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Child Study Center Grand Round 09.22.2020

April 07, 2021
  • 00:00Pleasure to present this work at my home.
  • 00:03Let me share my slides here. One second.
  • 00:15Alright, so in the next hour or so,
  • 00:19my colleague and I will be introducing
  • 00:22you yell chat together the acronym Stand
  • 00:27for Compassionate Home Action together.
  • 00:30This is a Co-op, diversity mental health
  • 00:32movement that we started about a year ago,
  • 00:35but during the pandemic we have
  • 00:38been expanding quite a bit.
  • 00:40Now let me introduce what are the
  • 00:43thinking an calling behind this.
  • 00:45It started me as an Asian American child
  • 00:48psychiatry training and a group of very
  • 00:51talented colleague who are passionate
  • 00:53to do something for the Asian Americans.
  • 00:56They include yell undergraduate students,
  • 00:59graduate students, medical students,
  • 01:02international students,
  • 01:03and scholar inside and outside of Yale.
  • 01:08As you all know, in this pandemic
  • 01:11has provoked so much emotions,
  • 01:13it began with the worries about
  • 01:16our physical health and safety.
  • 01:18Then he is the fear, anger,
  • 01:21loneliness from the ongoing pandemic
  • 01:23related injustice from the society,
  • 01:26including the Daily News Reporter about
  • 01:28Sina phobic attack against Asian American.
  • 01:31And then later on,
  • 01:33black Life Matters and many more
  • 01:36from the society.
  • 01:38Deep reflection make us ponder what
  • 01:41it means to be a minority in this
  • 01:44country and what it means to be the
  • 01:47next generation of children growing
  • 01:49up in this unprecedented time.
  • 01:52As a trainee at the Yale Child Study Center,
  • 01:56as we all learn from Doctor Stube,
  • 01:59we have the mission to make this world a
  • 02:02better place for our children and families.
  • 02:06With all this statement.
  • 02:07This is what we're trying to achieve as
  • 02:10chat together through interactive theater,
  • 02:13we want to translate mental health to
  • 02:16a language that can be understood by
  • 02:19all through words, images and acting.
  • 02:22Particularly acting,
  • 02:23we put action that we can do
  • 02:26something for one another.
  • 02:29This is also a culturally sensitive program
  • 02:32in which we promote healthy child pairing,
  • 02:36communication,
  • 02:37and emotional Wellness.
  • 02:38We want to break the stigma of mental
  • 02:43health so that we can talk mental
  • 02:46health in our daily conversation.
  • 02:48Lastly, chat together.
  • 02:50Want to promote intercultural empathy
  • 02:53as we all know we started this program
  • 02:57within Asian American minority.
  • 02:59But we need your help today to Unite
  • 03:03across minorities including the ethnic
  • 03:06minority and minority such as LGBTQ woman,
  • 03:10gender, who maybe all of these are
  • 03:14particularly vulnerable during this pandemic.
  • 03:18Ultimately,
  • 03:19we can all chat together.
  • 03:23Now with this statement I would like
  • 03:26to introduce the outline of this
  • 03:28talk which also give you a snapshot
  • 03:31of what we do in the organization.
  • 03:33So we have theater arm in which our
  • 03:37students and colleagues use the personal
  • 03:40narrative to construct skits that
  • 03:43features Asian child parent conflict.
  • 03:46Indeed,
  • 03:46today we will live perform one of the
  • 03:49skit to show everyone how does that work.
  • 03:53Two, we have public education arm.
  • 03:55We constructed Flash card
  • 03:57comics and podcasts.
  • 03:59The follow up the teaching tool
  • 04:02teaching point from the skit so that
  • 04:05we translate what we learn into lay
  • 04:09language to the comment to the community.
  • 04:13We also have a research on
  • 04:15in which we translate
  • 04:17the academic question that could
  • 04:19be interesting from the skin.
  • 04:22We follow up with qualitative
  • 04:24study and survey.
  • 04:26For we have peer support ARM.
  • 04:29Some of our member and I serve,
  • 04:32consultation and peer support to
  • 04:34the local New Haven community.
  • 04:37Lastly, we also have collaboration
  • 04:39on we work with artists,
  • 04:41see the people and I will introduce one
  • 04:44of the pilot project involving a school
  • 04:47based project and I will talk about that.
  • 04:51And Lastly I would like to call for action
  • 04:55and talk about our future direction.
  • 04:58So theater arm?
  • 05:00How does that work?
  • 05:02A group uses drama vignette as
  • 05:04a way to capture specific themes
  • 05:07of child parent conflict.
  • 05:10Each of the skate has three parts.
  • 05:13The first part we have a member to
  • 05:16act out the problematic scenario.
  • 05:19Chill.
  • 05:20Me as the moderate are our call
  • 05:23freeze and I will go in and process
  • 05:26as the perspective of child and
  • 05:29the parent will go over what go
  • 05:32wrong and what could be changed.
  • 05:35Three, as if everything in life has a tech.
  • 05:40Two, we will.
  • 05:41We do the same skit after incorporating
  • 05:44more effective communication skill
  • 05:47leading to an alternative scenario.
  • 05:50Now in the past we have a skid related at
  • 05:54the topic about COVID-19 family conflict.
  • 05:58Black Life Matters discussion within
  • 06:01Asian family LGBTQ coming out in
  • 06:04Asian family mental health and
  • 06:06stigma and also academic expectation.
  • 06:11Now this month September is
  • 06:15national Suicide Prevention Month.
  • 06:18Chat together theater present
  • 06:21parents with all the solutions.
  • 06:23Let me take this opportunity to introduce
  • 06:27scriptwriters Karabakh, who is a
  • 06:30master student from Drexel University.
  • 06:32She has a lot of experience
  • 06:36in community theater.
  • 06:37She is our chat together,
  • 06:40Skip production director.
