"Transformation and Quality: Building a Cancer Network" and "Post Transplant Lymphoproliferative Disorders"
February 03, 2021Yale Cancer Center Grand Rounds | February 2, 2021
Anne Chiang, MD, PhD, and Francesca Montanari, MD
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- 00:00Substituting today very happy to be here.
- 00:03So we have two talks today and I think
- 00:06it should be a very interesting hour.
- 00:10Our first talk will be by Anne Chang and
- 00:13actually ends very much in the news today.
- 00:16Congratulations.
- 00:17And so an is associate Professor of Medicine,
- 00:20medical oncology and Deputy Chief medical
- 00:22Officer and Chief Integration Officer
- 00:24Officer for Smile Cancer hospital.
- 00:26As of about 3 hours ago.
- 00:29She specializes in thoracic
- 00:31oncology with a background in
- 00:32translational research and metastases,
- 00:34and a clinical focus has been built
- 00:36has been to build an amazing small
- 00:38cell lung cancer program here with a
- 00:41comprehensive portfolio of clinical
- 00:42trials testing novel therapeutics.
- 00:44Her research interests focus on focus
- 00:46and development of clinical trials and
- 00:49translational studies to test novel
- 00:51agents and combinations with immune
- 00:53checkpoint inhibitors for both small
- 00:54cell and non small cell lung tumors.
- 00:58Over now nine years an she's helped
- 01:00to build our smiling network,
- 01:02which I think will hear about today
- 01:05and overseas operations quality
- 01:06efforts in clinical research,
- 01:08adult care centers.
- 01:09She's a particular focus in quality
- 01:11measurement and improvement and
- 01:12his work to achieve ASCO copy
- 01:15certification for the entire smell.
- 01:16Academic clinical practice
- 01:17of actually received.
- 01:18Actually, the Joe Simone Award,
- 01:20just recently in Q just passed away
- 01:23last week, but a big honor for Masco,
- 01:26so an it's a pleasure to have
- 01:28you here for our first talk.
- 01:30Transformation in quality building
- 01:32a cancer network,
- 01:34and.
- 01:35Thanks Roy, it's really a pleasure
- 01:37to be able to talk to you today
- 01:41and thanks for the invitation.
- 01:43I was trying to decide between
- 01:45lung cancer and the network,
- 01:47but because of the timing of the
- 01:50announcement this morning and I
- 01:52thought that it would be nice to
- 01:54highlight the work that has gone
- 01:57into building a cancer network.
- 01:59So that's what I'm focusing,
- 02:01but I did put in a couple
- 02:03of slides with my trials so.
- 02:06I suck that in.
- 02:08OK, so I'm sharing my screen my disclosures.
- 02:14And this is for four.
- 02:16If you recognize it,
- 02:17it's South Ferry terminal farmers
- 02:19market in San Francisco and it's amazing
- 02:21place because the quality of the food
- 02:23and the shops are really outstanding.
- 02:26I had the best Peach I've
- 02:28ever had in my life.
- 02:29The atmosphere is buzzing in
- 02:31the shops are full of colorful,
- 02:33beautiful produce as far as you
- 02:35can see and when I was here which
- 02:38was pre covid the last time it
- 02:41seemed to me that this was more
- 02:43than a farmers market where.
- 02:45Each farmer sets up their shop
- 02:48individually next to each other,
- 02:49but somehow there was a transformation
- 02:52of the individual stands into
- 02:54a different collective entity,
- 02:56real community,
- 02:56and so in the same way that in
- 03:00the same way I want to talk about
- 03:03cancer or cancer network today,
- 03:05there really has been a trend
- 03:07over the past 10 years of academic
- 03:10institutions or other entities buying
- 03:13up practices or putting up their names on.
- 03:16Affiliated practices,
- 03:17but what I wanted to focus on is
- 03:20how to how I think we've built
- 03:23a real transformative network,
- 03:24a community that is better than
- 03:27the individual units where cancer
- 03:29delivery is really somehow transformed.
- 03:32And so you know, this is,
- 03:34let's go to transformation theory too
- 03:37as a guiding principle for this work.
- 03:39As it is,
- 03:41Carter said transformation is a process,
- 03:43not an event.
- 03:44And you start with a sense of
- 03:47urgency form a coalition and you
- 03:49create and share that vision.
- 03:51You empower others to act on that vision.
- 03:55You plan, create short term wins,
- 03:57consolidate those advances,
- 03:58and hardwire new systems.
- 04:00And I think the bottom line.
- 04:02Here is that quality improvement
- 04:05methodology is really been the basis
- 04:08of my job in the network and formed
- 04:10the foundation of building our vision
- 04:13over the past almost 10 years.
- 04:15So the objectives for today's talk
- 04:18really are two number one provider,
- 04:21network development, overview,
- 04:22describe quality concepts and
- 04:24metrics and network development
- 04:26to discuss ways to further the
- 04:28research mission in the network.
- 04:30And then finally recognize the
- 04:32benefits of expanded community.
- 04:34So this is how it all began.
- 04:38We we when I started my job this was in 2011.
- 04:43There was no network.
- 04:44We had hired anybody but we did have
- 04:47Yale Smilow state of the art disease based,
- 04:51patient centered clinical operation.
- 04:52We had outstanding faculty,
- 04:54staff,
- 04:54trainees,
- 04:55cutting edge clinical research
- 04:57resources and across organizational
- 04:59commitment for expansion and really
- 05:00a powerful coalition of folks
- 05:02to carry out that vision,
- 05:04which was really to provide
- 05:06comprehensive care to all patients.
- 05:08Close to home in Connecticut and to
- 05:11provide a platform for Yale Clinical
- 05:13Research and expand access to trials.
- 05:16So this is really the result.
- 05:199 1/2 years later the this.
- 05:21This is our clinical footprint in
- 05:24Connecticut and in Rhode Island.
- 05:26This stars are where our our care centers
- 05:29are and we do provide care to patients
- 05:33within 30 minutes of where they live.
- 05:36In Connecticut.
- 05:37We provide care to about 45% of
- 05:40newly diagnosed cancer patients in
- 05:43Connecticut and we also provide about or.
- 05:46We accrue about 25% of of therapeutic
- 05:49clinical trial enrollments as,
- 05:51as Roy mentioned,
- 05:53we have achieved ASCO quality
- 05:55oncology certification throughout our
- 05:57entire network in the main campus.
- 05:59This is away.
- 06:01This is actually the only way to
- 06:03certify ambulatory practices.
- 06:06Many of you are familiar with the AC OS,
- 06:10which certifies cancer programs.
- 06:13In all of the physicians are what YM?
- 06:18With the exception of Hartford,
- 06:21where the physicians are still
- 06:23Saint Francis employed,
- 06:24but do have a faculty appointments and
- 06:27are a stipend from from Yale and all
- 06:31of the staff are smilow employed or least,
- 06:35and we do have cross system policies
- 06:38and procedures and quality initiatives.
- 06:42This is a timeline where I started
- 06:44here in in in 2011 and and we did
- 06:47not have a network and then over
- 06:50the course of the next 9 1/2 years.
