Most Vulnerable to Most Valuable—Early Childhood Policies as a Fundamental Building Block of Resilience, Climate Adaptation and Sustainable Development
October 23, 2024YCSC Grand Rounds October 22, 2024
Adrian Cerezo, PhD, MESc
Senior Research Fellow
University of Maine
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- 00:03Alright. Welcome,
- 00:04everyone.
- 00:06Before we begin, I would
- 00:08just wanna do a plug
- 00:10in for next week's grand
- 00:12rounds with,
- 00:14doctor Catherine Nelson Coffey,
- 00:16Flourishing Families, Exploring the Correlates,
- 00:19Causes, and Consequences
- 00:21of Parents' Well-being.
- 00:23Right. So
- 00:25I am very
- 00:27excited to introduce
- 00:29today's grand round speaker.
- 00:32I was fortunate enough to
- 00:33call him a friend. And
- 00:35we had worked together way
- 00:37back, like,
- 00:38more than a decade ago
- 00:40with doctor Pia Brito, who's
- 00:42now at UNICEF.
- 00:44And we would work on
- 00:45early childhood development
- 00:47policies internationally, and I was
- 00:50asking myself why was I
- 00:51in the same room with
- 00:53an environmental scientist.
- 00:55And so after getting to
- 00:57know Doctor. Cerezo,
- 00:59I understood,
- 01:00like,
- 01:01you know, how we can
- 01:03connect with
- 01:05different areas of early childhood
- 01:07that seem
- 01:09disconnected and that's what he's
- 01:10trying to do to connect
- 01:11all the dots.
- 01:13And also some
- 01:16exciting, not exciting, but interesting
- 01:18trivia,
- 01:19if you were to at
- 01:20the end of today's
- 01:22talk, if you were to
- 01:23Google Adrian Cerrezzo
- 01:25and missing kayaker, that would
- 01:27be really interesting.
- 01:30So Doctor. Cerrezzo is a
- 01:32senior research fellow at the
- 01:32University of Maine, and he's
- 01:32also a
- 01:36social ecology of ECD fellow,
- 01:38with a child program here
- 01:39at the Child Study Center.
- 01:41His transdisciplinary
- 01:43work explores the fundamental role
- 01:45of early childhood development and
- 01:47the achievement
- 01:48of the sustainable development goals.
- 01:51Doctor. Cerezo holds a PhD
- 01:52in MESC from Yale University
- 01:55with a focus on social
- 01:56ecology,
- 01:57child development,
- 01:58complex systems and global policy,
- 02:01experience in environmental and community
- 02:02based policy and practice. He
- 02:03currently serves as senior advisor
- 02:04on early childhood development,
- 02:06climate change and sustainable development
- 02:08to UNICEF
- 02:09Pacific,
- 02:15the government of the Republic
- 02:16of the Marshall Islands and
- 02:18the Dominican Republic.
- 02:20Since November of twenty twenty
- 02:21two, he has been part
- 02:22of the delegation of the
- 02:24Republic of the Marshall Islands
- 02:25at the United Nations Climate
- 02:27Change Conference. He He is
- 02:29also co founder of the
- 02:31Early Years in Sustainable
- 02:32Development Research
- 02:34Initiative
- 02:35at the University of Maine.
- 02:37This institution fosters transdisciplinary
- 02:40collaboration to expand the knowledge
- 02:42base, policies, programs, and practices
- 02:44at the intersection of the
- 02:46early years and sustainable development.
- 02:48So without further ado, doctor
- 02:49Cerezo.
- 02:57This is so exciting.
- 03:00I did my PhD here,
- 03:01but at the school of
- 03:02forestry, and I normally speak
- 03:04at the school of forestry.
- 03:05So being able to extend
- 03:07beyond
- 03:08there and work here,
- 03:11where I have such,
- 03:13warm memories of working with
- 03:14doctor Piaverito
- 03:16and, in fact, doctor Lichtman.
- 03:19It it's it's a real
- 03:21honor.
- 03:22And speaking of kayak accidents,
- 03:23this is a photo of
- 03:25seashells from the island that
- 03:28I used to live in
- 03:29in Maine. I now live
- 03:30on another island in Maine.
- 03:32Less kayak accidents.
- 03:35So,
- 03:37so what I'm going to
- 03:39try to do today is,
- 03:41like Chin said and thank
- 03:42you, Chin, and thank you
- 03:44for the invitation
- 03:45connect some dots.
- 03:47That's sort of what I
- 03:48spend a lot of my
- 03:49time doing,
- 03:51because I come into the
- 03:53field of early childhood development
- 03:54from the field of environmental
- 03:56policy.
- 03:57And so I'm going to
- 03:58try to explain the rationale
- 04:00for this conjunction.
- 04:02And
- 04:02I realized as I was
- 04:04putting together this slide show,
- 04:07thirty minutes ago,
- 04:08that,
- 04:10I get the luxury of
- 04:11doing something that I don't
- 04:12usually get to do because,
- 04:14normally,
- 04:15I I get I get
- 04:16to speak to,
- 04:17decision makers in government.
- 04:20And, you know, those are
- 04:21conversations that take five minutes
- 04:23to seven minutes.
- 04:24Here, I have, like, the
- 04:25luxury
- 04:27of more than five minutes.
- 04:29So I I thought today
- 04:30I would do rather than
- 04:32little bits and pieces, put
- 04:34together a full symphony.
- 04:36It reminded me of this
- 04:37quote by
- 04:38Gustav Mahler, which is one
- 04:39of my favorite when thinking
- 04:41about complex systems, that the
- 04:43symphony must be like the
- 04:44world. It must
- 04:46embrace everything.
- 04:47So I'm going to put
- 04:48together for you a symphony
- 04:50in four movements.
- 04:51The first movement
- 04:52is going to be the
- 04:53complex agenda of sustainable development
- 04:55with a ballad on the
- 04:57evergreen,
- 04:58if ever given.
- 04:59Then a second movement on
- 05:01the complex network of early
- 05:03childhood development with a little
- 05:04riff on child mortality history,
- 05:07like people do.
- 05:09The complex, then the third
- 05:11movement, which is a complex
- 05:12intersection of ECD, climate, and
- 05:14sustainable development, and then
- 05:17a final movement in on
- 05:19practical policy applications with the
- 05:21saga of the small island
- 05:23states and encoder
- 05:25as
- 05:26with every good symphony.
- 05:28So we're going to begin
- 05:29with a very average history
- 05:31of the sustainable development goals
- 05:33because I think it's a
- 05:34topic
- 05:35that doesn't get discussed enough
- 05:37in the United States. And
- 05:38so we need some framing
- 05:40concepts to have the other
- 05:42conversation.
- 05:43And it has to begin
- 05:44with a conversation about the
- 05:46history of how we think
- 05:47about environmental
- 05:48policy
- 05:49because particularly in the US,
- 05:51it's very biased towards certain
- 05:53things because of that history.
- 05:55So without further ado, first
- 05:57movement
- 05:58begins with the wilderness.
- 06:01And this is the moment
- 06:02in nineteen oh three,
- 06:05where Teddy Roosevelt and John
- 06:08Muir get together, and they
- 06:09think about this idea of
- 06:11cathedrals of democracy, like John
- 06:12Muir called them,
- 06:14this park system where we
- 06:16are going to exclude humans
- 06:18because this is expressions of
- 06:19the Garden of Eden,
- 06:21and people are just like
- 06:22an like a problem there.
- 06:24So we take them out.
- 06:25They, in fact, ended up
- 06:26taking out then,
- 06:28American native populations that lived
- 06:30in these
- 06:31protected
- 06:32what are now protected areas.
- 06:34Okay? But at that moment,
- 06:36when we were thinking about
- 06:37sustainable development or what will
- 06:39become sustainable development, we were
- 06:41really thinking about
- 06:42wildlife conservation.
- 06:44How do we take care
- 06:45of the plants and the
- 06:46animals, etcetera, etcetera.
- 06:48Fast forward to the 1950s,
- 06:52and we started really becoming
- 06:54aware of the impacts of
- 06:55our actions on the world.
- 06:58And and it moves from
- 07:00this protection of wilderness to
- 07:02what we're calling it what
- 07:03we're still call environmentalism.
- 07:06This is the famous photo,
- 07:08like the iconic photo of
- 07:10the Cuyahoga River.
- 07:12I'm gonna say it's in
- 07:13Cleveland,
- 07:14one of those sent center
- 07:16states,
- 07:17that famously caught on fire
- 07:19several times, and it became
- 07:21a a rallying cry around
- 07:23environmentalism.
