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MS Chronic Disease Epidemiology Information Session

November 08, 2021

Dr. Christian Tschudi, Director of Graduate Studies
Dr. Andrew DeWan, Associate Professor of Epidemiology (Chronic Diseases)

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Transcript

  • 00:01<v ->So I'm, I'm Andy Dewan,</v>
  • 00:05I am an Associate Professor in Chronic Disease Epidemiology.
  • 00:10I'm also a member
  • 00:11of the Graduate Studies Executive Committee,
  • 00:14which oversees both the PhD and MS program.
  • 00:19With us tonight is Dr. Christian Tschudi.
  • 00:23He's the Director of Graduate Studies
  • 00:24and a Professor in Epidemiology and Microbial Diseases.
  • 00:29And then we also have three alumni of our MS program,
  • 00:33Talha Ali, Ujunwa Korie, and Ronald Chow.
  • 00:39So, I'm gonna start by just giving a brief introduction
  • 00:43to the Department of Chronic Disease Epidemiology,
  • 00:47and then to the specifically about the MS program in CDE.
  • 00:53Feel free to interrupt me in the middle of my presentation
  • 00:57or at the end of the session when we really just open it up
  • 01:02for more of a Q&amp;A.
  • 01:04And then after I give an introduction,
  • 01:07we'll have our three alumni talk just briefly
  • 01:11about their experiences.
  • 01:12I'm sure you're gonna be much more interested
  • 01:14to hear from them and their specific experiences.
  • 01:21Okay, so, who are we?
  • 01:24So, the Department of Chronic Disease Epi
  • 01:27has 13 primary faculty members.
  • 01:31As you're gonna see, we have very diverse research interests
  • 01:35and interests in public health,
  • 01:38but we also have a really large set
  • 01:43of secondary and affiliated faculty.
  • 01:45We have more than, I think we have more than 25 secondary
  • 01:50and affiliated faculty, both in other departments
  • 01:55throughout the School of Medicine
  • 01:57and other departments at the university,
  • 02:00as well as other universities in the United States.
  • 02:05So, I'm sure you've seen on our website,
  • 02:10we have nine major areas of interest among our faculty.
  • 02:16So, there are a lot of us that have an interest in cancer.
  • 02:20We're gonna see, I think I counted last year,
  • 02:24I think half of us are members of the Yale Cancer Center
  • 02:28within the department.
  • 02:30We also have a strong interest in heart disease and stroke.
  • 02:34My specific background is in genetic epidemiology
  • 02:39and there are a couple of other faculty in the department
  • 02:42that have an interest in genetics, genomics,
  • 02:44or molecular epidemiology.
  • 02:46We have faculty interested in exercise,
  • 02:49nutrition, and obesity.
  • 02:51We have a lot of faculty who are interested in global health
  • 02:56and applying their specific area in epidemiology
  • 03:03in a more global setting.
  • 03:05There are several of us who have an interest
  • 03:08in maternal and child health.
  • 03:10I'll talk about the department,
  • 03:12or the center that I direct in in just a minute.
  • 03:18We have faculty that are interested in outcomes research,
  • 03:21health disparities, women's health and aging.
  • 03:25So, we're a really diverse set of faculty,
  • 03:28but we are all sort of centered around this idea
  • 03:34of applying methods in epi research.
  • 03:39Both applying and developing methods in epi research.
  • 03:44So, as I said, and as you can see,
  • 03:48we're a very diverse and interdisciplinary group of faculty.
  • 03:53These are just some of the centers that we're involved in.
  • 03:58You can feel free to go to any of these center websites
  • 04:02to get more information.
  • 04:03You will see that these centers not only have faculty
  • 04:07from CDE, but faculty from other departments
  • 04:10at the School of Public Health,
  • 04:12other departments at the Medical School in the university.
  • 04:16So, there's the Outcomes Research Center,
  • 04:19there's the center that I'm the director of,
  • 04:21the Center for Perinatal, Pediatric
  • 04:23and Environmental Epidemiology.
  • 04:25We're actually a center that spans
  • 04:27three different departments at YSPHA.
  • 04:30We have the Samoan Obesity, Lifestyle
  • 04:33and Genetic Adaptations Study Group.
  • 04:37I mentioned the Cancer Center, but within the Cancer Center,
  • 04:41we have the Yale COPPER Center,
  • 04:43the Cancer Outcomes, Public Policy,
  • 04:46and Effectiveness Research Center.