- 06:53We we brought in a practices and
- 06:56in in the in the.
- 06:59In doing so really had the opportunity to.
- 07:04Have multiple PDF a cycles in
- 07:06terms of improving our process and
- 07:09improving our in perfecting our
- 07:12onboarding process and now as I said
- 07:15we have 15 locations in two states.
- 07:17We have all we have almost 50 MD's,
- 07:2116 aips and over 400 staff we see
- 07:24over 9000 new patients 100 and
- 07:2625,000 treatment visits yearly and
- 07:29the contribution margin on an annual
- 07:32basis is greater than 110,000,000.
- 07:35So I think that this is really been
- 07:38successful and I'm going to talk a
- 07:41little bit about the onboarding practice
- 07:43the onboarding process first, so.
- 07:47This is where we really utilized
- 07:49integration and transformative change
- 07:51strategies to engage the stakeholders.
- 07:54The physicians that the staff
- 07:56in the practice, and we.
- 07:58There's at the bottom line is that
- 08:02there's really no shortcut here.
- 08:04It really is hard work having
- 08:07regular meetings on transition
- 08:09issues such as epic pharmacy,
- 08:11workflow changes,
- 08:12and those transitioned into practice
- 08:15meetings which were very useful.
- 08:18On an ongoing are useful on an ongoing basis.
- 08:22We developed a formal onboarding curriculum,
- 08:25and this utilized leaders and peers
- 08:27is faculty and it really included
- 08:30the Smilow vision and structure.
- 08:32Faculty roles and expectations.
- 08:34What does it mean now to be part of
- 08:38Yale and Smilow? How does quality work?
- 08:41How does the research apparatus work?
- 08:44Who are the dart leaders?
- 08:46What is that mean?
- 08:48What is what are academic mentors and and?
- 08:53So going through that that curriculum
- 08:56also involving team building
- 08:58and leadership training and
- 09:00including our multidisciplinary
- 09:01members not only met Aachen Heme,
- 09:04but our surgical colleagues are rat out
- 09:08colleagues pain and palliative care so.
- 09:12Um? Be the next.
- 09:16Either or the next part of quality
- 09:19improvement is really measurement,
- 09:21and this is a graphic of the really PDS.
- 09:24A cycle you have multiple.
- 09:28You know, iterations of
- 09:30how do you improve care,
- 09:32but measurement is really important,
- 09:34and so we started measuring at baseline
- 09:37because we wanted to make sure that we
- 09:40could measure progress and not just,
- 09:42you know, stick a sign on the door.
- 09:46That said, Yale Smilow and this paper
- 09:48published in 2018 really showed
- 09:50improvements in multiple domains of quality,
- 09:53including volume, clinical integration,
- 09:54quality metrics, and patient satisfaction.
- 09:57I'm going to show you. Few of those.
- 10:00At some of that data now.
- 10:03So in annual visits for chemo
- 10:05this you can see the main campus
- 10:08in blue over the years and then.
- 10:11When the Kirsten's Care Center
- 10:13started in in 2012,
- 10:15you could see the growth has really
- 10:17been significant and we do give
- 10:20now more chemo in our care centers
- 10:22closer to home for our patients
- 10:24than we do in the main campus.
- 10:28In terms of standardization,
- 10:30we utilized coping.
- 10:32Measurement Copy is a program through
- 10:35ASCO called quality Oncology Practice
- 10:39Initiative and it consists of.
- 10:41Go up to 90 metrics of of oncology
- 10:45of ambulatory oncology,
- 10:47quality that have been developed
- 10:49national iyanar consensus based
- 10:51and evidence based when available,
- 10:54so we had a measurement at baseline.
- 10:59Representing the practices before they
- 11:01joined and then this is four years
- 11:04later we looked at the significant
- 11:06differences and saw that really the
- 11:08only changes were in the positive.
- 11:10These are actually shown here and and
- 11:13so this was really important to me
- 11:16because I wanted to make sure again
- 11:18it wasn't just putting in a sign on the door,
- 11:22but that we were actually using.
- 11:26National consensus based metrics
- 11:28to show that we were improving
- 11:32quality for our patients.
- 11:34We also,
- 11:35as Roy mentioned at the beginning,
- 11:37did copy certification across our
- 11:39network and the academic campus.
- 11:41This is similar to the ACOs
- 11:44certification there.
- 11:4526 standards and you really have to
- 11:48show in document that the process
- 11:51from soup to nuts of chemotherapy
- 11:54administration and policies and
- 11:56procedures are in place that show us.
- 11:59That are up to snuff for ASCO
- 12:01certification and we re certified in 2019.
- 12:07Um, regarding clinical integration.
- 12:09I'll just show you the.
- 12:12And this represents cases
- 12:14President care Center cases
- 12:16presented at smilow tumor boards.
- 12:18We have 13 disease specific multi
- 12:20D tumor boards and we've asked all
- 12:23of our physicians to present one
- 12:26to two cases a month understanding
- 12:29that we can't present all of them.
- 12:32But really, those complex cases that
- 12:35need that multi D discussion needs to be
- 12:38presented and so you can see in 2013.
- 12:42This was difficult because the
- 12:44logistics around dialing in,
- 12:46which is so easy now by assume it.
- 12:50But at that time was very difficult.
- 12:52Getting the path reviewed, getting the.
- 12:56Radiology diagnostic imaging to be
- 12:58available that was really hard at the
- 13:02time and now I think we've received
- 13:04we've we've sort of the steady state,
- 13:07is right around 500.
- 13:09That's the case also.
- 13:10Sorry, this is 2018-2019, 2020,
- 13:12right around the 500 mark,
- 13:14which I think represents sort
- 13:18of the steady state.
- 13:20Um, with respect to customer service.
- 13:23Those of you who have.
- 13:26You know,
- 13:27pay attention to press ganey know that
- 13:30we always cluster in this 90s area.
- 13:33It's very difficult to make any changes here,
- 13:36but if you look at again baseline
- 13:38press ganey scores for practices that
- 13:41we acquired and six years later,
- 13:43you can see that in all of the
- 13:46cases we actually stayed the same.
- 13:48We're actually improved with one
- 13:50exception here is is this the site,
- 13:53but in some cases really significantly
- 13:55improved patient satisfaction.
- 13:59Um? This highlights some of
- 14:02the innovative projects that
- 14:04we've taken on in the network.
- 14:07This was a pilot with Asko Asko
- 14:09has a quality training program that
- 14:12is 6 months and has three didactic
- 14:15sessions and and a very aggressive
- 14:18curriculum every two weeks around
- 14:20process mapping and barrier analysis
- 14:22and and ultimately multiple PDS a cycles.
- 14:25In this case, we had a team from
- 14:29every care center at the time in 2000.
- 14:3217 and we did it again,
- 14:352018 which were interdisciplinary team.
- 14:38So we had doctors partnering
- 14:41with nurses or nutrition,
- 14:43or and in one case in MA Pharmacy
- 14:46to conduct quality improvement
- 14:48projects and all of those groups were
- 14:53able to complete at least one PDS,
- 14:56a cycle over two years or each year,
- 15:01each year getting through.
