.
- 43:47Let's go back to the slide.
- 43:54Alright, so in summary chat
- 43:57together we are bridging the gaps.
- 44:01We are approaching the child parents
- 44:04operative gap in minority family.
- 44:06We are bridging the gaps that are amplified
- 44:11by COVID-19 as we are using this kit to,
- 44:14you know talk about a lot of the issue during
- 44:18COVID-19 Black Live Matters LGBTQ Anmore.
- 44:22Those are many issue that amplify
- 44:25during COVID-19 we are bridging
- 44:28the gap across the globe.
- 44:30We had planned to expand on the
- 44:34digitized storytelling program there.
- 44:36Now, instead of dividing shaming to
- 44:39address our differences, chat together,
- 44:42Pomo intercultural empathy as a way
- 44:45to respect and embrace each other's
- 44:48uniqueness through words scared and images.
- 44:51This is also a program unique in a way that
- 44:56we incorporate our action where we can cope.
- 45:01And we construct unspoken trauma among us.
- 45:05Now, this is some future vision that we have.
- 45:10We want to educate,
- 45:12intercultural empathy,
- 45:14anti prejudice, anti racism,
- 45:16through chat together interactive theater.
- 45:18We want to expand this model to medical
- 45:22education for the next generation of
- 45:25doctors including medical student trainees,
- 45:29an clinicians.
- 45:30This could be a community outreach
- 45:33program for school educator parents.
- 45:36And school age children now think about
- 45:39how we want to sustain this organization.
- 45:42Expanding from Co-op style to potential
- 45:45fundraising campaign school based
- 45:47fund and non profit organisations.
- 45:50So these are some future vision that we have.
- 45:55And Lastly,
- 45:56I want to acknowledge and thank you everyone.
- 45:59This is a growing list of chat
- 46:02together family that we're getting so
- 46:04close together throughout this time.
- 46:07Perhaps because of the Co-op organization
- 46:09we are all leaders, doers and thinkers.
- 46:12We keep expanding and we invite
- 46:15everyone here.
- 46:16If you'd like to join us to know
- 46:19more about it we all y'all.
- 46:22Welcome as I introduce along the talk.
- 46:26We have Allen, Griffey, Herman, Hannah,
- 46:29Cara, Max Michel, nearly Ramey, Vanessa.
- 46:33We are all located at different parts of
- 46:38the state and also internationally too.
- 46:43We want to say a big thank you
- 46:47for all the chat together,
- 46:50advisor from the Solar Integrated Program.
- 46:53It gives me so much support, encouragement,
- 46:56believe and seeing me beyond myself.
- 46:59Thank you all, doctor, Andre Martin,
- 47:02Janet Madigan, Michael Caplan,
- 47:04Dorothy stupid microblog,
- 47:06James Blackmon,
- 47:07Baltra bar and also to external
- 47:10advisor from Stanford.
- 47:11Doctor Steve Sadan Doctor Rona Hill.
- 47:14In which they started a vignette
- 47:17program and Stanford and really
- 47:19helped me to bring this model and
- 47:22expand even bigger in the East Coast.
- 47:24So thank you all for that and we
- 47:27have chat together collaborators.
- 47:29As I mentioned from Stanford Jeremy Hunt,
- 47:32who did the digital Storytelling store
- 47:35program and also Jessica Hanief from Yale,
- 47:37China collaboration.
- 47:38Juliana E.
- 47:39Who is the director of Yell
- 47:41Asian American Cultural Center.
- 47:43We have a lot of Wellness program.
- 47:46For the Asian American student,
- 47:48there, Libby Pier director of
- 47:50Health and Wellness from choke,
- 47:51and we have a lot of trucks
- 47:54Tilden on this talk as well.
- 47:56So welcome,
- 47:57thank you all for joining and we are
- 48:00going to have another event
- 48:02in choking next month.
- 48:03Magazine who is the medical director
- 48:05from the Ape EMS Association.
- 48:08So we are going to expand and have a
- 48:10talk at the annual apem submitting
- 48:13their expanding that to medical student.
- 48:16We have the funding support from Appa,
- 48:19Samsung Minority Fellowship and
- 48:22the Yellow Flex Fund. And Lastly,
- 48:25compassion at home action together,
- 48:28the home also refer to our
- 48:31Child study Center.
- 48:32This is a home for many leaders,
- 48:36clinicians, students and trainees,
- 48:38including myself as a family member.
- 48:41I am calling for action.
- 48:44This is an education outreach program
- 48:47that help us to learn from each other,
- 48:50no matter who we are, how we look.
- 48:53We can have a way to learn from each other.
- 48:58If you have any skit, ideas,
- 49:00translation, language translation,
- 49:01outreach opportunity, let us know.
- 49:03Scan us here. This is the QR code.
- 49:06Check out our social media.
- 49:08We have all this get posted there.
- 49:11Thank you all for your attention.