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Child Study Center Grand Rounds 11.2.2021

November 03, 2021
  • 00:00Welcome.
  • 00:07Thank you very much Doctor Cardona for for
  • 00:10the introduction and for the invitation,
  • 00:13and it's really an honor for me to be here
  • 00:17and to do what people love to do the most,
  • 00:21which is talk about things that
  • 00:23they're very passionate about.
  • 00:25I have no conflicts of interest to declare,
  • 00:28but I do want to declare
  • 00:30that this topic today.
  • 00:31I'm incredibly passionate about.
  • 00:32So if you see me,
  • 00:34if you see my tone of voice go up and down,
  • 00:37UM, so so today I'm going to
  • 00:43let me just sorry this is.
  • 00:48On the screen I'm going to be
  • 00:51talking about really our experience,
  • 00:54and I called this the road that a department.
  • 00:58I'm a pediatrician,
  • 00:59the Department of Pediatrics has taken
  • 01:01in establishing efforts in diversity,
  • 01:04equity and inclusion so so we
  • 01:08have about 15 minutes together.
  • 01:12I'm going to. I was planning on giving
  • 01:15a very brief brief background about.
  • 01:17Me talking about some definitions
  • 01:19and why it matters, why?
  • 01:20Why am I here?
  • 01:21Why do people need to work on DI
  • 01:23and then really spend the majority
  • 01:25of the time talking about all
  • 01:28of these initiatives that we I'm
  • 01:29going to use the we all the time
  • 01:32'cause this is not my work.
  • 01:33This is the work of many individuals
  • 01:36and then talk about sort of the.
  • 01:40Future.
  • 01:44Say.
  • 01:47OK, so. As I think you need very very,
  • 01:51I mean very little introduction.
  • 01:53I'm originally from Puerto Rico.
  • 01:54I'm 53 year old, fully body abled,
  • 02:00cisgender female Latina.
  • 02:04Daughter of Cuban immigrants,
  • 02:06Cuban refugees, and I was born poor,
  • 02:10but raced with privilege and I was
  • 02:12born and raised in Puerto Rico
  • 02:14and the middle of three children.
  • 02:16These pictures here are the only
  • 02:18pictures that exist of me as a child.
  • 02:20All the pictures were for my sister.
  • 02:22Most middle children will tell you that
  • 02:25and I went to Yale is an undergraduate
  • 02:27then went back home for medical school
  • 02:30and have really developed my life here.
  • 02:33These are.
  • 02:34Down here my three children and.
  • 02:37And really what I think I got to
  • 02:41in in in this road in 27 years
  • 02:43here how I got this is swam telling
  • 02:46you who I am and where I'm from,
  • 02:49how I got to diversity,
  • 02:50equity and inclusion was I got to a point
  • 02:53in my life where I was very good at.
  • 02:56Sort of hiding some of my
  • 02:58identities because I spoke research.
  • 03:01You know I could write a grant,
  • 03:02but the more I got into.
  • 03:05What I thought was the yell way.
  • 03:07The more I sort of left,
  • 03:10the rest of me behind and and and and
  • 03:16working in this Hispanic clinic where.
  • 03:19We took all of the difference is
  • 03:22every patient every family was from
  • 03:24a different country and rather than
  • 03:26hiding who they are and where they're
  • 03:28from in this clinic we celebrated.
  • 03:30We talked about how do you put to
  • 03:33sleep a crying baby and Guatemala?
  • 03:36And is it any different from
  • 03:38families from Ecuador?
  • 03:39So so for me that was sort of a
  • 03:42rebirth and it led me to realize
  • 03:45that a lot of this work,
  • 03:47especially my work in the community, was.
  • 03:50DIY without having that that word bear
  • 03:54with me. This is very koci like but.
  • 03:59For people who do their work.
  • 04:04I think three things need to
  • 04:06all come together.
  • 04:09There is the things that you do well,
  • 04:12these are your strengths.
  • 04:14There are the things that
  • 04:16are that I called passions.
  • 04:17These are things that you could
  • 04:19be doing all day long and.
  • 04:22You would never get tired.
  • 04:23You would never look at your
  • 04:24clock and say Oh my God,
  • 04:24it's time to go and then the
  • 04:27third one is things that.
  • 04:29You find value in,
  • 04:30but that the community in which
  • 04:33you live in also finds value,
  • 04:36and when those three things are line,
  • 04:39that's the sweet spot and for me.
  • 04:44This is it, uhm? So.
  • 04:50Why do we care about?
  • 04:52This work is it are we fighting.
  • 04:58Something that exists outside of of our
  • 05:02state outside of sort of the North East.
  • 05:05Very progressive that we live in and
  • 05:10and this is not meant to be a downer,
  • 05:12but racism is alive and well in Connecticut.
  • 05:17Are there racist memes on some
  • 05:20of our elected officials?
  • 05:22Just in October,
  • 05:24a year ago?
  • 05:26This representative was interrupted
  • 05:28and all these memes with the N
  • 05:31word just kept looping and looping
  • 05:33and looping around some of them
  • 05:35saying shut up and word go.
  • 05:38Pick your cotton and today is
  • 05:40November the second I hope all
  • 05:42of you went to vote and this
  • 05:44vote is very important because I
  • 05:45think even more important in my
  • 05:47town in the town where my three
  • 05:49children go to school because a
  • 05:52campaign manager for the Guilford
  • 05:54Republican School Board candidates.
  • 05:57Just said this helping kids of
  • 05:59color to feel they belong has
  • 06:01a negative effect on white,
  • 06:03Christian or conservative kids and
  • 06:05she said this in the middle of a
  • 06:08educational forum at UConn and.
  • 06:14These are things that we
  • 06:15should all care about.
  • 06:17It doesn't matter if your doesn't
  • 06:19matter where you're from or anything.
  • 06:22If you really care and think that
  • 06:25diversity is worthwhile, then.
  • 06:29I went and I voted at 6:00 AM.
  • 06:31I think I was probably the first
  • 06:33one of the first ones in line in
  • 06:35terms of LGBT Q rights, just.
  • 06:38Few weeks ago a man.
  • 06:41Attack was attacked because of his
  • 06:46sexual orientation and in terms of
  • 06:49religious intolerance, you know.
  • 06:51The last one on this slide,
  • 06:53I can say 'cause it it happens to
  • 06:55me and it continues to happen.
  • 06:57I wrote an article very early
  • 06:59on in the pandemic.
  • 07:00I'm an infectious disease specialist,
  • 07:02so I said it's not right to call this virus.
  • 07:05The Chinese virus and that was in.
  • 07:12I think the article came out in
  • 07:15April or May of 2020. To this day,
  • 07:18every week I get threatening emails.
  • 07:20I get emails saying,
  • 07:21I hope you, your parents,
  • 07:23and your children all get COVID.
  • 07:25I hope you die. I hope you suffer.
  • 07:28So, so I think by now I've
  • 07:30convinced you that this is.
  • 07:32This is everywhere.
  • 07:33Race is a social construct and and
  • 07:36hopefully every single person on this soon.
  • 07:39Every member of your department
  • 07:41should know that and and the
  • 07:44idea that race has a biologic.