- 15:03Ipedia say cycle and this work
- 15:06ultimately resulted in nine story
- 15:09in five national presentations,
- 15:11and one of those projects that
- 15:15Jane Kanowitz lead in water Ferd
- 15:19in in 2018 is actually the care
- 15:23center quality goal for 2021.
- 15:27Um?
- 15:29I think many of the participants in
- 15:32these projects were really energized
- 15:34by the teams and the and what they
- 15:38learned around quality improvement.
- 15:40And one question was how
- 15:43do we sustain that gain?
- 15:45You know, I think that it's it's
- 15:48those it's important to be able to
- 15:51use those tools in Q I2 to better
- 15:54care and recognize opportunities to
- 15:57reuse them to face challenges and.
- 16:00And this is actually what we're
- 16:03doing now in the ambulatory
- 16:06transformation Work group we have.
- 16:08A number of groups that are
- 16:11really using the same Qi tools
- 16:13and change tools in lockstep.
- 16:15Action across multiple teams to
- 16:17respond to the pandemic and work
- 16:20towards transformation of care,
- 16:22whether it's relocation of sites
- 16:24or rapid uptake of Tele health.
- 16:27Or you know,
- 16:28developing and disseminating best practices.
- 16:30I think that this this this is the
- 16:34same process as the ASCO Smiler
- 16:36pilot but now applied to the.
- 16:39Immediate.
- 16:43Covid pandemic.
- 16:46Now that we're in, so you,
- 16:49I think you'll hear more about these.
- 16:52The work these groups are
- 16:54doing over the coming months,
- 16:57and I think it's been really exciting.
- 17:01So now I'm going to turn to clinical
- 17:04research, and as I mentioned before,
- 17:07we have about 25% of our YCC therapeutic
- 17:10enrollments from the care centers.
- 17:12This is also a process that
- 17:14needed to be built and hardwired.
- 17:17This is back in 2012.
- 17:19We had three cooperative group trials open
- 17:22and we had to figure out how to do ESO.
- 17:26Peas, around drug shipment and lab
- 17:28processing and training the staff and the.
- 17:31The docs to do trials where they
- 17:34hadn't done that before and as
- 17:36well as the Pisa trials to make
- 17:39sure that they were comfortable
- 17:41and had oversight of the process.
- 17:44Overtime we developed a monthly clinical
- 17:46research working group that has research
- 17:49champions from each site that meet
- 17:51monthly and vote on their portfolio.
- 17:53The disease team leaders come
- 17:55to those meetings and present
- 17:57their portfolio and new trials,
- 17:59and I think that this process is really.
- 18:03Grown obviously here in the next slide you
- 18:07can see that the accrual per the yearly
- 18:11accrual by sight and the highest sites.
- 18:14Saint Francis Northaven Trumbull,
- 18:16Fairfield.
- 18:17I think one of the things we've learned
- 18:21is that they need to have or they have
- 18:25a ACRSL lab which allows all protocols.
- 18:30No, let's which.
- 18:31Means that there's no limit on protocols that
- 18:36they can open due to lab processing times.
- 18:40Certainly the 2020 accrual
- 18:41was affected by Covid Inc.
- 18:44In our in 2018 we had 224 this year.
- 18:48If you take out the months that
- 18:50we had covid and we had very good
- 18:54accrual prior and and have really
- 18:57picked up now we would have certainly
- 19:00hit 200 between 200 and 220.
- 19:04If not for the for covid,
- 19:07so we activated a new site
- 19:09this year in Westerly.
- 19:11They are now treating some of the patients
- 19:15who were started in Waterford and.
- 19:19Now,
- 19:19in Rhode Island and you can
- 19:21see it actually in Waterford,
- 19:23which opened three years ago.
- 19:25There's been really great
- 19:27accrual growth there as well,
- 19:28so I think that there's really
- 19:31a lot of potential here if the
- 19:33next slide shows you the the
- 19:36yearly accrual by the DART.
- 19:37So which kinds of trials are are
- 19:40having the best accrual breast in
- 19:42GI have are certainly at the top.
- 19:47The long and heme are not far behind as
- 19:50well as T rad ngu that are increasing,
- 19:53so I think again, there's a tremendous
- 19:56potential here in the care centers,
- 19:58and as we have all.
- 20:00Our docs aligning with disease teams.
- 20:02I think this will just increase
- 20:06in the future. Um, this is the.
- 20:10I will quote Kurt Sabbath,
- 20:12who is one of our care center docs who
- 20:15helped to lead research initially.
- 20:18Now now hand it over to Neil Fishback.
- 20:22Kurt always said that he felt that clinical
- 20:24research is synonymous with quality,
- 20:27quality care because there's
- 20:28so many eyes on the patient.
- 20:30There's so much emphasis
- 20:32on important communication,
- 20:33shared decision making,
- 20:34and that really epitomizes quality.
- 20:36In our case,
- 20:37the vision had always been to
- 20:39to provide research as access
- 20:41to our patients close at home,
- 20:43and I think that even more
- 20:46than the numbers per site,
- 20:48this is what really strikes me.
- 20:50Every year we have somewhere around.
- 20:5285 to 87% of our physicians who put
- 20:55at least one patient onto trial.
- 20:58So I think we really changed that culture.
- 21:01We've had a research summit every year,
- 21:04usually around 80 people.
- 21:06That includes our care center docs or DART
- 21:09team members or CTO staff get prizes.
- 21:12We have about 13 care center
- 21:14physicians who served as PII on
- 21:17trials and right now we have 83
- 21:20trials open in nine disease types.
- 21:22About 50% cooperative group 43%
- 21:26industry sponsored in 10% IIT's.
- 21:31Here you see that our care
- 21:34center accruals form about 60%
- 21:36of our cooperative group trials,
- 21:38so that's really important.
- 21:42This is one of my trials.
- 21:44This is a national trial that we
- 21:47have opened in about guess 900
- 21:49sites across the US in Canada,
- 21:52but in our care centers as well.
- 21:54I'm National Co chair with has
- 21:57poor guy and it's a first line PDL
- 22:00positive trial for non squamous non
- 22:03small cell and I think that this is
- 22:06an important trial because it either
- 22:08randomizes you 2 two arms which
- 22:10start with immunotherapy and then
- 22:13if you progress you going to chemo.
- 22:15Or you add chemo to the pen
- 22:18bro Appan progression.
- 22:19That's an important question.
- 22:21This is the the chemo IO control arm and
- 22:25and this this trial I think will tell us.
- 22:28Very important.
- 22:31Give us information on sequencing of chemo.
- 22:34If you can spare it upfront.
- 22:36If you add it to the
- 22:38immunotherapy if that will help.
- 22:40And ultimately because we are
- 22:42collecting tissue from this trial,
- 22:44we're going to be looking for
- 22:46prognostic signatures for Pember Lizum
- 22:49app and predictive signatures for
- 22:51addition of chemo to immunotherapy.
