YSM Science Fellows Program Information Session 2024
September 19, 2024Information
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- 00:03Okay.
- 00:06Hi, everyone. Welcome to this
- 00:08information session
- 00:09on the science fellows program
- 00:11of the Yale School of
- 00:12Medicine.
- 00:13Thank you so much for
- 00:14joining us.
- 00:16I have to say that
- 00:16I don't see most of
- 00:18you right now. Kristen, you're
- 00:19probably seeing more people.
- 00:22But our goal today is,
- 00:25to give you some basic
- 00:26information about the program and
- 00:27the application process,
- 00:29and then to dedicate most
- 00:31of the time to any
- 00:32questions that you may have.
- 00:37Oops. Okay.
- 00:39So this is the agenda
- 00:40for today. We'll introduce the
- 00:42program briefly,
- 00:43talk about the application process
- 00:45and selection process,
- 00:47give you some advice on
- 00:48how to write a good
- 00:49application,
- 00:50and then, again, your questions.
- 00:56Our goal in this program
- 00:58is to recruit, support, and
- 01:00retain
- 01:01the best possible scientists that
- 01:03we can find from diverse
- 01:05backgrounds. So we're interested in
- 01:07all of you and the
- 01:08research that you're doing and
- 01:09your leadership,
- 01:11and this is our third
- 01:12year.
- 01:13We've had great experience with
- 01:15the first and second years.
- 01:17Just to give you the
- 01:18names of our fabulous fellows,
- 01:21this is from the first
- 01:22year,
- 01:23three fantastic fellows.
- 01:25And then the second year,
- 01:27those are fellows that are
- 01:28just starting right now.
- 01:31And we are in the
- 01:32process of of recruiting the
- 01:34third year fellows.
- 01:38What is the program?
- 01:40So the idea is to
- 01:42recruit higher people
- 01:44at the level of postdoc,
- 01:46but it's really a super
- 01:47postdoc.
- 01:48Right? So,
- 01:50we provide
- 01:51mentoring from several mentors.
- 01:55Fellows coming in will have
- 01:56a mentoring commit mentoring committee.
- 01:58They'll get support from individuals
- 02:00with similar life experiences.
- 02:04They will get training that
- 02:05they'll need.
- 02:07And importantly, there is general
- 02:09salary and independent research funding
- 02:11where the idea, the goal
- 02:13is to keep you here,
- 02:14to give you everything you
- 02:16need to do the best
- 02:17that you can and keep
- 02:18you here as faculty members
- 02:20at the Yale School of
- 02:21Medicine.
- 02:28The funding is a general
- 02:29salary.
- 02:31It started as ninety thousand.
- 02:32It's all actually, a little
- 02:34bit more than that already,
- 02:36plus for benefits.
- 02:38Discretionary
- 02:39funds
- 02:39for moving,
- 02:40for,
- 02:42learning courses,
- 02:43anything that you may want.
- 02:46Research support, independent
- 02:48research support for you that
- 02:50you'll get from the department
- 02:52that you will be in
- 02:53fifty thousand a year.
- 02:56In addition,
- 02:57we have,
- 02:59grant mechanism
- 03:00at the program where you'll
- 03:02be able to apply
- 03:03for additional funding up to
- 03:05one hundred thousand a year.
- 03:07So the idea is for
- 03:08you to be able to
- 03:09pursue your independent
- 03:10research direction.
- 03:12You'll have mentors. You'll be
- 03:14postdocs in a lab or
- 03:15more than one lab. You'll
- 03:17get mentorship and guidance and,
- 03:20training, but you'll also have
- 03:22enough resources
- 03:24to develop your own independent
- 03:26research direction.
- 03:31And there is a pretty
- 03:32simple straightforward
- 03:34application
- 03:35process.
- 03:38Kristen, do you wanna talk
- 03:39about the application process?
- 03:41Yeah. So
- 03:43what we're really trying to
- 03:44do here is
- 03:46review
- 03:47all the applicants in a
- 03:49way that's more holistic,
- 03:52than an a classical
- 03:54postdoc search or faculty search.
- 03:56Right? Postdoc search are
- 03:59disproportionately
- 03:59based on a PI's networks.
- 04:01Right? Any given PI
- 04:04tends to get applicants from
- 04:05those labs that they have
- 04:07collaborated and worked with
- 04:09and
- 04:11tends not you know, no
- 04:13single PI is incentivized to
- 04:15take a risk on a
- 04:16student outside their mentors. They're
- 04:18all recruiting such small numbers.
- 04:19And so
- 04:20by having all the applicants
- 04:22come through the Yale School
- 04:23of Medicine
- 04:24and then down to the
- 04:25department chairs,
- 04:28we're really it's it's almost
- 04:29much more like a PhD
- 04:30application
- 04:31where there's a a a
- 04:33great number of applications at
- 04:34the top, and we're pulling
- 04:35out the very best people
- 04:36and then assigning them or
- 04:38to or or focusing them
- 04:40towards neuro or genetics
- 04:42or cell biology here. And
- 04:44so the goal really is
- 04:45to find
- 04:46the very best possible future
- 04:48faculty
- 04:49independent of research direction
- 04:51and then point you to
- 04:52the right department and right
- 04:54contact.
- 04:55And so
- 04:56what we're asking for is
- 04:57actually we're trying to make
- 04:58it really minimal because we
- 05:00know that you're all from
- 05:01different backgrounds.
- 05:03The first thing is a
- 05:04research statement. We have now
- 05:06greatly expanded the instructions in
- 05:08the application for a research
- 05:09statement because
- 05:11we found in the first
- 05:11year that it was really
- 05:13variable
- 05:14what people would include. And
- 05:15so the idea here is
- 05:16basically think about your research
- 05:18statement as one third, one
- 05:19third, one third.
- 05:20One third about what you've
- 05:22done
- 05:23and how that sets the
- 05:24foundation
- 05:25for one third, what you
- 05:27wanna do short term in
- 05:28the postdoc phase, to one
- 05:30third, how that foundation and
- 05:33postdoc phase will set you
- 05:35up for an independent research
- 05:36phase where, ultimately, you're going
- 05:38to be different from other
- 05:40people at Yale. Right? Because
- 05:41we wanna keep you here.
- 05:43So we're not trying to
- 05:44turn you into a clone
- 05:46of the postdoc mentor that
- 05:47you'd be choosing here. Right?
- 05:49We wanna take where you've
- 05:50been, where you're going, and
- 05:52see a new
- 05:54Yale faculty member.
- 05:55And so this research statement
- 05:57should show us this vision
- 05:58of past, present, future.
- 06:00We want to understand
- 06:02why that future
- 06:04research direction is so important
- 06:06and something that Yale
- 06:08should include. Right? So don't
- 06:10forget to give us the
- 06:10premise. Here's the important problem
- 06:12that you wanna spend, if
- 06:14not your career, the next
- 06:15five or ten years really
- 06:17pursuing.
