Incoming Faculty Orientation: Research Resources
September 06, 2024Information
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- 00:02Great. Thank you, and welcome
- 00:04to Yale, everybody.
- 00:06I'm here to present a
- 00:07few things that we have,
- 00:09developed recently as well as
- 00:11some continued resources
- 00:12for informatics,
- 00:14computing, data science, and
- 00:17AI at the school of
- 00:18medicine.
- 00:19So, my goals here
- 00:21are,
- 00:22or the goals of our
- 00:24core in as an informatics
- 00:25core to enable health discoveries
- 00:28through data analysis and computation,
- 00:29renovated here at the AIU.
- 00:31You will have, by the
- 00:32end of this calendar year,
- 00:33some state of the art,
- 00:36systems to compute, with your
- 00:38data
- 00:45and, do that in a
- 00:47secure privacy preserving HIPAA compliant
- 00:49manner.
- 00:50To support innovation with,
- 00:53by computational
- 00:54researchers, increase collaborations with all
- 00:56departments and the centers,
- 00:58in within and outside Yale,
- 01:00and then increased participation of,
- 01:02groups currently underrepresented
- 01:04in biomedical computing, which
- 01:07still, borrows a lot from
- 01:09engineering and that therefore has
- 01:10some of the same,
- 01:12issues of,
- 01:14unequal
- 01:15representation.
- 01:17And we do compute services
- 01:18and training. So I'll go
- 01:20briefly
- 01:21about our very colorful
- 01:23picture
- 01:24about where our compute environments
- 01:27reside. So the ones in
- 01:28the dotted lines,
- 01:30are within the health system,
- 01:32the Yale New Haven Health,
- 01:34and they are fully HIPAA
- 01:35compliant,
- 01:36and that's where all your
- 01:38human subjects
- 01:39research should be done at
- 01:41this point. It's the Yale,
- 01:43HIPAA compliant
- 01:45environment.
- 01:45There are two aspects of
- 01:47it. One is called,
- 01:48virtual desktop interface.
- 01:50That is when your,
- 01:52laptop serves as a terminal,
- 01:55so to speak, to a
- 01:57server that is with all
- 01:58the security
- 01:59out there. Much easier. You
- 02:01don't need to maintain your
- 02:02own applications. It's secure,
- 02:05and it's a way to,
- 02:07make sure that,
- 02:09if you inadvertently
- 02:11lose your laptop or so
- 02:12that you don't have to
- 02:13go through all the procedures
- 02:15that have to be done
- 02:17when you lose a a
- 02:18laptop that contains patient information.
- 02:21You probably know this from
- 02:23all your previous institutions,
- 02:25but I would like to
- 02:26emphasize
- 02:28in here
- 02:29that, you know, there is
- 02:30increased,
- 02:31attention to these matters.
- 02:34Also, there are some specs
- 02:36here very, crude, but, we
- 02:38have been adding GPUs to
- 02:40this environment so that you
- 02:42can do more,
- 02:44intense computation
- 02:46as well. And as you
- 02:47know,
- 02:48medical large language models, LLM,
- 02:52they require lots of GPUs,
- 02:53and we have some some
- 02:55versions of it planned for
- 02:57for new environments.
- 02:59Then we have something
- 03:00so ChipSafe
- 03:02is
- 03:02hardware from from here.
- 03:05Again,
- 03:06that,
- 03:07is directly at the servers
- 03:08that you can,
- 03:10compute, and you see on
- 03:11top several of the the
- 03:13logos for,
- 03:15programming language or environment
- 03:17or statistical
- 03:19packages that some of you
- 03:20may be familiar
- 03:21with.
- 03:23Now for,
- 03:24the number three, which is
- 03:25called spin up plus,
- 03:27that is Amazon Web Services,
- 03:30Amazon Cloud as many of
- 03:31you probably
- 03:32do your computation there.
- 03:35We have been,
- 03:36upgrading it to be a
- 03:37HIPAA compliant portion of the
- 03:39cloud for the Yale
- 03:41system. So, it's not there
- 03:43yet, but it will be
- 03:45pretty soon in which, you
- 03:47would compute as you compute
- 03:49with,
- 03:52your regular Amazon cloud,
- 03:54but with the peace of
- 03:56mind that the security and
- 03:58the privacy
- 03:59aspects are are being taken
- 04:00care for you.
