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Pathology Grand Rounds: May 18, 2023 - Jian Jin PhD

May 18, 2023
  • 00:00So my name is Qingyan.
  • 00:02It's my great pleasure to
  • 00:04introduce our ground on speaker,
  • 00:06Doctor Chen Jin from Mountain Sinai.
  • 00:09Doctor Chen Jin currently is a Mountain
  • 00:12Sinai endowed Professor in Therapeutic
  • 00:14Discovery and he also direct the
  • 00:17Center for Therapeutic Discovery.
  • 00:19He's also a Co Leader of Cancer
  • 00:23Clinical Investigation program
  • 00:24for Tisch Cancer Institute,
  • 00:26which is an NCI designated cancer.
  • 00:31The microphone is on.
  • 00:38It's on. It is on.
  • 00:42Maybe I need to be closer. OK. OK.
  • 00:46So I think I just skipped that part.
  • 00:49Now I just want to give you
  • 00:52some background of Doc Tianjin.
  • 00:54Doc Tianjin received his best
  • 00:56degree from the University of
  • 00:58Science and Technology of China.
  • 01:00Which is one of the best universities
  • 01:02in China because I also went there too.
  • 01:06And then he did his PhD training
  • 01:09at the Penn State and did a
  • 01:11one year postal in Ohio State.
  • 01:13Then he was recruited to GSK.
  • 01:16He stayed there for 10 years before he
  • 01:20was recruited by UNC in 2008 as a social
  • 01:24professor And then 24 to 14 he moved to.
  • 01:29Mountain Sinai as a as a full professor
  • 01:33and he stayed there since and he has
  • 01:36country or not and he's initially
  • 01:38with his discovery in epigenetic drug
  • 01:41discovery and more recently he's
  • 01:43more interested in doing degraders.
  • 01:47He has published more than 200 papers
  • 01:50and have more than 70 pattern.
  • 01:53Pattern.
  • 01:55And he has advanced 5 compounds
  • 01:58to clinical trials and one of them
  • 02:01it's has been FD has been approved
  • 02:04by in the US and Japan.
  • 02:07This is a drug called the Dapro to stat
  • 02:10Hypoxo inducible factor polyhydrosis
  • 02:13inhibitor for treating anemia.
  • 02:17He's well funded 50 ones and
  • 02:19many other grants and he couldn't
  • 02:22count how many counts he has.
  • 02:24And he is also currently a member
  • 02:29of Dem PB study section for NIH,
  • 02:33and he's also a cofounder of a degree
  • 02:37the company called the Cogen and
  • 02:40he has been inactive to National
  • 02:42Academy of Inventors in 2022.
  • 02:46He's going to tell us about his
  • 02:48discovery of Nova degraders and
  • 02:50development of new approaches to
  • 02:53target undrugable proteins today.
  • 02:54And without further ado,
  • 02:56please join me to welcome Dr.
  • 02:57Tianjin.
  • 02:58All
  • 03:08right, So I hope everybody
  • 03:09can hear me. OK, bye.
  • 03:14OK, Getting closer. Better. OK. All right.
  • 03:18So I'm gonna try to use my cursor here, so.
  • 03:22People on the zoom can actually see the
  • 03:25arrow here and what I'm pointing to.
  • 03:29Thank you very much team for very
  • 03:33generous introduction and for inviting
  • 03:36me and delighted to be here and and so
  • 03:40very much enjoyed talking to everybody
  • 03:42so far and pretty much look very much
  • 03:45look forward to the rest of the day.
  • 03:47So I'm going to try to be a a rock
  • 03:50star today. Wearing the dark glasses.
  • 03:54But seriously, my eyes are a
  • 03:57little bit sensitive to the light
  • 03:59and so dark glasses help.
  • 04:01Hopefully this is okay with everybody.
  • 04:04So it's my great pleasure,
  • 04:06a pleasure to talk about my laps,
  • 04:11recent progress on discovering
  • 04:13of novel degraders,
  • 04:15and development of new approaches to Target.
  • 04:19And drug bar proteins.
  • 04:28So I may need a on the outside,
  • 04:33not quite sure. Click on the sitting
  • 04:36area here, Okay. All right. Thank you.
  • 04:43So here's my conflict interest
  • 04:46disclosure as Jim mentioned.
  • 04:48I am a cofounder of Cogin,
  • 04:51a San Diego based biotech which is
  • 04:55dedicated to developing normal degraders.
  • 05:00So as some of you may know,
  • 05:03my my labs have taken a target class
  • 05:06approach to generating selective
  • 05:08inhibitors of histomestal transferases,
  • 05:11HM T's, for well over a decade.
  • 05:16In collaboration with the Structure
  • 05:18Genuine Consortium SGC Toronto,
  • 05:20we have discovered a number of
  • 05:24novel and selective HMT inhibitors,
  • 05:28some of which have been widely used
  • 05:31by research community such as the G9A
  • 05:35GLP inhibitors UNC638 and UNC642,
  • 05:38the easy issue inhibitor UNC1999
  • 05:42and the type 1:00 PM T.
  • 05:45Inhibitor MS-23,
  • 05:47so I will not talk about them today.
  • 05:52Since 2014, my lab has also been
  • 05:56active in discovering novel small
  • 05:59molecule degraders including
  • 06:02Protex for oncogenic proteins.
  • 06:05For some of you who are less familiar
  • 06:07with the field with this field,
  • 06:10Protag which stands for
  • 06:12protelysis targeting Chimera.
  • 06:14Is a hydro a hydro bifunctional small
  • 06:17molecule with one end that binds
  • 06:21to ESV light upicane ligas and the
  • 06:24other moiety binds to the protein of
  • 06:27interest by simultaneously binding
  • 06:31the the ESV ligas and protein of
  • 06:36interest protax induce our brains.
  • 06:39The the E3 ligas into close proximity
  • 06:43of the protein of interest,
  • 06:45leading to selective Poly recognition
  • 06:48of the protein of interest and its
  • 06:51subsequent degradation at a proton.
  • 06:56Since the protect concept was first
  • 07:00reported by Craig Kuz and Radisha in 2001,
  • 07:05numerous significant advancements.
  • 07:08Have been made in this field,
  • 07:11some of which are highlighted here
  • 07:13and summarized in this review article.
  • 07:17In particularly,
  • 07:20this field have seen explosive
  • 07:23growth over lot 8 years and
  • 07:28more than 20 protests have been
  • 07:30advanced to clinical development
  • 07:35so since 2014.