  • 06:43Alan Lee, who is a fourth year medical
  • 06:46student and he is our acting director.
  • 06:50Hannah Lee, who is an undergraduate
  • 06:52student from Centre College in Kentucky.
  • 06:55She is a social media coordinating director,
  • 06:58so we put all our video public,
  • 07:01eight public education material
  • 07:04to the social media.
  • 07:06Today we have two actors,
  • 07:08Vanessa Shockey who is the US service
  • 07:11members serving in the armed force.
  • 07:14She will be acting as the daughter
  • 07:17in the skit, teenager, daughter.
  • 07:19Her name is Jessica in the skip
  • 07:23and we have Alan will act as a
  • 07:26dad in a skip while just to keep
  • 07:29in mind we are not Oscar winning
  • 07:32actors here but we're showing the
  • 07:34point drama is not everything.
  • 07:37Everyone of you can be the actor.
  • 07:40Everyone can be the skit
  • 07:42writer and the moderator.
  • 07:44With that in mind stage setup Jessica
  • 07:47is an Asian American teenager who's
  • 07:49trying to talk to her dad about
  • 07:53depression and wanting to hurt herself.
  • 07:56The child is also being stressed
  • 07:58by a combination of cyberbullying,
  • 08:01having people sent racist messages
  • 08:04about Asian brink over to the US.
  • 08:07Being at home all the time and
  • 08:09not being able to see friends.
  • 08:12Parents are fighting and yelling at home,
  • 08:14and a grandparent is sick from Covid.
  • 08:18With this background that may
  • 08:20get out of this lie.
  • 08:22Ann,
  • 08:23now we are at will live performance
  • 08:27right now. OK, so Jessica and dad.
  • 08:31Are you ready?
  • 08:32Give us an bill yourself and give
  • 08:35me a heads up.
  • 08:37We're ready already
  • 08:38alright? And everyone Are you ready?
  • 08:41Red alright, so yes version one
  • 08:48problematic scenario. Action.
  • 08:52Jessica, what's wrong with you?
  • 08:54I finally said the pill.
  • 08:55Bottle comma just told me you think
  • 08:58about hurting yourself and you're
  • 08:59really sad and you want to see a
  • 09:02doctor. There's nothing wrong with you,
  • 09:04you only have Doctor was wrong.
  • 09:05Oh my God dad,
  • 09:07I didn't take those pills like geez,
  • 09:09I what's wrong with you? I just I.
  • 09:12I don't know. I've been really sad.
  • 09:14OK, why you feeling sad Oh my God,
  • 09:16stop yelling at me,
  • 09:18Dad see This is why I didn't.
  • 09:20I just I don't know why, OK?
  • 09:22The last couple of months have
  • 09:24just been really stressful.
  • 09:26And yeah, for all of us yeah cool OK,
  • 09:29but for me I don't know.
  • 09:31I've just been really,
  • 09:32you know, schools being closed.
  • 09:34I can't see my friends.
  • 09:36I can't go anywhere I like,
  • 09:38I've been getting so much crap
  • 09:40online from these random people.
  • 09:42I don't even go to school with them,
  • 09:45just these random people keep harassing
  • 09:47me about like coronavirus and like,
  • 09:49oh, it's your fault because you're
  • 09:51Asian and delete Instagram then.
  • 09:53I blocked them and I'm not gonna.
  • 09:56I can't delete Instagram because that's like.
  • 09:59I like it. And I, that's how I talk to
  • 10:02my friends. There's something
  • 10:04called calling your friends or
  • 10:05zooming them. Dad, no windows.
  • 10:07That is awkward. That's because you're
  • 10:09awkward. Oh my God, there are
  • 10:11said I have the weird kid.
  • 10:12That's so mean when you
  • 10:14say that I don't think you
  • 10:16understand I'm just being real. These
  • 10:18are your problems.
  • 10:19These things I'm making with happy.
  • 10:21So you need to just stop thinking
  • 10:23about these Internet strangers
  • 10:24and you won't be unhappy.
  • 10:26You don't need to see a doctor.
  • 10:28OK, just don't be unhappy.
  • 10:30Dad, I tried to do that but it
  • 10:32doesn't work. It's more than that.
  • 10:34That's why I think I need help. I
  • 10:36I'll tell you right now,
  • 10:38just think about other people's lives.
  • 10:39Like for example there are
  • 10:41kids in China were like don't
  • 10:42have their parents around.
  • 10:44They have to do all the housework,
  • 10:45nothing going work.
  • 10:46All these jobs are paying very little
  • 10:48money and life is super hard for them.
  • 10:50You don't have to do that like think
  • 10:53about that your life is so much
  • 10:55better just to have some perspective.
  • 10:56I know that like yes, I'm very happy that
  • 10:59I don't have to like God. But dad, that's
  • 11:03that's it doesn't work.
  • 11:05That's what's wrong with you.
  • 11:06You haven't tried it. I
  • 11:08have tried it and it doesn't help.
  • 11:10It doesn't make me happier to know
  • 11:13that other people are suffering it.
  • 11:15Like honestly, it makes me more
  • 11:17sad why, like? Well, I think about
  • 11:19something sad and I stop to think about
  • 11:22how much worse it could be. I appreciate
  • 11:24my situation more. Try that. Yeah,
  • 11:26like I appreciate the house in the roof
  • 11:29and not having to be in child labor.
  • 11:31Yeah, there's nothing to
  • 11:33be sad about.
  • 11:34But I'm still, you and Mom
  • 11:35are arguing all the time.
  • 11:37You're always yelling at me.
  • 11:38And like with Gramma getting sick
  • 11:40last week, but she's better this
  • 11:42week. She got shot. She got better. Yeah, I
  • 11:44get that I know that, but I was still scared.
  • 11:47It's just too much and I don't know
  • 11:49how to but there's nothing wrong so
  • 11:52you don't need to see a doctor.