- 07:24Later on in the same
- 07:26spirit,
- 07:27we got to the first
- 07:29Earth Day, which was in
- 07:30nineteen seventy.
- 07:32And I chose this photo
- 07:33very deliberately
- 07:34because
- 07:36here it is the globe
- 07:37saying help.
- 07:38And Earth Day is about
- 07:40the Earth.
- 07:41And at that time, we
- 07:42were still talking about how
- 07:44do we make sure that
- 07:45beyond protecting wildlife, we're making
- 07:48sure that water is clean,
- 07:50that we are not polluting
- 07:52with with waste,
- 07:53and that the air is
- 07:54clean. So
- 07:56it is really in nineteen
- 07:58seventy two when the first
- 08:00conference on the human environment
- 08:03happens in Stockholm
- 08:04that this statement is made.
- 08:06And it's the first movement
- 08:08towards what we are thinking
- 08:10more of as sustainable development.
- 08:12Both aspects of man's and
- 08:14human's environments, the natural and
- 08:16the human made, are essential
- 08:19to hisher well-being, their well-being,
- 08:22and the enjoyment of basic
- 08:24human rights, even the right
- 08:25of life itself.
- 08:27The statement
- 08:28basically says, we don't take
- 08:30care of the other thing.
- 08:31We don't take care of
- 08:32the nature thing if we
- 08:35don't take care of the
- 08:36human thing.
- 08:37And so now we're thinking,
- 08:40how do we deal with
- 08:40nutrition? How do we deal
- 08:42with health? How do we
- 08:43deal with education?
- 08:45And in fact, out of
- 08:46this conference comes the first
- 08:47conference of
- 08:49environmental education
- 08:51that creates
- 08:52the idea of environmental education
- 08:54that has been followed on
- 08:56later on.
- 08:58It is really in nineteen
- 08:59eighty seven
- 09:00when the term sustainable development
- 09:02is used for the first
- 09:04time.
- 09:05This is the document called
- 09:07the Our Common Future or
- 09:09also known as the Brundtland
- 09:10Report.
- 09:11And basically,
- 09:12the definition of sustainable development
- 09:14at that point
- 09:15is sustainable development is development
- 09:18that meets the needs of
- 09:19the present without compromising the
- 09:21ability of future generations
- 09:24to meet their own needs.
- 09:27Around that time also,
- 09:29in this very abridged history,
- 09:31we got to the first
- 09:33conference on climate change,
- 09:35and the questions of climate
- 09:37action. And so again,
- 09:39now we're talking about how
- 09:40do we use resources?
- 09:42How do we make cities
- 09:43sustainable?
- 09:45How do we deal with
- 09:46innovation in technology?
- 09:48And again, the topic of
- 09:50air, but now in the
- 09:51context of meteorology and what
- 09:53is happening to the climate,
- 09:54which we knew
- 09:56from the beginning of the
- 09:57twentieth century, the end of
- 09:59the nineteenth century. That was
- 10:00an issue, but now it's
- 10:01coming to the fore as
- 10:02something we need to deal
- 10:03with.
- 10:04It is really in twenty
- 10:06fifteen
- 10:07that
- 10:09we expand this discussion about
- 10:11what is the human part
- 10:13of the sustainable development
- 10:15discussion. This is the moment
- 10:16where the adoption of the
- 10:18sustainable development goals happened,
- 10:21in twenty fifteen.
- 10:22And now we're talking about
- 10:24we can't do this if
- 10:26we don't move people away
- 10:28from poverty. And the sustainable
- 10:29development goals goals were stated
- 10:31as zero poverty,
- 10:33not just some people need
- 10:35to do better. There cannot
- 10:38be poverty if we are
- 10:39going to be a sustainable
- 10:40planet.
- 10:41There has to be gender
- 10:42equity. There has to be
- 10:44not just work, it has
- 10:45to be decent work that
- 10:47it is product that is
- 10:48productive.
- 10:49And there has to be
- 10:51reduced inequalities
- 10:52and peace, justice, and strong
- 10:54institutions.
- 10:55So we're going beyond the
- 10:57physical,
- 10:59everyday needs of people
- 11:01to these larger needs that
- 11:03are just as important.
- 11:05And in the end,
- 11:07we end up with this
- 11:09lofty,
- 11:11super significant statement of what
- 11:13the world looks like when
- 11:14we get our shit when
- 11:15we get our act together.
- 11:17Sorry. Life in Maine makes
- 11:19for that,
- 11:22which is great. I mean,
- 11:23you're thinking this is amazing.
- 11:25But at some point, as
- 11:27we keep accumulating
- 11:28parts of the agenda,
- 11:30it starts feeling like grabbing
- 11:32sand, and it starts falling
- 11:34out of our hands. And
- 11:34it's part of the reason
- 11:36why I became intensely interested
- 11:38in complexity theory when I
- 11:40was doing my work here
- 11:42at Yale,
- 11:44which brings us to the
- 11:45Ballad of the Ever Given,
- 11:47which is the bridge that
- 11:48we're going to use to
- 11:49early childhood development.
- 11:51How many of you remember
- 11:52this during the pandemic era,
- 11:54the Ever Given boat,
- 11:56a ship that got wedged
- 11:58in the Suez Canal, and
- 11:59everybody was wondering what happened.
- 12:03I read this story in
- 12:04a very interesting way for
- 12:06me, probably hopefully for you
- 12:09too.
- 12:10Here we have this huge
- 12:11boat that is wedged in
- 12:13the Suez Canal. And everybody
- 12:14is wondering
- 12:15how the heck are we
- 12:16gonna get it out of
- 12:18that situation
- 12:19and
- 12:20allow the flow of commerce
- 12:22to happen in the Suez
- 12:23Canal again.
- 12:25Well, it wasn't a huge
- 12:26big crane or a huge
- 12:28big airplane or a huge
- 12:29big boat. It was actually
- 12:32tiny little boats
- 12:33that came to the rescue
- 12:35of the Ever Given. And
- 12:36it was
- 12:37a flotilla of little
- 12:40boats
- 12:41that on wedge
- 12:43the Ever Given
- 12:44and put it in motion
- 12:45again so that it could
- 12:46flow back into the Suez
- 12:48Canal. And this system, this
- 12:50huge system
- 12:52could get activated again. And
- 12:54so
- 12:56my proposition
- 12:57is that the nurturing care
- 12:58of the youngest children,
- 13:00the smallest of the small
- 13:02in the human
- 13:04world,
- 13:06and their caregivers is a
- 13:07powerful tool to address the
- 13:09most massive global challenges.
- 13:11And this is what I
- 13:13sort of stumbled upon
- 13:15when I was learning from
- 13:16Pia Verito about Global Early
- 13:18Childhood Development Policy here at
- 13:20Yale. And this is what
- 13:21I've been pursuing for the
- 13:22last fifteen years.
- 13:23What is this point of
- 13:25intersection
- 13:25of the issue of early
- 13:27childhood and the issue of
- 13:28sustainable development,
- 13:30but not just as a
- 13:31matter of, well, they are
- 13:33connected,
- 13:33but how can they be
- 13:35drivers? How can early childhood
- 13:37development policy can be a
- 13:38driver of sustainable development policy?
- 13:42Which brings us to movement
- 13:43number two,
- 13:44key concepts in early childhood
- 13:46development. And
- 13:48again, I know that there
- 13:49are people here from different
- 13:50disciplines and different,
- 13:52departments. So
- 13:54some of these things are
- 13:55going to be things you
- 13:57know and and talk about
- 13:58all the time for some
- 14:00of you. Oh,
- 14:08okay.
- 14:09Well, I didn't know I
- 14:11had that effect on Connecticut.
- 14:19Okay.
- 14:21Alright. It gives me a
- 14:22break to so one of
- 14:24the effects of all of
- 14:26the international travel I've been
- 14:27doing is that now I
- 14:28have vertigo.
- 14:31So if you see me
- 14:32tip over, just it's normal.
- 14:34This is normal.
- 14:37But I have to keep
- 14:38myself hydrated, so that was
- 14:39a good break. I it
- 14:41was on purpose.
- 14:43So some key concepts on
- 14:45early childhood development. Well, the
- 14:47first key
- 14:48concept is that early childhood
- 14:50development is the earliest moment
- 14:51in life.
- 14:52That's not that's what you
- 14:54would expect. But what most
- 14:55people don't expect that are
- 14:57not in our field is
- 14:58that the standard definition right
- 15:00now for organizations like UNICEF
- 15:03make that first moment in
- 15:05life actually way before that
- 15:07first moment in life because
- 15:09there are more elements,
- 15:11things that happen
- 15:13during the adolescence of people
- 15:14that could potentially become parents
- 15:16that start setting the pathways
- 15:19of what will happen with
- 15:21the life of that infant
- 15:22when they're born.