- 22:53This is also an IIT of mine in small
- 22:57cell which with the biopsy upfront
- 22:59and then on treatment at week four
- 23:03after after treatment with EPI,
- 23:05Nevo and this trial has 17 patients
- 23:08who started on it with 10 paired pre
- 23:12and on treatment biopsies and this
- 23:15trial is open in our network and we've
- 23:18had 11 accruals from our network and
- 23:21I think that's important because.
- 23:24Talking to colleagues of bars
- 23:26across the country who have networks
- 23:29and who are trying to do.
- 23:32Clinical trials they've really relied
- 23:34on industry sponsored the cooperative,
- 23:36and very few actually have have
- 23:39diploid Iits in in the network.
- 23:42So this this just shows you a number
- 23:45of the items that we have and you can
- 23:49see that here's 12 accruals or 30% of
- 23:53Doctor Lacey's modified folfirinox,
- 23:55and in this case Doctor Kim Johans.
- 23:58That's 88% of her seven out of eight
- 24:02accruals for her and you know,
- 24:04for Doctor Nipper,
- 24:06it's a 4040% of her her accruals
- 24:09for her IIT as well so.
- 24:12I think this is really important research
- 24:16and support of our investigators at Yale.
- 24:21So what is the future hold?
- 24:23Among other things,
- 24:24I think there are certainly opportunities
- 24:27for building multidisciplinary care
- 24:29to enhance our Smiler signature of
- 24:32care in the network and to build
- 24:34on our current Med.
- 24:35Onken Hemang Craddock networks to
- 24:37support and our surgical oncology
- 24:39representation.
- 24:40We are developing formalized multi
- 24:42D clinics and that some of the work
- 24:45that I'm going to carry on in my
- 24:47integration role and strengthen
- 24:49our alignment with disease teams.
- 24:52And certainly our disease centers
- 24:54to provide service excellence
- 24:56and positive patient outcomes.
- 24:58This is my favorite slide.
- 25:00This is what I think is the most
- 25:03exciting piece of all of this
- 25:05is not not numbers of patients,
- 25:08but really I think the faculty that have
- 25:11joined his care center is one of them.
- 25:14Francesca is going to give a
- 25:16grand rounds right after me.
- 25:18They all master clinicians.
- 25:20They have devoted their really the
- 25:23clinical arm of a female cancer and
- 25:26smilow cancer hospital within the
- 25:28within the community and all have
- 25:31joined with the disease teams to
- 25:33do you know any number of really
- 25:37exciting things.
- 25:38BPI on trials do collaborative
- 25:40research projects, develop Qi projects,
- 25:42help teaching our house staff and
- 25:45anymore so it has really been my
- 25:48honor to represent these folks and
- 25:50to work with them. And I I can't.
- 25:55I can't emphasize enough that it's
- 25:58really been a work collaborative
- 26:00work of many, many,
- 26:02many hands to to build the network,
- 26:05including Charlie and Lori.
- 26:07Kevin Billingsley,
- 26:08Kim's lesser art flim, Aleesa Chomsky,
- 26:11Monica Fradkin, Connie Engelking,
- 26:12Roy Herbst,
- 26:13Stephanie Pauline, have invested so forth.
- 26:16Jeremy Court Manske will take over as the
- 26:20Chief Network Officer for Medical Services
- 26:23and head up the medication he Monk.
- 26:26And I will be focused on really developing
- 26:29the service lines and integration
- 26:31with our delivery care networks.
- 26:33So thank you for the time and.
- 26:37Think I. I'm done so I'd love to
- 26:40answer any questions if if there
- 26:42were any. Thanks and that was wonderful.
- 26:44And congratulations on a very well
- 26:46deserved promotion and we see why.
- 26:48So we have a few questions.
- 26:50Please put them in the chat.
- 26:52Melinda Erling comments were lucky to have
- 26:54this infrastructure with the care centers.
- 26:56I know a lot of non therapeutic
- 26:58interventional research being done in the
- 27:00care centers related to tobacco control,
- 27:01nutrition, exercise and obesity,
- 27:03so I will just follow up and say no.
- 27:07Make it secure.
- 27:08Diverse state as you go up
- 27:09and down the 95 corridor.
- 27:11How are we trying to help increase the
- 27:13diversity of our patient population at
- 27:14our care centers to get more patients
- 27:16from diverse backgrounds on trials?
- 27:18That's certainly something that
- 27:19we can now do that we have so
- 27:21much integration within the state.
- 27:25Great great great question.
- 27:26I'm just going to go back and share
- 27:29my screen again so you can see
- 27:31who's doing a lot of this work.
- 27:33You know, Melinda, that's a that's a
- 27:36planted question because we just put
- 27:39together a narrow one to study the
- 27:41lean interventions in the care centers,
- 27:44and I think that's going to be really
- 27:48exciting groups if you look here.
- 27:51This is Andrea Silver and she's
- 27:53done a lot of work actually devoted,
- 27:56you know, one of her passions is
- 27:59in in increasing under increasing
- 28:02representation of of of.
- 28:04In clinical trials and and
- 28:06addressing disparities of care,
- 28:08and she's done a number of things,
- 28:11including that grant the
- 28:13initial grant called own it,
- 28:15which was oncology works
- 28:17with New Haven getting.
- 28:20Community representatives to
- 28:21weigh in on what kind of research
- 28:24is done in the in at smilow and
- 28:27building those relationships.
- 28:28I think that you know our our latest
- 28:31cancer Grant has been incredibly.
- 28:35You know there's been a big focus on
- 28:38trying to increase representation of of
- 28:39of of folks in our in our clinical trials,
- 28:43and that certainly is a focus for us.
- 28:47Right, that's that wonderful one.
- 28:48More question.
- 28:49And then we'll move on.
- 28:50Someone comments. It's amazing
- 28:51how you built these tumor boards,
- 28:53even before anyone knew what zoom was.
- 28:55So now that we have zoom in,
- 28:58everyone can zoom from their
- 28:59phone from their walk.
- 29:00Can we use this technology to
- 29:02further integrate?
- 29:03You know multi modality,
- 29:04care subspecialty care with you
- 29:06showed us 55 or so doctors around the state.
- 29:08Are we using these tools of
- 29:10Tele Health to do even better
- 29:12now to integrate our care?
- 29:15Yeah, I mean, I think that with
- 29:18covid we've really we toggled up
- 29:20to over 50% of usage and adoption
- 29:23of telehealth during last spring.
- 29:25And and I think that we have.
- 29:28You know initiatives on next day
- 29:30access and improving access that
- 29:32we can utilize Tele health for,
- 29:35and certainly within our multi D clinics
- 29:37were thinking about doing that as well.
- 29:40I think there's a lot of innovation and
- 29:43you know I'll I'll mention you know again,
- 29:46Melinda's talked.
- 29:47I didn't talk about the non therapeutics,
- 29:50but we certainly have used the care
- 29:52centers as places to participate
- 29:54with the smoking cessation.
- 29:56Joe Biden Moon shot initiative.
- 29:58As well as.
- 30:00You know collect samples for Stephanie,
- 30:02Aliens, NDS,
- 30:03registry and and and and you know attempts
- 30:06to understand the science behind that.