  • 07:37My lab has discovered normal degraders
  • 07:40of epigenetic targets such as WDR 5 is,
  • 07:44H2, PMT 5, NSD 3, NSD 2:00 PM, PRC one.
  • 07:50We have also developed novel degraders for
  • 07:54other oncogenic proteins such as kinases AKT,
  • 07:58CDK 46, EGFR, Mac, and ALK.
  • 08:05In addition, we have developed a
  • 08:08number of new technologies for
  • 08:10advancing the target degradation,
  • 08:13target protein degradation field.
  • 08:15So today I will talk about our WDR
  • 08:195 and they should the greater work.
  • 08:22First to give you a flavor for our
  • 08:26protect discovery effort followed by
  • 08:28the new technologies we have developed
  • 08:31to target and drug ball proteins.
  • 08:37So our WDR 5 degree
  • 08:41work was done in collaboration with
  • 08:44Greg One's lab at University of
  • 08:47North Carolina at Chapel Hill and
  • 08:49a new Agua's lab at Mount Sinai.
  • 08:52So this work was spearheaded by three
  • 08:55extremely talented young scientists.
  • 08:57She Feng Yun, She's a former.
  • 09:01Instructor in my lab.
  • 09:03She's currently have independent Pi
  • 09:05position in Fudan University in China
  • 09:09and don't really a former post out in
  • 09:12Greg Von's lab and Jatish Contour.
  • 09:17He is a former joint post out in
  • 09:19a news lab and my lab is currently
  • 09:22a senior post out in a news lab.
  • 09:25So why do we want to develop a
  • 09:28WDR 5 degrader?
  • 09:30And WDR 5 is an important UNCLE protein,
  • 09:34but it is not an enzyme so it is
  • 09:39a important scaffolding protein
  • 09:42and acts as a functional subunit
  • 09:45of MML mesotransferase complex.
  • 09:48WDR 5 is critical for a 3K four
  • 09:53methylation SL as well as MML complex
  • 09:56mediated regulation of gene transcription.
  • 10:00WDR Five also interacts with CIMIC.
  • 10:03The interactions between WDR 5 and
  • 10:06its binding partners are essential
  • 10:09for sustained oncogenesis in MML
  • 10:12range leukemia and in solid tumors
  • 10:15such as pancreatic, pancreatic,
  • 10:18ductal adenocarcinoma pedac,
  • 10:21a number of small molecule inhibitors
  • 10:24that blocks the protein protein actions
  • 10:26between WDR 5 and its binding partners.
  • 10:29Have been developed.
  • 10:31However,
  • 10:32this WDR 5 PPI inhibitors exhibit
  • 10:37modest cancer cell killing effect
  • 10:39and the lack in vivo efficacy.
  • 10:42Likely due to this PPI inhibitors
  • 10:46block only some but not all of
  • 10:49WDR five's on cogenic functions,
  • 10:52so we therefore pursuit
  • 10:55pharmacological degradation of WDR 5.
  • 10:58As a novel therapeutic strategy for
  • 11:01treating WDR 5 dependent tumors,
  • 11:06So we used O ICR 9429 as the WDR
  • 11:115 binder because O ICR is the
  • 11:14best known WDR 5 PPI inhibitor,
  • 11:18which is highly potent and selective
  • 11:21for WDR 5 O ICR was previously
  • 11:24developed by Raymond Olivar's lab at.
  • 11:27The Ontario Institute for Cancer Research
  • 11:29has the name of OICR in collaboration
  • 11:33with Structured Genuine Consortium.
  • 11:36Based on the crystal structure
  • 11:38of the WDR 5 OICR binary complex,
  • 11:41we identified A solving exposed
  • 11:45region shown here and design,
  • 11:48synthesize and evaluate a initial set
  • 11:52of compounds which contain various
  • 11:54linkers and E 3 legacy ligans.
  • 11:57From this study,
  • 11:58we identified MS33 as the initial
  • 12:02lead which contained this relatively
  • 12:05relatively long linker and this
  • 12:08classic Wehl 1 Wehl ligand.
  • 12:14So we solved a high resolution crystal
  • 12:17structure of WDR Five MS33 and Wehl Elongan,
  • 12:22see Elongan B VCB ternary complex.
  • 12:25Which is the first crystal
  • 12:27structure of any WDR 5 protect
  • 12:30history Ligus ternary complexes.
  • 12:33So as illustrated here,
  • 12:35the linker of MS33 was relatively
  • 12:42extended in the ternary structure in
  • 12:47the ternary complex and MS33 induced
  • 12:51limited protein protein interactions.
  • 12:54Between WDR 5 and Wedgel.
  • 12:57So based on this critical
  • 13:00structure insights, we design,
  • 13:01synthesize and evaluate another set of
  • 13:04compounds which contain much shorter
  • 13:08linker linkers and simultaneously
  • 13:11enhanced bonding to both WDR 5 and Wedgel.
  • 13:16So from this study we identified
  • 13:20MS-67-A highly effective WDR 5 degrader.
  • 13:24Which contain this very very short
  • 13:27linker and this modified WDR 5 binder
  • 13:31and this mesolated VHL ligand.
  • 13:34We also developed MS-67N as a negative
  • 13:40control of MS-67 which contain the
  • 13:45identical WDR 5 binder and the linker
  • 13:48for the dyster isomer of the VHL ligand.
  • 13:51Which abolishes the binding to VHL.
  • 13:55So we also saw the high revolution
  • 13:58crystal structure of WDR 5MS67 and VCB
  • 14:02ternary complex which confirmed MS-67
  • 14:07induced much more extensive protein
  • 14:10protein interactions between WDR 5 and
  • 14:14VHL and enhanced binding productivity.
  • 14:19The enhanced binding correctivity
  • 14:21between WDR 5 and which L induced
  • 14:24by 67 was also confirmed using
  • 14:28isothermal titration calorimetry
  • 14:32and 67 but no not O ICR or 67 N
  • 14:36totally and a selectively degraded
  • 14:38WDR 5 in number of MML range range,
  • 14:43leukemia cell lines and
  • 14:44impedex cell lines in a time.
  • 14:49VHL natilation and prezone dependent manner
  • 14:5567 but not OSCR or 67 N effectively
  • 15:00suppressed transcription of WDR 5 regularly.
  • 15:03Genes in RN6 studies and effect
  • 15:07of 67 significantly overlapped
  • 15:09with that of WDR 5 knockdown
  • 15:1467 but not OSCR or 67 N.