- 15:23And then that moment of
- 15:25early childhood development
- 15:27ends between
- 15:28six and nine years depending
- 15:30on the country you're in
- 15:31because the definition says that
- 15:32it's a moment of transition
- 15:34to formal schooling. So
- 15:36from at that moment, you're
- 15:38considered a child, not just
- 15:40a little a young child.
- 15:42Okay?
- 15:43It is also, as I
- 15:44found out as I was
- 15:46doing my work and I
- 15:47became even more fascinated with
- 15:49it,
- 15:50ECD is a complex early
- 15:52childhood development is a complex
- 15:53nonlinear network or system.
- 15:56And so when we think
- 15:57about young children,
- 15:59we have to take away
- 16:01from our head
- 16:03Winnicott,
- 16:04a famous child psychologist,
- 16:06famously said, there is no
- 16:08infant.
- 16:09And he said it on
- 16:11purpose so that it would
- 16:12be kind of like
- 16:14brattle people into wonder thinking
- 16:16about this. Because when we
- 16:18say infant, when we say
- 16:19early childhood development, we're really
- 16:21talking about a system
- 16:23that includes the parental care
- 16:25and the closed care community.
- 16:27But in the way that
- 16:29we think about it for
- 16:30policy, it also has to
- 16:32include the sociocultural
- 16:34environment.
- 16:35And it also has to
- 16:36include the ecological environment. And
- 16:38it's a nonlinear system in
- 16:40the sense that all of
- 16:41these elements of that all
- 16:43of those subsystems
- 16:45need to be successful
- 16:47in order for what we
- 16:48call the child to be
- 16:49successful.
- 16:50And in many ways,
- 16:52the child needs to be
- 16:54successful in order for many
- 16:55of these elements to be
- 16:57successful.
- 16:57That's how nonlinearity works. And
- 16:59so we need to stop
- 17:00thinking about
- 17:02obsessively about the baby
- 17:04as an individual. And we
- 17:05have to think more broadly
- 17:07about the baby
- 17:09as this network, as this
- 17:11system.
- 17:12It also requires a network
- 17:14of nurturing care because it
- 17:16is a network
- 17:17and it is multidimensional
- 17:19and humans are multidimensional
- 17:21beings.
- 17:22This is the statement by
- 17:23the nurturing care framework team
- 17:26that was
- 17:27a collaboration
- 17:28between the World Health Organization,
- 17:30UNICEF,
- 17:31and several other institutions
- 17:33that answered the question,
- 17:35if I am a government
- 17:36and I am going to
- 17:37do well by my children,
- 17:39by young children, what are
- 17:41the key things that I
- 17:42need to take care of?
- 17:43And the answer is, if
- 17:45you don't take care of
- 17:46anything else, you need to
- 17:47take care of these five
- 17:48dimensions.
- 17:49You need to take care
- 17:50of health, nutrition, parental care,
- 17:52safety and security,
- 17:54and provide opportunities for learning.
- 17:57It is, again, an irreducible
- 17:59system. You cannot pick and
- 18:00choose. You have to do
- 18:02all five. And as a
- 18:03government, you have to figure
- 18:05out ways of creating systems
- 18:06that take care of all
- 18:07five
- 18:08so that you can promote
- 18:11the
- 18:12risk, I mean, the potential
- 18:14and the well-being of all
- 18:15children.
- 18:16It is also a moment,
- 18:18the moment of early childhood
- 18:19development of
- 18:21what I call the architecture
- 18:23of lifelong risk or potential.
- 18:25This is not just a
- 18:27moment where things are happening
- 18:28to you immediately.
- 18:30The things that are happening
- 18:31you to you immediately, the
- 18:33things that are you're interacting
- 18:34with immediately
- 18:36are creating the conditions, the
- 18:37architecture
- 18:38of what you're going to
- 18:39be for the rest of
- 18:40your life.
- 18:41They are not damaged. It's
- 18:43not fully determined. It is
- 18:45not written in stone. But
- 18:47this creates the conditions for
- 18:49you having an easier life
- 18:51of more potential and more
- 18:53well-being
- 18:54or a riskier life of
- 18:55more vulnerability.
- 18:58And so that is so
- 18:59for brain development and cognitive
- 19:01development.
- 19:03In the corner here, I
- 19:04don't know if the pointer
- 19:05is yes. My current new
- 19:07obsession, which is the thymus
- 19:09gland, which, you know, it's
- 19:10kind of here. You're all
- 19:12colop medicine
- 19:13people, so you know it
- 19:14better than I do. But
- 19:15it is a gland that
- 19:17actually is most active doing
- 19:19what it will do for
- 19:20you at that moment in
- 19:21life. And once it's done
- 19:23doing that job, it recedes.
- 19:24And
- 19:25so
- 19:26this dialogue that is happening
- 19:28between the child and that
- 19:29whole system
- 19:30is telling the body this
- 19:32is the immune system that
- 19:33you're going to have for
- 19:34the rest of your life
- 19:35mostly.
- 19:37Same with the respiratory system,
- 19:40same with social emotional development,
- 19:43same with another really funny
- 19:46trivial thing that
- 19:47the American Academy of Ophthalmologists
- 19:51found out that
- 19:52children that spend more than
- 19:54x amount of time in
- 19:55rooms that are eighteen square
- 19:58that allow them only to
- 19:59look eighteen feet or less
- 20:01tend to develop myopia
- 20:02at much higher rates than
- 20:04children that get to be
- 20:05outside.
- 20:06And I thought that's super
- 20:07cool. But somebody in Singapore
- 20:10thought this is super important.
- 20:11And they're actually creating a
- 20:13public policy
- 20:14that allows
- 20:15young children to be outside
- 20:17long enough
- 20:18to reduce the rate of
- 20:19myopia
- 20:20in Singapore.
- 20:22So this is not insignificant.
- 20:23You're creating the architecture of
- 20:25your capacity to see for
- 20:27the rest of your life.
- 20:29And then so much more
- 20:30than can be said about
- 20:31biophilia and the connection between
- 20:33children and nature. But that's
- 20:33a whole different lecture. You
- 20:33have to invite me again
- 20:33if you want to hear
- 20:33about that.
- 20:34Different lecture. You have to
- 20:35invite me again if you
- 20:36want to hear about that.
- 20:37Vector borne diseases, epigenetic development,
- 20:38issues that have to do
- 20:38with disabilities becoming permanent. And
- 20:38of course,
- 20:48stunting, which is not necessarily
- 20:50an issue in the United
- 20:51States, but globally, it is
- 20:53rampant. I work in the
- 20:54Pacific region. And I work
- 20:56in countries where you have
- 20:57twenty six percent to thirty
- 20:59percent of the young children
- 21:01population
- 21:02becoming stunted by extreme malnutrition,
- 21:05issues of marginalization,
- 21:07issues of toxic stress. All
- 21:09of those things
- 21:10are having an impact on
- 21:11the infant immediately, but they
- 21:13are also setting the stage
- 21:15for the architecture of who
- 21:16they are going to become.
- 21:18So
- 21:20this is a graphic that
- 21:21you have to show. Like,
- 21:22I am contractually obligated to
- 21:24show this because
- 21:25James Heckman,
- 21:28basically
- 21:30helped us figure out how
- 21:31to tell governments why do
- 21:33you invest in young children.
- 21:34This is a a curve
- 21:36that shows
- 21:37that when you invest at
- 21:38the right time in life,
- 21:39which is that green part
- 21:40of the curve,
- 21:42you get a return of
- 21:44depending on the moment you
- 21:45do it and the the
- 21:46aspect that you're attending to
- 21:49of between
- 21:50nine to thirteen dollars for
- 21:52every dollar spent.
- 21:53Okay? And as you can
- 21:55see, that happens
- 21:57around the time of early
- 21:58childhood.
- 21:59Once you cross
- 22:02the you go into schooling
- 22:04nine years, eight years,
- 22:06you cross what is called
- 22:07the airline, which is the
- 22:08line of opportunity.
- 22:09And beyond that point, everything
- 22:11that you haven't attended to
- 22:13here becomes a cost.
- 22:15Again, this is not damning.
- 22:17It's not that children are
- 22:18broken and we throw them
- 22:19away. It's just that it's
- 22:20going to take longer. It's
- 22:22gonna take more money. And
- 22:23the likelihood
- 22:25of success is much lower.
- 22:27And so
- 22:28this is the explanation
- 22:31to governments on why at
- 22:32that time. Because for one
- 22:34dollar you get that in
- 22:35return.