  • 07:47Background was completely debunked
  • 07:49with the Genome project so,
  • 07:52so this is something we created really
  • 07:54to ensure that the privileges and
  • 07:57resources are not equally distributed and
  • 08:00I said infectious disease specialists.
  • 08:02I can tell you this is incredibly
  • 08:05transmissible from generation to generation.
  • 08:07Very early in my career I went to a
  • 08:11talk where this very young man said,
  • 08:14well, many people will say you know now.
  • 08:17There's racism.
  • 08:18There's reverse racism against members who
  • 08:22belong to majority groups and and he said no,
  • 08:26that's prejudice when you're
  • 08:28prejudice against somebody,
  • 08:29you're assuming something about
  • 08:32them based on stereotypes.
  • 08:35But when you connect prejudice with power,
  • 08:38that's racism.
  • 08:41So it's really.
  • 08:42It's not just saying well I'm
  • 08:43being prejudice against you,
  • 08:45but it's but it's exerting that by
  • 08:48the group by the group in power
  • 08:51and and then just these will be the
  • 08:53last of my definitions diversity.
  • 08:55It focuses on our differences.
  • 08:58Equity is equal opportunity for all,
  • 09:00so there's a difference between
  • 09:02equity and equality.
  • 09:03Equality assumes that everybody
  • 09:05starts from the same place,
  • 09:08and that's not really it.
  • 09:12Equity is when we all get to the same place,
  • 09:15understanding that not all of us had
  • 09:18the same privileges or had the same
  • 09:22experiences and feeling included,
  • 09:23which I think is very important,
  • 09:25and these are definitions that
  • 09:27are really at the core.
  • 09:28Of the work that we have done in Pediatrics,
  • 09:32feeling included is that deliberate
  • 09:34act of welcoming the diversity
  • 09:36and creating an environment where
  • 09:38we can grow and succeed.
  • 09:39So it's it's getting a ticket to the dance,
  • 09:42but being able to dance,
  • 09:43having a seat at the table, and justice,
  • 09:46really fixing that that system.
  • 09:49Uhm, why does it matter?
  • 09:51Well,
  • 09:52it matters because it affects all of us.
  • 09:54It again, it's universal.
  • 09:56It matters to your patience because
  • 09:59it has pervasive negative effects.
  • 10:01And many of these landmark
  • 10:03papers come from this group.
  • 10:06It matters to those who
  • 10:08you work with because.
  • 10:10If you accept all of us for who we are,
  • 10:13then you you sort of generate
  • 10:15that empathy that concerned that
  • 10:17compassion it matters in the way we
  • 10:20learn by now as doctor Cardona said,
  • 10:22I worked with medical students
  • 10:26and realize how.
  • 10:281800s is where some of the things
  • 10:31that we teach our our trainees.
  • 10:34So in medicine, it's really how we learn,
  • 10:37how we diagnose and and rather
  • 10:39than focusing on those social
  • 10:41conditions on preventing the
  • 10:43social conditions that lead to
  • 10:46racial disparities,
  • 10:47we focus on on reinforcing
  • 10:50those biological underpinnings,
  • 10:52thinking that the only individuals who
  • 10:55can get who can have sickle cell disease
  • 10:58or are black are many other diseases.
  • 11:03Uhm, implicit bias is associated
  • 11:07with worse health outcomes.
  • 11:09This was a study that is actually
  • 11:12fairly recent that showed that.
  • 11:14Black Babies cared for by white
  • 11:17care providers had higher mortality
  • 11:19than black babies who are cared
  • 11:22for by physicians of color.
  • 11:25And if she's probably in the audience,
  • 11:29one of your own,
  • 11:30and one of our own 'cause she was
  • 11:32in Pediatrics and she will always
  • 11:33be part of our department doctor,
  • 11:35Amanda Calhoun and others.
  • 11:38Published this paper to show that in
  • 11:41our emergency room right here at Yale,
  • 11:45the use of physical restraints in the
  • 11:48emergency room is different depending
  • 11:50on the color of your of your skin.
  • 11:53So now let me talk about
  • 11:55sort of my department.
  • 11:57Started this journey in the fall,
  • 12:00probably September,
  • 12:02October of 2018,
  • 12:05and in the beginning I did what
  • 12:09most people would would do.
  • 12:11It sort of be very qualitative,
  • 12:13very exploratory,
  • 12:13and I went and I spoke to lots of
  • 12:17people to try to listen in and
  • 12:20figure out well what's my agenda.
  • 12:22My agenda needs to come from my
  • 12:24constituents and microaggression,
  • 12:26which is really I don't like to call it.
  • 12:27Progression I like to call
  • 12:29it failed aggression,
  • 12:30so I think there's nothing
  • 12:31micro about microaggression.
  • 12:33There are these comments or behaviors
  • 12:36that are insulting and degrading
  • 12:39but but there's sort of on the flag.
  • 12:41People say,
  • 12:42well,
  • 12:43they're not conscious and you
  • 12:45do them because you've seen
  • 12:46so many other people do it.
  • 12:48So this was one of the one
  • 12:51of the first targets.
  • 12:53How we started sort of our role,
  • 12:56which I'll walk you through.
  • 12:58As I mentioned,
  • 12:59it's started in the fall of 2018,
  • 13:02so we're going on our third year starts
  • 13:05with tremendous allyship and and I have to.
  • 13:09I put the picture there of our chairman.
  • 13:13Cliff bold because he continues to
  • 13:17be not the person who says yes and
  • 13:20who makes the decision necessarily,
  • 13:22but also a partner and an active participant.
  • 13:26So so really.
  • 13:27The support and the Allied ship within
  • 13:30our department leadership is amazing.
  • 13:32I can't say often enough this
  • 13:35is a team effort.
  • 13:37It was a team effort within
  • 13:39my department reaching out to
  • 13:41medical school leadership.
  • 13:42I reached out to hospital leadership
  • 13:44'cause our trainees work in the hospital.
  • 13:46Community leaders who.
  • 13:47Come and give lectures to our
  • 13:50trainees and even outside of
  • 13:52the Yale School of Medicine.
  • 13:54You know what I called phone or friend?
  • 13:56Those mentors who you can reach
  • 13:58out to for advice.
  • 13:59Defining the umbrella is very
  • 14:01important and I was told in the
  • 14:04beginning that my umbrella was too
  • 14:06big and that that I would probably be
  • 14:09setting our initiatives up for failure.
  • 14:13I think the truth was sort of in between.
  • 14:17Yes,
  • 14:17it was.
  • 14:18It was very ambitious to include all
  • 14:21of the groups, but I think it was the right
  • 14:23thing and I would do it again and the the.
  • 14:25The downside to that is that most
  • 14:28of what we've done has focused on
  • 14:30our trainees and some of our own,
  • 14:32our faculty and the staff really were the
  • 14:36group that even though they're included,
  • 14:39has not received as much attention.
  • 14:41But as I talk about our agenda moving.
  • 14:44Moving forward, the other very important
  • 14:45thing is how do you define diversity?
  • 14:47Who are your constituents?
  • 14:50And this definition keeps sad bad.
  • 14:53Keep getting bigger and bigger and
  • 14:55bigger and bigger because her city is
  • 14:58more than just ethnicity and gender.