- 06:18And so that's sort of
- 06:19the idea for
- 06:21the
- 06:23research statement.
- 06:25The next one's more of
- 06:26a personal statement now. So
- 06:31to put it bluntly, we
- 06:33want to bring really fantastic
- 06:36faculty members who will be
- 06:37great for our community here.
- 06:39So that means both scientifically
- 06:42great and mentoring great. Right?
- 06:44Like, I think a lot
- 06:45of faculty searches
- 06:47are only looking for science.
- 06:48Great. Here, we're equally weighting
- 06:50community. Great. And research. Great.
- 06:52We're not down weighting research.
- 06:54But if if before you
- 06:56might have had, you know,
- 06:57a hundred fantastic scientists,
- 06:59twenty of whom would have
- 07:00also made the community. Great.
- 07:02We really only want to
- 07:03interview the twenty who are
- 07:05fantastic scientists and will make
- 07:06our community great. And so
- 07:08we wanna know what your
- 07:09leadership experiences are, how you've
- 07:11contributed to diversity
- 07:14in
- 07:15science, in your department, in
- 07:16your community,
- 07:18what you've done to uplift
- 07:19others,
- 07:21what your background is, if
- 07:23you yourself bring diversity. You
- 07:25know, like, we we really
- 07:27wanna know
- 07:28how our trainees, how our
- 07:30community will be better for
- 07:31your presence. Right?
- 07:33NIH bio style biosketch ought
- 07:36to be self evident. We
- 07:37put a template in there
- 07:38for you, and then three
- 07:40confidential letters of recommendation.
- 07:42One of those
- 07:45I'm just laughing at the
- 07:46comments.
- 07:47One of those should definitely
- 07:49be or hopefully be your
- 07:50PhD adviser. There's always a
- 07:51couple of things where, like,
- 07:52if something's gone
- 07:54really
- 07:57wrong, you might not have
- 07:58a relationship with your PhD
- 07:59adviser, and that's totally fine.
- 08:00But in general, we wanna
- 08:02know
- 08:05who knows you best. So
- 08:06whether that's your adviser, the
- 08:07chair of your committee, a
- 08:08collaborator,
- 08:10you do
- 08:11not and are not expected
- 08:12and are not encouraged
- 08:14to get letters from Yale
- 08:15faculty that you don't know
- 08:16saying that you're going to
- 08:17apply to them. Right? We
- 08:19want people who know you
- 08:20now, who know your trajectory
- 08:21now. I'd rather have an
- 08:22undergrad research mentor who knew
- 08:24you well for four years
- 08:25than a Yale faculty who
- 08:26never met you.
- 08:28So
- 08:30really focus on who can
- 08:31speak to your trajectory
- 08:33moving forward.
- 08:35Yeah. And so, again, the
- 08:37two things that we really
- 08:39wanna equally weight here is
- 08:41that research statement,
- 08:43not just what you did,
- 08:44but why it's important, how
- 08:45it will impact the field,
- 08:46and your personal statement. The
- 08:48things about you that will
- 08:49make you a great member
- 08:50for our community, that will
- 08:52make
- 08:53our trainees flourish with you
- 08:54as a mentor. We are
- 08:55not just looking for postdocs.
- 08:57We are looking for faculty
- 08:59too.
- 09:13Okay. So the way that
- 09:15we have this right now,
- 09:16the application deadline is November
- 09:18first. We do not anticipate
- 09:20any extensions this year. Please
- 09:22do not plan for any
- 09:23extensions.
- 09:24We want the November first
- 09:25because in all honesty, PhD
- 09:27applications are due December first,
- 09:28and we have to get
- 09:30a little bit of this
- 09:30with momentum before the next
- 09:32thousand applications come into faculty
- 09:34to evaluate the school of
- 09:35medicine.
- 09:36So we are gonna put
- 09:37together
- 09:39a committee of,
- 09:41folks involved with the Yale
- 09:42School of Medicine and also
- 09:43representatives from those departments who
- 09:45are most enthusiastic
- 09:47about hosting Yale School of
- 09:48Medicine faculty this year. They
- 09:49are going to first review
- 09:50just the research statements,
- 09:52and the the personal statements.
- 09:54And
- 09:55then we will,
- 09:56as a committee, identify ten
- 09:58to fifteen member or applicants
- 09:59who will be invited for
- 10:05Zoom interviews. Last year, I
- 10:06think the notification for that
- 10:07went out just after Thanksgiving,
- 10:09but we couldn't schedule the
- 10:11interviews till the New Year.
- 10:12We sure wouldn't mind if
- 10:14we could both in notify
- 10:16and interview in December, but
- 10:17I think, again, this year,
- 10:18the placeholder dates will be
- 10:19in January.
- 10:22We will circulate in advance
- 10:24two of the seven questions.
- 10:25All of you will get
- 10:26the same questions if you're
- 10:27invited to a Zoom interview.
- 10:29And then from the ten
- 10:30to fifteen applicants,
- 10:32we'll prioritize about half for
- 10:34in person visits.
- 10:36In the past two years,
- 10:37that has really not been
- 10:39a lot to differentiate the
- 10:40seven to eight in person
- 10:41finalists and the ten to
- 10:42fifteen Zooms in terms of
- 10:44their science and their excellence.
- 10:45It's actually been much more
- 10:46about the fit for the
- 10:47departments.
- 10:48Right? So we don't wanna
- 10:50waste your time and have
- 10:51you interview in person
- 10:52if we don't think that
- 10:54that chair is appropriately enthusiastic
- 10:56about you to begin with.
- 10:57And so for those, departments
- 11:00where there is a strong
- 11:02desire
- 11:03to meet and host and
- 11:06recruit, that's what we're prioritizing
- 11:08here on Fit. And the
- 11:09goal is to make up
- 11:10to four offers. In the
- 11:12last two years, we've made
- 11:13four offers both years. Right,
- 11:15Iffa? Yeah.
- 11:21And so, mostly, we wanted
- 11:23open time for questions
- 11:24because
- 11:26that was a lot of
- 11:26information.
- 11:28There is a FAQ on
- 11:29our website that, basically, every
- 11:31time somebody emailed us a
- 11:32question last year, we posted
- 11:34the answer so that all
- 11:35applicants could see it. That's
- 11:36still there. It will grow
- 11:38this year as more questions
- 11:39come in. This meeting will
- 11:41be recorded so you can
- 11:42come back and look at
- 11:42it again.
- 11:43You're welcome to ask us
- 11:45questions.
- 11:46Now please don't hesitate to
- 11:48because in all likelihood, if
- 11:49you're thinking it, twenty other
- 11:50people on this call are
- 11:52thinking it too.