  • 15:17Effectively reduced chromatin bonds,
  • 15:20CMIC and MML complex components
  • 15:24and 67 but not 67 N decreased H3K4
  • 15:30dimethylation in both Western Black
  • 15:32analysis and in Chipsique studies.
  • 15:37Phenotypically 67 but not OACR
  • 15:41or 67 N effectively suppressed
  • 15:44in vitro cell growth and.
  • 15:47Induced cell cycle arrest and
  • 15:49apoptosis in number of MML range
  • 15:52leukemia cell lines as illustrated
  • 15:54here and also in PDEX cell lines and
  • 15:58not showing here and importantly 67
  • 16:02but not OACR significantly inhibit
  • 16:05tumor tumor growth in vivo and
  • 16:09improved survival in multiple in
  • 16:12vivo mouse models including this.
  • 16:15MML re enriched AML PDX model
  • 16:19even though the much higher drug
  • 16:22levels were achieved for OICR
  • 16:25than 67 in tumor samples.
  • 16:28We also established PKPD relationship
  • 16:31for MS-67 for this in vivo models
  • 16:36and Greg Moss lab and my
  • 16:39lab also discovered MS-40.
  • 16:41A novel CRBN recruiting WDR 5
  • 16:45degrader which effectively degraded
  • 16:48WDR five in a concentration time
  • 16:52CRBN and UPS dependent manner.
  • 16:57Interestingly we find using a mass back
  • 17:01based global proteomic studies we find MS-40.
  • 17:07Can effectively degrade not
  • 17:09only WDR 5 but also IKZF one,
  • 17:13which is the CRB and new substrate.
  • 17:15We subsequently confirmed using Western
  • 17:18Black analysis that MS-40 and effectively
  • 17:22indeed effectively degraded CRB and
  • 17:26new substrate IKZF one and three,
  • 17:28but not GSPT one in addition to WDR 5.
  • 17:34So next we developed 2 control compounds.
  • 17:38MS-40 and TWO which effectively
  • 17:41degraded IKZF ONE and Three but not
  • 17:45WDR 5 and MS169 which degraded WDR Five
  • 17:50with a similar potency as MS-40 but
  • 17:54did not degrade IKZF ONE and Three.
  • 17:57Interestingly,
  • 17:58we find MS-40 which degrade both WDR
  • 18:025 and IKZF 1/3 was more effective.
  • 18:07In suppressing the proliferation
  • 18:09of MML range leukemia cells,
  • 18:11then MS-40 and TWO alone,
  • 18:15which degraded IKZF 1 THREE only, ALL,
  • 18:20MS169 alone which degraded WDR five only,
  • 18:25and as expected,
  • 18:27the cold treatment of MS-40 and TWO and
  • 18:31MS169 displaced similar effectness as MS-40.
  • 18:36So in addition,
  • 18:39IMS 40 but not 40 and two all 169
  • 18:43significantly inhibit tumor growth in vivo.
  • 18:46Even though all three compounds were similar,
  • 18:50drug levels were achieved
  • 18:52for all three compounds.
  • 18:54So taken together,
  • 18:56this results suggest pharmacological
  • 18:59degradation of a WD R5 as a
  • 19:02novel serial pedic strategy.
  • 19:04Is superior to pharmacologic logical
  • 19:07inhibition of protein protein
  • 19:09actions between WDR 5 and its
  • 19:12binding partners for treating WDR 5.
  • 19:14Dependent tumors do degradation of
  • 19:18WDR 5 and IKZF 1/3 and could be more
  • 19:22effective than degradation of WDR
  • 19:245 or IKZF 1/3 alone in suppressing
  • 19:27the proliferation of MML rearranged
  • 19:31leukemia in vitro and in vivo.
  • 19:33Another key take away from this study
  • 19:36is the ternary complex structure
  • 19:39based design which is extremely where
  • 19:42in the protect field is a powerful
  • 19:45approach and can lead to highly
  • 19:47effective protect degradation and
  • 19:50lastly the degradation of CRBN new
  • 19:53substrates by CRBN recruiting protects
  • 19:56needs to be monitored very carefully.
  • 20:00And such NEO, St.
  • 20:01neo St.
  • 20:02degradation could potentially be
  • 20:05exploited to yield more effective
  • 20:07anti cancer therapeutics.
  • 20:11So now I'm going to talk about
  • 20:13discovery of easy two inhibition.
  • 20:15So canonically easy two is the
  • 20:18main catalyst subunit of Hollycomb
  • 20:21repressive complex 2P R C2 which
  • 20:24catalyzes A3K27 trimethylation
  • 20:27and mediating gene repression.
  • 20:30An easy issue is overexpressed
  • 20:32in many cancers including TNB or
  • 20:34triple negative breast cancer.
  • 20:36TNBC and it's a high expression level,
  • 20:40correlates with the poor prognosis and
  • 20:44knocked out easy issue effectively
  • 20:47inhibit the growth of breast cancer cells,
  • 20:51including TNBC cells. However,
  • 20:53all easy issue inhibits are ineffective.
  • 20:57In suppressing the provision of TNBC
  • 21:00cells even though they effectively
  • 21:04reduced H3K27 trimesolation mark,
  • 21:07we therefore pursued development of
  • 21:09easy shoot degraders to Pheno copy anti
  • 21:13tumor effect of easy to knock down.
  • 21:19So in collaboration with Roman
  • 21:20Parsons Lab at Mount Sinai,
  • 21:22we discovered the first easy
  • 21:25shoot selective degrader.
  • 21:27MS1943 So this project
  • 21:29was spearheaded by Anjima,
  • 21:32a former poster in my lab
  • 21:34alias a former poster in Ramon
  • 21:36Parsons lab and Kwongsu park
  • 21:38instructor in my lab currently.
  • 21:44So in in contrast to the WDR 5 protax
  • 21:48degraders I just talked about it,
  • 21:51MS1943 is not a protag.
  • 21:54Is the hydrophobic tag based
  • 21:57degrader which links a selective
  • 22:01easy issue. Remember with this bulky
  • 22:05hydrophobic hydrophobic elementing group.
  • 22:09OK and as illustrated here MS1943 is
  • 22:13highly selective for easy issue and
  • 22:16some of you probably know Craig Ku.
  • 22:19Craig Kus is also a pioneer of.
  • 22:23The hydrophobic tag based degrader approach.