  • 11:54You don't need to think
  • 11:55about hurting yourself.
  • 11:56There's nothing wrong with you, OK?
  • 11:58Oh my God, dad, I'm trying
  • 12:00to tell you that I need
  • 12:02help. I am helping you like
  • 12:03I'm here to help you right now.
  • 12:06We all love you. OK so you'll be fine.
  • 12:08OK they just think about happy
  • 12:10things so that you won't be
  • 12:11thinking about hurting yourself
  • 12:13and you don't even see a doctor.
  • 12:15OK, just try to be more happy.
  • 12:17Jessica alright.
  • 12:19If you don't find, I'll try.
  • 12:24Alright, freeze. OK, sounds a dad
  • 12:28and Jessica were pretty upset.
  • 12:30Obviously an less pause and
  • 12:32talk about it now Jessica,
  • 12:35tell us what was going on just now.
  • 12:40I feel like my dad, he doesn't really
  • 12:42want to listen to what I have to say.
  • 12:44He just wants me to not be sad anymore
  • 12:46and he doesn't really want to hear what
  • 12:49I've been going through an I've been
  • 12:50asking to see a doctor and he doesn't
  • 12:52think that's going to be helpful.
  • 12:54He thinks it isn't really
  • 12:55like an illness or anything.
  • 12:57So it sounds like you're
  • 12:59trying to reach out for help,
  • 13:01but that is not listening.
  • 13:03Yeah, OK, if if you can put your
  • 13:06feeling into words to describe it,
  • 13:08but what would that like?
  • 13:10What would that feel like?
  • 13:13Well it makes me.
  • 13:15Feel really hopeless?
  • 13:17'cause there's things that he's
  • 13:18been telling me to do, obviously,
  • 13:20and that's the first thing I tried
  • 13:22and I think I'm at a point where I
  • 13:24can't really do this on my own and I
  • 13:27need like a doctor or somebody to get
  • 13:29me professional help to get out of this,
  • 13:31because otherwise I don't know how
  • 13:33much longer I can deal with this.
  • 13:36So Sansa, you are really
  • 13:37crying out for help,
  • 13:39you need help right now, yeah.
  • 13:42I see now now so now to Dad,
  • 13:45you know, really upset?
  • 13:47Just now to help but
  • 13:49understand what was going on.
  • 13:52I was just really worried about
  • 13:53Jessica hurting herself like,
  • 13:55especially after finding that pill bottle.
  • 13:57I just really want her to try and focus
  • 13:59on being happy because she has so much
  • 14:01to be happy in her life or like I just.
  • 14:04I just don't want him to be sad.
  • 14:06Just wanted to focus on being happy.
  • 14:09So you worry for her at the same time,
  • 14:12you're trying to figure out something.
  • 14:14Some solution to fix this?
  • 14:16Yeah, I'm trying to help you right now.
  • 14:18OK, well I'm a neutral observer here.
  • 14:21I don't judge, but I'm trying to
  • 14:23point out some observation and
  • 14:25see what Jessica and you think,
  • 14:28what you, what your perspective. OK.
  • 14:30One thing that I notice at the beginning
  • 14:33is sounds like Dad mentioned the phrase
  • 14:36what's wrong with you couple of times.
  • 14:39So you know like what's wrong
  • 14:41with you in Asian language,
  • 14:43perhaps in especially in Chinese.
  • 14:45What's wrong with you,
  • 14:47man, you're someone T or.
  • 14:49The amendment I sounds like a pretty neutral
  • 14:52phrase to go to means what is going on,
  • 14:55but if what's wrong with you
  • 14:58directly translate into English
  • 14:59in my son's a little hurtful,
  • 15:01perhaps I don't judge here,
  • 15:03but like I we are here to
  • 15:05wonder together so Jessica,
  • 15:07like what is that phrase?
  • 15:09What's wrong with you make you feel
  • 15:12when that mentioned at the beginning?
  • 15:15Well, that phrase makes me feel like
  • 15:17I'm purposefully trying to feel sad like
  • 15:19I'm doing this to myself, which I'm not.
  • 15:22It also makes me feel like he's
  • 15:24blaming me for how I'm feeling.
  • 15:27Haha so so that sounds like you
  • 15:30also interpret that as like her for
  • 15:32like the problem is coming from you.
  • 15:35Sounds like OK Ann and Dad like,
  • 15:37we don't assume what we say is what
  • 15:40you meant when you mention what's
  • 15:42wrong with you, what was on your mind?
  • 15:45What were you trying to say?
  • 15:48Uh, so I can catch these.
  • 15:50I might say, like yo man,
  • 15:51Montay, and that that's what
  • 15:53means what's wrong with you.
  • 15:54Because I'm asking,
  • 15:55what's the issue like I'm trying to
  • 15:58communicate with the time trying
  • 15:59to find out what's the matter and
  • 16:02what's the situation with her.
  • 16:04I guess I didn't know that
  • 16:05to her when I asked her that.
  • 16:07It sounds like I'm assuming she's
  • 16:09broken or incorrect in some way.
  • 16:10I'm just trying to figure
  • 16:12out what's going on.
  • 16:14I say I say so, so I'm glad we
  • 16:17have this opportunity to discuss.
  • 16:19Perhaps there are some cross cultural
  • 16:21or cross language issue here.
  • 16:23Anan that you can see that Jessica,
  • 16:25you know that that didn't
  • 16:27mean the way he said,
  • 16:28and perhaps in my already make you
  • 16:30feel in a certain way that upset you.
  • 16:33I'm glad that perhaps we can be more
  • 16:36aware of it and we can have a better
  • 16:39way to communicate to one another.
  • 16:42Now another thing that I notice you
  • 16:44know Dad was trying to help Jessica
  • 16:47to figure out some solution based on
  • 16:50what you think that worked for you.