- 22:37So of course, that all
- 22:38brings us to a short
- 22:39riff about infant mortality
- 22:42that I always bring up
- 22:44because people who are not
- 22:45in our field
- 22:47do not understand this very
- 22:49basic fact about early childhood
- 22:51development policy.
- 22:53And that is that for
- 22:54the first two point eight
- 22:55million years of evolution
- 22:57up to one hundred and
- 22:58fifty years ago,
- 23:00thirty percent to forty percent
- 23:02of all children that were
- 23:04born,
- 23:06like that's one third of
- 23:07all children that were born
- 23:08would die before five years
- 23:10of age
- 23:11For most of our evolution,
- 23:13one hundred and fifty years
- 23:14ago, we started figuring out
- 23:16a couple of key things
- 23:17that had to do with
- 23:18water sanitation, health, antibiotics,
- 23:21maternal care.
- 23:22And currently, in the United
- 23:24States,
- 23:26well, globally, it's zero point
- 23:27three seven percent of children
- 23:29that die before five years
- 23:31of age. In the United
- 23:32States, it's zero point zero
- 23:34zero six five percent.
- 23:36It's statistically
- 23:38negligible.
- 23:39Every one of the children
- 23:40that dies is a tragedy.
- 23:42Don't get me wrong.
- 23:43But we're talking about
- 23:45something that defined the demographics
- 23:47of all of the countries
- 23:49in the world one hundred
- 23:50and fifty years ago.
- 23:51Why am I telling you
- 23:52this? Because I
- 23:54participate in the climate negotiations,
- 23:56as you heard. And I've
- 23:58been doing that since two
- 23:59thousand and seven. And I
- 24:00have this very funny, sobering,
- 24:02scary
- 24:03episode when I was talking
- 24:04to a climate economist.
- 24:07And I told her the
- 24:08story of this is why
- 24:09we invest in young children.
- 24:10And she said simply,
- 24:13dead children have no carbon
- 24:14footprint.
- 24:15And this statement had to
- 24:17do with a misunderstanding
- 24:20that when you have
- 24:21low care of children,
- 24:23this happens.
- 24:25This doesn't happen in the
- 24:26world anymore. But what happens
- 24:28is that the same proportion
- 24:30of children that used to
- 24:31die experience either extreme neglect
- 24:34or extreme toxic stress or
- 24:37extreme situations that make their
- 24:39life
- 24:39a life of high vulnerability.
- 24:42These children will survive,
- 24:44but they will have harder
- 24:45lives. And it will cost
- 24:46governments and all of us
- 24:48much more to take care
- 24:49of that. So it's important
- 24:51to keep this in mind
- 24:52because I think, again, we
- 24:54operate in the like, we're
- 24:56a hundred and fifty years
- 24:57ago that,
- 24:58maybe if we don't do
- 24:59anything, they'll disappear as a
- 25:01problem. They don't. They actually
- 25:03become a bigger problem
- 25:04for them and for ourselves.
- 25:07So
- 25:08inaction leads to vulnerability and
- 25:10risk.
- 25:11And nurturing care leads to
- 25:12potential resilience and sustainability,
- 25:15which brings us to the
- 25:16third movement.
- 25:17But I'm going to drink
- 25:18some water.
- 25:23Okay.
- 25:24ECD plus climate change plus
- 25:26sustainable development. And for this,
- 25:28I'm going to use as
- 25:29a metaphor something that I've
- 25:30been using in my work
- 25:31with governments that tends to
- 25:32be very helpful,
- 25:34is this idea of the
- 25:36early childhood development
- 25:38system as a seed.
- 25:40That
- 25:41seed experiences some risks like
- 25:43we described before. And these
- 25:45risks
- 25:47kind of fall like a
- 25:48drizzle
- 25:49on every developing child.
- 25:52And
- 25:52if we don't provide these
- 25:54children with care, that plant
- 25:55will not do well. That
- 25:57little
- 25:59seedling will not do well.
- 26:00And they will develop, like
- 26:02we discussed,
- 26:03to experience high vulnerability
- 26:05and high risk in their
- 26:07life. And that is not
- 26:08just a problem for that
- 26:09individual,
- 26:10but it is a problem
- 26:11for communities because they don't
- 26:12yield the fruits that a
- 26:14person that reaches their full
- 26:15potential can bring to their
- 26:17community.
- 26:18So
- 26:20let's think about this seed.
- 26:21And it's now fortified
- 26:23by the nurturing care framework
- 26:25and close attention and deliberate
- 26:27attention to at least these
- 26:29five elements of care of
- 26:31young children.
- 26:32Now you have the fundamentals,
- 26:34the
- 26:35strong base for this seedling
- 26:37to do better.
- 26:38And not only does it
- 26:39do better for themselves, but
- 26:41it produces more fruit for
- 26:43their community.
- 26:44So that is the first
- 26:45return on investment in early
- 26:47childhood development.
- 26:48The one that we know
- 26:50in the field of early
- 26:51childhood development policy, well-being and
- 26:53potential for individuals and their
- 26:55community.
- 26:57Now let's add climate
- 26:59to the mix. This drizzle
- 27:01becomes a storm.
- 27:02Because for all of those
- 27:04risk elements,
- 27:05they become exacerbated
- 27:07by climate change.
- 27:08And so now we're talking
- 27:09about this seed being
- 27:13bombarded
- 27:14by many more points of
- 27:16vulnerability than it had before.
- 27:19Well, when you take care
- 27:20of young children in the
- 27:22right way, in a multidimensional
- 27:23way, considering the elements of
- 27:26the nurturing care framework,
- 27:28you're not just protecting the
- 27:29foundation
- 27:30of that little tree. You're
- 27:32also creating
- 27:34kind of like a bubble,
- 27:35an umbrella
- 27:36that protects that little that
- 27:38tree when it grows so
- 27:39that it can deliver its
- 27:41fruits. And so you have
- 27:42a second return. As related
- 27:44to climate change,
- 27:46these interventions
- 27:47create the potential for resilience
- 27:49and adaptation,
- 27:50not just for the individuals,
- 27:52but for their communities.
- 27:54And when that happens for
- 27:55communities, it happens for countries.
- 27:57And when it happens in
- 27:58vulnerable countries, you're talking about
- 28:00something very important because you're
- 28:02talking about countries that have
- 28:04a limited amount of resources
- 28:06to put into human development.
- 28:08You get two returns.
- 28:10Now let's
- 28:12reconsider that seed
- 28:14and think very deliberately about
- 28:16how early childhood development is
- 28:17connected to sustainable development.
- 28:19And you get a third
- 28:20return on that investment
- 28:22because that tree will not
- 28:24only yield the fruits of
- 28:27a good life of well-being
- 28:29connected to their community,
- 28:31it will also yield the
- 28:32fruits of sustainable development itself.
- 28:35Many of the woah, that
- 28:37slide is not there. So
- 28:38I'll tell you the story.
- 28:40Many of those sustainable development
- 28:42goals that are there as
- 28:43fruits on that tree
- 28:45are actually
- 28:46connected to interventions in early
- 28:48childhood. We know, and we
- 28:50have some of the world's
- 28:51experts on that here, that
- 28:52it is connected to peace
- 28:54building, which is one of
- 28:55the sustainable development goals. It
- 28:57is connected to moving away
- 28:58from poverty.
- 28:59It is connected to doing
- 29:01better in school and doing
- 29:02better in education.
- 29:04It is connected to better
- 29:05health at that moment and
- 29:07better health throughout the lifespan.
- 29:09It is connected to
- 29:11more gender equity. It is
- 29:13connected to more equity in
- 29:15general. It is connected to
- 29:16doing better at work and
- 29:18advancing more in your career.
- 29:20It is connected to
- 29:22advancing innovation and technology because
- 29:24people who do better in
- 29:25school also have a higher
- 29:26capacity to contribute to the
- 29:29public discussion about how we
- 29:32and based on my own
- 29:33work, I have also also
- 29:34seen that it's connected to
- 29:36the protection of wildlife
- 29:38and the protection of,
- 29:40resources.
- 29:41So
- 29:43the majority of the sustainable
- 29:44development goals
- 29:46are not just peripherally connected.
- 29:48They are fundamentally
- 29:49connected to the interventions of
- 29:51early childhood development.
- 29:53And these are not interventions
- 29:54that are designed
- 29:56to be done
- 29:58regarding sustainable development. This is
- 30:00not like let's do preschool
- 30:02education on sustainable development or
- 30:04preschool education on climate change,
- 30:06which is I have many
- 30:08things to say about that,
- 30:09but then you'll think I'm
- 30:10a cranky old man.