  • 22:27His lab published the first hydrophobic
  • 22:31tag tag based small molecule degraders
  • 22:35of helo tag fusion proteins in
  • 22:38Nature Chemical Biology in 2011.
  • 22:42So back to EH2M S 1943 an effectively
  • 22:48degraded EH2IN multiple TMPC
  • 22:50cell lines as illustrate here.
  • 22:53And in contrast,
  • 22:55two is issue inhibitors which
  • 22:57were ineffective in inhibiting
  • 22:59the growth of TNBC cells.
  • 23:02Our issue DEGRADER MS1943 effectively
  • 23:05suppressed the growth of the growth
  • 23:09in multiple TNBC cell lines and 1943
  • 23:14was hourly by available in mice and in
  • 23:18TNBC cell line xenograph model 1943.
  • 23:22Significantly inhibit tumor growth
  • 23:24in vivo and had no effect on the on
  • 23:27the body weight of the treaty mice
  • 23:30with PKPD relationship established.
  • 23:34So recently our collaborator Greg Wong's lab,
  • 23:37Greg Wong at University of North
  • 23:41Carolina at Chapel Hill and his
  • 23:43post out June Wong discovered his
  • 23:46issue have a novel non canonical
  • 23:48function in activation of uncle genes.
  • 23:51By binding CMIC and P300 through its
  • 23:57hidden transactivation domain and so
  • 24:01this non canonical oncogenic function
  • 24:05differs from the well known canonical
  • 24:09gene repression function of PRC two.
  • 24:13So to target both canonical and the non
  • 24:18canonical oncogenic function of is H2.
  • 24:20SharePoint used you know that in
  • 24:24collaboration with Gregg Von's
  • 24:26lab at UNC discovered MS177A.
  • 24:28Novel CRBN recruiting is H2
  • 24:32protect degrader which is highly
  • 24:33selected for is H2 as shown here
  • 24:39177 totally degraded is H2 in a
  • 24:44time CRBN and UPS dependent manner.
  • 24:49And 177 also totally degraded CMIC in a
  • 24:54Crbn easy shoe and UPS dependent manner
  • 24:59and phenotypically 177 totally inhibit
  • 25:02the proliferation of MML range look,
  • 25:06AML cell lines and primary patient cells.
  • 25:10It was much more effective than easy shoe
  • 25:15inhibitors in inhibiting the growth of.
  • 25:18The proliferation and the tumor tumor
  • 25:21genesis in MML ranged AML cells and
  • 25:26177 also effectively induced apoptosis
  • 25:30in an easy issue dependent manner.
  • 25:34And importantly 177 significantly inhibit
  • 25:38tumor growth in vivo and prolonged
  • 25:41survival in multiple in vivo mass models.
  • 25:45Including this MML ranged AML PDX model
  • 25:50with PKPD relationship established
  • 25:56so in collaboration using 177 Greg
  • 25:58Watts lab and my lab also and covered
  • 26:02a similar non canonical function
  • 26:04of easy issue in multiple myeloma,
  • 26:08an activation of uncle gene
  • 26:11where binding of cimic and P300.
  • 26:15Where Sue the hidden transactive
  • 26:18activation domain of EH2 and we show
  • 26:23MS177 can effectively target both
  • 26:26canonical and a non canonical function
  • 26:29of EH2 and inhibit the growth of multiple
  • 26:34myeloma cells in vitro and vivo.
  • 26:36So lastly using MS177.
  • 26:41Ling Tai's lab at University
  • 26:43of North Carolina Chapel Hill,
  • 26:45Greg Watts lab at UNC and my lab also
  • 26:48and discovered a novel non canonical
  • 26:51function of easy shoe in prostate cancer.
  • 26:55So easy shoe finds both AR and AR splice
  • 27:00wearing AR-7 ARV 7A constituently
  • 27:04active AR variants enriched in advanced
  • 27:08castration resistant prostate cancer.
  • 27:10Where the transactivation domain
  • 27:14promoting Uncle Genesis and Crpc
  • 27:18growth in mutual and in evil and we
  • 27:23show MS177 can effectively target
  • 27:27both canonical and non canonical
  • 27:30oncogenic functions of E day 2IN Crpc.
  • 27:39So the key, the key takeaways from
  • 27:42these studies are first pharmacological
  • 27:45degradation of the issue but not
  • 27:48pharmacological inhibition of the
  • 27:50issue could be a effective short
  • 27:53periodic strategy for treating TNBC,
  • 27:55MML range of leukemia, multiple
  • 27:58myeloma and advanced prostate cancer.
  • 28:02In addition to the another take
  • 28:04away from this from this studies is.
  • 28:07In addition to the protect technology,
  • 28:10the hydrophobic tag based approach
  • 28:12which have been understudied and
  • 28:15under appreciated by the field and can
  • 28:18lead to degraders that are already
  • 28:21by available and advocacious in EVO.
  • 28:24So well this degraders and this
  • 28:27technologies are very promising.
  • 28:32The conventional protect
  • 28:34approach cannot be utilized.
  • 28:36To target and drug work proteins,
  • 28:39which lack a small molecule binders
  • 28:42as a small molecule binder of the
  • 28:45target protein is needed for the
  • 28:48traditional protect approach to work.
  • 28:50So to target and drug work proteins
  • 28:55including transcription factors TFs,
  • 28:57we developed two novel approaches,
  • 29:00First bridge protect,
  • 29:02second TF protect and TF Dub tag.
  • 29:06So now I'm going to talk
  • 29:08about these two approaches.
  • 29:11So we hypothesized and drug
  • 29:13war proteins which lack
  • 29:17lacks a small worker binders could be
  • 29:21targeted by breached protect if this
  • 29:25and drug war protein interacts with
  • 29:28another protein termed bridge protein,
  • 29:31which have has a small molecule binder.
  • 29:35So by exploiting this bridge protein
  • 29:38we're linking a small molecule binder
  • 29:41of this bridge protein to a ES3 ligas
  • 29:45ligand with appropriate link link linker
  • 29:48bridge protein and induces close proximity
  • 29:52between the ubiquitin machinery and to
  • 29:56this and drug protein bridge protein
  • 29:59complex and could lead to a selective.
  • 30:03Of polyclination,
  • 30:04of preferential polyblination and degradation
  • 30:08of this and drug protein over bridge protein.
  • 30:14OK, so we selected cycling D1 as the
  • 30:18first target for this bridge protect
  • 30:22approach for the following reasons.
  • 30:25So the first second D1 is the
  • 30:29talk cancer drug target ranked by.