  • 16:52Perhaps in the past,
  • 16:54but it sounds pretty reluctant for for
  • 16:56you to get Jessica for professional help.
  • 16:59I wonder what is it all about?
  • 17:03I
  • 17:03just think that this is something
  • 17:05that she can deal with herself.
  • 17:07All of us are sad sometimes or
  • 17:09like faced with tough situations.
  • 17:11But I think my central part is being
  • 17:13able to work through them and you
  • 17:15sometimes just be able to grit your teeth
  • 17:18and work hard through these issues.
  • 17:19I've had times where my life has
  • 17:21been going quite right and I just
  • 17:23grab my teeth and work through
  • 17:25it and change my circumstances.
  • 17:27That's what she should do too.
  • 17:29But the people have to go to doctors.
  • 17:31Those people have something like
  • 17:32seriously wrong with their mind,
  • 17:34like they might have to take pills or
  • 17:36they hear voices like those who are crazy.
  • 17:38Jessica isn't crazy 'cause she's my
  • 17:39daughter and there's nothing wrong with
  • 17:41her and she doesn't need to see a doctor.
  • 17:45Well, I see that's how you make the way how
  • 17:49you think about it when we mentioned about
  • 17:52going to see a doctor for mental health,
  • 17:55well that's one way to see it but but
  • 17:58at the same time I I notice initially
  • 18:01that what brought you become so worry
  • 18:04about Jessica was the pill bottle and
  • 18:07as Jessica mentioned also the COVID-19.
  • 18:09The bullying happening on Instagram.
  • 18:11Those really negatively impacted
  • 18:13Jessica and those are not trivial.
  • 18:16Anne, and perhaps this is
  • 18:18something like in our culture.
  • 18:19Perhaps it is something really is not
  • 18:22the easiest thing to reach out for help.
  • 18:25Especially talking to mental health
  • 18:27provider may have, you know,
  • 18:29negative interpretation what it
  • 18:31means to talk to a psychiatrist.
  • 18:34Well, in fact you are talking
  • 18:36to a child psychiatrist.
  • 18:38I am one of the people there.
  • 18:40I guess maybe we can work together,
  • 18:43figure out some way you know we're not
  • 18:45just seeing so-called crazy people.
  • 18:48We are the people trying to help children,
  • 18:51adolescents and young adults to help them
  • 18:53to have a healthy growing development to
  • 18:56do something they want to do in life.
  • 18:59And especially in this pandemic,
  • 19:01many children are metal and
  • 19:03the lesson and even adult.
  • 19:05They are really vulnerable.
  • 19:06They have good reason to be
  • 19:09sad and need help.
  • 19:10I think that is a new learning curve.
  • 19:13We can work together well.
  • 19:15The same question also to Jessica Tool.
  • 19:18How long have you been thinking
  • 19:20about reaching out to mental
  • 19:22health provider is that?
  • 19:23Is there any hesitancy there too?
  • 19:27Yeah, so I've been thinking about it,
  • 19:29but it just I don't know.
  • 19:31I just can't go to the doctor by myself.
  • 19:33I need someone to take me and if
  • 19:35I can't get my parents to agree
  • 19:37with how we're going to solve this,
  • 19:39then I don't know.
  • 19:40I got really hopeless and thought about
  • 19:42doing some really bad things to myself,
  • 19:44but I mean like I hear from my friends,
  • 19:47you know, going to the doctor can help and
  • 19:49you don't always have to take medicine.
  • 19:51I can go to therapy or something
  • 19:53and see if that's going to help me.
  • 19:56I see so it sounds like to Jessica,
  • 19:59and perhaps, you know.
  • 20:00There's something new to you.
  • 20:02Perhaps it is also very new to that as well.
  • 20:05And then as we are exploring something
  • 20:08you we don't know what to expect,
  • 20:10like what you expect to see a therapist
  • 20:13or what to expect to see a psychiatrist.
  • 20:16You know this is all new and generate
  • 20:19you know and ciety and worrying
  • 20:21what it is like all about, right?
  • 20:23So so Dad as you can see Jessica like.
  • 20:27Need someone to emotionally support her
  • 20:29to navigate this uncertain T there.
  • 20:33So Lastly to Jessica, if that is one
  • 20:36thing you want that to change as we
  • 20:39move on the alternative scenario,
  • 20:42what do you want there to change so that
  • 20:45you feel his emotional support to you?
  • 20:50If he could let me finish kind
  • 20:52of explaining how is feeling,
  • 20:54or if he could be more open to other
  • 20:56solutions because I mean if I end
  • 20:59up hurting myself really badly,
  • 21:00I think that going to the Doctor an
  • 21:03even if going to the doctor is overkill
  • 21:05and I don't need to go to the doctor.
  • 21:08I still think it's better than doing
  • 21:10these other methods that could end up
  • 21:12doing something you know permanent and
  • 21:14something that could really hurt myself.
  • 21:16I just wish that he would open up his mind.
  • 21:20These other solutions because it really
  • 21:22helped me be less stressed about,
  • 21:24you know, working through this thing.
  • 21:27OK, Ananta dad, if there's
  • 21:29one thing you can point out
  • 21:31you want Jessica to change.
  • 21:33So next time when she goes to
  • 21:35you to tell you her feeling,
  • 21:38what would you want her to change?
  • 21:41I guess if Jessica could try
  • 21:43like maybe if she could come
  • 21:45and talk to me about things
  • 21:47that would help in the future.
  • 21:49Well, I guess you do that.
  • 21:50I did you start by not interrupting
  • 21:52her as much and trying to show
  • 21:54like maybe I'm actually,
  • 21:55I'm actually worried.
  • 21:57OK, so that sounds like both of
  • 21:59you want to make some changes
  • 22:02to for better communication.
  • 22:04Well, if there's one thing I can propose
  • 22:07to change, perhaps that you know,
  • 22:09and Jessica instead of using the angry
  • 22:12and defensive mode to show your care,
  • 22:15why don't we try having a more caring,
  • 22:18worrying tone to carry out the conversation?