- 30:12So I'm not gonna say
- 30:13anything about it other than
- 30:15what what we need to
- 30:17do in order to get
- 30:18this fruit is we need
- 30:20to have programs and,
- 30:23policies focused on the early
- 30:24years so that we can
- 30:26get these cost effective, comprehensive,
- 30:28immediate, and enduring paths to
- 30:30achieving
- 30:31human potential and well-being,
- 30:33community climate resilience, and boosting
- 30:36sustainable development.
- 30:38The pathway to that is
- 30:40taking care of the nurturing
- 30:42care framework.
- 30:43It's not the other way
- 30:44around that we do sustainable
- 30:45development and then we take
- 30:47care of children. We take
- 30:48care of the system that
- 30:49takes care of young children
- 30:51and it will deliver us
- 30:52sustainable development, at least a
- 30:54good part of it.
- 30:55So that brings us to,
- 31:01delivering on the promise of
- 31:04this is the,
- 31:05E Trade baby, which I
- 31:07am in love with because
- 31:08well, look it up on
- 31:09YouTube. If you haven't seen
- 31:10it, he's fantastic.
- 31:12And he he's a a
- 31:14baby investor, so he has
- 31:15a lot of money, but
- 31:16this happened to him.
- 31:19Sorry. I tend not anyway,
- 31:22delivering on the promise of
- 31:23ECD. I have to crack
- 31:24myself up every once in
- 31:25a while.
- 31:29So
- 31:30research,
- 31:31by colleagues, some of which
- 31:33are here at Yale,
- 31:35has found that there are
- 31:36these key elements
- 31:38to achieving the promise of
- 31:41early childhood development.
- 31:42But it all begins with
- 31:44adequate financing because it is
- 31:46that adequate financing that creates
- 31:49the possibility for these three
- 31:50things to happen. That the
- 31:52programs are equitably distributed so
- 31:54that everybody who needs them
- 31:55gets access to them. That
- 31:57they are of the highest
- 31:58quality because programs of lower
- 32:00quality do not deliver on
- 32:02this promise
- 32:03as well. And that they
- 32:05are timely,
- 32:06delivered,
- 32:08and they are delivered for
- 32:09the right duration. Because a
- 32:11program that needs to be
- 32:12delivered
- 32:13at birth cannot be delivered
- 32:15when you're five. And a
- 32:16program that needs to be
- 32:17delivered for two years cannot
- 32:19be delivered for one week.
- 32:21So those are key pieces
- 32:23of the puzzle. Based on
- 32:24my own research,
- 32:26I have found that it
- 32:27is really important that in
- 32:28that equation, we fold together
- 32:31a consideration of making ECD
- 32:32programs ever more aligned with
- 32:34environmental and sustainability
- 32:36principles.
- 32:37Because the more we interact
- 32:38with each other,
- 32:39the better we can figure
- 32:41out this conjunction of sustainable
- 32:43development on ECD for the
- 32:44benefit of ECD programs, but
- 32:47also for the benefit of
- 32:48sustainable development.
- 32:50So for early childhood to
- 32:52deliver on its promise
- 32:53of a sustainable future, programs
- 32:55must be well financed,
- 32:57high quality,
- 32:58equitable,
- 32:59delivered at the right time
- 33:00and for the right duration,
- 33:02and be in alignment with
- 33:03climate and sustainable development knowledge.
- 33:05And
- 33:06thus, it's time for to
- 33:08build stronger intersectoral
- 33:10collaborations with environmental,
- 33:12wildlife, and sustainable development institutions.
- 33:14So at this point, you're
- 33:16probably wondering, well, that's great
- 33:17in theory, but what does
- 33:18it look like in the
- 33:19real world? So I'm gonna
- 33:21tell you what it looks
- 33:22like in the real world
- 33:23and some of the work
- 33:23that we're doing.
- 33:25UNICEF Pacific has been
- 33:28sponsoring and supporting a process
- 33:30in the Pacific region
- 33:31that they call the PRC
- 33:33for ECD or the Pacific
- 33:35Regional Council
- 33:36on Early Childhood Development.
- 33:39They came up in their
- 33:40original meeting with nine
- 33:43calls to action
- 33:45that have to do with
- 33:46all of the things that
- 33:46we usually associate with early
- 33:48childhood development.
- 33:50I was asked to come
- 33:51into the meetings so that
- 33:53they could create what is
- 33:53called action point ten.
- 33:56Action point ten, which was,
- 34:00adopted
- 34:02three years ago,
- 34:03reads as follows.
- 34:05Priorize ACD as a pathway
- 34:07to increase the resilience
- 34:08and adaptive capacity of communities
- 34:10to the effects of climate
- 34:11change and other emergencies
- 34:14and promote
- 34:15close collaboration between the areas
- 34:17of ECD,
- 34:18natural resources, environment, and sustainable
- 34:20development.
- 34:21Now this is encoded
- 34:23in the policy
- 34:24of all of the countries
- 34:25that participate in the PRC
- 34:27for ECD.
- 34:28And they are working towards
- 34:29instituting national policies
- 34:32that activate this as part
- 34:33of their national early childhood
- 34:35development policy.
- 34:37One of the countries that
- 34:38has done so is
- 34:40my country.
- 34:42I was born in Puerto
- 34:43Rico, and I'm American. But
- 34:45the country that I work
- 34:46with in the UN
- 34:48climate process is the Marshall
- 34:50Islands. And I am
- 34:51deeply and
- 34:53profoundly,
- 34:54like, humbled and grateful to
- 34:55them that they have taken
- 34:57this on as champions as
- 34:59they have. So I am
- 35:00Marshallese for the purposes of
- 35:02this conversation and for the
- 35:03climate negotiations.
- 35:05This is the island of
- 35:06Majuro.
- 35:07It's a very low lying
- 35:09island.
- 35:10If you bring together all
- 35:12of the Marshall Islands' landmass,
- 35:14it's about the size of
- 35:15Washington, DC. So it's very
- 35:17tiny. Only twenty six thousand
- 35:19people live there. If you
- 35:20expand it, I think it's
- 35:22about the size of France
- 35:23with all the ocean space
- 35:25between it.
- 35:27The national policy
- 35:28that was adopted in nineteen
- 35:30twenty three for early childhood
- 35:32development states that they recognize
- 35:34that policies and programs and
- 35:36practices that support young children
- 35:38and their parents
- 35:39provide a powerful pathway to
- 35:41immediately
- 35:42everything that I have been
- 35:43telling you.
- 35:45The same policies and programs
- 35:47in the long term boost
- 35:48the attainment of sustainable development
- 35:50at all levels.
- 35:51So now this is encoded
- 35:53in the National Early Childhood
- 35:54Development Policy.
- 35:56Last July, we had a
- 35:57workshop where we
- 35:59brought together
- 36:00the people that work in
- 36:01the climate space in the
- 36:02Marshall Islands at the national
- 36:04level and the people that
- 36:05work and this is the
- 36:07head of delegation and the
- 36:09national envoy,
- 36:11Tina Steghe,
- 36:12the national envoy of the
- 36:13Marshall Islands on the climate
- 36:14negotiations.
- 36:16And we had two full
- 36:17days of exchange between people
- 36:19who do climate work and
- 36:20sustainable development work and people
- 36:22who do ECD work.
- 36:23Out of that came a
- 36:25restatement of the national policy
- 36:27on early childhood development that
- 36:28is now stated as a
- 36:30climate smart early childhood development
- 36:33policy. It also
- 36:35resulted
- 36:36in a recommitment of the
- 36:38Marshall Islands to the issue
- 36:40of early childhood development at
- 36:41the global level in the
- 36:42climate negotiations where we're trying
- 36:44to elevate the topic.
- 36:47It also resulted because the
- 36:49Marshall Islands and the Dominican
- 36:51Republic are entangled as part
- 36:52of the Small Island States,
- 36:54Coalition in the climate negotiations,
- 36:57and they work closely together.
- 36:59In me beginning
- 37:01a relationship with the Dominican
- 37:02government that is about to
- 37:04yield the fruit
- 37:06five days from now
- 37:08of a workshop in the
- 37:09Dominican Republic that replicates what
- 37:11we did in the Marshall
- 37:12Islands. Climate people at the
- 37:14national level, early childhood development
- 37:16people at the national level.
- 37:17And it will result in
- 37:19not just and and this
- 37:20is the the Dominican
- 37:22case. It's really interesting because
- 37:24they have a ministry for
- 37:25early childhood development. And so
- 37:27it's kind of easy to
- 37:28at the presidential level, this
- 37:30is the head of that
- 37:31ministry
- 37:32that was so excited with
- 37:34all of this that they
- 37:34brought her to bond to
- 37:34the climate negotiation intersessional meeting
- 37:34in June.