- 30:08So I think there's just you know no
- 30:11end to what you can do with with the
- 30:14resources and the team that we have.
- 30:17Great well thanks Anne.
- 30:19Wonderful talking again,
- 30:20congratulations.
- 30:20So we have a second speaker,
- 30:23it's Doctor Francisca Montinari,
- 30:25Doctor Martner.
- 30:26Doctor Martin Ari is an assistant
- 30:28professor of clinical medicine in the
- 30:30hematology section and cares for patients
- 30:32with hematologic malignancies at our
- 30:34southernmost care center in Greenwich.
- 30:36Documentary recently joined Yell from
- 30:38the New York Presbyterian Hospital,
- 30:40Columbia University Medical Center,
- 30:42College of Physicians and Surgeons,
- 30:43which she was assistant Professor
- 30:45of medicine and Experimental
- 30:47Therapies Therapeutics in the
- 30:49Center for Lymphoid Malignancies.
- 30:51Doctor Montanari received her medical degree
- 30:53from the University of Pavia in Italy,
- 30:55which she graduated Magna ***
- 30:56laude and completed both residency
- 30:58and Fellowship and New York
- 30:59University School of Medicine,
- 31:00but she was awarded the Fellow
- 31:02of the Year Teaching Award.
- 31:04She served on the Institutional Review
- 31:06Board Committee and as director of
- 31:07the Institutional Lymphoma Tumor
- 31:09Board at Columbia University,
- 31:10and he is part of the steering committee
- 31:12of the Lymphoma Research Foundation,
- 31:14New York.
- 31:15Lymphoma rounds were so lucky to have
- 31:16been able to recruit Francisca recently,
- 31:19and she's going to talk to us now.
- 31:21About post transplant
- 31:23lymphoproliferative disorders franceska.
- 31:28Thank you for the introduction,
- 31:30so I'll share my screen.
- 31:38OK, so good afternoon everybody.
- 31:41I will review today was transparently
- 31:44proliferative disorders.
- 31:46So here's my disclosures. So we are.
- 31:50We will review together and how PLD
- 31:53are classified according to the
- 31:56most recent WHL classification,
- 31:59the Epidemiology, the risk factors
- 32:01at timing of onset prognosis,
- 32:04and therapeutic options including
- 32:06a current treatment paradigms,
- 32:08ongoing clinical trials and
- 32:11future directions.
- 32:13So let's start with the classification under
- 32:17the revised 2016 W 2 classification post.
- 32:21Transplant lymphoproliferative disorder
- 32:22are classified under the immune deficiency.
- 32:26Associated lymphoproliferative disorders,
- 32:28along with lymphoproliferative diseases
- 32:30associated with primary immune disorder,
- 32:33HIV infection and other
- 32:36iatrogenic immunodeficiency.
- 32:37Um, by definition they are any lymphoid
- 32:40or plasmacytic proliferation that develop
- 32:43as a consequence of immuno suppression.
- 32:45In order sequence of a solid
- 32:48organ or stem cell allograft,
- 32:50it is considered officiality.
- 32:52And based on the new classification,
- 32:55the device classification detailed
- 32:57include nondestructive PTL.
- 32:59These further subclassified
- 33:00into plasmacytic hyperplasia.
- 33:02Infectious modern closes like and
- 33:04Florida follicular pleasure which is
- 33:07a new entity under the new revision,
- 33:10polymorphic deity monomorphic TLD
- 33:12that comes into the B cell neoplasm
- 33:15and T cell nail Plaza and the
- 33:18classical Hodgkin lymphoma.
- 33:20So purely nondestructive,
- 33:22these diseases are classified based
- 33:24on the is the is the pathology major
- 33:28findings and undersell prevalence.
- 33:29There is usually preservation
- 33:31of the architecture,
- 33:33and these are polyclonal B cell
- 33:35proliferation by immunophenotyping
- 33:37genetic studies.
- 33:38There typically be positive the
- 33:40responsive to MENA suppression
- 33:43reduction in most of the cases and
- 33:45they are usually seen in kids.
- 33:48So in the pediatric population.
- 33:50So we do see on the bottom an example
- 33:53of plasmacytic hyperplasia with the
- 33:56preservation of the architecture
- 33:58of the lymph node and infiltrates
- 34:01of abundant plasma cells. Peter D.
- 34:04Polymorphic this is an entity that
- 34:07is characterized by either a genius
- 34:10mix of immunoblastic plasma cell
- 34:12and different size. The lymphocytes.
- 34:14The architectural is the architecture
- 34:17is usually faced.
- 34:18These are mostly polyclonal but
- 34:20presence of monoclonal B cell have
- 34:23been described and detected by
- 34:25immuno phenotype and genetic tool.
- 34:28There mostly EBV positive and
- 34:30some of them have been sealed.
- 34:33Six somatic hypermutation.
- 34:34So here's an example of
- 34:37architectural effacement on the left,
- 34:39with the associated to a large area
- 34:41of necrosis and on the right variable
- 34:44size and shape lymphoid infiltrate.
- 34:49Monomorphic PTSD, those are the one
- 34:51that do fulfill the criteria for non
- 34:54Hodgkin lymphoma or plasma cell neoplasm,
- 34:56small B cell lymphoma are not considered
- 34:59at not the designated as PTLT,
- 35:02with the exception of the beaded positive
- 35:05extranodal marginal zone lymphoma that
- 35:07usually arise in the cutaneous or
- 35:09subcutaneous tissue and this is because
- 35:12their standardized incidence ratio
- 35:13is not different than in the regular
- 35:16population and they're not started to happen.
- 35:19As a consequence of the immune suppression,
- 35:22besides those any other kind of non Hodgkin
- 35:25lymphoma is considered uppity ality.
- 35:27So the architecture defacement
- 35:29is usually present.
- 35:30Immuno, phenotypic and genetic features
- 35:32are typically recapitulating what we do
- 35:34see individual competent counterpart.
- 35:36And here I included an example
- 35:39on the left of.
- 35:42You should be selling for infiltrating.
- 35:45Lymph node and underwrite dereza.
- 35:47An example.
- 35:48This is a renal allograft biopsy with the
- 35:52showing about this planning T cell gamma,
- 35:56Delta,
- 35:56T cell lymphoma with the characteristic
- 36:00infiltration of the small blood vessels.
- 36:03Finally,
- 36:04classical Hodgkin lymphoma has
- 36:06also been associated and described
- 36:09in the setting of post transplant
- 36:11and is considered to be APTLD.
- 36:13It fulfills the criteria for the
- 36:15high school informing that we do
- 36:18see and immunocompetent population,
- 36:20but is typically mixed cellularity.
- 36:22It's always EBV positive and we
- 36:24do see that predominantly in the
- 36:27renal transplant recipients.
- 36:29Therapies treated like the Hodgkin
- 36:31lymphoma and immuno competent counterpart
- 36:34and here an example of a release time.
- 36:37Excel on the bottom surrounded
- 36:39by an inflammatory background of
- 36:41lymphocytes and using a fields.
- 36:44And this is our typical greatest number
- 36:47Excel with the city 20 CD 30 positive ITI.