  • 30:33Damat however,
  • 30:34it is end druggable as it's lack
  • 30:37a small molecule binder.
  • 30:40Second,
  • 30:40it's well known second D one former
  • 30:44protein complex with CD46 and
  • 30:47highly potent and selective CD46
  • 30:49inhibitors have been developed.
  • 30:52So by testing all of our CD46 cortex,
  • 30:57we identified MS-28 as the first.
  • 31:01Which protect of cycling D1 which
  • 31:05contain this Hubble site clip as
  • 31:09a CDK 46 binder linked to a Wechao
  • 31:13ligan where a short linker.
  • 31:15So this work was spearheaded by Yang
  • 31:19Xun assistant professor in my lab and
  • 31:22we are June and Leah Leah Rin and both.
  • 31:26Both of them are PhD student in the lab.
  • 31:28So Yan did most of the country
  • 31:31work and you and Leah did all the
  • 31:34biological studies for for this work.
  • 31:40So MS-28 for for gradually degrade
  • 31:44cycling D1 over CDK four and CD
  • 31:48CD6 and did not change MRA level
  • 31:52of cycling D1, CDK 4 and CD6.
  • 31:57The cycling D1 degradation induced
  • 32:00by MS-28IS dependent on VHL,
  • 32:04CDK 6 and UPS and MS-28
  • 32:09can induce cycling D1,
  • 32:13CDK 6MS28 and VHL quanary complex formation
  • 32:21and our cycling D1 the greater MS-28.
  • 32:24Is a superior to the the parent CDK
  • 32:2846 inhibitor PABO cyclip and known
  • 32:32CDK 46 degrader BSJ which degree CDK
  • 32:3746 but not cyclin B1 in suppressing
  • 32:41the proliferation in multiple non
  • 32:44small cell lung cancer cell lines.
  • 32:47We also applied this rich cortex strategy.
  • 32:52To target PRC One components
  • 32:55of PMI One and Room 1B, well,
  • 32:58the EED is the core component of PRC 2.
  • 33:03EED also interacts with PRC One components,
  • 33:07PMI one and Room 1B.
  • 33:09So we aimed to develop a EED binding
  • 33:14protect that can preferentially degrade
  • 33:17PMI One and Room 1B over EED indeed.
  • 33:22We discovered MS147 and the
  • 33:27first P RC1 bridge protect,
  • 33:30which is the way child recruiting
  • 33:34and EE D binding protect.
  • 33:37So this work was spearheaded by Kwansu Park,
  • 33:40an instructor in the lab,
  • 33:42and Lee Hui Chin,
  • 33:43a former post out in the lab and MD
  • 33:46Cab Bear APHD student in the lab.
  • 33:48He just actually successfully
  • 33:50defended his PhD.
  • 33:51And Kwansu and MD did the
  • 33:54biological studies and Lee Hua
  • 33:55did chemistry for this work.
  • 34:00So MS147 preferentially degraded
  • 34:03PRC one components BMI one and
  • 34:07room 1B and selectively reduced
  • 34:12H2A Lysing 119 monoclination which
  • 34:15is catalyzed by PRC 1 / P RED.
  • 34:19And the other PRC 2 components is H2
  • 34:24and SUZ 12 and H3K27 trimethylation
  • 34:28which is catalyzed by PRC Two
  • 34:33and the PRC one degradation induced
  • 34:36by MS147 is dependent on Ed,
  • 34:39VHL and UPS and our PRC
  • 34:45One bridge protect MS147.
  • 34:48Is a superior to the parent Ed Ed two
  • 34:53to six and the known PRC 2 degrader
  • 34:57Protech 2 developed by Astrozeneca
  • 34:59in suppressing the proliferation
  • 35:02in multiple cancer cell lines.
  • 35:07So now I'm going to briefly talk about our
  • 35:11TF Protech and the TF dub tech approach.
  • 35:15So as you know many.
  • 35:19Transcription factors are and druggable
  • 35:23due to the lack of suitable small
  • 35:26molecule binding pockets and therefore
  • 35:29this Tf's cannot be targeted by
  • 35:33the traditional pro tech approach.
  • 35:36So to target and druggable oncogenic
  • 35:40Tf's Weiwei's lab at Howard Medical
  • 35:44School and my lab developed TF pro tech.
  • 35:48By conjugating a DNA oligar nucleotide
  • 35:52which is specific to the TF of
  • 35:56interest to a ESV ligas ligand,
  • 35:58in this case VHL ligand,
  • 36:00where a click action,
  • 36:02so the resulting DNA oligar nucleotide and
  • 36:06and VHL ligand conjugates simultaneously
  • 36:09binds the TF of interest and the VHL
  • 36:14ESV ligas this induced proximity.
  • 36:17Leads to selective ubiquitation
  • 36:20of the TF of interest and its
  • 36:24subsequent degradation at Prozone.
  • 36:26So we have we developed a 2 proof
  • 36:29concept TF protects which effectively
  • 36:33degraded NF Kappa B&E to F respectively.
  • 36:39And we are not the only group developed
  • 36:42the TF protect technology and in fact.
  • 36:46Three papers, including ours,
  • 36:48were published around the same time in 2021,
  • 36:52and so this Craig Ku's Trav
  • 36:56Tech paper describing A keynote
  • 36:59A chemo genetic approach,
  • 37:01was published first, and then this
  • 37:06this paper on a legal protag by
  • 37:09Hao JF One's lab and was published
  • 37:13in advance Advanced Science.
  • 37:17In shortly after our papers
  • 37:19was published in Jax,
  • 37:23So similar to the TF protag approach,
  • 37:26Weiwei's lab and my lab also developed
  • 37:30TF dub tech as a general platform
  • 37:34for stabilizing and drugable tumors
  • 37:37suppressive Tf's by hijacking a
  • 37:40deal pickiness a dub so briefly.
  • 37:44We conjugated ADNL organ nucleotide,
  • 37:47which is specific to the target TF,
  • 37:50to a small molecule ligand of a deopinase,
  • 37:53a DUB, in this case OTU B1 ligand which was
  • 37:59previously developed by Danny Morris lab.
  • 38:01We are a click a click reaction,
  • 38:04so this resulting DNA organ
  • 38:08nucleotide OTU B1 ligand conjugate
  • 38:11simultaneously binds that.
  • 38:13Target TF and the OTV one dub.