- 04:02And the last one, again,
- 04:04the
- 04:05hardware will be installed, will
- 04:07be here all in December.
- 04:09We will do a bunch
- 04:10of testing and other things,
- 04:11and then the GPU nodes,
- 04:14NVIDIA ones will be available
- 04:16also,
- 04:17in a protected environment for,
- 04:20computation with LLMs, with AI,
- 04:23and all sorts of things,
- 04:25using patient data. So so
- 04:27I I do put here
- 04:29so that you know the
- 04:30environment,
- 04:31is being developed in pieces.
- 04:33Some of it is already
- 04:34there and some will be
- 04:35soon.
- 04:36For clinical research data services,
- 04:39so
- 04:40you're always,
- 04:41probably curious, how do I
- 04:42compute with data from the
- 04:44health system?
- 04:45So there are,
- 04:46free consultations
- 04:48on depending on what you
- 04:49need, training and office hours.
- 04:51There is a self-service
- 04:53data.
- 04:54So some of you who
- 04:55worked with Epic before may
- 04:57have worked with slicer dicer,
- 04:59which is an interface
- 05:00for population health, so to
- 05:03speak.
- 05:04And, you can do that
- 05:05or you can use freehand,
- 05:08SQL language
- 05:09that,
- 05:11it's often used for database
- 05:12retrieval, and you can, reuse
- 05:15existing reports and extract. So
- 05:17depending on your level
- 05:19of,
- 05:19expertise with data extractions and
- 05:22so on, you would utilize
- 05:23different types of services.
- 05:26There is also custom data
- 05:27engineering, data flow automations for
- 05:29projects that will require integration
- 05:32with epic services
- 05:34and few others things.
- 05:37Custom datasets and custom data
- 05:39marks. Some some, groups have
- 05:41registries,
- 05:42for example, of a particular,
- 05:44disease,
- 05:45all the patients in that
- 05:46and so on. So that
- 05:47all needs to be done
- 05:48in a very protected manner.
- 05:51Cosmos
- 05:52is,
- 05:53some of you may know
- 05:54or or or not, Epic
- 05:56has this consortium of institutions.
- 05:58There are two hundred forty
- 05:59seven,
- 06:01of them, I believe, across,
- 06:03the United States in which
- 06:05they agree to share
- 06:07the identified data or limited
- 06:09data sets, some some,
- 06:12special type of data. And
- 06:14only the members of the
- 06:15consortium can use. You are
- 06:17members as as you are
- 06:18at at Yale now, and
- 06:20then you can consult. And
- 06:21that's way more data than
- 06:23the local health system, which
- 06:25is a large one, but
- 06:27nothing compared to two hundred
- 06:29eighteen million patients.
- 06:31And also, as you know,
- 06:33the papers that are single
- 06:34center
- 06:36are less likely to be,
- 06:38published in high end journals
- 06:40and so on. So I
- 06:41encourage you
- 06:42to, get the training that
- 06:44is necessary for Cosmos. It's
- 06:46not everyone is allowed, but
- 06:48every department has,
- 06:51or will send a a
- 06:52representative to be the data
- 06:54person for Cosmos.
- 06:56So if you are interested,
- 06:57do ask your department representatives
- 07:00or come to us.
- 07:01OMOP is a standardized type
- 07:04of clinical data warehouse.
- 07:06It's analysis friendly friendly, and
- 07:08you can use,
- 07:09that as well.
- 07:12Clinical research applications, electronic data
- 07:15capture tools. You might have
- 07:16heard of REDCap. There is
- 07:18portions of EPIC for this
- 07:20purpose in in,
- 07:21another EDC.
- 07:24IRB approved econsent systems are
- 07:26available as well for your
- 07:28studies, clinical trial management, and
- 07:31integration with the electronic health
- 07:32record system.
- 07:35Integrated cohorts discovering screening
- 07:37management tools. You want to
- 07:39know how many patients with
- 07:40x, y, and z,
- 07:42have been seen in the
- 07:43system since
- 07:45two thousand and ten. That
- 07:47that should be something
- 07:48relatively easy to query.
- 07:51And then custom software engineering
- 07:53services that, takes longer. And
- 07:55then, again, it it's a
- 07:56discussion on is it doable,
- 07:58what are the timelines, what
- 08:00are the funding, and so
- 08:01on.