- 11:55Nothing will be held against
- 11:56you. Obviously, we're not keeping
- 11:57track if you ask what.
- 11:59Great. Our first question, Ruby.
- 12:02Hi. My name is Ruby.
- 12:04Thanks for hosting this session.
- 12:05I just wanted to clarify.
- 12:07For the hundred thousand
- 12:09in competitive research funding,
- 12:11is that for all of
- 12:13the fellows to compete for
- 12:14every year, or is that
- 12:15within one year? Like, as
- 12:17the program gets bigger, is
- 12:19that pie sort of getting
- 12:21divided and want smaller and
- 12:22smaller,
- 12:23or more and more people?
- 12:25That's a great question.
- 12:26And the answer is the
- 12:27pie gets bigger each year.
- 12:29So we're actually happy hoping
- 12:30to have one third of
- 12:31the fellows
- 12:32ideally get the pot each
- 12:34year.
- 12:36So there's a set funding
- 12:37ratio is, I guess, what
- 12:38I'm saying.
- 12:42Nasreen?
- 12:45Hi. Hi, Nasreen.
- 12:47I had a question about,
- 12:49research interests. So,
- 12:52I have a very specific,
- 12:55research interest, unfortunately,
- 12:57But that means that it's
- 12:58kind of hard to find
- 12:59a good
- 13:00fit.
- 13:02So I was wondering, like,
- 13:03how close
- 13:04or how different does a
- 13:07research,
- 13:08interest need to be to
- 13:09be,
- 13:10considered?
- 13:14To be truly considered?
- 13:15Any research interest that could
- 13:17potentially,
- 13:19be accommodated at the school
- 13:21of medicine in a department
- 13:22in one of the departments
- 13:24at the school of medicine
- 13:26is fine. It's totally fine
- 13:27that you have a specific
- 13:28direction that you are interested
- 13:30in.
- 13:31And it may be something
- 13:32that nobody else else is
- 13:34pursuing here, and that will
- 13:36actually make it attractive
- 13:38for departments that want to
- 13:39expand their research direction along,
- 13:43what you are proposing.
- 13:45So definitely as long as
- 13:46you can think of a
- 13:48department
- 13:49at the school of medicine
- 13:51where your research could fit
- 13:53in, that's fine. And as
- 13:55I'm sure you know,
- 13:57departments in school of medicines
- 13:59these days are very
- 14:01interdisciplinary.
- 14:02There's a lot of,
- 14:04many different research directions that
- 14:06are pursued by the same
- 14:07department. So this is totally
- 14:08fine.
- 14:09With the caveat
- 14:11that the school of public
- 14:12health has separated from the
- 14:14school of medicine, and so
- 14:16we had a couple of
- 14:16really amazing applications last year
- 14:19that were deemed
- 14:20too close to public health
- 14:22interest.
- 14:23Likewise, engineering
- 14:24is separate from the school
- 14:26of medicine. And so
- 14:28it doesn't mean engineers are
- 14:29not eligible, but the project
- 14:31that and the research direction,
- 14:34you don't want your reviewers
- 14:36discussing that you would be
- 14:37a better fit for engineering
- 14:38or a better fit. Right?
- 14:39They don't want you to
- 14:40put you from where you're
- 14:41gonna fail. And so,
- 14:44be mindful that engineering and
- 14:46public health
- 14:48are not school of medicine.
- 14:50I have another question based
- 14:52on that, actually. For psychology.
- 14:54Right? That's that's the other
- 14:55one I I wanna add.
- 14:56Psychology,
- 14:57public health, engineering, not school
- 14:58of medicine. Okay. As to
- 15:00add to this, any faculty
- 15:03members have dual appointments or
- 15:05secondary appointments or maybe interested
- 15:07in someone who does engineering
- 15:09work, but they're also
- 15:11part of a department in
- 15:12the school of medicine. So
- 15:13you should,
- 15:15frame your project as appropriate
- 15:18for the department in the
- 15:19school of medicine
- 15:20even though it may have
- 15:22engineering
- 15:22aspects.
- 15:24I see.
- 15:26Thank you.
- 15:30There are a few questions
- 15:32in the chat.
- 15:35Yeah. I'm just typing in
- 15:36answers too. So the first
- 15:38question that I see is,
- 15:40is the funding able to
- 15:41be used for hiring students?
- 15:42And I tried to write
- 15:43post bacc and got autocorrect
- 15:45to post
- 15:46bacc. Post bacc, so fresh
- 15:48out of college,
- 15:49students would be absolutely appropriate.
- 15:51Like, that's what we call
- 15:52a tech around here. And
- 15:54a re a new fellow
- 15:56who who just graduated their
- 15:57PhD obviously cannot be a
- 15:58sole mentor for a PhD
- 16:00student, so that wouldn't fly.
- 16:02But, a postbac would be
- 16:04totally reasonable.
- 16:05If you already started your
- 16:06post, doc, you have to
- 16:08choose one to three departments.
- 16:10If you're already here at
- 16:11Yale, we're not necessarily
- 16:13trying to make you
- 16:14redirect your whole research career.
- 16:16But, again, the goal is
- 16:18to be different than your
- 16:18mentor. So make sure you're
- 16:20thinking about that in your
- 16:21proposal.
- 16:24And, again, interdisciplinary
- 16:26is totally fine. It will
- 16:28be seen by multiple departments,
- 16:29and I would say that
- 16:30I think three quarters or
- 16:31more of the applicants last
- 16:32year were interviewed by two
- 16:34departments or centers.
- 16:38And API status
- 16:41for brands,
- 16:43you can apply to anything
- 16:44that a postdoc can apply
- 16:46to, and you can also
- 16:47be,
- 16:48get the status of an
- 16:50associate research scientist, and then,
- 16:52you could apply as a
- 16:53p a API to anything,
- 16:55faculty can apply to.
- 17:01So, again, to clarify biomedical
- 17:03engineering and bioengineering
- 17:05qualify if the project fits
- 17:07in the school of medicine.
- 17:08If the project is better
- 17:10suited for an engineering department,
- 17:12it will not.
- 17:14And is there a limitation
- 17:15on international applicants? No. There's
- 17:17no visa limitation.
- 17:19And there is a place
- 17:20to indicate
- 17:21departments.
- 17:24So there there are actually
- 17:25fields that allow you to
- 17:26input up to three departments
- 17:28and six potential mentors. Again,
- 17:30you don't have to include
- 17:31mentors, but if there are
- 17:32people
- 17:33specific people that you're already
- 17:35thinking of as potentially suitable
- 17:37for you, you can include
- 17:38them.
- 17:41Now for,
- 17:43hand raising, Tiare.