  • 15:00And the important thing is just
  • 15:02saying we're diverse is not enough
  • 15:04that the work is what's important.
  • 15:07You know.
  • 15:07Again, I'm presenting the work of many.
  • 15:10This is ongoing by no way shape or form.
  • 15:13Please do not take this as oh
  • 15:16Pediatrics has it together,
  • 15:18but it's but it's modeled for
  • 15:21me at least after.
  • 15:24Those who sort of paved the way
  • 15:26for us and and collaborations
  • 15:29and partnerships are incredibly,
  • 15:31incredibly important.
  • 15:31And it's, you know, it's it's really great.
  • 15:34But I can say that I work collaborative.
  • 15:38That's a word that is hard for me to
  • 15:40say in English, that I collaborate,
  • 15:42and then I work together with with your DI.
  • 15:45With your Chief Diversity Officer Tara.
  • 15:49So in Pediatrics we see the work of D.
  • 15:52IS3 pillars and these three pillars.
  • 15:54Are incredibly important.
  • 15:55They all happen at the same time,
  • 15:58but I gave them numbers because I
  • 16:01think the order is very important.
  • 16:03Support, education and recruitment
  • 16:05and my talk today is going to.
  • 16:08Follow that that organization
  • 16:11supporters pillar number one why you
  • 16:15cannot achieve any of the other goals.
  • 16:19If, first and foremost,
  • 16:21you do not support existing diversity.
  • 16:23If your existing diversity do
  • 16:25not feel supported, engaged,
  • 16:27like they belong,
  • 16:28and that the climate is good,
  • 16:30you will never be able to further diversify
  • 16:32and bring in and bring in more faculty.
  • 16:35It just kind of makes sense.
  • 16:37And we did this.
  • 16:39Through engaging in conversations,
  • 16:40making it a two way St.
  • 16:43I say.
  • 16:44Teach me,
  • 16:45teach me I don't know more than I say, OK,
  • 16:49I know this let me tell you this because.
  • 16:52The more I live in this field,
  • 16:54the more I learn from others experiences
  • 16:58the the more inclusive I will be.
  • 17:02So I say all the time I don't understand.
  • 17:04Please teach me requesting feedback
  • 17:07and saying I'm sorry because.
  • 17:09I make mistakes.
  • 17:11I commit microaggressions,
  • 17:12I've said and I to this day
  • 17:15I say things that matter.
  • 17:17Micro aggressions that are horrible.
  • 17:20It's what you do when when you've
  • 17:23made those mistakes and and and
  • 17:25you're learning after afterwards.
  • 17:30I spend time with the trainees a lot a lot,
  • 17:32a lot of time with the trainees.
  • 17:35Actually the first year I I think I
  • 17:37think I just devoted to trainees.
  • 17:41Organize organizing and also leading
  • 17:44exit interviews so that we know.
  • 17:47We know what the views are
  • 17:49of the people who are here,
  • 17:50but sometimes when people leave
  • 17:52they have lots of things to say,
  • 17:54and mentorship and sponsorship
  • 17:56which are not the same.
  • 18:01Along with going around and
  • 18:02talking to people, the first,
  • 18:03the second thing that I did is I went
  • 18:06to my chairman and I said we must edit
  • 18:08the mission statement and he said
  • 18:10OK 'cause there were words that we
  • 18:14needed to have not have a diversity
  • 18:16statement but I feel very strongly
  • 18:19that there should be one statement.
  • 18:22That DI work is not an accessory.
  • 18:24DIY work is.
  • 18:25I'm going to keep going the wrong way.
  • 18:28Sorry that the work needs to be integral,
  • 18:31just like a faculty meeting just like.
  • 18:37Just some of the common
  • 18:39things that that that you do.
  • 18:42This slide is probably the most
  • 18:44important one because they're
  • 18:45the ones doing the heavy lifting.
  • 18:47Creating council.
  • 18:48One person cannot do this alone,
  • 18:51so building that team and bringing
  • 18:54them and getting them engaged
  • 18:56and we started our original
  • 18:58team was just two individuals,
  • 19:00and now it just keeps growing
  • 19:02and growing and they go with it.
  • 19:04I support them, I mentor them,
  • 19:06I sponsor them.
  • 19:07We work together,
  • 19:08I sponsor their their activities
  • 19:10but every single week every single
  • 19:13week there is a diversity event
  • 19:16of some sort in in the in the
  • 19:20department and it's really by these.
  • 19:22Champions who are not only
  • 19:25working in diversity,
  • 19:27but they're developing expertise and
  • 19:30leadership in in there in their careers.
  • 19:33We also developed a Faculty
  • 19:37Diversity Council and it exists.
  • 19:40It keeps expanding.
  • 19:41Its multidisciplinary but.
  • 19:42But this is very much on my strategic
  • 19:46plan for next year because it has.
  • 19:49I haven't.
  • 19:50It hasn't been developed as
  • 19:52well as it as it should be.
  • 19:54The new thing is remember I talked
  • 19:57about staff and and I always felt
  • 19:59that because I didn't think that
  • 20:01we were doing enough with staff.
  • 20:03Well now I can say we have a yellow
  • 20:06Pediatrics diversity Staff Council.
  • 20:08Sorry the word diversity was missing from
  • 20:11there and I think it's probably the first,
  • 20:14if not the only one.
  • 20:15So this will span administrative
  • 20:19assistance business managers,
  • 20:21mid level providers and just
  • 20:23like with the other groups.
  • 20:25We will engage their constituents
  • 20:29and come and develop activities.
  • 20:31So so really the the support part.
  • 20:35I think I've mentioned many of these things.
  • 20:37It needs to be interdisciplinary.
  • 20:39I'm very much and I learned that
  • 20:41by by working in global medicine I
  • 20:44want everything to be bidirectional.
  • 20:46It can't just be good for one person
  • 20:48and not and not for the other.
  • 20:50And I can't emphasize enough forging
  • 20:53collaborations not only in your department.
  • 20:56But collaborating and and now we
  • 20:59have an amazing group of diversity
  • 21:01champions that we need monthly.
  • 21:08The work is not just teaching things,
  • 21:11but sometimes sending sending a message an.
  • 21:15Last year one of the trainees
  • 21:17came up to me and said, you know,
  • 21:20there's this. This movement,
  • 21:21called white coats for black lives and
  • 21:24we put it together literally overnight
  • 21:27and it was very well attended since then.
  • 21:30I think there were about three or four
  • 21:33other marches that we put together,
  • 21:35but you know, activism is part.
  • 21:37I think it's part and should be part
  • 21:40of what of the makings of a department
  • 21:43that really wants to send that
  • 21:45message that you know what this is.
  • 21:47This is what we stand for,
  • 21:48and if we have to, you know,
  • 21:50stop what we're doing and go to a March and.
  • 21:52Support it,
  • 21:53and even on the weekends,
  • 21:54we'll we'll do that.
  • 21:55Putting out fires is a lot of what what
  • 21:58I do that those one on one conversations
  • 22:01being available 24/7 whenever anybody
  • 22:04needs to sit to sit down and and talk.