- 08:02Patient recruitment and outreach systems
- 08:05with a patient portal, self-service,
- 08:07cohort identification,
- 08:09or if it's complicated, let's
- 08:11say you have to have
- 08:13patients
- 08:14who have not taken this
- 08:16class of drugs
- 08:17before this procedure and and
- 08:20something that gets more complex,
- 08:22then you can also get
- 08:23assistance from data analysts.
- 08:26Like I said, create registries
- 08:28and self management,
- 08:30outreach lists.
- 08:31We also have the first,
- 08:34external database we have licensed
- 08:37for the whole Yale University
- 08:39is,
- 08:40Meritiv MarketScan.
- 08:42This is based,
- 08:44essentially of,
- 08:45claims data, and many people
- 08:47do research on that,
- 08:49as well, and it's available.
- 08:51We have partnered with the
- 08:53library so that they can
- 08:55help you with access to
- 08:56this, with access to the
- 08:58all of us,
- 09:00research program data, which,
- 09:02currently has a very large
- 09:04collection, the largest
- 09:05in the US
- 09:07of,
- 09:08sequences of human genomes. It
- 09:10has a lot of electronic
- 09:11health record data in standardized
- 09:13format,
- 09:14and it has,
- 09:16questionnaire data
- 09:17as well.
- 09:18And besides that, we have
- 09:20also,
- 09:21organized a local copy of
- 09:23the UK Biobank
- 09:25even though the the rules
- 09:26are changing for that Biobank
- 09:28and, will we
- 09:30be a similar model
- 09:32of the all of us
- 09:33in which you have to
- 09:34compute it in their particular
- 09:35designated
- 09:36cloud. But so far,
- 09:38we we have been able
- 09:40to,
- 09:41have a local version of
- 09:42it. And lastly, we have
- 09:45new online
- 09:46educational programs. Let me see
- 09:48if it shows here. In
- 09:50which what we did is
- 09:51recordings of, short modules. So
- 09:53if you were interested in
- 09:55a particular
- 09:56aspect of AI and medicine,
- 09:58we we developed a certificate
- 10:00program
- 10:01in which the the it's
- 10:02an online program in which
- 10:05every module is about a
- 10:07topic of interest. We are
- 10:09trying to set up a
- 10:10master's program in medical AI
- 10:13as well. And in many
- 10:15other trainees that I I
- 10:16don't have time here because,
- 10:19I gave sixty seconds to
- 10:21David Coleman this morning, so
- 10:23he has more time
- 10:25to talk to you today.
- 10:27So I'm not sure about
- 10:28the format, if you have
- 10:29any specific questions now or
- 10:31later.
- 10:32I maybe one question or
- 10:34two now.
- 10:37Or
- 10:38it was
- 10:39absolutely clear what what we
- 10:41have. Thank you so much.
- 10:43Thank you.
- 10:51And now we'll have doctor
- 10:52David Coleman, who's the director
- 10:53of YCCI.
- 10:55Let me just get back
- 10:57to yours. There we go.
- 10:59Thanks, Sam. Good morning, everyone.
- 11:02And,
- 11:03I'll join with the many
- 11:04other speakers in welcoming you
- 11:06and
- 11:07and,
- 11:08expressing how excited we are
- 11:10to have the
- 11:11opportunity,
- 11:12for you to join our
- 11:14community and to work with
- 11:15you.
- 11:17My role,
- 11:19here at Yale is to
- 11:20serve as the,
- 11:22current,
- 11:23interim director of the Yale
- 11:24Center for Clinical Investigation, as
- 11:26well as,
- 11:27director of clinical research for,
- 11:30the School of Medicine and
- 11:31Yale New Haven Health System,
- 11:33very recently,
- 11:35implemented,
- 11:36position.
- 11:38So I will give you
- 11:39a very, brief overview of
- 11:41some of the clinical research
- 11:42infrastructure
- 11:43at Yale in the hopes
- 11:45that,
- 11:46you will take advantage of
- 11:48what is a very, very
- 11:49substantial commitment of institutional
- 11:52resources to facilitate,
- 11:54discovery in in patients and
- 11:57humans.