  • 04:48And then also the Cancer Prevention Program
  • 04:51within the Cancer Center as well.
  • 04:55And I'm not gonna read through this whole list,
  • 04:58but, and it just gives you a bit of a flavor
  • 05:01for the types of research activities that we're doing.
  • 05:06You'll also see that a lot of these centers
  • 05:08have their own lecture series.
  • 05:10You may want to visit some of these centers
  • 05:13to gain access to research experiences.
  • 05:17They're great ways for networking opportunities,
  • 05:20as well as future job opportunities.
  • 05:23So, I think just the number of centers that we have here
  • 05:28are a real strength of our program.
  • 05:32So, I wanted to talk just briefly
  • 05:35about why an MS in CDE rather than an MPH,
  • 05:40because I think this comes up all the time.
  • 05:43And I wanna boil this down to just a couple of phrases.
  • 05:49So, the MPH is a broader public health degree
  • 05:54that, in addition to research,
  • 05:55'cause there is a research component,
  • 05:57it also emphasizes public health practice.
  • 06:01Whereas our MS degree, and specifically the MS degree
  • 06:05in chronic disease epi,
  • 06:07emphasizes the mastery of epidemiologic research methods
  • 06:12in order to conduct high-quality epidemiological research.
  • 06:16So, there is a much narrower focus
  • 06:19on epi research in the MS degree.
  • 06:24And so, hopefully you've had a chance
  • 06:26to look at our curriculum,
  • 06:27but I just wanna go over it pretty quickly.
  • 06:32This is a one-year program.
  • 06:34This is a one-year MS program.
  • 06:37It is 10 credits, so you are typically taking five credits
  • 06:41each semester, so one course equals one credit.
  • 06:45You're gonna have a set of four core courses,
  • 06:49you have three required quantitative courses,
  • 06:52which you'll be able to select from among a list of courses.
  • 06:57You have two CDE courses that you can select from
  • 07:01among a list of those CDE courses.
  • 07:04And then you have one elective course.
  • 07:07And so, let's just look quickly at the,
  • 07:13oops, sorry,
  • 07:16just select that,
  • 07:19it's not letting me go back a slide.
  • 07:21Sorry,
  • 07:23yeah.
  • 07:24Sorry, so let's just take a quick look
  • 07:26at the required core courses.
  • 07:27So, you have your Foundations of Epi for Public Health,
  • 07:30this is what we call Epi I and then Epi II.
  • 07:34And we have a course called Frontiers of Public Health,
  • 07:38which you'll see, if you read the note at the bottom,
  • 07:40if you have a previous MPH degree
  • 07:43or a relevant graduate degree,
  • 07:44you can be exempted from this course.
  • 07:48And then you're gonna either take
  • 07:50the Developing a Research Proposal,
  • 07:53or you're going to do an Independent Study,
  • 07:56which is really a one-on-one course
  • 07:59that you work on with a faculty member in CDE
  • 08:03where you devise an independent readings course,
  • 08:07or this can be a research course,
  • 08:10and then you have a deliverable at the end of that course.
  • 08:13So, either the Developing a Research Proposal
  • 08:15or the Independent Study acts as your capstone course,
  • 08:19and this is done in the spring semester.
  • 08:24You have three non-credit requirements.
  • 08:27You have to take two semesters of the Seminar in CDE.
  • 08:32These are noon seminars,
  • 08:35they happen about five or six times throughout the semester.
  • 08:40In pre-COVID times, we actually offered lunch,
  • 08:44hopefully, we'll be able to offer lunch again soon
  • 08:47for the seminars.
  • 08:48And then you also need to take the Research Ethics
  • 08:50and Responsibilities course.
  • 08:54I mentioned you have to take three quantitative courses.
  • 08:57These can be either upper-level Biostatistics courses,
  • 09:01but there are also, there's one course listed here in CDE
  • 09:05that would fulfill this requirement,
  • 09:07as well as two courses in Statistics and Data Sciences.
  • 09:12But as it's noted at the top, we do consider alternatives
  • 09:17to the courses listed here,
  • 09:18so if there's a new Biostatistics course
  • 09:21that maybe hadn't been offered before,
  • 09:23or a course in Statistics and Data Science
  • 09:26that you really wanna take, you can talk to your advisor
  • 09:30and your advisor or the chair of the department,
  • 09:34the director, and director of graduate studies,
  • 09:37can decide if that course is gonna count
  • 09:40towards this requirement.