- 36:50So very very Inter genius group of diseases.
- 36:53And so how?
- 36:55How frequently are our diesel informers?
- 36:58So we do about 40,000 transplant
- 37:00every year in the United States and
- 37:03period is the second most common
- 37:05malignancy in this patient population
- 37:08behind non Melanoma skin cancer.
- 37:10So it accounts for 21% of all the
- 37:13cancers in recipients of solid organ
- 37:16transplant as compared to only four
- 37:18to 5% of the cancers and immuno
- 37:21competent population.
- 37:22The incidence has increased over
- 37:24the past two decades and this is
- 37:27for a variety of reasons.
- 37:29The increased age at the older age
- 37:31of the Gilded Age of and owner and
- 37:35recipients new immunosuppressive treatment.
- 37:38The introduction of the haploidentical stem
- 37:41cell transplant and improved awareness
- 37:43of the disease and diagnostic schools.
- 37:46So after a solid organ transplant,
- 37:49the risk of developing a PLD
- 37:52varies for over 20% two point,
- 37:558% depending on the organ transplanted
- 37:57multi visceral intestinal being associated
- 38:00with a higher risk followed by lung,
- 38:03heart,
- 38:04liver,
- 38:04pancreas and with kidney being
- 38:06the carrying the lower risk for
- 38:09multiple attic stem cell transplant.
- 38:12The risks varies based on the
- 38:14HLA degree of the HLA matching.
- 38:17And the and the need for T cell depletion.
- 38:21So it is a highest for upload denticle
- 38:25without this addition 20% and it goes
- 38:28down to 3% in recipients of matched
- 38:31related dollar hematopoetic stem
- 38:32cell transplant. So what do we know
- 38:36in terms of risk factors besides
- 38:38the type of the transplant of the
- 38:41transplanted organ or the type of
- 38:44allogeneic stem cell transplant?
- 38:46For recipients of solid organ transplant,
- 38:48it is an established risk factor.
- 38:51The degree of Mr.
- 38:52EBV mismatch at the time of transplantation
- 38:54with the recipients being a big
- 38:57negative and the donor EBV positive.
- 39:00Also, the intensity of the induction,
- 39:03immunosuppression,
- 39:03treatment and duration of
- 39:05maintenance therapy,
- 39:05including increased the need of
- 39:07treatment due to graft rejection episodes.
- 39:10There is a strong evidence
- 39:12associated with the use of
- 39:13certain immunosuppressive drug.
- 39:18And in contact with others that
- 39:21are less associated and weak,
- 39:23evidence of risk is associated
- 39:26with infectious diseases and
- 39:28non EBV infection for instance,
- 39:31and other characteristics,
- 39:32genetic characteristics or
- 39:34underlying comorbidities of the host.
- 39:37For hematopoietic stem
- 39:38cell transplant recipient,
- 39:40age seems to be the biggest risk
- 39:43factor for development of these
- 39:46diseases and the conditioning.
- 39:48Regiment. Um also, um.
- 39:54So in terms of timing,
- 39:56typically PTSD arrives early in
- 39:58the setting of hematopoetic stem.
- 40:00The transplant and leader in the
- 40:03setting of a solid organ transplant,
- 40:06but it's not really that predictable.
- 40:08We considered an early onset if the
- 40:11PTSD arise in the first year after
- 40:14the transplant and the late onset,
- 40:17if it arises a year later.
- 40:19Starting one year after the transplant and.
- 40:24And the reason the battle,
- 40:26the pathogenesis is associated in the
- 40:29early onset to an acute EBV infection
- 40:32or a reactivation of the virus in
- 40:35the setting of a reduction of the
- 40:38MTV cytotoxic T cell lymphocytes,
- 40:40usually early PTLDREB positive,
- 40:41and frequently there is the
- 40:44allograft is involved.
- 40:45In the late onset there have been
- 40:49many hypothesis so hidden around
- 40:51the infection with the baby,
- 40:54then resolved and lymphoma keeps
- 40:57developing other viruses besides
- 40:59BV has been hypothesized as
- 41:01playing a role such as CMV,
- 41:04a persistent antigenic stimulation
- 41:06done by the allograft and lymphocyte
- 41:09deregulation in the setting of a
- 41:12chronic immuno suppressed state.
- 41:14These are usually.
- 41:16More likely,
- 41:17extra node with Extranodal involvement,
- 41:19not necessarily involving
- 41:21the graft and the monomorphic
- 41:24subtype is the most common.
- 41:27So what do we know about the prognosis
- 41:29of this disease that are regarding
- 41:32prognosis are mostly from single
- 41:34institution retrospective analysis and
- 41:36during my time at Columbia University
- 41:38I work on setting up a tumor bank
- 41:41for this disease with pathological
- 41:43specimen link to clinical information,
- 41:45and this is what we have learned
- 41:48from the analysis of 120 patients.
- 41:50This is the largest series published
- 41:52so far on this specific disease.
- 41:55Interestingly,
- 41:55most of the clinical.
- 41:57Features that we think might
- 41:59predict an outcome might have an
- 42:02impact on the overall survival.
- 42:04Did not correlate with overall
- 42:06survival in our patient population,
- 42:08including the subtype of the PTSD,
- 42:11the decade of diagnosis prior or after
- 42:14the introduction of their attack.
- 42:16Some organ do kind of organ transplanted
- 42:19DV status, graft involvement,
- 42:20and extranodal involvement
- 42:22or stage of diagnosis.
- 42:23So using a recursive partitioning model,
- 42:26we separated patient.
- 42:28Recursively,
- 42:29at each step into two distinct
- 42:31groups based on the variables that
- 42:33provided the maximal separation based
- 42:35on survival and using this model,
- 42:37we were able to identify based on
- 42:39age CD 20 expression and equal status
- 42:42for groups that were well separated
- 42:45in terms of roll survival and with
- 42:47an even number of patient and in the
- 42:50lowest group we can see that the
- 42:53medium overall survival was not reached.
- 42:55Those were essentially mostly pediatric
- 42:57patients with a good performance status.
- 42:59What is in the very high risk group
- 43:02elderly with a foot Burma status and
- 43:04essentially all patients with the
- 43:06CD? Twenty negative disease,
- 43:07the median overall survival was
- 43:09as short as one point 3 months.
- 43:11So what else we have learned,
- 43:14we know very well that T cell lymphoma
- 43:17have a much worse prognosis than Bissell
- 43:20informal immunocompetent population.
- 43:22But what are?
- 43:25What is the behavior of this LPT?
- 43:27LD is not well, no,
- 43:29not due to the rarity of these diseases.
- 43:32So we did analyze in our series of
- 43:34pulling over monomorphic PTSD and the
- 43:37differences between B cells and T cell TLD.
- 43:40And we do see that they sort of
- 43:42recapitulate what we do see and
- 43:44immuno competent counterpart in
- 43:46terms of prognosis with the median
- 43:48overall survival being very low
- 43:50for the T cell and compared to
- 43:53the diesel in monomorphic PLD.