  • 22:21You want to give it a try here.
  • 22:25Alright, here we go version 2.
  • 22:30Alternative scenario.
  • 22:33Action. Jessica,
  • 22:35what's happening with you?
  • 22:36I found this empty pill bottle I heard
  • 22:38from God that you think about hurting
  • 22:40yourself and you're really unhappy
  • 22:41and you want to doctor what's wrong?
  • 22:44Well, I I didn't think Grandma was going to.
  • 22:48That I didn't take those pills, I
  • 22:51just what's wrong.
  • 22:52Do you actually wanna know?
  • 22:54Yeah, I wanna know what's going on.
  • 22:59If I didn't want to
  • 23:00know, why would I be asking you?
  • 23:02See, I don't know yell at me some
  • 23:05more 'cause I'm not good enough.
  • 23:06No, I don't know. I
  • 23:09don't yell at you 'cause
  • 23:10you're not good enough.
  • 23:11I'm yelling at you because I'm trying
  • 23:12to make you better.
  • 23:14Dad, I don't know.
  • 23:15I I don't know what's wrong and
  • 23:17that's the problem. I've just been.
  • 23:19I've been really sad, OK?
  • 23:22You have been sad.
  • 23:24Yeah, for a long time now and
  • 23:26it's gotten so much worse with
  • 23:28the pandemic and staying home
  • 23:29all the time and I've getting
  • 23:31been getting bombarded with all
  • 23:33these randos on Instagram that
  • 23:34are telling me that it's my
  • 23:36fault that coronavirus is here.
  • 23:38You know the Chinese virus.
  • 23:40Just delete Instagram.
  • 23:41I don't have Instagram so I don't
  • 23:44get these messages and I don't
  • 23:46have those bad feelings. Dad,
  • 23:47it's not Instagram's fault, it's
  • 23:49the people. I'm giving you a
  • 23:52solution. OK Dad, you're not listening.
  • 23:54I don't think you understand how stressful
  • 23:57it's been being home all the time.
  • 23:59You and Mom are always fighting
  • 24:01always yelling at me an with
  • 24:04Gramma getting sick last week.
  • 24:05Graham's fine, now dad.
  • 24:07You asked me what's wrong?
  • 24:10Do you really want to know?
  • 24:11Do you really want to listen to me?
  • 24:13'cause I don't feel like
  • 24:14you're listening to me.
  • 24:15I just feel like every time I
  • 24:17try to say something you just
  • 24:19try to tell me why I'm wrong.
  • 24:20OK, OK, but that doesn't make
  • 24:22when I'm feeling not real.
  • 24:24Yeah, OK.
  • 24:25OK OK I
  • 24:26wanna listen to
  • 24:27you. You about what's wrong.
  • 24:29OK, I want you to be happy.
  • 24:30I don't want you to have to go see a doctor.
  • 24:34Yeah, but I think I need to see a doctor.
  • 24:37Dad. There's a whole field of medicine
  • 24:39that exists for this. It's not.
  • 24:40It's not fake, it's not just for
  • 24:42crazy people or whatever it's.
  • 24:44I get really sad and I don't know
  • 24:47what to do about it and so it
  • 24:49makes me want to hurt myself and I.
  • 24:51I don't know how not to feel this way.
  • 24:56OK. And honestly, Dad,
  • 24:59I didn't want to talk to you about it
  • 25:01because I didn't think you'd understand
  • 25:03or want to do anything about it.
  • 25:04I told Grandma about it.
  • 25:06Just 'cause I got to the point
  • 25:08and it just came out and I need
  • 25:10help and I don't know what to do.
  • 25:12I
  • 25:12know you trust Grandma a
  • 25:14lot and gramma loves you a
  • 25:15lot and she was worried,
  • 25:16so that's why she told us.
  • 25:19Grandma actually thinks
  • 25:21you should see a doctor.
  • 25:23You know, Jessica?
  • 25:24I never really heard about.
  • 25:29I just heard about people killing
  • 25:31themselves because they got way too
  • 25:32stressed or some other crazy thing,
  • 25:34but it sounds like the peoples peoples
  • 25:36words on Instagram are really hurting
  • 25:37your feelings and this whole pandemic
  • 25:39is really hard for a lot of people.
  • 25:41Or maybe I haven't been trying
  • 25:43to think by from your side.
  • 25:45Dad, I don't know what's wrong with
  • 25:47me and I know I have like a roof
  • 25:50over my head and all those things.
  • 25:52And even with that I still can't feel
  • 25:54happy and this makes me feel even worse.
  • 25:58I don't really get what's going on either,
  • 26:00but I'm worried about you,
  • 26:02so let's try figure out together.
  • 26:03OK, like, let's make appointment with
  • 26:05Doctor and I'll go with there with you.
  • 26:08I love you Dad. OK.
  • 26:13Alright, so probably guys
  • 26:15this is the end of the skit.
  • 26:18Thank you Vanessa Ann Allen, gay.
  • 26:23OK, let's go back to the slide
  • 26:26and continue the. Conversation.
  • 26:34OK, so that was our theater arm.
  • 26:38We also have public education.
  • 26:40Our chat together, we grow.
  • 26:43We produce flash card that to
  • 26:46follow up the conversation teaching
  • 26:49point coming from the skin,
  • 26:51let me introduce we have a member name
  • 26:55Griffey veteran who is a research associate
  • 26:59at Yale Department of Evolution Biology.
  • 27:03Besides science,
  • 27:03she has a lot of talent.
  • 27:06One of his talent is graphic design
  • 27:09and also she also helped us to design
  • 27:12our chat together logo as well.
  • 27:14So my role as the trainee.