  • 38:18This induced proximity lead to
  • 38:21selective deuption of the target TF
  • 38:26and its stabilization and we have
  • 38:29we developed the three proof concept
  • 38:31TF dub packs which effectively
  • 38:33stabilized tumor suppressors FOX
  • 38:38O3AP53 and IRF 3 respective.
  • 38:43So lastly, I'm just going to very
  • 38:46briefly mention our Keep One work.
  • 38:49As many of you know out
  • 38:52of 600 plus E3 legacies,
  • 38:54only very limited of them have
  • 38:57been harnessed for targeted protein
  • 38:59degradation with the CRBN and we gel
  • 39:02being utilized most extensively.
  • 39:05So we demonstrated the Call 3 E 3
  • 39:08like us Keep 1, can be harnessed.
  • 39:11For protective element by using
  • 39:15potent selective and non covalent
  • 39:18ligand of keep one which was
  • 39:21previously developed by Glaxosmus 1.
  • 39:23So we developed
  • 39:27MS-83 approved concept Keep one
  • 39:30recruiting PRD three, PRD 4,
  • 39:32Protech which degraded PRD four and PRD
  • 39:35three more durably than the well known.
  • 39:39BRD this well known CRB and recruiting
  • 39:42BRD 234 portag DBAT One MS-83 also have a
  • 39:48superior selectivity profile to dbat 1.
  • 39:51Interestingly, 83 selectively degraded
  • 39:54BRD 4 short isoform also over BRD
  • 39:594 long isoform in MBA MB 231 cells.
  • 40:02So we hope this work expands.
  • 40:05The limited toolbox for targeted
  • 40:08protein degradation.
  • 40:12So in addition to the bridged Protag,
  • 40:15TF Protag and TF Dubtech technologies
  • 40:19and the key point work I just mentioned,
  • 40:23we in collaboration with Weiwei's lab
  • 40:25also developed fully caged Protag and
  • 40:29Optoprotag for selectively targeting cancer
  • 40:32cells over normal cells and TeleTech.
  • 40:35For selective devolution of telemeric
  • 40:39binding of telemeric repeat binding factors,
  • 40:43in collaboration with May Hathaway's lab at
  • 40:46University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill,
  • 40:48we also developed a chemo genetic based hydro
  • 40:53bifunctional deaccillators and accillators.
  • 40:56And in the interest of time,
  • 40:58I will not talk about this work today.
  • 41:01So with that.
  • 41:03I thank all our collaborators
  • 41:05for their contributions,
  • 41:07in particularly Greg Wong and his lab at UNC,
  • 41:11a new AGUA slab at Mount Sinai and Alan
  • 41:15Tarka's lab at Arkansas for the WDR 5
  • 41:19Protect work and Ramon Parson's lab,
  • 41:23Samir Parak Lab and Anas Gusiani's
  • 41:26lab at Mount Sinai for the easy
  • 41:29H2 DEGRADER MS1943 work.
  • 41:30And Greg Wang's lab and Ling Tai's
  • 41:33lab at UNC for the easy to protect
  • 41:37MS177 work and you assume for at
  • 41:41college and for for his help on
  • 41:44the 2nd D1 bridge protect work.
  • 41:46And of course when he and his
  • 41:49lab members for the TI Protag,
  • 41:52TF DUB Tag,
  • 41:54TeleTech 40K H Protag and Optoprotag
  • 41:57work and.
  • 41:58Then Shan Chen and his lab for
  • 42:02conducting pretty much all our
  • 42:05mass back based proteomic studies.
  • 42:09So I also thank my current and former
  • 42:12lab members for their contributions.
  • 42:15So mention some of their names
  • 42:17during the talk and thank funding
  • 42:20agencies for the financial support.
  • 42:22Last but not least,
  • 42:23thank you very much for your kind attention.
  • 42:26Happy to answer the questions you may have.
  • 42:34I'm for a good question. Actually
  • 42:41I'm curious to
  • 42:45be mentioned
  • 42:51with the
  • 42:58pro that.
  • 43:08Right. And Don that's a great question.
  • 43:11The the, the new substrate issues
  • 43:16if if you like all opportunity,
  • 43:20it's mainly through the CRBN ligands
  • 43:24of the the CRBN history like this
  • 43:27and to date the no new substrates
  • 43:30have been identified for VHL.
  • 43:32And so, so therefore we
  • 43:35shall recruiting protects.
  • 43:37So far we have not seen the new
  • 43:39substrate issue and having said
  • 43:42that the I should know that more
  • 43:45than 20 protects have been advanced
  • 43:47to clinical trials all but one
  • 43:51are CRBN recruiting compost. OK.
  • 43:53So therefore in those cases the
  • 43:55new substrates of the CRBN really
  • 43:58need to be carefully monitored
  • 44:00and actually to to this day.
  • 44:01And new new substrates of the CRBN
  • 44:04are still being discovered, OK.
  • 44:05So that the field really need to
  • 44:07watch that carefully but like
  • 44:09you said on the other hand we
  • 44:11could have turned this around and
  • 44:13use this as opportunity and two
  • 44:15actually generated potentially more
  • 44:16effective anti cancer therapeutics,
  • 44:25all right. So that part of we
  • 44:27child part of that I I don't but
  • 44:30for the CRBN part of it really
  • 44:32is the CRBN ligand and and the.
  • 44:35It kind of pretty promiscuous and doesn't
  • 44:37matter actually what linker you put it in.
  • 44:39It still binds to crbn,
  • 44:41but the because the linker will change
  • 44:44a little bit that lead to actually
  • 44:47different new substrate got degraded.
  • 44:49So we do Actually we have pretty
  • 44:52good understanding how to change
  • 44:54linkers to eliminate the.
  • 44:56Let's see the IKCF one and three degradation.
  • 45:01Oh how to eliminate GSPT 1 degradation.
  • 45:04And but if you want to incorporate
  • 45:07some of the new substrate into in
  • 45:11addition to the devolution of your
  • 45:13target protein in that case and
  • 45:15more linker exploration is needed.
  • 45:57Akshay.
  • 46:22Thank you.
  • 46:32Right. That's a great question also.
  • 46:34So let me kind of it's a loaded question.
  • 46:36Let me try to answer 1 by 1. OK, right.
  • 46:39So first about MS-40, OK, right.
  • 46:42Then we're going to talk about the
  • 46:44selectivity of the resistance, OK, right.
  • 46:47The the MS-40 uses selective WDR 5
  • 46:52binder as a moiety, as a binder of WD-5.
  • 46:57So the parent inhibitor does not inhibit.