  • 22:09And and for people to do that,
  • 22:10they need to trust you and and you
  • 22:12need to say it over and over and over
  • 22:15and over again because the experience
  • 22:17for underrepresented minorities in
  • 22:18medicine is when something happens.
  • 22:21You shut up and you keep doing what
  • 22:23you're doing and you don't tell anybody.
  • 22:25So when somebody says,
  • 22:26you know what if if there's if if
  • 22:28you ever need to speak to someone
  • 22:30who can speak with me, I think you,
  • 22:32in my experience,
  • 22:32you need to say it 20 times before
  • 22:35they get the message that indeed,
  • 22:38you you mean what? What you say?
  • 22:40And it's not just me.
  • 22:41Any of the members of the leadership
  • 22:43have taken, taken that that rule.
  • 22:50Uhm, accountability is very important and
  • 22:53and this reparative model is something
  • 22:57that I would love to continue to work on.
  • 23:01We use a model that's very very simple here,
  • 23:05and this slide Terra davilla gave me.
  • 23:10You guys are way ahead of the curve in this.
  • 23:13Then we are. You're you're actually
  • 23:16engaging in restorative justice practices
  • 23:19and and this is really where we would like
  • 23:22to go so that when there is conflict,
  • 23:25I'm not just solving it and in a way that
  • 23:28my background and experience tells me too,
  • 23:31but that it is systematic.
  • 23:33So and obviously this has many of the other.
  • 23:39Key strategies and and and and
  • 23:43work that that you guys said.
  • 23:45The Yale Child Study Center are engaging in.
  • 23:48Uhm? Advocacy is important.
  • 23:52The my residents came up to few of
  • 23:56our faculty and said, you know what?
  • 23:58You'll know.
  • 23:58Haven Hospital does not have an
  • 24:01anti racism statement.
  • 24:02They don't and our patients come in and
  • 24:04and how are they going to feel welcome?
  • 24:06Most hospitals have anti racism
  • 24:09statement now our hospital does and
  • 24:12this stemmed from a small group of.
  • 24:16Incredibly committed residents who
  • 24:18got the statement now if you go
  • 24:21to the hospital you will see this.
  • 24:23You will see this posted all over and it
  • 24:26gives them it's leadership development.
  • 24:29For for them it shows them what
  • 24:32advocacy can do and it gives them
  • 24:35what an incredible jolt of energy
  • 24:37and pride when they see this type.
  • 24:40Very proud.
  • 24:41Every time I see this it took us
  • 24:43about a year to get it through
  • 24:45leadership but but it did.
  • 24:47Uhm?
  • 24:48This to me that this the second killer
  • 24:51in our in our department is education
  • 24:53and if you if you were to ask me what
  • 24:56two people outside what defines RDI efforts,
  • 25:01it's really it's really education.
  • 25:03I think the education should be universal.
  • 25:06I think it should emphasize the values
  • 25:09and it should be mandatory so that
  • 25:11that word is kind of hard to swallow,
  • 25:14but.
  • 25:16How we got this is when I started
  • 25:19having events one person showed up.
  • 25:22Two people showed up and it just
  • 25:23kept going and I kept having them
  • 25:25and then one day I went up to my
  • 25:27chairman and I said look I work on on
  • 25:29vaccines as Amy in the audience knows.
  • 25:33We worked together on studies
  • 25:35of vaccines 1000 years ago.
  • 25:39This is going to be like flu vaccine.
  • 25:41Few years ago,
  • 25:42we know that nobody should take care
  • 25:44of patients who was not vaccinated.
  • 25:46But did hospitals say to come to the
  • 25:48hospital? You need to be vaccinated.
  • 25:49No, now it is.
  • 25:51It's mandatory and people don't question it.
  • 25:55Of course,
  • 25:55COVID kind of tripped the whole
  • 25:59vaccine mandate,
  • 26:00but to me this is second nature.
  • 26:03Nobody should be working in the in
  • 26:06this institution or taking care of
  • 26:09patients who does not have the basics.
  • 26:12Now you might say 'cause you
  • 26:13guys are all very smart.
  • 26:15Well,
  • 26:15you know the data on DI training and and
  • 26:17the data are conflicting.
  • 26:19Some people there are studies to show
  • 26:21that if you train individuals and then
  • 26:23you test them six months later that
  • 26:26what you learn you forget and that
  • 26:28it actually doesn't change behavior.
  • 26:32And their data to support that it does.
  • 26:36In a way I'm I'm getting at
  • 26:38that from a different angle.
  • 26:40We are not saying the only thing
  • 26:42that we're going to do in terms of
  • 26:44education is have people sit down
  • 26:46and undergo microaggression training,
  • 26:48unconscious bias training and
  • 26:50anti racism training.
  • 26:51To me that's the language.
  • 26:53If you speak Russian and I speak Spanish,
  • 26:56it's going to be more difficult
  • 26:59for us to communicate.
  • 27:01For me,
  • 27:01the training component and the
  • 27:03reason why I thought mandatory would
  • 27:05be good is it makes people have those
  • 27:08definitions that I shared with you
  • 27:11quickly and these quick trainings.
  • 27:14Bring these concepts.
  • 27:15These are going to be your building blocks.
  • 27:17So then when we sit down with the 1001
  • 27:21other events that are interactive,
  • 27:25then you can start having the
  • 27:28difficult conversations.
  • 27:31So. Very much the education
  • 27:34needs to be universal so.
  • 27:37This I keep going the wrong way, uhm?
  • 27:42This is how we've shaped it every year,
  • 27:46trainees, faculty, leadership staff.
  • 27:48Have to every two years they have
  • 27:52to complete one hour course.
  • 27:55It's actually an hour and a half on
  • 27:57micro aggression and we use the Ouch.
  • 27:59That stereotype hurts training
  • 28:01through Yellow Haven Hospital.
  • 28:04They undergo an hour,
  • 28:05an hour and a half on unconscious
  • 28:08bias and an anti racism seminar we.
  • 28:13These are about four hours.
  • 28:14There are many out there.
  • 28:16I don't care how long it is as long
  • 28:18as people take that and then to that.
  • 28:21We include a menu and this
  • 28:23people have to do every year,
  • 28:25so this is every two years
  • 28:27and every year they should.
  • 28:28And and it's so flexible.
  • 28:31But you know you see what it
  • 28:32says here outside the department.
  • 28:34I want to increase this list so if
  • 28:38Doctor Martin goes online and finds
  • 28:42this amazing course and he takes it.
  • 28:46Wonderful,
  • 28:47he will get credit for that.
  • 28:48I just want him to tell me which
  • 28:50one it is so I can add it to to
  • 28:52the to the list so so we're not
  • 28:54being too prescriptive and again,
  • 28:57what we're trying to get at is
  • 29:01is really taking seeing these as
  • 29:03meaningful first steps so that
  • 29:05people gain the basic knowledge.
  • 29:07The building blocks that then can sort
  • 29:10of lead some of us to go on our on our own.
  • 29:15Their own journey.
  • 29:18But we do call it mandatory.
  • 29:21In addition to that we have something
  • 29:23called HealthEquity rounds,
  • 29:24which we didn't developed.
  • 29:25It was developed at Boston City Hospital by
  • 29:28residents and and this is formal training.
  • 29:31We're just adopting their methodology
  • 29:33and they are in our case not small.