- 17:48Hi. I was wondering, like,
- 17:50if you already, like
- 17:52so I'm a adjunct,
- 17:54professor at University of New
- 17:56Haven. Also,
- 17:58I work,
- 17:59with PolyJet Lumiere,
- 18:00mentoring students.
- 18:02So how can we bring
- 18:03in those students into
- 18:05those roles as well? Like,
- 18:06if I'm mentoring students and
- 18:07they wanna have research experience,
- 18:09I'm doing one more experience
- 18:10with those.
- 18:11Can I add that to,
- 18:14this application as well? Like,
- 18:15can I bring in those
- 18:16high school students who are
- 18:17interested in, like,
- 18:19what I'm doing research wise?
- 18:24Do you mean bringing,
- 18:26this as
- 18:27including this as part of
- 18:29the application? Bringing students here
- 18:31from University of New Haven,
- 18:33for example? Yes. So I
- 18:34have so I am an
- 18:35adjunct professor at University of
- 18:37New Haven in biochemistry,
- 18:39but also to, like, if
- 18:41I have one on one
- 18:42sessions with students through Polygence
- 18:45and Lumiere with math, science,
- 18:46engineering
- 18:47as one on one tutoring.
- 18:49Can I bring this into
- 18:50the application?
- 18:51How does that look?
- 18:53Also to,
- 18:54can I put that on,
- 18:55like, my application
- 18:57with, like, mentorship,
- 18:58teaching,
- 19:00whatnot? Absolutely.
- 19:01Yeah. In your personal statement,
- 19:03this would be a a
- 19:04really great place to talk
- 19:05about that sort of thing.
- 19:08There was one question that
- 19:10I really wanna address out
- 19:12loud.
- 19:13What is the process for
- 19:14transitioning to a Yale faculty
- 19:16position? Is there a direct
- 19:17route? Do I have to
- 19:18apply for open faculty searches
- 19:19like external candidates?
- 19:21And so one of the,
- 19:22I think, coolest things about
- 19:24this is
- 19:25before you even accept the
- 19:26Yale fellows position,
- 19:28you get to have a
- 19:29discussion with the department chair,
- 19:31the department that's accepting you
- 19:32about what the metrics for
- 19:33promotion will be.
- 19:35Right? And so, usually, these
- 19:36look like things like either
- 19:38have a funded k ninety
- 19:39nine or have a k
- 19:40ninety nine with a really
- 19:41good score
- 19:42or
- 19:43have
- 19:44a a paper accepted or
- 19:45a really exciting preprint.
- 19:48Some departments are actually intentionally
- 19:50holding for more flexibility. Like,
- 19:51oh, we you know, this
- 19:52person's really great, and we
- 19:53don't actually care if they
- 19:54miss the percentile by two
- 19:55cut offs
- 19:58for the k ninety nine.
- 19:58We just wanna see that
- 19:59they're competitive.
- 20:00Some of the others wanna
- 20:02have it, but, like, you
- 20:03and the chair get to
- 20:05mutually decide on the expectations
- 20:07that you and the chair
- 20:08decide are adequate to basically
- 20:11ensure
- 20:13that successful transition.
- 20:16And, no, you don't have
- 20:17to compete against externals. It's,
- 20:19they have to hold
- 20:21space,
- 20:22slot, and funding,
- 20:24for you from the moment
- 20:25they sign that letter as
- 20:26a fellow for when you're
- 20:28ready,
- 20:29on the assumption that you're
- 20:30going to meet those metrics.
- 20:34There's a question about joint
- 20:36mentorship from outside the school
- 20:37of medicine. This is possible,
- 20:39but the primary mentor will
- 20:41have to be from the
- 20:41school of medicine. You can
- 20:43get as much mentorship as
- 20:45you need, and we encourage
- 20:46you to get mentorship from
- 20:47outside the school of medicine.
- 20:49For sure, your primary mentorship
- 20:51will be at the school
- 20:51of medicine.
- 20:57Yes, Elise?
- 20:59Hi. Thanks for this.
- 21:02Does that mean as you're
- 21:03transitioning
- 21:04to a full faculty member,
- 21:07does,
- 21:07when does the tenure track
- 21:10clock start,
- 21:11when you're in this program?
- 21:13Starts when you're appointed as
- 21:15an assistant professor. So your
- 21:16time here as a fellow,
- 21:18as a post doc, doesn't,
- 21:20account for the tenure clock.
- 21:22Got it. Thank
- 21:24you.
- 21:26And Sanchez?
- 21:29Sure. Hello. Thank you for
- 21:30this conversation.
- 21:31I wanted some clarity. I
- 21:33wasn't,
- 21:34I didn't hear exactly what
- 21:35you said about the teaching
- 21:37component.
- 21:38Are we required to teach,
- 21:39and will that be okay?
- 21:41You're not?
- 21:42You're not required to teach.
- 21:43You can teach if you'd
- 21:45like. If you would.
- 21:47You're encouraged to mentor
- 21:49people, but there's no,
- 21:51formal teaching requirement. No.
- 21:53We are trying to protect
- 21:56your time to do what
- 21:57is needed to get promoted
- 21:59in the sense that,
- 22:01you know, there are a
- 22:01lot of preexisting
- 22:03super postdoc positions. So they
- 22:05bring you in. They call
- 22:05you super postdoc, but they
- 22:06expect you from the get
- 22:08go to get all your
- 22:09IRB stuff approved, to get
- 22:10your own mouse protocol approved,
- 22:12to get your own funding.
- 22:13And so you're spending half
- 22:15your time on lab management
- 22:16and and half your time
- 22:17on research, and at the
- 22:18end, competing with postdocs who
- 22:19spend all their time on
- 22:20research. We want you protected
- 22:23from years one and two.
- 22:24We don't want you feeling
- 22:25like you have to spend
- 22:26all your time running for
- 22:27money. We want you to
- 22:28know you have a mentor
- 22:29whose money you are freely
- 22:30available to spend and that
- 22:32you have extra money from
- 22:33the department to spend whenever
- 22:35your mentor says no. Right?
- 22:36Like, we don't want you
- 22:37having to fundraise and do
- 22:39lab management. We want you
- 22:40protected.
- 22:41And then over years three
- 22:42and four and five, we
- 22:43want you able
- 22:45to expand as your own
- 22:47bandwidth expands. And some of
- 22:49you are already Yale postdocs,
- 22:50and we know that ramps
- 22:51gonna go faster. Some of
- 22:52you are changing fields and
- 22:54not at Yale. We know
- 22:55that ramps gonna go slower.
- 22:57That is, like, why it's
- 22:58not like, oh, you have
- 22:59to go up in year
- 23:00five. It's some of you
- 23:01might go up in year
- 23:02three. Some of you might
- 23:03go up transition to faculty
- 23:04in year five. That's really
- 23:06gonna be about you and
- 23:07your path.