  • 47:01Lead to degradation of the CRBN
  • 47:03new substrate IKZF 1:00 and 3:00.
  • 47:05So this the degradation of IKZF
  • 47:081/3 only happened to WDR 5 degrader
  • 47:12not WDR 5 inhibitor. OK all right.
  • 47:15So that that because the the compound it
  • 47:18does not bind to the the the inhibitor
  • 47:21portion the does not bind to CRBN.
  • 47:23OK, right.
  • 47:24So that that that that part is that
  • 47:27that is so you know you're right.
  • 47:29I mean the.
  • 47:30And and in this case the degraders
  • 47:34could be actually so so-called less
  • 47:37selective than the inhibitor because the
  • 47:41the degrader degrades the new substrate
  • 47:43of CRBN which inhibitor does not, OK right.
  • 47:47But on the other hand the I
  • 47:50just want to point it out,
  • 47:51the degraders sometimes actually could
  • 47:54be much more selective than inhibitor.
  • 47:58Let's see the in the cases.
  • 48:00We have a multiple isoforms
  • 48:02of a multiple subtypes,
  • 48:04for example cilicate four and six.
  • 48:06OK As you know the that D
  • 48:09approved drugs polycyclip,
  • 48:10ribocyclip and a bamocyclip.
  • 48:12They all have a similar potency
  • 48:15for cilicate 4 and six.
  • 48:16OK but but using the same the ligand
  • 48:20which bind to cilicate 4/6 with same
  • 48:23affinity but the cilicate 46 degraders,
  • 48:25the degraders can actually achieve
  • 48:28selective degradation of cilicate 4.
  • 48:30Over 6 and vice versa.
  • 48:33Mainly it's because not so much of A binding,
  • 48:36but the binding is the it's one event.
  • 48:39But the second event is a
  • 48:40ternary complex formation.
  • 48:41OK, so then the so the degrader,
  • 48:44this ternary complex formation and
  • 48:45whether or not the license residues,
  • 48:48appropriate license residues on the
  • 48:49target 14 in this case city four and
  • 48:52six are available for eucalation,
  • 48:54give you basically another dimension
  • 48:56to achieve selectivity.
  • 48:58So people have achieved selectivity that way.
  • 49:01Even you have a ligand bind to
  • 49:04the isoforms of the subtypes of
  • 49:06proteins with same affinity,
  • 49:08you can achieve selective degradation of
  • 49:101 particular isoform over other isoforms.
  • 49:13OK, right.
  • 49:14So then in terms of drug resistance,
  • 49:19the.
  • 49:20The as you know the kines
  • 49:22inhabitation OF646 inhabit the
  • 49:25drug resistance have been observed
  • 49:28in clinical in clinical setting.
  • 49:31And the I mean whether or not the
  • 49:35drug distance going to happen to the
  • 49:37protests is remain to be seen and in a
  • 49:40clinical setting so far have not been seen.
  • 49:42And part part of the reason for
  • 49:45that is the the binding of the
  • 49:48protect to the target protein.
  • 49:50And the that binary requirement
  • 49:51of the high affinity is not it's
  • 49:53not very stringent as long as the
  • 49:56compound binds somewhat even with you,
  • 49:58you have a lose lost the binary affinity
  • 50:01tenfold, twentyfold,
  • 50:02thirtyfold you still could
  • 50:04lead to selective declaration.
  • 50:06OK, right. And having said that,
  • 50:10people have done in the
  • 50:12laboratory setting observed.
  • 50:13The resistance to degraders,
  • 50:16OK and kind of initial
  • 50:18report kind of interesting.
  • 50:19The resistance happened actually not
  • 50:22as it's not a point mutation in the
  • 50:25binding pocket of your target protein,
  • 50:27but actually rather is the
  • 50:29done regulation of the E3
  • 50:31like this complex component.
  • 50:34OK, so people have observed done
  • 50:37regulation of call 2 and call 4 for
  • 50:40HL&CRB and including compounds respected.
  • 51:04That's great question.
  • 51:05I would love to test that we have not.
  • 51:07We tested in the cell lines in the
  • 51:08graph bottle, but not a PDX model and.
  • 51:14Yeah, we tested as a single
  • 51:17agent in the cell lines model,
  • 51:18but not as not in the PDX.
  • 51:21And also the probably would be in
  • 51:23addition to PDX probably test in the.
  • 51:29Not, not in the e-mail compromised mice.
  • 51:31Let's see just you know regular mouse models,
  • 51:34syngenate mouse models probably could also
  • 51:36see some potential additional benefit.
  • 51:39As you know is issue also actually
  • 51:41involved e-mail response and there's
  • 51:43number of reports actually either
  • 51:45inhibition of user two or declaration
  • 51:47of user two could lead to actually
  • 51:50increased e-mail response.
  • 51:51We have not done that.
  • 52:23Yeah. And these are this.
  • 52:25These are great questions and.
  • 52:27We have not seen the the the over
  • 52:30the amplification of the target and
  • 52:34and the acid resistance mechanism
  • 52:36so far and but it could well happen
  • 52:40and and so as the bridge protect
  • 52:43approach the ideal situation I mean
  • 52:45we we here I showed you 2 proof
  • 52:48concept studies and they are they
  • 52:50look promising but they're not perfect
  • 52:52right so the the the city of the
  • 52:54cycling D1 degrade are still degrade.
  • 52:57CDK 46 somewhat but it's a less definitely
  • 53:00less than a second D1 and the the the
  • 53:06MS147 the PRC one degrader it also
  • 53:08degrade a little bit of the Ed.
  • 53:10Ideally we would like to actually
  • 53:12the bridge protect do not degrade
  • 53:14the bridge protein OK if we
  • 53:16don't degrade the bridge protein.
  • 53:18So that may be actually potentially could
  • 53:22actually for cells develop resistant to that.
  • 53:25Maybe actually it's the last kind of a a,
  • 53:28a opportunity there.
  • 53:29I so we've been thinking about what
  • 53:32would be a ideal bridge protein.
  • 53:33So the a bridge protein ideally would be have
  • 53:37like a kind of some kind of lessened desert.
  • 53:39So basically you have a small molecule but
  • 53:41this this protein have lessened desert
  • 53:43actually does not get ubuccinated and
  • 53:45and so therefore do not get degraded.
  • 53:47So that would be we're we're actually
  • 53:50working on that try to try to
  • 53:52discover like a a a improved compost.