- 11:59So,
- 12:02what I hope to cover
- 12:03is the, brief description of
- 12:05the infrastructure broadly, and then
- 12:08tell you in a little
- 12:09more detail about the Yale
- 12:10Center for Clinical Investigation,
- 12:13and then,
- 12:14describe some of the training
- 12:15options,
- 12:17available,
- 12:18to you as new faculty.
- 12:22So the clinical research,
- 12:24infrastructure
- 12:25at, the school of medicine
- 12:27is really
- 12:28divisible perhaps into three major
- 12:30groups. The first, the Yale
- 12:31Center for Clinical Investigation
- 12:34is the administrative,
- 12:36and intellectual home of the
- 12:38Clinical Translational Science Award,
- 12:40which,
- 12:41has been continuously
- 12:43awarded to,
- 12:45Yale,
- 12:46since the inception of the
- 12:48awards back in, two thousand
- 12:50six.
- 12:52We are a,
- 12:54a university center, that is
- 12:56we serve,
- 12:57all the schools of Yale
- 12:59University,
- 13:00although primarily,
- 13:02our our customers, if you
- 13:03will, are faculty and trainees
- 13:06from the School of Medicine.
- 13:09The Yale Cancer Center is
- 13:11a sister,
- 13:12organization
- 13:13that,
- 13:15is obviously focused on infrastructure
- 13:18and training for support
- 13:20of, cancer related studies. So
- 13:22it's reasonable to think of
- 13:24YCCI
- 13:25as primarily supporting,
- 13:27research and training
- 13:29in non oncology
- 13:31areas
- 13:32and the cancer center,
- 13:33obviously, focused on oncology.
- 13:36And then there have,
- 13:38over the,
- 13:40past fifteen or twenty years,
- 13:42been a number of departmentally
- 13:44based,
- 13:45in some cases, section based,
- 13:48units that provide,
- 13:50elements of clinical research,
- 13:53infrastructure.
- 13:54And I've listed here on
- 13:55this slide some of the
- 13:56departments that had made that,
- 13:59commitment.
- 14:01And so one has a,
- 14:03a variety of different,
- 14:05opportunities to be supported
- 14:07in your, research endeavors and
- 14:10your training,
- 14:12depending on the type of
- 14:13research you do, that is
- 14:14oncology versus non oncology,
- 14:17and the departments that you
- 14:18reside in.
- 14:20Our our center and the
- 14:21cancer centers fully support all
- 14:23of the departments that are
- 14:25on the the the third,
- 14:28bullet here.
- 14:29So it's not it's not
- 14:30that, if you're in cardiology,
- 14:32you can't get help from,
- 14:34either the cancer center or
- 14:36YCCI.
- 14:40So the mission of YCCI,
- 14:43is shown here. I'll go
- 14:45through it very quickly.
- 14:47This center has about two
- 14:48hundred and twenty five
- 14:50staff members.
- 14:52It was established in two
- 14:53thousand five,
- 14:55a precursor to the CTSA,
- 14:59RFA that that came out
- 15:00around that time.
- 15:03So our goals are really
- 15:06to accelerate
- 15:08and and really develop
- 15:10a a culture
- 15:11of,
- 15:12innovation,
- 15:13evaluation,
- 15:14collaboration,
- 15:15and implementation of new treatments,
- 15:19for, human disease.
- 15:22We work very carefully and,
- 15:24I think
- 15:25comprehensively
- 15:26with a number of community
- 15:27partners to co develop
- 15:29and implement,
- 15:31research that is particularly relevant,
- 15:34to improving
- 15:35the health outcomes of the
- 15:37communities served,
- 15:39by Yale New Haven Health
- 15:40System.
- 15:42We are,
- 15:44focusing very heavily on developing
- 15:46new
- 15:47translational research methods under the
- 15:49banner of,
- 15:51what, NIH is describing as
- 15:54translational
- 15:54science. So we are,
- 15:57very focused on supporting,
- 15:59new research methods to develop
- 16:02novel
- 16:03approaches to, clinical investigation.
- 16:07We have a very important
- 16:08training function.
- 16:10Our training programs, which I'll
- 16:12describe briefly,
- 16:14momentarily,
- 16:15are perhaps the most successful,
- 16:18demonstrably successful,
- 16:20elements of, YCCI's,
- 16:23now nearly twenty year history.