- 23:09I'm just checking more of
- 23:10the written
- 23:11about applying to k ninety
- 23:13nine, kinda great, programs like
- 23:15that. For sure,
- 23:17you can definitely apply. You
- 23:19start as a post doc.
- 23:22You are you you should
- 23:23apply to all of these
- 23:25post docs,
- 23:26grants, and fellowships.
- 23:29Later on, you can also
- 23:30start applying to,
- 23:32other brands.
- 23:40Are any departments full? No.
- 23:42But there are a few
- 23:43that have already accepted one
- 23:44or two students. They're unlikely
- 23:46to accept more, but I
- 23:48think everybody's open to it.
- 23:50But those that have already
- 23:51accepted two,
- 23:55I would say, are are
- 23:56less likely.
- 23:58As we get departments signing
- 24:00on that are explicitly looking
- 24:02this year, we will add
- 24:03that.
- 24:06But I I don't think
- 24:07that there's anybody who's told
- 24:08us explicitly there's not a
- 24:10chance they would take somebody.
- 24:12If you let go of
- 24:13NIH funding, it will count
- 24:14against you. Not exactly sure
- 24:16what you mean by this,
- 24:17but, if you are accepted
- 24:19as a fellow, we would
- 24:20like to have discussions with
- 24:22a separate fellow before they
- 24:23turn down money. Because a
- 24:24lot of the time, you
- 24:25could stop working. Like, I
- 24:26wanna, like, I wanna interrupt
- 24:27you and, like, I'm like,
- 24:29I know that I'm gonna
- 24:29have, like I mean, with
- 24:31you. Hi, for instance. This
- 24:32is to you.
- 24:33It's hard to really write
- 24:34to you.
- 24:35But, I had a k
- 24:37nine nine zero zero.
- 24:38I helped another fellow get
- 24:40his funding.
- 24:42The problem is he actually
- 24:44joined one of the labs
- 24:45I got set up first.
- 24:47It's a long story, but,
- 24:49I moved back to Ohio
- 24:50to help my mom when
- 24:51she got cancer. And,
- 24:53he actually joined one of
- 24:55the labs at Stanford that
- 24:56I got accepted in first.
- 24:58And I chose not to
- 24:59go to the lab because,
- 25:00based on how he was
- 25:01treating me and how he
- 25:02was, like, kind of stalking
- 25:03me. And then the fact
- 25:04that he's actually called me
- 25:05and I brought up to
- 25:07NIH,
- 25:07and they defaulted to school.
- 25:10And so I pretty much
- 25:12gave him my funding because
- 25:12I was just like, I
- 25:13don't wanna be in this
- 25:14program if I'm not gonna
- 25:15be protected.
- 25:17I know that's a lot.
- 25:19I know that's, like, a
- 25:20lot, but I first gave
- 25:21up my k zero zero,
- 25:22and I'm kinda, like, regretting
- 25:24it because, like,
- 25:25a lot of
- 25:27labs are not seeing me
- 25:28as, like,
- 25:30as valuable as they should
- 25:32be because I had f
- 25:32nine nine k zero zero.
- 25:34They helped, like, other three
- 25:36people get that, but
- 25:38that's just something I've been
- 25:39balancing and trying to, like,
- 25:41move around,
- 25:42just because the NIH kinda
- 25:44values
- 25:45or the false back to
- 25:47the institution and what they
- 25:48do with, like, assault nonsense.
- 25:50So, like
- 25:52like, I see the I
- 25:53see the name of your
- 25:54I guess, see your face,
- 25:55but, like,
- 25:56I gave up my k
- 25:57zero zero funds right before
- 25:58I came to Yale. But
- 26:00Well I want
- 26:02My I can't understand that
- 26:04I can get, like, a
- 26:06fellowship, but then also it
- 26:07doesn't, like, count and get
- 26:09to me. But also to
- 26:10I don't want to, like,
- 26:11let them know that, like,
- 26:12I can't do this or,
- 26:13like, I'm not, like, a
- 26:14viable postdoc.
- 26:16I was just asking because,
- 26:18like,
- 26:19I like, my dream is
- 26:21still to, like, run a
- 26:22lab. So
- 26:23I don't want that account
- 26:24against me because, like, I
- 26:25gave up my funds because
- 26:27someone was in that program
- 26:28and do anything against it
- 26:30and all those kind of
- 26:31things. So maybe this is
- 26:32something I can talk to
- 26:33you offline,
- 26:34but,
- 26:35I did have f nine
- 26:36nine k zero zero. I'm
- 26:37just wondering, like,
- 26:38does it look bad if
- 26:40someone gave up their funds?
- 26:41It's just because they feel
- 26:42uncomfortable.
- 26:44No. There is no general
- 26:47rule
- 26:48like that. Oh, they gave
- 26:50up their funds, then something
- 26:51is bad. Definitely not. I
- 26:53think we are happy to
- 26:55talk more
- 26:56in private,
- 26:57about your special circumstances, but
- 27:00definitely don't withhold from applying
- 27:03because of that. I mean,
- 27:04we take into account
- 27:06the particular circumstances of different
- 27:09individuals. So it's not
- 27:12a hard rule that works
- 27:13that way or this way.
- 27:16Okay. Yeah. I would go
- 27:17one step further. The face
- 27:18that you saw was my
- 27:19sorryness
- 27:20that you
- 27:22have this in your path,
- 27:23that this shouldn't be in
- 27:25anyone's path.
- 27:27I think
- 27:28it's
- 27:30and if this is part
- 27:31of your journey and you
- 27:32want to put it in
- 27:32your personal statement, of course,
- 27:34you can. If you want
- 27:35your letters to address it,
- 27:36of course, they can.
- 27:40It shows something that you
- 27:42got the funding in the
- 27:43first place. In my mind,
- 27:44much more than that, you
- 27:45had to give it up.
- 27:46And so
- 27:48I think
- 27:49I I would say it
- 27:50would only be useful and
- 27:52competitive to note that you
- 27:54were awarded it.
- 27:56Yeah.
- 27:58Yeah. Absolutely.
- 28:01About metrics,
- 28:02the metrics are decided
- 28:05in discussion between the fellow
- 28:07and the mentoring committee. So
- 28:09everything should be decided
- 28:11when you first start.
- 28:13There are usually long discussions
- 28:15on what exactly should be
- 28:16put in the letter and
- 28:17the agreement.
- 28:19And then
- 28:20only something that makes you
- 28:22happy and makes the department
- 28:24happy,
- 28:25is agreed upon.
- 28:31Yes? Gizam, I'm probably mispronouncing.
- 28:33I'm sorry.
- 28:35Hi. I'm Gizam Efe.
- 28:39So once we become a
- 28:40fellow and eventually,
- 28:42a tenure track faculty,
- 28:44do we keep our early
- 28:46stage investigator status
- 28:48as defined by NIH?