  • 27:17I put a lot of concept that I learn
  • 27:19from the residency and translator into
  • 27:22lay language so that people in the
  • 27:25Community can understand it an applied
  • 27:28it to the real child parent interaction.
  • 27:31For example here we have.
  • 27:33There's just a definition of mentalization
  • 27:36like imagine yourself in other other shoes.
  • 27:39Be curious, nonjudgmental things
  • 27:41through the lens of the other side.
  • 27:45Using age appropriate language.
  • 27:47So we translate this flash card
  • 27:50and chill Chinese to Korean,
  • 27:52and this is done by me and
  • 27:56Jessica and Vanessa.
  • 27:57So if any one of you have,
  • 28:00like any other linguistic
  • 28:02talent like join us,
  • 28:04we want to spread this to other
  • 28:07other community who speak
  • 28:09different languages as well.
  • 28:11So more of this,
  • 28:13we have chat together comics.
  • 28:15We use graphic.
  • 28:17Graphic Madison as a way using
  • 28:19visual storytelling method
  • 28:21to illustrate mentalization.
  • 28:23This is our other chat together
  • 28:27member nearly no.
  • 28:28Who is a third year medical
  • 28:31student from University of Toledo.
  • 28:34She is also a yell alumni really,
  • 28:37really have the talent to combine
  • 28:41Med medicine, an graphic design.
  • 28:43So this is a comic speed between
  • 28:46a modern daughter conversation.
  • 28:49So Mother said you haven't been
  • 28:52eating in this entire week.
  • 28:53What is wrong, Mom? I think I'm depressed.
  • 28:56So Mom tried to mentalize here.
  • 28:59How could she be depressed?
  • 29:01I don't understand,
  • 29:02but right now I know my daughter is not OK.
  • 29:05Maybe being a teen in this country
  • 29:08can be really difficult and confusing.
  • 29:10I should try to understand how she
  • 29:13is feeling in order to support her.
  • 29:17So Mom said,
  • 29:18did I ever tell you how I felt when
  • 29:20I moved to this country as a teen?
  • 29:23I felt similar to how I think
  • 29:25you might be feeling right now.
  • 29:28So daughter also tried a mental eyes
  • 29:30too really. What was that like?
  • 29:32I was sad. I was lonely then too.
  • 29:35I might not know exactly how it
  • 29:37is for you right now,
  • 29:39but I want to be there for you.
  • 29:42Thanks Mom asunder heart for you
  • 29:44back down to can we talk more?
  • 29:47Of course.
  • 29:49Show up this is a public education arm.
  • 29:53Now we also have a research component
  • 29:57in this program after we published.
  • 30:00Culvert 19 skit on social media
  • 30:03with her wanna follow up the
  • 30:06question we want to see whether
  • 30:09family harmony have changed after
  • 30:11covid so we conduct a survey to
  • 30:14understand family harmony scale
  • 30:16before and after COVID-19.
  • 30:18And here's the distribution within
  • 30:20Asian American between 18 to
  • 30:2225. So we have a research team here.
  • 30:26Herman Pang who is a junior
  • 30:29undergraduate student at Yale.
  • 30:30Major in philosophy helping us.
  • 30:33He is our chat together development,
  • 30:36development, outreach, director.
  • 30:37So he's helping us to recruit
  • 30:40all the participants here.
  • 30:42And Michelle saw who is a poster
  • 30:44at Yale Department of Neurobiology
  • 30:47and she is a research consultant.
  • 30:50So here's some distribution as we are.
  • 30:53This is a really in the middle
  • 30:56of a recruiting participant
  • 30:58here that is ongoing survey.
  • 31:01Some of them are see they show
  • 31:03increase of family harmony.
  • 31:05Some show decrease how many
  • 31:06some showed no change.
  • 31:08So to follow up the question we want
  • 31:10to see what may associate with each
  • 31:13of the change we follow up with a
  • 31:16qualitative study to do an individual
  • 31:18interview on teens and parents.
  • 31:22This line of study are performed
  • 31:24by Allen and also maxou.
  • 31:26Let me introduce Max.
  • 31:27Max is our youngest chat together member.
  • 31:30He is the Senior High School
  • 31:33student from Choke Rosemary Hall.
  • 31:35So together Max another member.
  • 31:36We are interviewing the
  • 31:38teens and parents here,
  • 31:40so some of these are really
  • 31:42preliminary data that we analyze.
  • 31:44But we help us to guide our further
  • 31:47future direction on where to look at.
  • 31:50So when we asked participants about fat.
  • 31:53Family harmony means to them during covid.
  • 31:57They were able to identify that
  • 32:00they were able to gain a new
  • 32:03sense of agency with their family.
  • 32:06They spend more time together
  • 32:08feeling that staying safe from Covid,
  • 32:11the unspoken care and peace and quiet.
  • 32:14Those are the terms that they
  • 32:17identify for family harmony.
  • 32:19And as we are talking about cross cultural,
  • 32:23family, people identify communication,
  • 32:24language barrier, both verbal and nonverbal.
  • 32:27Mean a lot to them and also lack of
  • 32:31expressing feeling so many of the
  • 32:34teens wish they could have a better
  • 32:37conversation with their parents,
  • 32:40with more talking about their feelings
  • 32:42and interesting Lee about the conflict,
  • 32:45we asked some of the participants to
  • 32:47bring in an object that can symbolize
  • 32:51what family harmony during COVID-19
  • 32:53this particular participant bring in
  • 32:56bubble wrap the package bubble wrap.
  • 32:59To represent if you don't touch them,
  • 33:02nothing happened.
  • 33:02If you do a pop and explode,
  • 33:05so there's some.
  • 33:06They identify the boundary issue that some
  • 33:09amplify some pre-existing issue there,
  • 33:12so this is like some data.
  • 33:14So far we gather, so stay tuned.
  • 33:17We'll be able to show more
  • 33:19results and conclusion later on.