  • 29:36Group case based discussions.
  • 29:38We have it during grand
  • 29:40rounds with debriefings.
  • 29:42And and it's it's it's.
  • 29:46It's a time when everybody is there.
  • 29:48Nobody can say no I didn't go to it
  • 29:50because everybody goes to to grand rounds.
  • 29:52We have town halls.
  • 29:55When there are no serious events.
  • 29:59It's the office of the AI who brings
  • 30:02people together and and create safe space.
  • 30:05A lot of it is one on one conversation,
  • 30:08some of it is group conversations.
  • 30:12Non conference journal clubs a lot.
  • 30:16HealthEquity rounds is LED II tend
  • 30:19to now be more on the background and
  • 30:22have the residents and the fellows
  • 30:24who are joining the faculty and who
  • 30:27are developing their leadership
  • 30:28to to really take this and and
  • 30:31elevate it to the to the next level.
  • 30:33So really in the in the HealthEquity rounds.
  • 30:36Our leaders are.
  • 30:39Members of our faculty,
  • 30:41fellows,
  • 30:42and these are the objectives of
  • 30:44the HealthEquity rounds.
  • 30:45It basically takes a case that we
  • 30:47discuss and then the you know,
  • 30:49the the people in the audience
  • 30:51give their their input.
  • 30:53We do this now electronically
  • 30:56through poll everywhere,
  • 30:57and you have a review of the literature,
  • 31:00so it's not just what we think,
  • 31:02but it's actually based on data,
  • 31:05and it's meant to help us recognize
  • 31:08and mitigate personally held implicit.
  • 31:10IFC's it encourages strategies to
  • 31:12combat structural racism at the
  • 31:14institutional level and reduce the
  • 31:16impact of implicit bias on patient care
  • 31:19and interprofessional relationships.
  • 31:21This was the one from.
  • 31:23Today is.
  • 31:26Tuesday last Wednesday we had this one
  • 31:29and it's called I'm not just the trash
  • 31:33lady amplifying inclusion stories.
  • 31:34We developed Bay Dr.
  • 31:37Darnell Banks,
  • 31:38pediatric GI Fellow and Jessica Malcolm.
  • 31:41One of our residents who will
  • 31:43move on to be chief resident.
  • 31:45This was a real case.
  • 31:47And the entire hour was surrounding
  • 31:50an encounter between doctors.
  • 31:52So we're so knock on the door.
  • 31:54And the doctors are rounding with
  • 31:55the patient, and the attending goes.
  • 31:57Go see who that is,
  • 31:59and the resident goes opened the doors,
  • 32:01close the door and goes, oh, it's nobody.
  • 32:03It's just the cleaning lady.
  • 32:04That stayed in the minds of our trainees,
  • 32:07that.
  • 32:10Anything can be an educational and
  • 32:12teaching and a teaching opportunity.
  • 32:15Plus, you know, and I put this up
  • 32:18because this is this is data in
  • 32:212000 and 1920% decreases in this.
  • 32:24Very serious intestinal infection
  • 32:26compared to the year before and and
  • 32:29according to one of the leaders,
  • 32:31had the quality and safety.
  • 32:34This improvement was the result of
  • 32:35a team effort and they recognized
  • 32:37the tremendous work that frontline
  • 32:40Environmental Service Associates and
  • 32:42their management played in particular so.
  • 32:44The goal of the grand rounds is the
  • 32:46medical team includes everybody and
  • 32:48everybody must be treated with respect.
  • 32:51The same two amazing leaders.
  • 32:55Put together this series that
  • 32:57not only is in Pediatrics,
  • 32:59but we're actually bringing
  • 33:00this to other departments and I
  • 33:02call this the M&M of diversity,
  • 33:04morbidity and mortality.
  • 33:05We take things ripped from the headlines and.
  • 33:12Real encounters, and in a short not
  • 33:15run rounds, but in a much shorter time.
  • 33:19We sit down and discuss it and it's not easy.
  • 33:22It's these are very difficult
  • 33:25conversations because people recognize
  • 33:27they might not recognize the exact case.
  • 33:30But there are things that that happened.
  • 33:32And really the goal is for us to
  • 33:35own our mistakes to keep saying.
  • 33:39I do that, I'm I'm the first one.
  • 33:41I recognized it and and how do I?
  • 33:43How do I make it better?
  • 33:45A fool learns only from his own mistakes.
  • 33:47A wise man learns from the mistakes
  • 33:50of others. How am I doing in time?
  • 33:58I mentioned the anti racism seminar,
  • 34:01which I'll skip through but.
  • 34:05It's interesting to see and by no
  • 34:07means am I saying that this is.
  • 34:10Hard data, but when we when you
  • 34:12start an anti racism seminar and
  • 34:15you ask people where in this
  • 34:17spectrum from towards becoming anti
  • 34:20racist are you in that fear zone?
  • 34:23When when somebody talks about race
  • 34:24you you look to the other side or
  • 34:27you're kind of in the learning zone
  • 34:29or in your growth when we when we do
  • 34:31this seminar and we we ask people to
  • 34:34to place themselves on this where they
  • 34:37are in this growth or developmental stage.
  • 34:41The numbers seem to sort of flip that
  • 34:45give individuals the a little bit of
  • 34:48the background and data behind it,
  • 34:51and conversations and it hopefully
  • 34:53achieves moving individuals in
  • 34:55the in the right direction.
  • 34:58One of our trainees, suneeta force on there.
  • 35:02She said I'm done with being
  • 35:04called by a different name.
  • 35:06And what do you think it always happens
  • 35:08to people who are the same the same race.
  • 35:11She wrote this beautiful article.
  • 35:14Called what's in a name
  • 35:16targeting Microaggression?
  • 35:17I want to spend a few minutes
  • 35:19because I think this is to me.
  • 35:21It's one of the.
  • 35:24Uhm?
  • 35:25One of the the the.
  • 35:28The strategies that was developed that
  • 35:33has made one of the biggest impacts
  • 35:37receiving and managing concerns from
  • 35:38Members in the Department of Pediatrics.
  • 35:40So when something wrong happens,
  • 35:42what are the members of your department?
  • 35:44Do who do they call?
  • 35:45What happens when they call?
  • 35:47What happens afterwards?
  • 35:48So we knew that we needed to be
  • 35:51available 24/7 that we need to
  • 35:54encourage reporting that the process
  • 35:56needs to be standardized that.
  • 35:58We need to include follow up
  • 35:59because I don't know about you,
  • 36:01but if you ever send an email to someone
  • 36:03and that person never responds to you,
  • 36:05especially if you were pretty
  • 36:06upset and you're sending an
  • 36:08email saying this was wrong,
  • 36:09please help me and nobody
  • 36:11ever gets back to you.
  • 36:12You feel very discouraged and you don't.
  • 36:14You don't do it again.
  • 36:16You need to support and you need
  • 36:19to destigmatize the reporting so
  • 36:22Adam Berkwits Chanel card developed
  • 36:24this pathway that we continue
  • 36:27to work on and this is online.
  • 36:30This is on the hospital website available.
  • 36:33It doesn't matter which where
  • 36:35you are in the world.