- 28:51We are trying to make
- 28:52you eligible for as much
- 28:53funding as possible. So we
- 28:55are trying to be able
- 28:56to accommodate everything from f
- 28:57thirty two applications from the
- 28:59fellows all the way to
- 29:00k ninety nine,
- 29:02to
- 29:04and every like, our goal
- 29:06is to really ensure that
- 29:07you are
- 29:09oh, funding is open to
- 29:10you. We are trying very
- 29:12hard to to
- 29:14maximize your eligibility, not put
- 29:16constraints on it. That's why
- 29:17you're not being hired as
- 29:18as
- 29:20faculty,
- 29:21and that officially your titles
- 29:22are actually postdoc.
- 29:23Mhmm.
- 29:25So, other k grants, absolutely.
- 29:27I mentioned k ninety nine
- 29:28because someone asked about it,
- 29:30but definitely
- 29:31any k award, any award
- 29:33that a postdoc can apply
- 29:34to, you can and are
- 29:36encouraged to apply to.
- 29:38And the departments,
- 29:40I can
- 29:41we can definitely first of
- 29:42all, the departments that accepted
- 29:44fellows already. This is not
- 29:45a secret. It's on our
- 29:47website.
- 29:48We celebrate these fellows.
- 29:51Immunobiology
- 29:52is the department that has
- 29:53two fellows.
- 29:54And then,
- 29:57genetics,
- 29:59cell biology,
- 30:00psychiatry,
- 30:01pathology
- 30:03are departments that have one
- 30:04fellow.
- 30:05Did I miss one department?
- 30:08But, really, other than immuno
- 30:09biology that probably will have
- 30:11a hard time taking another
- 30:13one, although I'm not sure
- 30:14that it's,
- 30:15you know, a definite no,
- 30:17but it's less likely than
- 30:18other departments.
- 30:19Other departments are very, very
- 30:21interested. And especially after the
- 30:23first two years that were
- 30:25so
- 30:25successful, it made other departments
- 30:28understand,
- 30:29the level of of the
- 30:31the quality of of candidates
- 30:33that they can get if
- 30:34they participate in this.
- 30:43Hi. Yes.
- 30:45I had another question about,
- 30:47areas
- 30:48of research.
- 30:50I took a brief look
- 30:52at the departments that are
- 30:53listed currently, and
- 30:55it seems to be more
- 30:57basic research, whereas my,
- 31:00research is more, like, human
- 31:01and translational
- 31:03research. Is that,
- 31:05less wanted?
- 31:07Translational
- 31:08research is absolutely wanted.
- 31:12The only thing that is
- 31:13not included is if it's
- 31:15just clinical, if it's completely,
- 31:18clinical. For example, research on
- 31:20clinical services,
- 31:23something that,
- 31:25is purely clinical. Any translational,
- 31:27including human research, we have
- 31:29a Mhmm. Coming in and
- 31:30fellow coming in, Cleona Kelly,
- 31:33who does human research with
- 31:35virtual reality,
- 31:36things like that. So it's
- 31:37definitely not just basic science
- 31:40at the
- 31:41Mhmm.
- 31:42In the sense of, like,
- 31:43the bench science.
- 31:44Yeah. Thank you.
- 31:49Yes. Sabona?
- 31:57I I I I was
- 31:58trying to get an idea
- 31:59of the,
- 32:00timeline. My apologies. My camera
- 32:02just doesn't wanna cooperate right
- 32:04now.
- 32:05So
- 32:06do you need to apply
- 32:07to this,
- 32:09program after you defend or,
- 32:11you know, how long does
- 32:12the application process takes? Or
- 32:14It could be before. If
- 32:15you so the position
- 32:19starts sometime in the summer
- 32:21or fall of twenty twenty
- 32:22five. So if you expect
- 32:24to graduate by then, you
- 32:26can apply.
- 32:28Okay. Thank you.
- 32:39Yeah. It's totally fine to
- 32:41apply to faculty positions while
- 32:43you're also applying for this.
- 32:44We actually had sometimes it
- 32:46happens that we get candidates
- 32:48that apply to faculty positions
- 32:50and departments thought, you know,
- 32:52maybe they would be better
- 32:53off starting as, science fellows.
- 32:56You can definitely apply to
- 32:57both.
- 33:04Yeah. I'm I've been adding
- 33:07comments
- 33:10to the chat.
- 33:13Yeah. Kristen first visit included
- 33:15scientific talk or a chalk
- 33:16talk, just a scientific talk.
- 33:18We recognize that recent PhDs,
- 33:22won't have a lot of
- 33:23practice with that.
- 33:25I think don't worry about
- 33:27applying simultaneously to faculty searches.
- 33:28We won't know. It's fine.
- 33:30It's probably to your advantage
- 33:31because you'll have had more
- 33:32practice,
- 33:33in all honesty.
- 33:34I would like to know
- 33:35which departments have already accepted.
- 33:37I think we already told
- 33:38you. Ideally, we should get
- 33:39it posted on the website
- 33:40if we haven't yet.
- 33:42I think
- 33:43I have answered all the
- 33:44questions in the chat. If
- 33:46I missed one, just retype
- 33:47it. Mhmm. That's good. And
- 33:50I apologize. For some reason,
- 33:51my keyboard stopped working, so
- 33:53I can't
- 33:54reply in writing.
- 33:57What is the ratio of
- 33:58recent PhD grads versus later
- 34:00career? I mean,
- 34:02we are trying to keep
- 34:03it under two years of
- 34:04postdoc. Like, ultimately, we probably
- 34:07wouldn't mind if the program
- 34:08was all recent PhDs, but
- 34:10it's only two years old.
- 34:11And so we've been open
- 34:12to one to two year
- 34:13postdocs and considering them on
- 34:15a case by case
- 34:16basis.
- 34:19But please don't hold back
- 34:20if you're still in your
- 34:21PhD. Like,
- 34:23we're kinda more model after
- 34:25that f ninety nine. We
- 34:26don't want you applying two
- 34:27years early, like the f
- 34:28ninety nine or something. But,
- 34:31I would say ideally would
- 34:32be you are defending in
- 34:34twenty twenty four, twenty twenty
- 34:35five.
- 34:36Mhmm.
- 34:37Oh, another one. K. I
- 34:39just wanna say, like, I
- 34:40the new system's f nine
- 34:41nine, but I had f
- 34:42nine nine k c zero.
- 34:43And if anyone is interested
- 34:45in applying for that,
- 34:46doctor Michelle
- 34:48Jones London is amazing and
- 34:49and Lauren,
- 34:51Euric.
- 34:52They're amazing. The program is
- 34:53amazing.