- 43:55Also, we did observe that the time
- 43:57of the median time to answer it was
- 44:00much longer for T cell nine years
- 44:02compared to three years for the B
- 44:05cell type and all T cell period in
- 44:08our series were leaving negative.
- 44:11Another thing that that we we have
- 44:14also learned is that importance of more
- 44:17marrow of staging and the incidents
- 44:20of more involvement in the in PLD.
- 44:23It is very common in our series of
- 44:26patients at 23% of monomorphic PLD
- 44:29had bone marrow involvement compared
- 44:32in the in the T cell subtypes 50%.
- 44:35Also,
- 44:36polymorphic exhibited our very
- 44:37high bone marrow involvement.
- 44:3915.7 All the cases of polymorphic with
- 44:42where bone marrow involvement was detected.
- 44:46This resulted in up stage of the disease.
- 44:51And ever involvement was
- 44:52associated with poorer outcome.
- 44:54So we did compare the incidence of
- 44:57the involvement of Lombardy Boomer
- 44:59involvement in monomorphic PTSD compared
- 45:01to the normal diffuse large B cell
- 45:04lymphoma and HIV diffuse large B cell
- 45:06lymphoma patients diagnosed during
- 45:08the same time frame at our institution
- 45:11and we do see here that monomorphic,
- 45:14detailed involvement compared to
- 45:15the HIV positive diffuse large B
- 45:18cell involvement and this is suggest
- 45:20that that immuno compromised.
- 45:22State regardless of videology
- 45:24vial associated or higher trajanic
- 45:27maybe is a major risk factor for
- 45:31dissemination to the marrow.
- 45:32Finally,
- 45:33this is a loser.
- 45:36Analyze last year actually two years ago
- 45:38and this was presented at ASH in 2019.
- 45:40We did analyze the data regarding
- 45:42the cell of origin and the impact
- 45:45of treatment on the outcome of
- 45:47diffuse large B cell lymphoma.
- 45:49So these type and in our series
- 45:51non germinal center was more
- 45:53common than germinal center.
- 45:55I just want to highlight here that as
- 45:58previously reported and non germinal
- 46:00center PTSD is usually be positive
- 46:02versus germinal center is usually it will
- 46:05be negative clinical characteristic,
- 46:07organ transplant,
- 46:08immunosuppressive,
- 46:08treatment time of onset was not different
- 46:12in these two subtypes and there is a
- 46:14trend suggesting a better outcome,
- 46:16a better PFS and OS in patients with.
- 46:19Germinal standard compared to non
- 46:21germinal center mirroring the outcome
- 46:23in Indiana competent population
- 46:25and RE broker did not improve
- 46:27overall survival or progression.
- 46:28Free survival were compared
- 46:30to R chop but in not
- 46:32resulted also either in an increase
- 46:35toxicity in our series was
- 46:37extremely low and only one patient
- 46:39died in each treatment group.
- 46:43So the current challenges for PT LDR
- 46:45that this is an uncommon disease,
- 46:47as we saw there is a bigot originality
- 46:50in in the type of PTSD that is it
- 46:53originality in the patient population,
- 46:56in the allograft or multiply
- 46:58attic stem cell transplant,
- 46:59and immunosuppressive treatment they
- 47:01receive that is a high mortality rate
- 47:04that is associated with the chemotherapy
- 47:06and this is usually in length to
- 47:08the increased risk of infection
- 47:10that we do see in these patients.
- 47:13Population and unique to this patient
- 47:15population is the risk of graft failure.
- 47:18So currently general principle of treatment
- 47:23include immunosuppression reduction.
- 47:26I just want to mention that the
- 47:29only perspective trial that utilize
- 47:31immuno suppression reduction as part
- 47:33of a sequential treatment for this
- 47:36disease on a very large sample of
- 47:39you know on a very large number of
- 47:42patients 160 patient showed a 40%
- 47:45incidence of acute graft reaction.
- 47:47So typical in the adult population
- 47:50immunosuppression reduction
- 47:51is utilized at the same time.
- 47:53Other interventions such as
- 47:55rituximab are or combination.
- 47:56Chemotherapy surgery, radiation therapy.
- 47:58Unlikely.
- 47:59What we do see in Hodgkin and an
- 48:02article in former is a well established
- 48:06the treatment for stage one disease,
- 48:09PTSD and in the relapsed and
- 48:12refractory setting.
- 48:13There are adoptive immunotherapy
- 48:16utilizing EBV specific cytotoxic
- 48:18T cells and high dose chemotherapy
- 48:22with a toddler stem cell transplant
- 48:25or both being explored.
- 48:27So there are only few prospective trials,
- 48:31primarily on polymorphic and
- 48:33monomorphic beissel. PTSD and hold the.
- 48:37Stop for trials here.
- 48:39Um,
- 48:39use their attack some as a single
- 48:42agent with a very high with a good
- 48:45overall response rate under an CR rate,
- 48:48but not exciting overall survival
- 48:49due to early relapse is the best
- 48:52results that have been achieved
- 48:54that utilizing either a sequential
- 48:56treatment or a risk stratifies
- 48:58sequential treatment and this is the
- 49:00PTL D1 trials that is the largest
- 49:02phase two trial ever conducted
- 49:04in this patient population and
- 49:07reported by the German.
- 49:08Study group so will review
- 49:11the results of the PD L D1.
- 49:14The risk stratified sequential treatment.
- 49:17This was published in JCO in 2017.
- 49:21Patients were with that newly diagnosis
- 49:24of PTSD received an induction treatment
- 49:26with rituximab and then based on
- 49:28their response they received the
- 49:30consolidation with rituximab alone
- 49:32or they were escalated to our CHOP
- 49:35and 152 patients were enrolled again.
- 49:37This is the largest study in this
- 49:39disease that has ever been conducted
- 49:42and we do still at 1/4 of them
- 49:45after the initial induction with
- 49:47maximum achieved a CR and these were
- 49:50the patient that did not receive.
- 49:52Um,
- 49:53instead of toxic treatment,
- 49:55the overall response rate was a
- 49:58dieta CR rate 70%.
- 50:00Army generation of response was
- 50:02not reached and let me down.
- 50:04Overall survival was 6.6 years
- 50:06treatment related mortality in this
- 50:08study was 8% which is the lowest
- 50:11reported in this patient population and
- 50:13this is a attribute.
- 50:14This has been attributed to the
- 50:16fact that a quarter of the patients
- 50:19were spared cytotoxic chemotherapy.
- 50:21So. What's new in PID.
- 50:24Recently over the past five
- 50:26years it has been more and more
- 50:29recognized than PTSD tend to be.
- 50:32CD 30 positive So this is a study by vision.
- 50:36Others that showed that out of
- 50:38108 patients with PTSD diagnosed
- 50:40between 1994 and 2011, it was 85%.
- 50:43Of this patient expresses CD 30 including
- 50:4681% of the diffuse large B cell lymphoma.
- 50:50This is very particular to
- 50:52the query after the PTLD.
- 50:54Because in the immunocompetent,
- 50:56if you started selling for my
- 50:58usually city third expression is
- 51:00probably less than 20% and not only
- 51:03demonstrated a high CD 30 expression.