  • 36:37So just like we include the pathway for
  • 36:40what to do with a patient who has COVID,
  • 36:43there is a pathway for mistreatment
  • 36:47and discrimination. It's very easy.
  • 36:50We include all commerce that mistreatment
  • 36:53discrimination could be against
  • 36:54anything and maybe I'm obsessed with
  • 36:57the three so I have three children.
  • 36:59I was one of three children,
  • 37:01three pillars, but for us reporting
  • 37:04an incident has three steps.
  • 37:07You file a report 'cause we
  • 37:09can't fix what we don't know.
  • 37:11You call someone,
  • 37:12you pick up the phone and you call
  • 37:14someone or you go and you talk to
  • 37:16somebody in person or you text them.
  • 37:18Why? Well the report is not
  • 37:21going to give you advice.
  • 37:23The report is not going to tell you how to
  • 37:26handle the micro aggression in the future,
  • 37:28and they're not going to give you support.
  • 37:30So file a report, disclose it to anybody,
  • 37:34don't don't keep it inside.
  • 37:37And then follow up that follow up piece.
  • 37:41That's very important.
  • 37:42So this just goes through
  • 37:44steps of what you do.
  • 37:45The reporting system is exactly the
  • 37:47same as if you were reporting an error
  • 37:50in terms of a dose of a medication.
  • 37:53People can report anonymously or they
  • 37:55can report putting in their their names.
  • 37:57I try to encourage people to not bully,
  • 38:01but encourage individuals
  • 38:03to feel comfortable.
  • 38:04You can only do that if you.
  • 38:07Start saying that that a negative effect
  • 38:12after reporting is not going to happen,
  • 38:14and and when you're not
  • 38:16very clear about that,
  • 38:17then individuals don't report
  • 38:19because they they fear that
  • 38:21then they're going to be.
  • 38:22They're going to be targeted.
  • 38:26So in it we have sources for support.
  • 38:29All of the telephone numbers are there
  • 38:32depending whether it's a nurse. It's a.
  • 38:34It's a member of the of the staff.
  • 38:36It's very foolproof,
  • 38:38and in the case that you disclose
  • 38:42to somebody who is not in the eye,
  • 38:44they have no clue of what to do with
  • 38:47with the load that you've put on them.
  • 38:51Then for the person receiving the incident,
  • 38:54we've made it very easy.
  • 38:55Here this is who you need to call and
  • 38:58we have a list of all the people you
  • 39:02know depending on whether it says after
  • 39:04trainee etc and and next steps as well.
  • 39:08So what what does the person receiving
  • 39:10the the report do with this report?
  • 39:13Who do who do report to reach out to?
  • 39:16It's trying to make the difficult.
  • 39:19Easier.
  • 39:22And it even gives them
  • 39:25potential like strategies.
  • 39:26You know what? What, what to do.
  • 39:29So we wanted to develop and
  • 39:31did this reporting system
  • 39:32that is multidisciplinary.
  • 39:36This these were the to Do's a while ago
  • 39:39one was improved reporting for patients
  • 39:41and families and I'm happy to report that
  • 39:44the statement by Young Haven Hospital.
  • 39:46That anti racist statement at the bottom
  • 39:49has a one of those things that you can
  • 39:52scan and it links to a reporting system.
  • 39:55So now if you are a patient the mom of
  • 39:58a child and you come in and something
  • 40:01that you feel you were wronged
  • 40:03in any way you look at the wall.
  • 40:06You'll see for those who are admitted
  • 40:08this the anti racist statement is in
  • 40:10their packages and by scanning that and
  • 40:12there's a telephone number they can
  • 40:14call and they can report the incident.
  • 40:21The last part is recruitment,
  • 40:24and to me the only thing that I'll
  • 40:26say is recruitment is a verb.
  • 40:27It takes action.
  • 40:29It absolutely takes action.
  • 40:32It takes muscle.
  • 40:33You need to go outside of your walls.
  • 40:36You need to go.
  • 40:37You need to talk to where the candidates
  • 40:40who are not coming to my institution.
  • 40:42You need to have very strong collaboration
  • 40:44with training program directors.
  • 40:46We are intentional.
  • 40:47We don't hide the fact that we want great.
  • 40:54So that we want to recruit Members
  • 40:56who are who come from groups who are
  • 41:00underrepresented in navicent were were
  • 41:02very obvious in that having electives,
  • 41:06minority visiting electives paid.
  • 41:10During COVID we had one that was online,
  • 41:13'cause we you know they couldn't come here
  • 41:15outreach the majority of the outreach I used
  • 41:17to do it when I was when I was younger.
  • 41:19Now the residents go out.
  • 41:21We're now looking at connect
  • 41:24connecting with the boys and Girls
  • 41:26Club just around the corner.
  • 41:28They go to schools, they attend health fairs.
  • 41:32They go read.
  • 41:35We're working on a pipeline research
  • 41:37program to bring students from medical
  • 41:40schools that are historically black
  • 41:42and Hispanic serving institutions and
  • 41:44bring them to yield for a summer,
  • 41:47to do research.
  • 41:49And there are some some faculty.
  • 41:52I think it's in Department of
  • 41:54Psychiatry who who participated
  • 41:56in in a program last year for for
  • 41:58the for the medical school.
  • 42:05Success is, well, this is not my success.
  • 42:08This is so probably the the collaborative
  • 42:11success of the residency leadership.
  • 42:14Our incoming class this year for the interns
  • 42:18is over 50% underrepresented in medicine.
  • 42:21And yes, we deserve an applause because
  • 42:23for the first 100 years in the art
  • 42:26department turned 100 this year and this
  • 42:28is the first time where the minority
  • 42:30is the majority and and and that.
  • 42:34Doesn't happen immediately.
  • 42:36I didn't do this, not even the last three
  • 42:39years of the I work have done this.
  • 42:41This is, this takes time.
  • 42:44And and commitment.
  • 42:46But it, but it really,
  • 42:48it brings in energy.
  • 42:50And then the last thing 'cause I want
  • 42:52to leave some time for question is have
  • 42:55a have a plan, have a yearly focus.
  • 42:57These are three pillars.
  • 42:59This is what we believe in.
  • 43:00But every year we work on
  • 43:03something slightly different.
  • 43:04Last year it was really very much
  • 43:07about accountability and so so a lot
  • 43:10of focus was on the reporting pathways
  • 43:12and and and really fine tuning.
  • 43:14What the educational component the
  • 43:17mandatory component was going to
  • 43:19be this year I I think it's time to
  • 43:23sort of expand and and really focus
  • 43:26on our LGBTQ I plus curriculum.
  • 43:29Developing a formal curriculum,
  • 43:32working on pipeline programs.
  • 43:34As I mentioned before,
  • 43:35working with the Staff Council and and
  • 43:38and really revamping the the faculty,
  • 43:41the Faculty Council keep track of your
  • 43:44timeline time goes. By very fast.
  • 43:46As I said, we've been working.
  • 43:48You know what I've presented today
  • 43:49with working on for three years, but.
  • 43:53Time goes very very very,
  • 43:55very fast to remember that changing
  • 43:58institutional culture we almost we.
  • 44:00We should also change systems
  • 44:03it look at your own curriculum,
  • 44:05look at your recruitment practices.