- 16:27And then,
- 16:28very recently, we have,
- 16:32been part of the,
- 16:34really invigorated
- 16:36commitment of the school of
- 16:38medicine
- 16:39and Yale New Haven Health
- 16:40System's leadership
- 16:42to really work in,
- 16:44in alignment in ways that
- 16:47that really ultimately benefit the
- 16:49patients that we serve and
- 16:51really promote,
- 16:52a level of,
- 16:54discovery that,
- 16:55extends
- 16:56geographically
- 16:57throughout,
- 16:58Connecticut and all of the
- 16:59areas served by the El
- 17:01Mohave and health system.
- 17:06We have many services that
- 17:08we offer,
- 17:09and I encourage you I'll
- 17:11I'll give you the website
- 17:13URL at the end. But,
- 17:15just to briefly,
- 17:17describe,
- 17:19we we,
- 17:20typically divide our services up
- 17:22into
- 17:23a pre award,
- 17:25or activation phase and then
- 17:28a,
- 17:29post award and study maintenance
- 17:30phase.
- 17:31In the pre award phase,
- 17:33we offer a number of
- 17:34services from,
- 17:36I have an idea,
- 17:39that I need to,
- 17:42refine in the form of
- 17:43a hypothesis
- 17:45and
- 17:45then design a research study
- 17:48to address that hypothesis.
- 17:50We have a number of
- 17:51people with expertise in study
- 17:53design
- 17:54and, the quantitative aspects of
- 17:57of constructing
- 17:58a meaningful clinical research protocol.
- 18:02And then we provide a
- 18:04lot of services related to
- 18:05getting a study,
- 18:08developed
- 18:09and activated,
- 18:11budgeted,
- 18:12and, off the ground.
- 18:14And then following the the
- 18:16the award of a research
- 18:19protocol,
- 18:20we work pretty,
- 18:22carefully,
- 18:24to provide a comprehensive range
- 18:27of services to help execute,
- 18:29the protocol.
- 18:31These range from,
- 18:33individuals to help with the
- 18:35various regulatory
- 18:36components to
- 18:38actual research,
- 18:39assistants,
- 18:41research nurses, research personnel,
- 18:43to,
- 18:44execute the,
- 18:47protocol.
- 18:53Our website
- 18:54is,
- 18:55undergoing very, very substantial revision.
- 18:58I just spent most of
- 18:59the morning,
- 19:00going through, the most recent
- 19:02draft of our website.
- 19:04We are migrating to some
- 19:06new software
- 19:07by mid September.
- 19:09We're going to be using
- 19:10Salesforce to provide a much
- 19:12higher level of timely service
- 19:15to the faculty.
- 19:16But,
- 19:17I just wanted to show
- 19:18you the the snapshot of
- 19:20our our current draft, which
- 19:22will have a,
- 19:24request services
- 19:25now,
- 19:26button,
- 19:27to link to the whole
- 19:29array of services that,
- 19:32YCCI,
- 19:33offers.
- 19:34So one can,
- 19:36really go on and and,
- 19:39select services,
- 19:41on an ad hoc basis
- 19:42or more comprehensive
- 19:44services related,
- 19:46to your,
- 19:47particular needs.
- 19:50And these forms are are
- 19:52all being,
- 19:53modified. So,
- 19:55the key is that, we
- 19:57wanna make it as easy
- 19:58as possible for you to
- 20:00access us, and we want,
- 20:02faculty to be able to
- 20:03come through a single portal,
- 20:05and we work then around
- 20:08that faculty member to provide,
- 20:10the services that are needed.
- 20:14So our, training resources
- 20:16are
- 20:17extremely important, and I urge
- 20:19you to take advantage of
- 20:21them. They range from,
- 20:23salaried positions on a in
- 20:25a, KL two format,
- 20:28to,
- 20:29various,
- 20:31seminars and courses,
- 20:33that can be very helpful
- 20:35to you as you,
- 20:38seek additional training.
- 20:40So in addition to the
- 20:41formal
- 20:42KL two program, which is
- 20:43a one or two year,
- 20:45award, it's,
- 20:47an institutional award through the
- 20:49CTSA.
- 20:51We offer, services and training
- 20:54in grant writing. This is
- 20:55one of our most popular
- 20:57and frankly successful offerings.