  • 09:41So, we are fairly flexible with this requirement.
  • 09:44And then as I mentioned, you need to take two CDE electives.
  • 09:49We have a pretty wide variety of courses.
  • 09:53The course that I teach is actually up here,
  • 09:55Genetic Concepts in Public Health.
  • 09:57But you can see the types of courses kind of mirror
  • 10:02our research interests among the faculty in our department.
  • 10:08So, who should apply?
  • 10:09So, I like to think that applicants
  • 10:12should have a basic understanding of quantitative science
  • 10:14and statistics, but at a minimum,
  • 10:17our applicants should have one year of coursework
  • 10:19in statistics, biostatistics, mathematics
  • 10:22or equivalent quantitative coursework or experience.
  • 10:27And I think this is where we have some flexibility,
  • 10:31but we wanna make sure that applicants to our program
  • 10:35have strong quantitative skills.
  • 10:38As you can see, we did not require the biostat one
  • 10:44and biostat two courses,
  • 10:45but we do require upper-level biostats courses,
  • 10:48so we are assuming that you're coming into the program
  • 10:52with enough statistical background
  • 10:55in order to take these upper-level biostats courses.
  • 11:01I also note here that applicants
  • 11:02with previous medical degrees or those with graduate
  • 11:05or undergraduate degrees from rigorous programs
  • 11:07in biological, computational or social sciences
  • 11:10will be given preference, but that is just a preference,
  • 11:13you're not required to have a degree in any of those areas.
  • 11:18Okay, so that ends what I wanted to say
  • 11:23and I see there are a couple,
  • 11:29yeah, so, why don't we, I'm gonna turn this over,
  • 11:32I think, to our alumni.
  • 11:33I'll read through the questions really quickly.
  • 11:37So, are all of our alumni on?
  • 11:40I can't tell. <v ->Yeah.</v>
  • 11:43<v ->Talha, do you wanna start?</v> <v ->Yeah, they're all on, Andy.</v>
  • 11:46<v ->Okay.</v>
  • 11:55So, if you just wanna say a little bit
  • 11:57about your experience in the program, what you're doing now.
  • 12:02<v ->Sure, I'd be happy to.</v>
  • 12:04Hello, everyone, my name is Talha Ali.
  • 12:08I'm currently doing a postdoctoral fellowship
  • 12:11as it happens at Yale at the School of Medicine
  • 12:14in Geriatrics, but it's hard to believe,
  • 12:18I did my MS about six years ago.
  • 12:22And it was, I wanna say one of the best decisions
  • 12:25that I made.
  • 12:26I knew that I wanted to go into a PhD program
  • 12:30and at the time that I applied,
  • 12:33some PhD programs required that you come in
  • 12:35with a master's programs and others did not.
  • 12:39But I did this one-year program,
  • 12:42it was definitely an intensive,
  • 12:45it's an accelerated program, so it was intensive,
  • 12:47but I think that it set me up really, really well
  • 12:50for the PhD program.
  • 12:51So, I had the taken courses on linear regression,
  • 12:55logistic regression, survival analysis,
  • 12:57I had taken sort of Principles of Epi one and two
  • 13:01and all of those, I think, prepared me really well.
  • 13:04I ended up doing my PhD from the University of Michigan
  • 13:09in Epidemiology and while I was doing the MS,
  • 13:14I had taken a course with Dr. Becca Levy
  • 13:17on health and aging.
  • 13:18So, after my master's, I sort of narrowed down my interests
  • 13:22within chronic disease epi on aging.
  • 13:26And I ended up going to the University of Michigan
  • 13:28and my dissertation was on the social relationships
  • 13:33and networks of older adults and how they influence
  • 13:35their health, cognitive, and physical in late life.
  • 13:40And after finishing my PhD in 2019,
  • 13:44I applied for both doctoral programs
  • 13:47and ended up back at Yale on a T32 training grant.
  • 13:54I'm happy to answer more specific questions
  • 13:56that you have about the program or my trajectory.
  • 14:02Oh, and I noticed someone said,
  • 14:04do you need a degree in public health?
  • 14:07So, my background was in psychology,
  • 14:08I had done a BS in Psychology
  • 14:10and I think I did okay in the program.
  • 14:16<v ->Great, thank you.</v>
  • 14:21Ujunwa.