- 34:54I left because of personal
- 34:56reasons, and this won't happen
- 34:58to everybody. But,
- 34:59if you are planning to
- 35:00apply, please let me know
- 35:01because I was awarded,
- 35:03back in
- 35:05twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, and
- 35:07one of my mentors, Marguerite.
- 35:10I know some amazing people
- 35:11there. But if you wanna
- 35:12apply, please let me know.
- 35:14Thank you so much for
- 35:16saying this.
- 35:17And I will send you
- 35:18my application materials
- 35:20for sure for sure.
- 35:22No need to get confirmation
- 35:23from a lab. You don't
- 35:24even need to talk to
- 35:25a lab. You can if
- 35:26you want to, but there
- 35:27is no need for this
- 35:28at
- 35:29all.
- 35:30We, you have an option
- 35:32to put names of up
- 35:33to six potential PIs just
- 35:35because it will help us
- 35:36in the review process to
- 35:37know what your research is
- 35:39like, who is, suitable to
- 35:41review your your application.
- 35:43No need to get confirmation.
- 35:48Graduates spend time in industry.
- 35:50That's totally fine.
- 35:53But, again, not more than
- 35:55one or two years. We
- 35:56want people to have to
- 35:57be to come to us
- 35:58soon after they graduate.
- 36:03Yeah. No hard start date.
- 36:15Yes.
- 36:16Elise?
- 36:18Yeah. Can you speak to
- 36:20how things have been going
- 36:21for the folks in the
- 36:22first two cohorts?
- 36:24How has the mentorship been
- 36:26experience been for them? How
- 36:27are they train how are
- 36:28they enjoying
- 36:30transitioning to independence?
- 36:31Has it been
- 36:33challenging? Anything about that? I
- 36:34mean, this
- 36:35obviously sounds very good, but
- 36:37there
- 36:38are realistic
- 36:39things that happen in these
- 36:41programs.
- 36:42Yeah. My recommendation
- 36:44is,
- 36:45to talk to them directly,
- 36:47and they are very happy
- 36:48to talk to people. The
- 36:49first cohort. The second cohort
- 36:51is just starting right now.
- 36:52The first cohort, I think,
- 36:54overall had a very good
- 36:55experience. Of course, there are
- 36:56challenges, and so they have
- 36:59actually been talking to the
- 37:00second cohort,
- 37:02to give advice. We have
- 37:03learned a lot with them.
- 37:06As I see it, overall,
- 37:08it's very successful,
- 37:09but it has challenges that
- 37:11we are learning from. And,
- 37:12for example, the application process
- 37:14that Kristen
- 37:15described, we have improved based
- 37:17on,
- 37:20what we learned from the
- 37:21previous cohorts.
- 37:22Same goes to how the,
- 37:26process itself goes during the
- 37:27year.
- 37:29I I wanna add, actually,
- 37:32in the interest of protecting
- 37:33the time of the current
- 37:35Yale fellows, I don't wanna
- 37:36encourage a hundred people emailing
- 37:37them now. We absolutely had
- 37:40them meet with those who
- 37:41came in person as finalists,
- 37:43But please don't have all
- 37:45of you very enthusiastically
- 37:47email them in much the
- 37:48same way that, like, having
- 37:50college students email every faculty
- 37:51member that they could possibly
- 37:53be interested in every school
- 37:54they're applying to as to
- 37:55everybody's workload.
- 37:57We will have in person
- 37:58finalists meet with all in
- 38:00person Yale fellows,
- 38:03but maybe just apply without
- 38:06all of you collectively emailing
- 38:07them. That would be a
- 38:08really heavy burden.
- 38:12Ruby?
- 38:14Yeah. I was
- 38:16wondering right. So, obviously, it's
- 38:18a huge advantage
- 38:19to not have to go
- 38:20on the open search as
- 38:21you're transitioning into faculty,
- 38:24but that could raise questions
- 38:26about,
- 38:28you know, whether
- 38:30the
- 38:31how to sort of negotiate
- 38:32those terms, right, in terms
- 38:33of your start up package.
- 38:35So I was wondering if
- 38:36if there's any
- 38:37resources out there in terms
- 38:38of understanding
- 38:39what to expect.
- 38:41Again, this is, like, sort
- 38:42of two steps ahead maybe.
- 38:44Right? But,
- 38:45I guess understanding what to
- 38:47expect from a start up
- 38:48package
- 38:49at Yale if you're going
- 38:50through this program, and
- 38:52you may be sort of
- 38:53less incentivized
- 38:54to,
- 38:55to go on the open
- 38:56search.
- 38:57So a couple of points.
- 38:58One, they've worked really hard
- 39:00to standardize incoming packages at
- 39:02Yale in matters of equity
- 39:03because it's known
- 39:05that some genders and and
- 39:07backgrounds don't negotiate as well.
- 39:09Two, the chairs have committed
- 39:10to giving,
- 39:12standard packages.
- 39:14Three, as much as I
- 39:15would love to say you'll
- 39:16all be so happy you
- 39:17won't even apply outside, I
- 39:19suspect some or many of
- 39:20you will. We're hoping that
- 39:22our offer and our environment
- 39:23and our package will be
- 39:24competitive to any other outside
- 39:25ones you happen to get.
- 39:26We're not telling you you're
- 39:27not allowed to. Right? Like,
- 39:28I don't wanna hold you
- 39:29back from other possibilities.
- 39:34But I will say a
- 39:35lot of our current fellows
- 39:36are thinking about things like,
- 39:38you know, putting down roots
- 39:40in New Haven,
- 39:41having families,
- 39:42buying houses, and the kind
- 39:43of things that you get
- 39:44to do when you don't
- 39:45have to think about your
- 39:46life as a three year
- 39:46phase.
- 39:49There's a question about departments
- 39:51that are certainly looking. We
- 39:52have many departments that are
- 39:53interested. I don't think we
- 39:55have you know, no department
- 39:57can commit
- 39:58to certainly,
- 39:59hiring someone.
- 40:01So, you know, if you
- 40:03if your interests are compatible
- 40:05with any department at the
- 40:06school of medicine, do apply.
- 40:20We have more time.
- 40:22Like I said, it's sometimes
- 40:24a lot easier to relay
- 40:25stuff out loud than by
- 40:27email. So
- 40:29please feel free to type
- 40:30in the chat or ask
- 40:31these questions now where we
- 40:32can give the answer to
- 40:32everybody.
- 40:37But if questions come up
- 40:39later on, also feel free
- 40:41to email Kristen or me.
- 40:42We're always happy to answer
- 40:43questions.
- 40:47Would a third year postdoc
- 40:48fellow be ineligible? I would
- 40:50say
- 40:53we don't wanna say anybody's
- 40:55ineligible, but I would say
- 40:58we're
- 41:00going to be more
- 41:02like, we we really are
- 41:04looking for
- 41:05recent. This program becomes very
- 41:06long.