- 37:37Change and young children. And
- 37:38it was the first time
- 37:39in history that a high
- 37:39level government minister in the
- 37:40area of early childhood
- 37:51spoke on this topic at
- 37:52the UNFCCC.
- 37:53So so this is growing
- 37:55and there are several other
- 37:56countries that are trying to
- 37:58take on this topic.
- 38:00It also happened
- 38:01that in the meeting of
- 38:03the,
- 38:04subsidiary bodies, it's a very
- 38:06long convoluted
- 38:08name of this meeting that
- 38:09happens in June every year
- 38:10for the United Nations Framework
- 38:12Convention on Climate Change.
- 38:14There was the for the
- 38:15first time in history,
- 38:17an expert dialogue on early
- 38:19child
- 38:20on children and climate change.
- 38:22In that dialogue,
- 38:24there was eight hours' worth
- 38:26of
- 38:27discussions on children and climate
- 38:28change, most of which were
- 38:30about
- 38:31children are very vulnerable,
- 38:34we should have more children
- 38:36participating in the negotiations,
- 38:38and oh my god, we're
- 38:39all going to die, basically.
- 38:42Five minutes of that included
- 38:44my presentation in the panel,
- 38:45which
- 38:46emphasized that at the earliest
- 38:48years of a child's life,
- 38:50particularly from birth to age
- 38:51three, are not only the
- 38:52most vulnerable of all but
- 38:54also represent
- 38:55a pivotal window of opportunity.
- 38:58And underscoring that investments in
- 39:00ECD are cost effective, immediate,
- 39:02and have enduring paths,
- 39:04impacts across multiple dimensions of
- 39:07development.
- 39:07So now it's part of
- 39:09the record
- 39:10of the United Nations framework
- 39:12convention that this is a
- 39:13thing.
- 39:14And now we're building towards
- 39:16getting more countries to adopt
- 39:18this as their national position,
- 39:20not because we think that
- 39:22is cool,
- 39:23which it is. I mean,
- 39:24it's super cool for me.
- 39:26But now in Baku, in
- 39:27Azerbaijan for COP twenty nine,
- 39:29because of what we're chasing,
- 39:30which is money.
- 39:32We need money for early
- 39:34childhood development programs.
- 39:36Like we discussed,
- 39:37this is an issue of
- 39:39appropriate financing to begin with.
- 39:41It is an issue of
- 39:42doing the science and understanding
- 39:44it well. But we have
- 39:46been doing that for over
- 39:47fifty years. The field of
- 39:49early childhood development is one
- 39:50of the most mature fields
- 39:52in research
- 39:53in terms of developmental science
- 39:56and policy practice.
- 39:58We need the resources to
- 39:59apply these to countries for
- 40:01their full benefit. And so
- 40:03in Baku, what we're hunting
- 40:05for is opportunities
- 40:06to add language to discussions
- 40:08about financing for adaptation,
- 40:10financing for loss and damage.
- 40:13And because of this full
- 40:15circle thing that brings early
- 40:16childhood development as a contributor
- 40:18to sustainable development,
- 40:20we're proposing it as a
- 40:21building block to mitigation.
- 40:23So
- 40:24in COP thirty, which is
- 40:25the next one, we're looking
- 40:27ahead two years
- 40:28to the COP in Belem
- 40:30in Brazil.
- 40:32It's been presented as they're
- 40:34calling it the Children's COP,
- 40:36which
- 40:37makes me crack up because
- 40:38I think of the Children's
- 40:39Crusade. And it's like, what
- 40:41are they doing? But,
- 40:43but it's cool because it
- 40:44elevates the topic of children
- 40:46as related to climate change.
- 40:47It also
- 40:48provides an opportunity to elevate
- 40:50the topic of young children
- 40:52as related to climate change.
- 40:53So we're hoping that the
- 40:54work we build here
- 40:56is going to allow us
- 40:58to come to
- 40:59Belem
- 41:00with very specific actions that
- 41:02can be implemented by the
- 41:03financing mechanisms of the climate
- 41:05negotiations.
- 41:07Finally, I don't think it's
- 41:08a good idea to end
- 41:09this,
- 41:10without talking about the summit
- 41:12of the future, which is
- 41:14the process that the UN
- 41:15is undertaking
- 41:16to create
- 41:18the new version of the
- 41:19sustainable development goals because they
- 41:21end in two thousand and
- 41:22thirty.
- 41:25It's called the summit of
- 41:26the future. They have a
- 41:27document called,
- 41:29I think it's the Pact
- 41:30of New Generations.
- 41:32None of the documents use
- 41:33the words early childhood development.
- 41:36The sustainable development goals don't
- 41:38use the word early childhood
- 41:39development
- 41:40even though as we have
- 41:42discussed, they are fundamental
- 41:44building blocks of a sustainable
- 41:46world.
- 41:47They are only considered in
- 41:50sustainable development goal four point
- 41:52two that talks about preschool
- 41:54education.
- 41:54All of the things that
- 41:55we talked about, health,
- 41:58parental care, equity,
- 42:00gender equity, none of those
- 42:02areas talks about early childhood
- 42:03development. And that is to
- 42:05the detriment of the sustainable
- 42:06development goals. And it will
- 42:08be to the detriment of
- 42:09the world and the summit
- 42:10of the future
- 42:11if we don't become champions
- 42:13for this topic.
- 42:14So if there are people
- 42:16here from the school of
- 42:17the environment, I am making
- 42:18this call for you to
- 42:19become aware of this because
- 42:21this is your business. It's
- 42:23not just the business of
- 42:24babies.
- 42:25Babies are super cute. They
- 42:27make for great photo opportunities.
- 42:29But in the business of
- 42:31sustainable development, they are the
- 42:33most important driving force for
- 42:35the future we want of
- 42:36sustainability.
- 42:37And it behooves all of
- 42:38us that are in environmental
- 42:40policy to be involved in
- 42:41this fight.
- 42:43So
- 42:44the short coda,
- 42:46the idea here is that
- 42:47we're creating a virtual circle
- 42:49with cycle
- 42:50where this network that supports
- 42:52early childhood development is feeding
- 42:54the
- 42:56the sustainability
- 42:57that we want to achieve.
- 42:58And by having communities that
- 43:00are attending to that, the
- 43:02sustainable development applications
- 43:04of early childhood development are
- 43:05feeding back to making early
- 43:07childhood development better.
- 43:09Wouldn't that be the kind
- 43:10of world that we want
- 43:12to create?
- 43:13And if for no other
- 43:14reason,
- 43:15think about it. Every child
- 43:18of any other area of
- 43:19policy,
- 43:20This is an area of
- 43:21policy where each child that
- 43:23is born, every one individual
- 43:25child that is born, is
- 43:27a new opportunity to steer
- 43:28humanity towards a sustainable development.
- 43:31This is one of the
- 43:32reasons why I took on
- 43:33this area of research and
- 43:35practice
- 43:36and one reason why I
- 43:37feel very optimistic when I
- 43:39do my work. Because if
- 43:41we fully underperform
- 43:43and we only make life
- 43:44better for twenty percent of
- 43:45all young children in the
- 43:46world, we're still feeling that
- 43:49positive loop
- 43:51of making the movement towards
- 43:53sustainable development. Imagine any other
- 43:55area of global policy where
- 43:56you can do that.
- 43:58And with that, I want
- 43:59to thank you and show
- 44:01you one more ridiculous photo.
- 44:03And
- 44:09I think we have time
- 44:10for questions. Yeah?
- 44:15Or comments or
- 44:21yeah.
- 44:31Oh, sorry.
- 44:37Oh, there's there we go.
- 44:40Hello.
- 44:43So I was so I
- 44:44was asking during your work
- 44:45and very important work by
- 44:46the way.
- 44:48Were there
- 44:49any challenges
- 44:50when you introduced the EDC,
- 44:54movement to developing countries?
- 44:59It's a really good question.
- 45:01Thank you.
- 45:02It's kind of like a
- 45:03counterintuitive
- 45:04challenge because there is this
- 45:06gravitational
- 45:07pull when you mention early
- 45:09childhood development
- 45:10to think about a couple
- 45:12of things.
- 45:14Child care, which is sort
- 45:16of the gravitational
- 45:17pull in the United States,
- 45:19child care and preschool. Yeah.
- 45:21And so it's really hard
- 45:22to get them away from
- 45:23that space into multi dimensional
- 45:28connected to sustainable development. So
- 45:29that takes a little bit
- 45:30of doing. The other one
- 45:32as connected to climate
- 45:34and connected to
- 45:35sustainable development
- 45:37is the gravitational pull towards
- 45:39the fantasy
- 45:40of environmental education for babies.