  • 14:24<v Ujunwa>Hi, thank you for having me here.</v>
  • 14:28Can everyone hear me well? <v ->Yep.</v>
  • 14:31<v Ujunwa>Okay, I really enjoyed my time at Yale.</v>
  • 14:35I really felt like the CDE faculty were very accessible
  • 14:41and that they were invested in our success.
  • 14:44So, I was able to easily get office hours
  • 14:48and talk to all the professors.
  • 14:51So, I left the program with an increased knowledge
  • 14:54of research methodologies and rigor.
  • 14:57A bit of background, I came into the program with an MD
  • 15:01from Ukraine, so, I wanted a program that would help me
  • 15:06to marry my technical skills
  • 15:09and be able to conduct clinical research.
  • 15:12So, I left the program in 2019 and I joined Mount Sinai,
  • 15:17Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai.
  • 15:19So, I joined Judy Chow's lab where we do genetic research
  • 15:25on inflammatory bowel disease.
  • 15:27So, I didn't take your genetic class,
  • 15:29but I ended up doing that,
  • 15:33so, I kind of wished I took that class,
  • 15:35but we're studying the genetics of (indistinct).
  • 15:41And I've found that I've had to apply most
  • 15:45of what I've learned at Yale,
  • 15:47not just the statistics and epidemiological principles,
  • 15:50but also regulatory affairs
  • 15:52and clinical trials and all that.
  • 15:54So, this was a wonderful program for me
  • 15:57and I'm sure it will be for everyone else
  • 16:00if they do apply and get in.
  • 16:02So, I'm most happy to answer questions.
  • 16:06<v ->Great, and I also note that Judy Chow</v>
  • 16:09used to be here at Yale.
  • 16:10<v Ujunwa>Yeah, yeah.</v>
  • 16:11<v ->She left I think eight or nine years ago.</v>
  • 16:13<v Ujunwa>Yes, yes.</v>
  • 16:15She was at Yale, yes, that's right.
  • 16:20<v ->Great, thank you.</v>
  • 16:21Ronald, do you wanna say a couple of words?
  • 16:24<v ->Yeah, it's great to see everyone tonight, or today.</v>
  • 16:28I'm not sure what time zone you're in.
  • 16:31So, I graduated from the MS program, most recently, I guess.
  • 16:35I graduated in May.
  • 16:40Mine was an interesting one, mine was during COVID times.
  • 16:44So, I guess I may be one of the few cohorts
  • 16:47that are 100% online from this program.
  • 16:51But with that said, I have to say that the environment,
  • 16:57the great atmosphere that the professors provide from CDE
  • 17:05can really be transmitted through a computer screen,
  • 17:07just the willingness and openness to teach students.
  • 17:12It was for sure felt, although I wasn't in-person.
  • 17:17I think as Talha and Ujunwa said before me,
  • 17:23it is a great program, it is rigorous,
  • 17:28it is, I think, a little faster than some other programs
  • 17:31that you would, may be entertaining,
  • 17:34but I have to say that it prepares you well.
  • 17:36So, after graduating, I worked in New York
  • 17:40in Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center
  • 17:43helping out with some research projects in cancer.
  • 17:46And although I'm not a bio statistician,
  • 17:48there were times where had to call on some courses
  • 17:52that we learned, which was very helpful.
  • 17:56And I think that it is good if you can enter the program
  • 17:59with foundational biostats knowledge
  • 18:01and it will set you up for better success.
  • 18:05And yeah, I'm sure that I'll continue to use the skills
  • 18:09that I learned from Yale moving forward.
  • 18:12I'm currently in home in Canada at a local medical school
  • 18:16and hope to someday marry
  • 18:18that clinical and research knowledge.
  • 18:20So, it's a good time to get that foundational knowledge
  • 18:24for me and a very memorable experience.
  • 18:36<v ->Great.</v>
  • 18:37Thanks, Ronald.
  • 18:38Chris, did you want to say a couple of words?
  • 18:42I'm not sure if there was anything you wanted to add,
  • 18:46specifically about the MS program.
  • 18:50<v ->Maybe I could just,</v>
  • 18:51I noticed a couple of questions in the chat
  • 18:54about the timeline of admissions.
  • 18:56<v ->Okay.</v> <v ->I could comment on that.</v>
  • 18:58So, the deadline is December 15th.
  • 19:04And since there were also questions
  • 19:07about the GRE and the MCAT, in your application,
  • 19:11you don't necessarily have to have a GRE score
  • 19:14at that point.