- 51:05They also demonstrated that it was
- 51:08associated with a better outcome. So.
- 51:11Twice this interesting or important,
- 51:14we now have a drug that targets
- 51:17specifically city 30 brentuximab windowed
- 51:19and is an antibody drug conjugate
- 51:22that binds to the city 30 and one.
- 51:26Since the internalised release,
- 51:27monumental restarting E which is
- 51:30microtubule disrupting agent which
- 51:32end up like causing apoptosis.
- 51:34As we all know,
- 51:35grant access method Odin is now
- 51:37approved with various indication in
- 51:40Hodgkin lymphoma anaplastic large.
- 51:42Calling from.
- 51:45So in 2019,
- 51:46at the ASH meeting,
- 51:48the results of these Phase 1 two
- 51:51trial of Brentuximab in Jordan plus
- 51:53rituximab as frontline treatment for
- 51:56patients with immuno suppression
- 51:58associated lymphoma were presented and
- 52:00in the this was a very small study.
- 52:0422 patients with previously untreated
- 52:07immunosuppression associated.
- 52:09Little pretty effective disorder,
- 52:10including 1516 patients were PTSD
- 52:12post transplant clipart affective
- 52:13disorder patients who receive
- 52:15an induction were attacks.
- 52:17In other words,
- 52:18given in combination with Brent
- 52:19accidents and Odin and patient worry
- 52:22stage and according to their response,
- 52:24they either received more out
- 52:26attacks immigrant tax map in loading
- 52:28as consolidation and maintenance,
- 52:29or if they had progression of
- 52:32disease were removed from the study.
- 52:35Again, small study,
- 52:36very short follow-up about
- 52:38encouraging result with a very
- 52:40high overall response rate,
- 52:41and see a rate of 60% so.
- 52:45I'm I'm very excited to announce
- 52:47that I that we're about to open a
- 52:50phase two trial for this patient
- 52:53population here in the Yale network,
- 52:55and this is going to be a trial
- 52:58in collaboration with them.
- 53:00Are you clinic and with UVI so is
- 53:021/2 is just trial where patients with
- 53:05post transplant lymphoproliferative
- 53:07disorder CD 20 and CD 30 positive
- 53:10which essentially is the vast
- 53:12majority of PTSD will receive
- 53:14an induction treatment with.
- 53:15Maximum burn toxin overload and
- 53:17and then based on the response
- 53:20at a pet city after induction,
- 53:22they will receive more of the same
- 53:24treatment so and there will be spared
- 53:27of cytotoxic treatment or will be
- 53:29escalated to rituximab, Pentax,
- 53:31Melvin Gordon, and Bendamustine,
- 53:33for a total of 6 cycles.
- 53:35Primary objective of the study.
- 53:37Our overall response rate complete
- 53:39and partial at the end of the
- 53:42treatment and PFS secondary objective.
- 53:44Intend to explore.
- 53:45Additional responsibilities at
- 53:47the end of the
- 53:48induction phase,
- 53:50which include the grant axiom of
- 53:52windowed in on top of rituximab,
- 53:55duration of response and overall survival,
- 53:57and we're planning to also deep dive
- 54:00into the frequency of infection.
- 54:02Peripheral sensory neuropathy,
- 54:04then rate doesn't craft of interaction
- 54:06and treatment related mortality.
- 54:08Exploratory studies.
- 54:10Are at the end to identify new biological
- 54:13and genetic markers that might be
- 54:15productive to response resistance
- 54:17to this therapeutic combination.
- 54:19So. Um?
- 54:23I'm going to leave you with this last slide,
- 54:26future strategies and these are.
- 54:28This is a list of the clinical trials
- 54:30that are currently about to recruit
- 54:32or recruiting for this for post
- 54:35transplant lymphoproliferative disorder.
- 54:37This top line is the study is our
- 54:40study that I just mentioned and
- 54:42we're about to open here at Yale
- 54:45and then the reason I just want to
- 54:48highlight the days a second study is.
- 54:53Study that follows up the PLD
- 54:56one trial from the German group,
- 54:58whether increasing where they're
- 55:00integrating the IPI score and the organ
- 55:03transplanted to further risk stratify
- 55:06patients after induction with rituximab
- 55:08and I have substituted rituximab
- 55:10subcu to the regular attacks enough
- 55:13that they used in the PTL D1 trial.
- 55:17Another trial that I would keep an
- 55:19eye on is there tax amount plus
- 55:22a club routine atrial that is not
- 55:24yet recruiting and is going to be
- 55:27done in Cleveland and besides this
- 55:29retrial which address the untreated
- 55:31population in the refractory setting,
- 55:32there are a lot of trials with
- 55:34the adoptive T cell treatment.
- 55:38And with this and this,
- 55:40is it? So thank you for your attention.
- 55:46Thank you, that was a wonderful
- 55:49talk and it's great to see that
- 55:51you have a trial and I guess
- 55:53it's opening Greninger will be.
- 55:55So very very well linked to the
- 55:57first talk we heard from Ann.
- 55:58Do you have any questions or comments
- 56:00where we're just about a time,
- 56:02but we might have time for one or two?
- 56:04If there are any.
- 56:09Are you seeing a lot of this
- 56:11in your practice right now?
- 56:13Princeska in Greenwich?
- 56:15Currently have one patient which is,
- 56:17which is a lot considering that
- 56:19I've just started two months ago.
- 56:21So we have we typically used to have.
- 56:25Colombia is a big transplant
- 56:27center and we we tend to.
- 56:29We were we were seeing a lot of
- 56:32these patients, but to say a lot
- 56:36was about 20-30 cases per year.
- 56:38Just to put this in context, so this is
- 56:41a rare disease weapon.
- 56:43As we grow Greenwich as a expert site,
- 56:45you know for these types of
- 56:47diseases you'll get you'll draw
- 56:49more and more from Manhattan,
- 56:50and where I'm sure there are
- 56:52many post transplant patients,
- 56:53Francine Flash has a question.
- 56:55She asks any role for checkpoint
- 56:57inhibitors in these EBV driven tumors.
- 57:00This is a very good good question and
- 57:03I think that due to the peculiarity
- 57:06of these patients population,
- 57:08which are recipients of hematopoietic
- 57:09stem cell transplant or solid organ
- 57:12transplant, there is a lot of.
- 57:16We're very worried about causing
- 57:18it'd have to be action or graft
- 57:21versus host disease, and so I don't.
- 57:24I'm not aware of any study
- 57:26utilizing checkpoint inhibitors in
- 57:29this specific patient population.
- 57:33OK, maybe I see a study in the making,
- 57:35maybe an investigator initiated trial.
- 57:38Well, our Francisco that was great.
- 57:40Thank you so much.
- 57:41Welcome to the group you've.
- 57:42It's great to have you and this
- 57:44will end grand rounds for today.
- 57:46I want to thank Renee and her team
- 57:48for helping get this set up and I hope
- 57:50everyone has a good rest of the day.
- 57:53Will see you see you soon.
- 57:56Thank you, thanks everyone.