- 45:43A lot of people and
- 45:44even in the climate conference,
- 45:46it has taken me years
- 45:48to realize how
- 45:50you are saying the words
- 45:51that I just said to
- 45:52you. And for a lot
- 45:53of people who come from
- 45:54the environmental field, what they're
- 45:56hearing is let's do more
- 46:00really cool classes about climate
- 46:02for babies.
- 46:03And so
- 46:06that's been a challenge.
- 46:07Beyond that,
- 46:09the response that I usually
- 46:11get, which is also
- 46:13a reason for optimism,
- 46:14is
- 46:15why didn't we know this?
- 46:17And the second response is
- 46:19what can we do to
- 46:19help?
- 46:21So
- 46:22one of the really cool
- 46:23things about this work
- 46:25is that the world is
- 46:26ready for what we're doing.
- 46:28We have just been the
- 46:29best kept secret in sustainable
- 46:31development.
- 46:32We need to put it
- 46:33out there because,
- 46:35I mean, none of the
- 46:36things that I said here
- 46:37are controversial.
- 46:38None of the things that
- 46:39I said here are things
- 46:41that are going to create
- 46:42friction in countries.
- 46:44It's just that for for
- 46:46many people, they have never
- 46:48considered that considered them. And
- 46:50for other people, they have
- 46:51never really figured out how
- 46:52to finance them.
- 46:54Yep.
- 46:55That my question is related
- 46:56to that about Yeah. Yeah.
- 46:57Yeah. I saw the burning
- 46:58question on hand. So I
- 47:00don't think it's the idea
- 47:01so much that people would
- 47:02be opposed to, but the
- 47:03cost. Right? So when anytime
- 47:05any of us here are
- 47:06trying to build
- 47:07programs to help families and
- 47:08to nurture young families, new
- 47:10parents, babies, things like that,
- 47:12there there's sort of this,
- 47:13well, how much does it
- 47:15cost, and is it gonna
- 47:16you know? So we're always
- 47:17having to do these cost
- 47:18analyses and trying to show
- 47:19that that it's gonna make
- 47:20a big impact. So
- 47:22I'm just wondering,
- 47:24yeah, relatedly, has there been
- 47:25pushback around, well, how do
- 47:26we fund
- 47:28this work?
- 47:29So
- 47:30I guess I'll answer that
- 47:31with a story,
- 47:33of something you all know,
- 47:34which is the Inflation Reduction
- 47:36Act. But something you don't
- 47:37know about the Inflation Reduction
- 47:39Act maybe is that it
- 47:40included provisions on early child
- 47:42care,
- 47:43parental leave.
- 47:44It was the whole like
- 47:45the dream. All of the
- 47:46things that everybody has been
- 47:48talking about,
- 47:49that was in the original
- 47:50Inflation Reduction Act. Guess how
- 47:52much of that is in
- 47:53the final Inflation Reduction Act,
- 47:55which by the way, is
- 47:57investing
- 47:58a trillion dollars
- 48:00in the US economy. So
- 48:01when we're talking about proportionality
- 48:03or how much does it
- 48:04cost,
- 48:05we're not really talking about
- 48:07it was just a few
- 48:08billion dollars for this.
- 48:10And Okay,
- 48:11guess how much money
- 48:13went to these programs as
- 48:14opposed to infrastructure?
- 48:16And
- 48:17yes. Exactly. Zero. Because it
- 48:19it is usually the political
- 48:22sacrificial lamb because babies don't
- 48:24vote. They have no money
- 48:26to invest in campaigns.
- 48:27That's my best guess. And
- 48:29nobody will say they hate
- 48:30babies, but when it comes
- 48:32time to cut,
- 48:33something,
- 48:36they will cut the people
- 48:37that cannot complain.
- 48:39And so,
- 48:40yes,
- 48:41that falls into the question
- 48:43about challenges. It's not a
- 48:44direct response because, again, nobody
- 48:46will say, we don't
- 48:48give a rat's ass about
- 48:49babies. But in
- 48:52so those words will never
- 48:54come out of their mouths.
- 48:55But in reality, in practice,
- 48:57when policy is being built
- 48:58and that is why
- 49:00one of the things that
- 49:01I'm very,
- 49:02focused on, and that's why
- 49:04this photo is particularly funny
- 49:06to me, is that I'm
- 49:06trying to
- 49:08move away from what I
- 49:09feel is an infantilization
- 49:10of the early childhood development
- 49:12space.
- 49:13Because it's discussed as this
- 49:14cute thing.
- 49:16And when it's done and
- 49:17when we do that and
- 49:18when we stand in front
- 49:19of the EPA or we
- 49:20stand in front of the
- 49:22Sierra Club or we stand
- 49:23in front of the Environmental
- 49:25Defense Fund, they look at
- 49:27this and they think, oh,
- 49:28we should do a little
- 49:29preschool with decorations about climate
- 49:32change.
- 49:33They are not thinking,
- 49:34here are people
- 49:36talking to us about grown
- 49:37up things that are fundamentally
- 49:40helping us build
- 49:41grown up solve grown up
- 49:43problems. They are thinking about
- 49:45these soft things
- 49:46that is peripheral.
- 49:49I also call them first
- 49:50lady problems or first lady
- 49:52programs.
- 49:53And that's what they are
- 49:55in many countries.
- 49:56So it is our responsibility
- 49:58in the field of early
- 49:59childhood development. And when I
- 50:01do climate negotiating,
- 50:03there's none of this nonsense.
- 50:05It is hard facts, and
- 50:06it's a focus on financing.
- 50:08And it's a focus on
- 50:10financing
- 50:10on the problems of the
- 50:12conference. I don't go there
- 50:13to say children have a
- 50:15problem in the world.
- 50:17I go there to say
- 50:18you have a problem in
- 50:19the world. You haven't figured
- 50:21out how to do climate
- 50:22adaptation, including human development.
- 50:24You haven't figured out how
- 50:25to do climate mitigation,
- 50:27including sustainable development,
- 50:29I have tools for you
- 50:31to do that.
- 50:32And that's when we get
- 50:33to the answer of why
- 50:34didn't we know this and
- 50:36what can we do to
- 50:37integrate these things?
- 50:38The government of the Marshall
- 50:39Islands is not just a
- 50:40little bit committed to this.
- 50:42They understand that this triple
- 50:44return on investment
- 50:45is the only way they
- 50:46survive as a country.
- 50:48The Dominican Republic is catching
- 50:50on very quickly.
- 50:53So moving away from this
- 50:54infantilization,
- 50:55rompers room version of early
- 50:57childhood development policy, and there's
- 50:59no critique on the work
- 51:00that has been done. It's
- 51:02fantastic work. But we have
- 51:04been putting a bubble that
- 51:05it doesn't work in our
- 51:06favor.
- 51:07And when we move transdisciplinary
- 51:09in a transdisciplinary
- 51:10way, we have to communicate
- 51:12in a way that attends
- 51:13to the people that we're
- 51:14communicating with.
- 51:16Yep.
- 51:18I really appreciate the,
- 51:20sort of the the the
- 51:21narrative
- 51:22of,
- 51:23like, stop focusing on
- 51:25the the cutesy pieces here,
- 51:28and helping people to appreciate
- 51:30that when we're talking about,
- 51:31like, early childhood policy,
- 51:33we're talking about more than,
- 51:35you know, just like Mickey
- 51:36Mouse stuff. Right?
- 51:39I'm curious in if you
- 51:40have examples, and I'll give
- 51:42you an example to see
- 51:43if, if you have any
- 51:44others because I'm,
- 51:46I I feel like I'm
- 51:47always in a position, where
- 51:48I'm trying to convince people.
- 51:50This is important.
- 51:51And I've I've come up
- 51:52against that same wall where
- 51:53people will say that babies
- 51:55are cute and everything, but
- 51:56when push comes to shove,
- 51:58you know, they won't follow
- 51:59through.
- 52:00One narrative that's that I
- 52:01found has been helpful is,
- 52:03take childcare for example.
- 52:05Framing childcare as,
- 52:08support for working families. Right?
- 52:11It's like, this is how
- 52:12you get people into the
- 52:13workforce.
- 52:15Like, you take care of
- 52:15their kids, then they can
- 52:17go to work. And so
- 52:18if you care about,
- 52:19you know, the the unemployment
- 52:20rate and, and money in
- 52:22the economy. Right? And so
- 52:24framing,
- 52:25framing it,
- 52:28in in that particular way.