  • 44:08Look at how how you interview candidates.
  • 44:12Do you have a structured interview?
  • 44:13Do you have a structural evaluation?
  • 44:16Who's reviewing the applications?
  • 44:18Is it the same people saying looking at
  • 44:21an application and telling somebody oh
  • 44:24that person will be a good fit for Yale?
  • 44:27What does that mean?
  • 44:28'cause what that means for you might
  • 44:30not be the same thing that I mean.
  • 44:32So as I tell my children, use your words.
  • 44:34So I just say it's a good fit for Yale.
  • 44:36You know things.
  • 44:37Things like that that are not
  • 44:40geared towards individuals but more
  • 44:44towards changing changing systems.
  • 44:48Again, I you know,
  • 44:50I'm very very excited with what
  • 44:53what your department is working on
  • 44:56and what will continue to work on.
  • 44:59I I want to continue hearing about
  • 45:02this 'cause I have a lot to learn
  • 45:05from all of these initiatives in.
  • 45:08Particular very interested in the
  • 45:10restorative practices. Did it work?
  • 45:13One of my Achilles tendon is if you if you.
  • 45:17Don't set aside time to devote to metrics.
  • 45:22Then if you ask me, has.
  • 45:24Has anything in Pediatrics change?
  • 45:27I would tell you absolutely.
  • 45:30But I don't.
  • 45:30I don't know.
  • 45:31I haven't measured it, so that's very much.
  • 45:37What's at least for me, a focused the
  • 45:42overall focus for the next few years?
  • 45:46I know talking about race,
  • 45:48ethnicity, racism is not easy.
  • 45:52It's important it's important
  • 45:54to have conversations.
  • 45:55This is work that we need to do.
  • 45:58Tara can't do it for you.
  • 46:00I can't do it for my department.
  • 46:03It's not the work of persons of color.
  • 46:05It's the work for entire
  • 46:08departments for individuals read,
  • 46:11watch documentaries,
  • 46:12listen to podcasts.
  • 46:14Just you need to exercise that muscle,
  • 46:16attend trainings when there are trainings,
  • 46:19please go.
  • 46:21An advocate join other Allied ships and
  • 46:24and when we talk about white privilege,
  • 46:27I call it the superpower and it's down
  • 46:29that you're afforded just by being born
  • 46:32into the group that you're born in.
  • 46:34Please use your super powers to
  • 46:37help combat structural racism,
  • 46:40and I'll end there.
  • 46:43My information is is it's
  • 46:45there and I'd be happy again,
  • 46:47thank you and I'll be happy
  • 46:50to to take questions.
  • 46:54Microphone here and we have seen for this so.
  • 46:59So many to mute. Somebody told me, OK?
  • 47:04I don't have a question.
  • 47:06Exactly one invite over there.
  • 47:10OK, anyone have a question?
  • 47:18Maria, thank you.
  • 47:19Thank you so much.
  • 47:20This is wonderful and I
  • 47:21thank you in behalf of.
  • 47:23Of all of us for what you're doing,
  • 47:25I guess it's a question that
  • 47:26I've been thinking a lot and
  • 47:28I'd love your take is you know,
  • 47:30Kennedy talks about you can only
  • 47:32be a racist or an anti racist.
  • 47:34It's a very categorical approach.
  • 47:39I like to think that behaviors
  • 47:41can be racist or anti racist.
  • 47:43People, I think we are
  • 47:45all in some continuum.
  • 47:47But I'm not quite sure.
  • 47:48I don't know that there's a
  • 47:50universal agreement on that,
  • 47:50and probably candy wouldn't,
  • 47:51so I I just it's something
  • 47:53that I'm thinking about it.
  • 47:54I love your your
  • 47:56your take on it.
  • 47:57Do I speak into this? Yes, OK.
  • 48:03As a pediatrician, I think of.
  • 48:06Developmental stages,
  • 48:07so I see it very much as a continuum,
  • 48:10like like you do.
  • 48:11I mean, they're just like there
  • 48:13are no bad people and good people.
  • 48:15There's always something good or bad in us.
  • 48:18I think the same thing about re.
  • 48:19Some are some individuals.
  • 48:21Purely racist in all of their views,
  • 48:24sure, but but I think if we see it as
  • 48:30that Yang or Yang, black or white,
  • 48:34we're going to alienate individuals who
  • 48:37who are transitioning and then might say,
  • 48:42well, you know, I, I can either
  • 48:44be in in one of in one of the two.
  • 48:47So I see it as a.
  • 48:50As said, development and it's a journey.
  • 48:54I don't think I can say that I'm fully fully.
  • 48:57Not a racist sometimes.
  • 49:00Things come into my head and I
  • 49:02go Oh my God and that stereotype.
  • 49:05I mean, I wouldn't say necessarily
  • 49:07racist but stereotypes and and I I accept it.
  • 49:12I don't act on them.
  • 49:14I used my strategies.
  • 49:16The ones that I keep teaching
  • 49:19to help me overcome those so.
  • 49:22That's how that's what I would say.
  • 49:25We have a question. From the debate.
  • 49:40Linda, would you like to ask a question?
  • 49:42That's well, thank you Karen.
  • 49:43Can everyone hear me OK?
  • 49:47Can I can you hear me?
  • 49:49Yes, OK great great thank you so much.
  • 49:52Yeah, thank you so much.
  • 49:53We really appreciate the partnership
  • 49:55already that you and Terra have.
  • 49:58And thank you for for including
  • 50:00us in your presentation.
  • 50:01I guess my question is also how can
  • 50:04we do more work together and I'm
  • 50:06sure that you and her are talking
  • 50:07about it but but I know that we
  • 50:09would really like to collaborate
  • 50:11more since we really are hard to.
  • 50:14We are the sister departments here.
  • 50:16So just your thoughts on that.
  • 50:23Back there, thank you.
  • 50:27You know, I I.
  • 50:29There's so much that we can collaborate in.
  • 50:34Trainees, I mean, some of your
  • 50:38trainees already collaborating with us.
  • 50:41I think with the faculty
  • 50:44as as well I would start.
  • 50:48Fights saying that people should
  • 50:50do what they're good at, right?
  • 50:52So the researchers if research,
  • 50:55you know, I don't expect somebody
  • 50:58who's 80% research to now be engaged in
  • 51:01something that's sort of out of their
  • 51:04of their expertise and comfort zone.
  • 51:08If there are researchers in your department
  • 51:11who are working on health inequities or
  • 51:14or they may even be clinical researchers
  • 51:16that are not working on health inequities.
  • 51:19There is a component of
  • 51:21health inequities in there.
  • 51:22I think that part very much is lacking
  • 51:27inter departmentally. So I think.
  • 51:31Perhaps we can do more with.
  • 51:35Having more joint presentations and and for
  • 51:38the people who are already doing the work,
  • 51:41having them present, for example,
  • 51:43basic science researchers saying,
  • 51:45well, you know, I looked at bias in
  • 51:48in how I do basic science research,
  • 51:51which people say it's impossible
  • 51:52that there isn't.
  • 51:53Well there is,
  • 51:54and having those presentations will give
  • 51:56sort of examples that motivates people.