  • 33:21Now we also have our peer support
  • 33:24arm some chat together member
  • 33:26and I serve as a consultant.
  • 33:29And peer support through the New Haven
  • 33:32local community will collaborate with
  • 33:35Yell China Department of Public Health
  • 33:38starting pretty much since March this year.
  • 33:41So this is one of the event we had
  • 33:45for Asian and Asian American students.
  • 33:48Don't let fear be contagious for
  • 33:51covid event and we also have more
  • 33:54event collaboration with China.
  • 33:57Yellow Asian American Cultural Center,
  • 33:59particularly for Asian
  • 34:01international community.
  • 34:02And address the anti Asian
  • 34:04discrimination during Covid and in
  • 34:07fact next week I'm holding another event
  • 34:10for Chinese international student at Yale
  • 34:13for for the reopening for 4th semester.
  • 34:16One thing that I learn. We have a very
  • 34:21unique population here in New Haven.
  • 34:24The Asian International community,
  • 34:26in which they really experience covid twice.
  • 34:29One when they had the family back in in
  • 34:34China. They have experienced kovid and
  • 34:36they also have another covert experience.
  • 34:38When I went to Spike in US all of the time,
  • 34:42they were separated from family
  • 34:44and they were also several.
  • 34:46Alot of visa issue.
  • 34:48They were forced to go back home or did
  • 34:51decide to stay in the US and even if
  • 34:54they decide to go back home now they're
  • 34:57taking their online classes like 2:00 AM
  • 35:00in the morning so so they really suffer
  • 35:04a really unique set of vulnerability there.
  • 35:07So Lastly,
  • 35:08we have a collaboration arm.
  • 35:11I am call collaborating with
  • 35:13this gentleman here.
  • 35:15His name is Jeremy Hunt who is a
  • 35:18filmmaker in Hong Kong but also
  • 35:22a yellow China Exchange Fellow.
  • 35:24So here and I collaborate
  • 35:27on a really cool project.
  • 35:30We try to look at digital storytelling
  • 35:33from school age teens to report.
  • 35:36Express the pandemic experiences so when we
  • 35:40create high school teens between 13 to 18,
  • 35:43about 70 of them,
  • 35:45they mostly are from Hong Kong
  • 35:48and New Haven public school,
  • 35:50but they also we also expand to
  • 35:53other countries as well so we have
  • 35:56them write a story on daily routine.
  • 36:00During COVID-19 we breakdown the
  • 36:02story into a small component
  • 36:04an with Jeremy filmmaking.
  • 36:06Variance he teach them how to create a
  • 36:09corresponding shot to describe the story,
  • 36:11then editing the video and have them put
  • 36:14them on the log of the written essay there.
  • 36:17So the goal of this project is
  • 36:19to really how to how to help the
  • 36:22children use the camera lens to
  • 36:25show the view of the kovit world,
  • 36:27and as you view from the video
  • 36:29in which I will show you guys,
  • 36:32as you view the video,
  • 36:34you would go into the child's mind
  • 36:36and how to see the view discover.
  • 36:39Well there an my role would be
  • 36:42helping them for self reflection.
  • 36:45How did creating and showing the
  • 36:48film would affect the way how
  • 36:50they see the pandemic?
  • 36:52Some of the respond here said it felt
  • 36:55more we leaving since you get to tell
  • 36:58people about certain issues encountered,
  • 37:01another was spun.
  • 37:02It prompt me to keep asking myself what
  • 37:05makes life interesting while staying at home.
  • 37:08I guess we're all asking this
  • 37:11question to other respond.
  • 37:12This is the people make up humanity.
  • 37:15In society,
  • 37:16we should be grateful for
  • 37:18everything in our life,
  • 37:20even the little thing.
  • 37:22Now the second part of this project
  • 37:25is to have the Hong Kong student
  • 37:28and then New Haven student to swap
  • 37:30the video and trying to mental
  • 37:33eyes of each other video.
  • 37:34What is that person is going
  • 37:37through during COVID-19?
  • 37:38Now keep in mind that this
  • 37:40student they don't know
  • 37:42each other. They're growing up
  • 37:44in a very different places.
  • 37:46Perhaps they speak English,
  • 37:48but they may be like talking
  • 37:50different native language,
  • 37:51eating different type of food.
  • 37:53You know, you know very different background.
  • 37:57We are going to help them to
  • 37:59have a we flip here reflection
  • 38:01there in the way to train them
  • 38:03to have this foster this idea.
  • 38:06Intercultural empathy.
  • 38:06So we go going to ask them how do
  • 38:10you think the film makers feeling
  • 38:13when they're making the movie?
  • 38:15Some of the response at Happy
  • 38:18content she is trying to show
  • 38:20that regardless of location,
  • 38:21this is still lucky to have a
  • 38:24wide range of activity to do and
  • 38:27a loving family to support her.
  • 38:30Another respond sad about what
  • 38:32is happening to people,
  • 38:34how everything has changes, so little time.
  • 38:38Sad, but not all.
  • 38:40There is so much commotion revolving
  • 38:42around lockdown that we tend to forget
  • 38:45the little thing and be grateful for them.
  • 38:48So this other respond and I want
  • 38:51to take the chance to show some
  • 38:54of these wonderful video here.
  • 38:56K.
  • 39:02OK, so this is created by the New Haven
  • 39:05student. I be home school experience.
  • 39:10Alright, so my whole school experience.
  • 39:13Even sleep in a mic.
  • 39:15I get up around 8:00 or 9 depending
  • 39:17how I'm feeling then asserted day,
  • 39:20but brushing my teeth and make sure
  • 39:22things clean. Attica 15 minutes.
  • 39:24Running my brother then minutes as
  • 39:27I get home I take a deep shower.
  • 39:30Once I'm done with everything after
  • 39:32working on a school assignment that
  • 39:35sometimes include zoom meetings.