- 52:29Do you have any other
- 52:30examples,
- 52:31that have seemed to work
- 52:32for people where,
- 52:34you're you're shifting the narrative
- 52:36to having people think about
- 52:37early childhood and sustainable policy
- 52:39in
- 52:40terms that
- 52:42they're more familiar with or
- 52:43make more sense.
- 52:45So
- 52:46I I appreciate your point,
- 52:48and and I like the
- 52:49question because it reminds me
- 52:51of a tenet of complex
- 52:53systems that that is that
- 52:54I like, which is that
- 52:56the location of the problem
- 52:58is sometimes
- 52:59not intuitively connected to the
- 53:01location of the solution.
- 53:03And if we begin that
- 53:04trail with the problem,
- 53:05sometimes we get to solutions
- 53:07that are
- 53:08not readable or are not
- 53:10useful.
- 53:11Like climate change is to
- 53:13me the perfect example because
- 53:15climate change, if you begin
- 53:16with climate change as a
- 53:17problem and you use that
- 53:19as the focus of building
- 53:20the solution, the solution is
- 53:22no climate change.
- 53:23But that is not really
- 53:24what we're talking about. The
- 53:26solution to climate change is
- 53:27sustainable development.
- 53:29Okay?
- 53:30So following
- 53:31that thought,
- 53:32when I talk about early
- 53:34childhood development,
- 53:35I hardly ever begin by
- 53:37talking about early childhood development.
- 53:39One of the virtues of
- 53:40being able to cross this
- 53:42bridge because I have this
- 53:43dual
- 53:44nationality in environmental,
- 53:46social ecology,
- 53:47and policy and
- 53:49developmental science is that I
- 53:51lean on this side of
- 53:52the conversation.
- 53:53We talk about water. We
- 53:55talk about
- 53:58economic development. We talk about
- 53:59equity. We talk about all
- 54:01of the other issues of
- 54:02sustainable development and youth. And
- 54:04then you say, and this
- 54:06is why
- 54:07financing early childhood development programs
- 54:10is useful.
- 54:12It serves two purposes. One,
- 54:14it's always better to talk
- 54:15to people that are beyond
- 54:16your field
- 54:17in terms that are readable
- 54:19to them. So that so
- 54:20that's kind of like a
- 54:21warm handshake, I feel.
- 54:23The second is that it
- 54:25creates the proper bridge between
- 54:27because I think that the
- 54:28bridge
- 54:29most people again, we do
- 54:31these national workshops and the
- 54:32workshops begin
- 54:34with two hours
- 54:35just talking about what is
- 54:37early childhood development.
- 54:39And these are ministers of
- 54:41government representing all of the
- 54:42ministries of all of the
- 54:43governments that we're visiting.
- 54:46This is really important because
- 54:48then we give them one
- 54:49hour to ask any question
- 54:51they ever had about these
- 54:52presentations
- 54:53we gave. And the questions
- 54:55you hear
- 54:56are questions
- 54:57that come from people that
- 54:59have never heard the things
- 55:00that we know so well
- 55:02about.
- 55:03Things that have to do
- 55:04with stunting. In Marshall Islands,
- 55:05we spent a full twenty
- 55:07minutes talking about stunting when
- 55:09it was in the question
- 55:10and answer period.
- 55:12But then simpler things like
- 55:13brain development,
- 55:15things that have to I
- 55:16mean, simpler things to us,
- 55:18like
- 55:20epigenetics.
- 55:22And then at that time,
- 55:23it all of these things
- 55:24that are fuzzy
- 55:26and not altogether,
- 55:28clear in their minds start
- 55:30becoming not just clear,
- 55:32but the understanding that they
- 55:34are fundamental.
- 55:35That the damage that that
- 55:37they
- 55:38help that you give at
- 55:39that moment is not just
- 55:41really cool.
- 55:42It is a fundamental building
- 55:44block of a society that
- 55:45will do better.
- 55:46And once that happens, that
- 55:48once that bridge is cross
- 55:50crossed, and so the second
- 55:51piece
- 55:53of experience, I don't know
- 55:54if it's advice, but the
- 55:55second piece of experience is
- 55:57relationship building.
- 55:59Like spending the time that
- 56:00it takes to get to
- 56:02know the people that you're
- 56:03working with. Because just in
- 56:04the exchange,
- 56:06you will be
- 56:07hopefully seen as
- 56:09a goofy but trusted partner.
- 56:12And and that just helps
- 56:14bridge the gap when people
- 56:15are thinking,
- 56:17well, I'm not too sure
- 56:17about this, but I am
- 56:19certainly sure about this person.
- 56:21So
- 56:23I saw another hand. Yeah.
- 56:25Oh, no. This has been
- 56:26fantastic, and I think it's
- 56:27so vitally important,
- 56:29now to be talking about,
- 56:30you know, the the the
- 56:31these huge challenges that we're
- 56:33facing.
- 56:35In light light of the
- 56:36the hurricanes which have recently
- 56:38impacted this good quadrant of
- 56:40the United States,
- 56:42a couple of us have
- 56:43been having conversations
- 56:45with the administration
- 56:46about
- 56:47replicating
- 56:48what the Obama administration did
- 56:50under hurricane Sandy,
- 56:52which was to say never
- 56:53again will we rebuild in
- 56:56the same way with the
- 56:57focus on buildings and people
- 56:58and bridges and all of
- 56:59that, like you said with
- 57:00the infrastructure act. To say,
- 57:02let's never
- 57:04go again
- 57:05and focus on the people.
- 57:06You know, let's rejuvenate the
- 57:07people so that they can
- 57:09they can,
- 57:11be resilient just like you've
- 57:12described.
- 57:13So my question is,
- 57:17what is the punch list
- 57:19of what we need the
- 57:21administration to do now assuming
- 57:23they are gonna put forth
- 57:24a similar effort, you know,
- 57:25rejuvenating the people to be
- 57:27able to withstand climate impacts?
- 57:30What would the categories of
- 57:31your punch list be, and
- 57:32what would be some items
- 57:34on that punch list?
- 57:35So the answer to that
- 57:37one is,
- 57:38I mean, the quickest answer
- 57:39to that one is the
- 57:40nurturing care framework.
- 57:42We have to
- 57:44this is why this is
- 57:45such a powerful, important tool
- 57:47that was built by Global
- 57:49Early Childhood Development Policy
- 57:53scientists
- 57:54that
- 57:55we have to take care
- 57:56of health.
- 57:57We have to take care
- 57:58of parental care, we have
- 58:00to take care of safety
- 58:01and security,
- 58:02we have to take care
- 58:03of nutrition, and we have
- 58:04to take care of opportunities
- 58:06for learning.
- 58:07For children
- 58:09and their, that are zero
- 58:11to three years of age
- 58:12and emphasis on them
- 58:14and their caregivers. Because again,
- 58:16we're not talking
- 58:18about
- 58:19a baby. We're talking about
- 58:21a system.
- 58:22And
- 58:23if we reveal the baby
- 58:25in that system,
- 58:26then we put together
- 58:28interventions that are focused on
- 58:29those children. And
- 58:31the thing is that by
- 58:33virtue of doing that,
- 58:35you are not just talking
- 58:36about the return on resilience.
- 58:37You're talking about the other
- 58:39two returns as well. It
- 58:41is the thing that we
- 58:43always needed to do anyway
- 58:45to make sure that people
- 58:47are rich a life of
- 58:48well-being and potential.
- 58:50It is always the thing
- 58:51that we needed to do
- 58:52to make sure that beyond
- 58:54climate adaptation and resilience,
- 58:56you have communities that are
- 58:57sustainable.
- 58:59So it's,
- 59:00again, it's like grabbing sand
- 59:02always, but but it is
- 59:04an important statement to make
- 59:05because
- 59:06focusing
- 59:07investment and attention in that
- 59:09moment allows you for that
- 59:11broad impact to happen.
- 59:13Can you drill down a
- 59:14couple levels, though, to the
- 59:16ground of implementation?
- 59:17We have a footprint right
- 59:18now that we could be
- 59:19working in, and let's just
- 59:21say there is money out
- 59:22there to do some of
- 59:23some of those those pillars
- 59:24that you discussed.
- 59:26What would it look like
- 59:27in terms of implementation?
- 59:29Yeah. Those are I mean,
- 59:30that's a conversation that we
- 59:32can have following up this
- 59:33because it's two PM. So,
- 59:35but, yes, there are there
- 59:36are many examples. And they
- 59:38are contextual, of course, because
- 59:39it depends on the country
- 59:40and the priorities of that
- 59:42country and the culture of
- 59:43that country. But there are
- 59:44many examples of the application
- 59:46of this.
- 59:47Yes. Thank you. Thank you
- 59:49for your question. Thank you.