- 21:00We have a a program,
- 21:02so called ROCCATs program, which,
- 21:05is a, summer program in,
- 21:07developing collaborative skills and team
- 21:10science,
- 21:11a number of research and
- 21:13progress
- 21:14opportunities
- 21:14and and meetings,
- 21:16with other,
- 21:18trainees and scholars in the
- 21:19program.
- 21:21One of the most
- 21:22demonstrably
- 21:24consistent,
- 21:26sources of value of these
- 21:28training programs, and I I
- 21:29would emphasize this for you
- 21:31as people relatively new to
- 21:34this Yale community or at
- 21:35least, many of you are,
- 21:37Is is this these programs
- 21:39really create,
- 21:42networking
- 21:43and community.
- 21:44And
- 21:45we get,
- 21:47feedback consistently
- 21:49that
- 21:49from the participants
- 21:51say saying we learned a
- 21:52lot of content, but the
- 21:54best part of this was
- 21:55meeting other people
- 21:57who have now become friends
- 21:58and collaborators. So,
- 22:00as you think about your
- 22:02own strategy for integrating and
- 22:04taking advantage of what is
- 22:06a a remarkably
- 22:07talented university
- 22:09community,
- 22:10these training opportunities can be,
- 22:13really,
- 22:14important components of that strategy.
- 22:18We do also provide,
- 22:20assistance
- 22:21for,
- 22:23supplements, particularly diversity supplements.
- 22:26We,
- 22:28the grad school primarily,
- 22:30is the home for the
- 22:31investigative medicine program, which is
- 22:33Yale's version of,
- 22:35a MD to PhD,
- 22:38postgraduate training. It's an extremely
- 22:40successful
- 22:42program that's been around now
- 22:43for,
- 22:45two decades.
- 22:47We,
- 22:48support that with, a number
- 22:49of our faculty and our
- 22:51and our courses,
- 22:52and then we work arm
- 22:53and arm with the office
- 22:55of physician scientists and scientist
- 22:57development,
- 22:59to,
- 23:00provide,
- 23:01training opportunities
- 23:02for,
- 23:04faculty.
- 23:08Some of the the courses
- 23:10that are
- 23:11are offered are shown here.
- 23:12I won't go through all
- 23:13of them, but, simply to,
- 23:16suggest that you query our
- 23:18website,
- 23:19to identify some of these
- 23:21training opportunities because they are,
- 23:24quite valuable and either free
- 23:26or relatively inexpensive.
- 23:32So I will close then
- 23:34by,
- 23:35suggesting
- 23:36that,
- 23:38the university,
- 23:40the school,
- 23:41and the health system have
- 23:42made
- 23:43very substantial,
- 23:44and I would say durable,
- 23:47commitments
- 23:48to supporting high quality,
- 23:51clinical research
- 23:52and, research training.
- 23:55And I I hope,
- 23:57you enjoy the benefits of
- 23:59of those,
- 24:01commitments.
- 24:03Clinical research methods are evolving
- 24:06and,
- 24:07diversifying,
- 24:08and we are,
- 24:10participating
- 24:12in the collective efforts of
- 24:14this community to find new
- 24:16ways to discover,
- 24:17that make our results more
- 24:20generalizable
- 24:21and more impactful
- 24:22in positively,
- 24:24affecting health outcomes.
- 24:28I
- 24:29I wanna join with others
- 24:31in encouraging you,
- 24:33to take advantage of these
- 24:34research and training opportunities,
- 24:37and,
- 24:39to,
- 24:40reach out to me directly
- 24:42if I can help you
- 24:43and,
- 24:44others who are very, very
- 24:46invested in your,
- 24:48success.
- 24:49And then lastly, just to
- 24:51mention that,
- 24:52one of our challenges historically
- 24:54has been
- 24:55that,
- 24:56particularly new faculty, but faculty
- 24:58in general, have often not
- 25:00been as aware of the
- 25:02range of services
- 25:03that are offered.
- 25:05That is on us, and
- 25:07we are working diligently
- 25:08to improve,
- 25:09our outreach and our, web
- 25:12services and, and frankly, our
- 25:13usability,
- 25:15to to,
- 25:16be as helpful as we
- 25:18can be.
- 25:19So I will stop there
- 25:21and,
- 25:23ask for any questions or,
- 25:26comments that anyone has, any
- 25:27ways that
- 25:28I can clarify any of
- 25:30that content.