  • 19:16So, you can just say it will be taken at a later point.
  • 19:21So, don't get worked up about that, okay?
  • 19:25You can submit your application without a GRE score,
  • 19:28and we require a GRE, but that's not something,
  • 19:33we still will review your application.
  • 19:36And this will happen January, February,
  • 19:39then sort of towards end of February, we'll make decisions
  • 19:43and communicate with the applicants
  • 19:47who we want to matriculate.
  • 19:51At that point, you have until April 15th
  • 19:54to decide what you want to do.
  • 19:58<v ->Great, thanks, Chris.</v>
  • 20:03Caruthe. <v ->Hi.</v>
  • 20:06<v ->Forgive me if...</v> <v ->Yeah.</v>
  • 20:08<v ->Can you hear me?</v> <v ->Yep.</v>
  • 20:10<v Caruthe>Yeah, so just a quick question.</v>
  • 20:13I'm actually still a sophomore in college
  • 20:15and I'm planning on applying my senior year of college,
  • 20:19but is there anything that,
  • 20:22should I take on any public health-related internships
  • 20:26or do any research in order to apply for this program?
  • 20:31Is it recommended or?
  • 20:34<v ->So, I would strongly, I mean, you're gonna need,</v>
  • 20:42as I said, the statistical background,
  • 20:45so if you have the opportunity
  • 20:47to take any courses in biostats or statistics,
  • 20:51you should do that at this point.
  • 20:54You don't need to take any other public health courses,
  • 20:58but I think getting some research experience
  • 21:03would definitely help your chances
  • 21:06at getting admitted to the program.
  • 21:08That's where I would focus my effort.
  • 21:11<v Caruthe>Yeah, so, can this research be in anything</v>
  • 21:14that we're personally interested in,
  • 21:16in regards, in terms to public health?
  • 21:19So, let's say I'm interested in neuroscience research,
  • 21:23would that be applicable?
  • 21:27<v ->Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.</v>
  • 21:29And we've had students come through the program
  • 21:31that had interest in that area.
  • 21:34<v Caruthe>Okay, sure.</v>
  • 21:35Thank you very much.
  • 21:39<v ->There was a question</v>
  • 21:41about appropriate quantitative background.
  • 21:46Yeah, and so, the example was linear algebra,
  • 21:49and I would consider linear algebra appropriate background
  • 21:59for the program.
  • 22:01And I think a biological science, statistics course,
  • 22:06that would also be appropriate.
  • 22:09A lot of epi courses do not go into enough of the statistics
  • 22:15to really, I would say, to count towards that requirement.
  • 22:20I would opt more for a biostatistics course
  • 22:24to meet that requirement.
  • 22:33So, there's a question as to whether or not students
  • 22:36can do this part time.
  • 22:38Chris, that is allowed, right?
  • 22:41<v ->Yes, you have up to five years.</v>
  • 22:43<v ->Okay.</v> <v ->Yep.</v>
  • 22:45Because as you mentioned that we had a couple of MDs
  • 22:48at the Yale Medical School that did the MS
  • 22:51and time constraint makes it very easy
  • 22:55then to do this part time.
  • 22:58<v ->Great.</v>
  • 23:08Abigail, you asked another question
  • 23:10about taking another math course.
  • 23:13What would this be in addition to?
  • 23:16Is this in addition to linear algebra?
  • 23:21Because I would recommend taking a full year
  • 23:24of math or stats courses.
  • 23:30Question about how recent the coursework.
  • 23:35Yeah, I mean, it does not need to be recent,
  • 23:40but note that your GRE needs to be, I think,
  • 23:44within the last five years, is that right, Chris?
  • 23:49We are gonna, when I'm reviewing applications,
  • 23:52I am gonna look at that GRE score, as well,
  • 23:55especially if your current courses
  • 23:58have been pretty far in the past.
  • 24:04<v ->Is it appropriate if I jump in to add a comment here?</v>
  • 24:07<v ->Yeah.</v>
  • 24:08<v ->I think, so there's admissions requirements,</v>
  • 24:11which is one thing, but I think that if you wanna excel
  • 24:15in those quantitative courses that were being mentioned,
  • 24:18I think it's really important
  • 24:19to have an interest in statistics background.