  • 51:59'cause sometimes what happens?
  • 52:01Linda is when you don't do this work.
  • 52:03You say. Well where do I?
  • 52:05Start right right.
  • 52:06One of the things that's helpful
  • 52:08is just having examples so,
  • 52:10so I'm very happy and and and
  • 52:12feel very honored to have come.
  • 52:14And hopefully it's not that you
  • 52:16guys have to do what we did,
  • 52:18but maybe these are examples in
  • 52:20for the faculty in the onions.
  • 52:23They can say, well,
  • 52:24maybe that's one of the things that
  • 52:26that that we can do as leaders we meet.
  • 52:31We can meet more and share resources.
  • 52:36Invite each other to two hour events.
  • 52:40Some departments are bigger than others.
  • 52:44And.
  • 52:45When I started,
  • 52:47I started sharing resources because
  • 52:49I didn't have the budget or or the
  • 52:52bandwidth to be putting a lot of events.
  • 52:54So when the other DI champions were had
  • 52:58events in their institutions inviting them,
  • 53:02so one of the things that I think I'm going
  • 53:06to do starting now is share our calendar.
  • 53:09For that you know that event them
  • 53:12or what I call the morbidity
  • 53:14and mortality of diversity.
  • 53:16You know they can.
  • 53:17They can join that would be
  • 53:19great and we would we work.
  • 53:20We can share as well.
  • 53:22And Karen I'm going to put you on
  • 53:24the spot because I know you're
  • 53:25doing some health equity work.
  • 53:27So at some point,
  • 53:28maybe the two of you should talk as well.
  • 53:31And we have a question from Zooman.
  • 53:51There.
  • 53:55Say again. José José,
  • 53:58can you come in again?
  • 54:00Yes. Right, great go ahead.
  • 54:03Thank you so much Doctor
  • 54:06Vasquez for a wonderful talk.
  • 54:08My name is Jose and one of the second
  • 54:11year child Psychiatry fellows.
  • 54:13Uhm, I posted my question in the chat,
  • 54:16but it's pretty much.
  • 54:18Uhm, I was wondering what your opinion
  • 54:21is on the the role of the mandated
  • 54:24trainings and how this may be a
  • 54:27retraumatization for the staff and
  • 54:29trainees that it's aimed to protect.
  • 54:32'cause I mean I've been to
  • 54:33some of these trainings and the
  • 54:35information is very useful,
  • 54:37but at a certain point you know
  • 54:39being the person or being one of
  • 54:41the people that it's is suffering
  • 54:43from the micro aggressions.
  • 54:44The racism, uhm?
  • 54:45Can be re traumatizing to be
  • 54:48in these trainings at times.
  • 54:53It's a, it's a great question. Uhm?
  • 55:01We don't have. Trainings that we've
  • 55:04never rolled out. A training that.
  • 55:08Not only one person, but that several
  • 55:11people have gone through and come.
  • 55:16And vetted Sodus, so to speak, but.
  • 55:22What you're what you're describing.
  • 55:24Actually happened with a faculty member
  • 55:28in the anti racism training the seminar
  • 55:31because in the in the beginning they
  • 55:34showed a video and and and this this
  • 55:37person had to step away and and sort of
  • 55:41take a break and and I learned a lot.
  • 55:44I felt bad 'cause I had seen the content but.
  • 55:52To me it was something that was quite
  • 55:55shocking but not traumatizing so dumb.
  • 56:00So, so now it's really a disclaimer that.
  • 56:05Anybody can turn off their camera that
  • 56:08if you if if it's a topic we don't just
  • 56:12say this is the training without without
  • 56:14really having in the curriculum a brief
  • 56:17description of what it's about, but.
  • 56:22Anybody who. Who?
  • 56:25Dustin join or or or complete
  • 56:29that piece of training.
  • 56:31Now you're asking about the mandatory
  • 56:34and you know the mandatory training
  • 56:37are three one hour sessions.
  • 56:40It's really more for all the other.
  • 56:43For all the other events that that happens,
  • 56:45and we say if if you don't want to be
  • 56:47if you don't want to be part of it,
  • 56:49you don't have to.
  • 56:50It's a matter of fact,
  • 56:51in most of the town halls that we have.
  • 56:56I don't overtax the UM.
  • 57:01Are are under represented in in medicine
  • 57:04constituents because they they carry enough,
  • 57:08especially when they're
  • 57:09debriefing town halls.
  • 57:11So you know, I'm giving some answering.
  • 57:14I'm giving your your question a lot
  • 57:18of thought because. I wonder if.
  • 57:20Not, I wonder,
  • 57:22it probably has happened and
  • 57:23just people haven't come forward,
  • 57:25so I thank you for that.
  • 57:28I think I can do a better job.
  • 57:31Not just say you know it's this is
  • 57:34just a a menu of things that that
  • 57:37that you can that you can attend.
  • 57:41But
  • 57:44but being being more clear
  • 57:47and in the beginning,
  • 57:48I have to say not in the not.
  • 57:50In the in the trainings by the hospital.
  • 57:53But in any of the events that we do,
  • 57:55we always send the beginning.
  • 57:56Say you know what we give the
  • 57:58disclaimer that you know some of these
  • 57:59things might be difficult for some.
  • 58:01For some people that it's OK to
  • 58:03step away that you know you don't.
  • 58:06You don't have to be here,
  • 58:07but for the mandatory ones
  • 58:09the on the out training.
  • 58:13I mean that. That's training
  • 58:17that's been viewed by thousands,
  • 58:19if not millions of people and and I don't.
  • 58:22I think it's it's displayed in a way that's.
  • 58:27That it's. I don't want to use
  • 58:30the word non traumatizing because
  • 58:32I think that would be sort of
  • 58:34reflecting on something that I can't
  • 58:35that I can't really do, but it's,
  • 58:37but it's shaped in a way to empower those
  • 58:42who who suffer from from microaggression.
  • 58:45But thank you for that, that's.
  • 58:48Your question is a learning
  • 58:49experience for me.
  • 58:53So just think, do I mute now?
  • 58:57We're good, OK, I just wanted to thank
  • 59:01you for coming to our our grand rounds
  • 59:04and also for just all that you presented
  • 59:07and all that you've supported me in
  • 59:10as I'm learning to help and support
  • 59:12our community and the reminder of the
  • 59:14collaboration that it takes an entire
  • 59:17department to do this work together.
  • 59:19We've got you put up a couple of
  • 59:22those slides that that I shared with
  • 59:23you and I thank you for that and will
  • 59:25run through them for our department
  • 59:26more clearly so that they can.
  • 59:28See all of the pieces and how
  • 59:29they fit together.
  • 59:30It's an ongoing journey and a muscle
  • 59:32that we develop and continue to stress,
  • 59:34so I appreciate hearing what the journey
  • 59:36has been and that each year you're refining
  • 59:39and learning more. So thank you.
  • 59:41So that was a perfect synopsis
  • 59:44of our joint feelings about you
  • 59:46being a trailblazer for all of us,
  • 59:49and we long to be in place.
  • 59:52You are very soon and thank
  • 59:54you for your mentorship.
  • 59:55Thank you, thank you.
  • 59:56Thank you guys.
  • 01:00:03Jose is.