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Pulmonary Fibrosis, Immune Responses & Guidance Proteins - The Herzog Lab at Yale School of Medicine

February 23, 2026
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13868

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  • 00:06We don't fully understand why
  • 00:08pulmonary fibrosis
  • 00:10happens.
  • 00:11We think the lung has
  • 00:12become injured for some reason,
  • 00:15and that in an attempt
  • 00:16to suppress the injury,
  • 00:18the lung develops
  • 00:20an ongoing healing process.
  • 00:22It generates extra tissue and
  • 00:25it's trying to regrow itself,
  • 00:27but it can't and as
  • 00:28a result you just get
  • 00:30more and more scar formation
  • 00:32to the point where the
  • 00:33lungs become stiff, they're full
  • 00:35of scar tissue and it's
  • 00:37difficult for patients to take
  • 00:38a deep breath and it's
  • 00:39difficult for patients to live
  • 00:41their daily lives. I mean,
  • 00:42a cause is shorter life
  • 00:44because they ultimately results in
  • 00:47lung failure.
  • 00:53My lab is devoted to
  • 00:54finding a cure for pulmonary
  • 00:56fibrosis,
  • 00:57and we do this by
  • 00:58studying
  • 00:59immune responses
  • 01:01and neuronal guidance proteins. For
  • 01:03years, it was thought that
  • 01:04the immune system had no
  • 01:05role in pulmonary fibrosis.
  • 01:07We all know that the
  • 01:09immune system
  • 01:10really helps us fight off
  • 01:12infection, but there's a whole
  • 01:13other role for the immune
  • 01:15system in regulating
  • 01:17how tissue responds to injury.
  • 01:20Netrin one was initially discovered
  • 01:22as a neuronal guidance protein.
  • 01:24It was discovered that they
  • 01:25also had important roles in
  • 01:27immunity
  • 01:28and in tissue remodeling. And
  • 01:30so when we initially began
  • 01:32studying netrin one and proteins
  • 01:33like netrin one, we were
  • 01:35studying how netrin one regulates
  • 01:38immune responses
  • 01:39during
  • 01:40healing. Recently though,
  • 01:43we made the completely
  • 01:45unexpected finding that in addition
  • 01:47to these immunologic functions, Netrin
  • 01:49one contributes to tissue repair,
  • 01:51remodeling,
  • 01:52and also fibrosis
  • 01:54through its originally
  • 01:55described function
  • 01:57of stimulating
  • 01:58nerve growth and mediating where
  • 02:00nerves are going
  • 02:02during development and during repair.
  • 02:09When you're trying to develop
  • 02:10a treatment for a human
  • 02:12disease, having a human relevant
  • 02:14modeling system is critically important.
  • 02:16I have to develop models,
  • 02:18like little simulators
  • 02:19of the human disease in
  • 02:21the laboratory that we've engineered
  • 02:23to express human genes and
  • 02:25act like human fibrosis
  • 02:27when we study it. Other
  • 02:29times, we're studying samples that
  • 02:31we get from our patients
  • 02:32in the clinic, you know,
  • 02:34cells or blood specimens and
  • 02:36we're understanding the immune system
  • 02:37through those samples.
  • 02:39But other times we're making
  • 02:41what we call mimetics, which
  • 02:43is where we're using human
  • 02:45organs that we get from
  • 02:46pathology
  • 02:47and create a little mini
  • 02:49lung in the laboratory that
  • 02:50we can use to study
  • 02:51human biology.
  • 02:57My
  • 02:58goal
  • 02:59is based on my hope
  • 03:00that we will find a
  • 03:02way to cure pulmonary fibrosis.
  • 03:04Whether this is through prevention,
  • 03:07meaning we understand why does
  • 03:09pulmonary fibrosis develop and how
  • 03:11can we prevent that.
  • 03:13Whether it's developing
  • 03:14a drug or a method
  • 03:16that we can use to
  • 03:17to halt the disease so
  • 03:18there's no further progression
  • 03:20or that we will get
  • 03:21to the point where we
  • 03:23advance science such that the
  • 03:25next generation of scientists can
  • 03:26pick up where we left
  • 03:27off and we end up
  • 03:29with being able to reverse
  • 03:30the disease,
  • 03:31eradicate fibrosis, and have normal
  • 03:33lung regrow so patients who
  • 03:35were previously sick can become
  • 03:37healthy.