  • 24:23I know that some of my colleagues came in, and myself too,
  • 24:26having done some of these and the first course
  • 24:29that we have to do, which is, I think it's 630,
  • 24:32I don't remember the exact code,
  • 24:35but everything that you learned in an entire semester
  • 24:38of an undergrad intro to statistics course
  • 24:41is dumped in the first two weeks.
  • 24:43So, I think that it's strongly encouraged if you can to,
  • 24:47I understand that admission requirements
  • 24:49are admission requirements, but to set yourself
  • 24:51for good success and not behind the eightball on day one,
  • 24:55that would be a good idea if you have time right now.
  • 24:58<v ->Yeah, and if I can say one other thing on that,</v>
  • 25:00I mean, and because it's a one-year program
  • 25:03and it's very compressed, you don't really have the,
  • 25:05you don't have the opportunity
  • 25:07to kind of take these intro biostat courses.
  • 25:14Manhasa Vini.
  • 25:20<v ->Sorry, so I had a quick question,</v>
  • 25:23'cause I heard that you both were in MD programs right now.
  • 25:27So, I've heard a lot about how an MS
  • 25:29is more research-oriented
  • 25:30while an MPH is generally more practice-oriented.
  • 25:33As someone that hopes to pursue an MD,
  • 25:36is there a lot of opportunity within this program
  • 25:39to get hands-on experience, whether in a lab or community,
  • 25:43with data collection
  • 25:44or is it just a lot of raw data analysis?
  • 25:52<v ->Do one of our alumni wanna comment on that question</v>
  • 25:56and then I can jump in?
  • 25:59<v ->I can take this at first shot.</v>
  • 26:02So, I was in the MS program while applying
  • 26:05for medical school.
  • 26:07So, when I first arrived, I connected with a few folks
  • 26:13at the School of Medicine and did some research there.
  • 26:17And I think that's probably where most of my time
  • 26:19was actually spent outside of coursework.
  • 26:22In terms of what I was doing,
  • 26:23I think that's really at the discretion
  • 26:26of you and your supervisor.
  • 26:27I know for me personally, I think I did quite a variety
  • 26:32of tasks starting from project conception, to filing IRB,
  • 26:40all the way until data collection
  • 26:42and going into the medical charts.
  • 26:45And then, as I eventually progressed through the one year
  • 26:49and I told my supervisor saying,
  • 26:52hey, I just learned this stats thing in the stats course,
  • 26:56that I was also tasked with doing the data analysis.
  • 26:59And then I guess now after graduating,
  • 27:02it comes to the fun part of having to write it up
  • 27:04and push it all out.
  • 27:06So, yeah, I guess it's, I'm still in some way connected,
  • 27:10but I think the short answer is yes,
  • 27:13you can do whatever you want.
  • 27:14And a lot of people are doing stuff
  • 27:17in the School of Medicine.
  • 27:19For me, I did everything from beginning to end.
  • 27:23It just depends on who you find really.
  • 27:28<v Ujunwa>Yeah, I want to second that.</v>
  • 27:30I worked with the Alzheimer's Disease Research Center
  • 27:36and you will get a lot of patient interaction in that place.
  • 27:39I know of some of the students
  • 27:40that I did some research with,
  • 27:46I'm trying to remember her name,
  • 27:47but she was saying, Nikki, Nikki Holley,
  • 27:50they went to American Samoa.
  • 27:52So, there are opportunities if you ask.
  • 27:57So, it depends on what your interests are
  • 27:59and if you indicate interest to the faculty,
  • 28:01there are opportunities to do hands-on research.
  • 28:05<v ->Awesome, thank you.</v>
  • 28:16<v ->Any other questions?</v>
  • 28:27Okay.
  • 28:31Well, if there are no other questions,
  • 28:33I have my email address up on the screen here.
  • 28:36Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions
  • 28:39as you're applying for the program,
  • 28:41or if you're still thinking about applying to the program.
  • 28:45I'm sure Chris and Melanie
  • 28:46are more than happy to answer questions, as well.
  • 28:53Okay, and Ronald just put his email in the chat.
  • 29:00Okay.
  • 29:05Any last minute thoughts?
  • 29:09Okay.
  • 29:10Well, I wanna thank everyone
  • 29:12for coming to this info session.
  • 29:16It's really nice to be able to talk to students
  • 29:20during the application process
  • 29:22and get you guys information about the program.
  • 29:25Hope you guys have a enjoyable evening or rest of your day,
  • 29:29wherever you are.
  • 29:31Thanks.