- 41:08Are there spots reserved for
- 41:10ISM fellows?
- 41:11Okay. So we are trying
- 41:13to get more like, you
- 41:15would be doing a very
- 41:16long post op to have
- 41:17done three years, three and
- 41:18a half years, then come
- 41:19start again here.
- 41:20I'm not saying we would
- 41:21rule it out if you
- 41:22had a really good plan,
- 41:23but be mindful that
- 41:26we would be like, why
- 41:27why would you be starting
- 41:27your postdoc again? What's the
- 41:29gain?
- 41:30Are there faculty spots reserved
- 41:32for YSM fellows? Yes. That
- 41:33specific department has to hold
- 41:35a spot, funding, and physical
- 41:37space for the fellows and
- 41:39answers that are like and
- 41:40and in fact, after the
- 41:42in person interviews,
- 41:43when we had eight get
- 41:44down to four, again, it
- 41:45wasn't about the science
- 41:47of the four who got
- 41:48it versus the four who
- 41:49didn't. It's actually about the
- 41:50departmental commitment. Those departments that
- 41:52said I'm holding room x
- 41:54and funding y
- 41:55were actually deemed more competitive
- 41:57than those that said, oh,
- 41:58we'll borrow space into the
- 41:59deed in the future somehow.
- 42:01A gap in training. Again,
- 42:03that's there is no hard
- 42:04rule. So that could be
- 42:05totally fine.
- 42:07If you have a good
- 42:08reason, you know, childcare,
- 42:10whatever, just explain it in
- 42:12your in your letter.
- 42:14The length of time,
- 42:16from your graduation is just
- 42:18a factor that is taken
- 42:19into account. It's not
- 42:21yes or no. So, absolutely,
- 42:23there could be gaps, and
- 42:24that would be fine.
- 42:27Yeah.
- 42:28Taking care of a parent,
- 42:29of course, then, you know,
- 42:31that would not be considered.
- 42:33That would not not be
- 42:34counted.
- 42:42Your top suggestion is for
- 42:44crafting a competitive application. Now
- 42:46I guess my first thing
- 42:47to keep in mind is
- 42:48that this committee is gonna
- 42:49be full of diverse scientists
- 42:50representing diverse departments in the
- 42:52sense that don't assume we're
- 42:54all experts in what you're
- 42:55doing and why your problem
- 42:56is important. Right? Assume somebody
- 42:57with a PhD
- 42:59or an MD is reading
- 43:00your application, but do not
- 43:01assume that they are already
- 43:03convinced and aware of your
- 43:05problem and why it's important.
- 43:06So frame
- 43:08the premise
- 43:09very carefully
- 43:11for
- 43:12scientists outside your field.
- 43:15Explain how your training,
- 43:16both PhD and future postdoc,
- 43:19will make you the only
- 43:20person and best person on
- 43:21the planet to conduct this
- 43:23very important research. Research. Right?
- 43:25Like, don't just tell us
- 43:26what you're going to do.
- 43:26Tell us why you're going
- 43:27to do it.
- 43:29And then second of all,
- 43:31tell us
- 43:33why you're the kind of
- 43:34person we wanna have at
- 43:36Yale. Right? Like, there are
- 43:38plenty of searches
- 43:39that filter on journal impact
- 43:41factor and funding coming in.
- 43:43We are trying to filter
- 43:44on faculty members who will
- 43:46make the Yale environment better.
- 43:48So why will our students
- 43:50or our postdocs
- 43:52be better off
- 43:53for you as a faculty
- 43:55member?
- 44:10Any other questions?
- 44:23And do feel free to
- 44:24take a look at the
- 44:25recording later and the back
- 44:28and shoot us emails.
- 44:30We're really happy to help.
- 44:32Oh, there's a lot more
- 44:33coming in here.
- 44:37We can't show you other
- 44:39people's
- 44:40research statements and personal statements.
- 44:42With so few accepted students,
- 44:44there's no way we can
- 44:44anonymize this yet. Maybe in
- 44:46five years, we would be
- 44:47able to.
- 44:50But right now, I think
- 44:51out of fairness to the
- 44:53current students, I think if
- 44:54you had only just started,
- 44:55you would probably be reluctant
- 44:56to openly publish it.
- 44:58Formatting templates and requirements,
- 45:01I think it says right
- 45:02in the application, one page,
- 45:03single spaced,
- 45:05half inch margins or something.
- 45:08Standard NIH format.
- 45:11You receive an offer before
- 45:13the five years are offer.
- 45:15Yes. That's that's fine. Five
- 45:17years are the maximum.
- 45:19If you're ready to transition
- 45:20to a faculty position before
- 45:21that, that's totally fine.
- 45:24Actually, it's good.
- 45:40Extra support. So,
- 45:42we have some resources at
- 45:44Yale,
- 45:45for grant writing
- 45:47and leadership
- 45:49and mentorship
- 45:51that our current fellows are
- 45:53joining
- 45:54ongoing
- 45:54things at Yale with other
- 45:56postdocs
- 45:57and fellows.
- 45:58But we're now in the
- 45:59process of designing things that
- 46:01will be more
- 46:02specific for our fellows. So
- 46:03far, we had three fellows,
- 46:06working last year. Now where
- 46:08the numbers are
- 46:09beginning to increase,
- 46:11we'll have more pro
- 46:13program specific for for fellows.
- 46:16We're trying to take advantage,
- 46:18the collective resources available at
- 46:20Yale. So some departments already
- 46:22have mentoring programs, like, I
- 46:23know genetics does.
- 46:25The school of medicine already
- 46:26has one for medical,
- 46:29faculty who have k
- 46:31what did they get? K
- 46:32zero ones,
- 46:34I think, and, our fellows
- 46:35have been joining that. We
- 46:37are you know, the first
- 46:39year, we we knew that
- 46:40there's a lot of transition
- 46:41just to come into Yale,
- 46:42and they were supposed to
- 46:43be working on their science
- 46:44for a year or two.
- 46:45And so we are going
- 46:46to be adding a career
- 46:48training
- 46:49as our as our fellows
- 46:50mature, basically.
- 47:06Okay. It looks like we
- 47:07are every time I say
- 47:08we're all out, people start
- 47:09typing again.
- 47:11So I'll I'll say it
- 47:12really slowly.
- 47:13It looks like we are
- 47:14out of questions.
- 47:16I'll give you all another
- 47:17minute or two to type
- 47:19them,
- 47:20but I I think I
- 47:21think we've answered all of
- 47:22them for now, and we'll
- 47:23answer more by email.
- 47:26Mhmm.
- 47:27Thank you so much for
- 47:28joining.
- 47:29Thanks everyone for your interest.
- 47:33Thank you for all the