  • 53:57Let me brief out that some type of
  • 54:00patient to them in the pool, Silent
  • 54:06room
  • 54:08after the time.
  • 54:11What's your generous study?
  • 54:15Find, What's the letters?
  • 54:18Whatever the study.
  • 54:20Yeah, and it's a great question.
  • 54:22I got to ask the the,
  • 54:26the this is the really is actually it
  • 54:30depends on the target and depend on the
  • 54:33target We Chin and I have been working
  • 54:36on his favorite target for a long time,
  • 54:38a long time. And on the other hand the,
  • 54:43I mean for the WD R5 and the AKT
  • 54:47or CD46 Protax, I didn't.
  • 54:50The AKT and four,
  • 54:51six protects I didn't talk about today in
  • 54:54those cases in the first round of compounds,
  • 54:57let's see first a a few dozen compounds,
  • 55:00we already have a good hits, OK, right.
  • 55:02Then as you continue to optimize,
  • 55:04I mean the head rate actually is
  • 55:05very high in those target you,
  • 55:07you and the the when I see the
  • 55:09initial run getting hits is not a
  • 55:11single hit multiple compounds active,
  • 55:13you see the trend of the SER
  • 55:15point to you which.
  • 55:17Linker links is likely favor
  • 55:18those kind of things, right.
  • 55:19But on the other hand we have like a
  • 55:22some of other targets we have a case
  • 55:25that's a lot worse than the the ones
  • 55:27you're we've been working on many,
  • 55:28many years.
  • 55:29We're just having no heads what's that?
  • 55:31OK, right.
  • 55:33But you know we actually trying
  • 55:35to now turn this around to use
  • 55:38those as the bridge protein,
  • 55:40OK because they don't get degraded, right.
  • 55:43So if they can detect with our.
  • 55:46Favored and drug protein, right.
  • 55:48So therefore we we already have a rich
  • 55:51protein which does not get degraded, right.
  • 55:54So so it wears quite a bit.
  • 55:57And then we we typically use a crystal
  • 56:02structure of the binary complex to
  • 56:05identify solving exposed region and we we,
  • 56:08I mean we try to do modeling
  • 56:10and so far the modeling of the
  • 56:12ternary complex formation is quite
  • 56:14difficult and so to this stage.
  • 56:16The example I showed you,
  • 56:17the WDF 5, we have two high
  • 56:21revolution crystal structures,
  • 56:22right?
  • 56:22So the first one really helped
  • 56:24us tremendously to generating
  • 56:26much more effective protects.
  • 56:28Then we confirmed that
  • 56:29using the second structure.
  • 56:47Right. Yeah, it's a great question.
  • 56:48Also just a general speaking,
  • 56:52there are kind of two approaches, right.
  • 56:54So the one approach we we do so this
  • 56:57is in collaboration with Eva's lab,
  • 56:59we call this controllable protects.
  • 57:02So basically we make the protect but
  • 57:06capped caged with a with a cage group.
  • 57:10So the protect itself is not active,
  • 57:12OK, right. So only when we.
  • 57:14End cage that that by that
  • 57:17can be by UV light or by some
  • 57:21hopefully by hypoxic condition.
  • 57:23OK. Right.
  • 57:24So therefore our radiation OK right.
  • 57:27So then the cage group is released
  • 57:30or cleaved so now we have active
  • 57:33protect and that can lead to
  • 57:37you know so, so then we can
  • 57:39basically turn on and off right
  • 57:41another way we've been doing it.
  • 57:42So part of the.
  • 57:44Controllable protag is we published
  • 57:46a couple of papers together with
  • 57:48many labs so-called Foley caged protag.
  • 57:52So basically again the protag
  • 57:54were caged with a Foley.
  • 57:57Foley Foley receptor are receptors
  • 58:00are overexpressed in cancer cells over
  • 58:04normal cells and binding of the Foley
  • 58:07group to the Foley receptor leads to
  • 58:10endocytosis of the entire molecule.
  • 58:12Then the that Foley that Foley cage
  • 58:15group is cleaved in the in the zone
  • 58:19release the active protect lead to
  • 58:21a degradation of a target protein.
  • 58:24OK so in cancer cells over normal cell.
  • 58:27So this kind of a controllable
  • 58:29protect approach.
  • 58:30Another way we've been a lot of
  • 58:32us are trying to do basically is
  • 58:34to find the targets of working
  • 58:36on the targets that are really.
  • 58:38Driving tumors or Tumogenesis are like
  • 58:40I mean the the critical for that but
  • 58:44it's non essential in normal cells
  • 58:47and and so one example is cycling D1.
  • 58:49Cycling D1 is non essential gene OK
  • 58:52normal cells do not care right So then
  • 58:54you you you really you completely
  • 58:56knock out of the 2nd D1 basically
  • 58:58have no feedback and so that that
  • 59:01and but cycling D1 is important in
  • 59:04Tumogenesis so therefore in this case.
  • 59:07We believe cycling D1 degrader would
  • 59:09have very good circuit window.
  • 59:15We have not done that.
  • 59:16People have done that, yes,
  • 59:38yeah.
  • 59:49Yeah those are great points.
  • 59:51The just the the second point 1st and
  • 59:55and actually protest can be actually the
  • 59:57youth can the PGP substrates, OK, right.
  • 01:00:00So some of them actually got
  • 01:00:02Eflex after quite dramatically.
  • 01:00:04And so then it really depends on,
  • 01:00:06so the try to avoid the PGP substrate is
  • 01:00:10important because otherwise you know the
  • 01:00:12the molecules are already very big, right.
  • 01:00:14Very difficult to get in cell.
  • 01:00:15But if you even the small amount
  • 01:00:17get in the cell got, if got, got,
  • 01:00:19got if likes out then you really
  • 01:00:21don't have a don't have active
  • 01:00:22compost in the inside the cell, right.
  • 01:00:24So that's that's kind of important.
  • 01:00:26OK, right.
  • 01:00:30It's great point.
  • 01:00:31We actually currently working on
  • 01:00:33this especially for a brain tumors,
  • 01:00:36the protag's so big right make
  • 01:00:37it already by available already
  • 01:00:40difficult make it already by
  • 01:00:42available and brain penetrant,
  • 01:00:43it's almost impossible.
  • 01:00:45OK, so therefore really using
  • 01:00:48nanoparticle technologies to
  • 01:00:49deliver protax to the brain,
  • 01:00:51I think, I think that's kind
  • 01:00:53of One Direction to go.
  • 01:01:08Thanks a lot.