  • 39:37This takes 3 hours depending
  • 39:39on which classes I have.
  • 39:40If I have mouth, it takes 2 hours
  • 39:43or less because I love my wife.
  • 39:46A few moments later.
  • 39:49It's hard to believe how much things
  • 39:52have changed since the pandemic
  • 39:55has opened many people's eyes.
  • 39:57Many, including myself, have rulers.
  • 40:00How? O we were grateful to the
  • 40:02little things in our lives.
  • 40:05Anti socials are missing the crowds.
  • 40:07The students are missing the schools
  • 40:10they used to complain about every day.
  • 40:13Some are even saying maybe it was worth it
  • 40:18waking up in the morning 'cause the bus.
  • 40:21Many people are craving
  • 40:23to come back to society.
  • 40:25Is the crowd the festivals?
  • 40:26The concerns determine spent to hang
  • 40:29out with your friends at the mall.
  • 40:32It's the people.
  • 40:34They make up humanity in society.
  • 40:38Of harnessed Lee learned a
  • 40:40lot during this intense time,
  • 40:42but most importantly African,
  • 40:44that we should always be grateful
  • 40:46for everything in our lives,
  • 40:48even the little things the loves.
  • 40:50Every vent your counter, your freedom,
  • 40:52your health trees family.
  • 40:54I mean everything,
  • 40:55because everything has his hand.
  • 41:04OK, so the second video
  • 41:06is created by Donovan.
  • 41:08He is a student from Hong Kong.
  • 41:11My daily routine just pay up.
  • 41:14Pay attention.
  • 41:15Donovan intentionally change
  • 41:16his voice and the video.
  • 41:18Perhaps some defense mechanism will see.
  • 41:23When I'm done then I'll just tell
  • 41:25you what I usually do during Clinton.
  • 41:28I live in apartment in Happy Valley.
  • 41:30I love my parents.
  • 41:31Another system I enjoyed the lock down
  • 41:34for the first month and I'm just bored.
  • 41:36Days of Week 613 Live past seven.
  • 41:40So I have around 20
  • 41:42minutes to prepare myself.
  • 41:44I change my clothes,
  • 41:46brush my teeth and eat some breakfast.
  • 41:50My dad would drive me to school
  • 41:53and I would have lessons as usual,
  • 41:57then at break and lunch
  • 41:59I'll go play football field,
  • 42:02my friends and after pad 5 I'll go home.
  • 42:08I need three sets in secondaries.
  • 42:11It's all changed.
  • 42:18Can you delete? Those are usually wake up
  • 42:21at 8:10 and would get on my laptop and
  • 42:24then my bed and wait till class starts.
  • 42:28After two time I get finally get on my
  • 42:31bed and brush my teeth and eat some toast.
  • 42:41Right after school I would have
  • 42:43soon after school classes that user
  • 42:46and find Cape Town application.
  • 42:50I'm a weekend out with an island 10:30.
  • 42:53Fun Saturday without my piano lessons
  • 42:56at 2:30 for one hour and at 6:30
  • 42:59out on Michelle lesson till 7:30.
  • 43:01Then I would spend my Sundays
  • 43:05in bed on my phone.
  • 43:08Those kind of hard keep tracking
  • 43:09of all the homework and make sure
  • 43:11everything was handed in after
  • 43:13I've been able to adjust the online
  • 43:15schooling was pretty relaxing.
  • 43:16A lot of people say that they
  • 43:18wanted to go back to school,
  • 43:20but I do miss my friends.
  • 43:22I wouldn't mind having them on line
  • 43:24class for another month or two,
  • 43:25so hopefully there will be no
  • 43:27more cases under lockdown will be
  • 43:29lifted so that we can go back to
  • 43:31our normal walk through teams.
  • 43:36What is the song keep playing?
  • 43:42OK, so those are the video.
  • 43:47Let's go back to the slide.
  • 43:54Alright, so in summary chat
  • 43:57together we are bridging the gaps.
  • 44:01We are approaching the child parents
  • 44:04operative gap in minority family.
  • 44:06We are bridging the gaps that are amplified
  • 44:11by COVID-19 as we are using this kit to,
  • 44:14you know talk about a lot of the issue during
  • 44:18COVID-19 Black Live Matters LGBTQ Anmore.
  • 44:22Those are many issue that amplify
  • 44:25during COVID-19 we are bridging
  • 44:28the gap across the globe.
  • 44:30We had planned to expand on the
  • 44:34digitized storytelling program there.
  • 44:36Now, instead of dividing shaming to
  • 44:39address our differences, chat together,
  • 44:42Pomo intercultural empathy as a way
  • 44:45to respect and embrace each other's
  • 44:48uniqueness through words scared and images.
  • 44:51This is also a program unique in a way that
  • 44:56we incorporate our action where we can cope.
  • 45:01And we construct unspoken trauma among us.
  • 45:05Now, this is some future vision that we have.
  • 45:10We want to educate,
  • 45:12intercultural empathy,
  • 45:14anti prejudice, anti racism,
  • 45:16through chat together interactive theater.
  • 45:18We want to expand this model to medical
  • 45:22education for the next generation of
  • 45:25doctors including medical student trainees,
  • 45:29an clinicians.
  • 45:30This could be a community outreach
  • 45:33program for school educator parents.
  • 45:36And school age children now think about
  • 45:39how we want to sustain this organization.
  • 45:42Expanding from Co-op style to potential
  • 45:45fundraising campaign school based
  • 45:47fund and non profit organisations.
  • 45:50So these are some future vision that we have.
  • 45:55And Lastly,
  • 45:56I want to acknowledge and thank you everyone.
  • 45:59This is a growing list of chat
  • 46:02together family that we're getting so
  • 46:04close together throughout this time.
  • 46:07Perhaps because of the Co-op organization
  • 46:09we are all leaders, doers and thinkers.
  • 46:12We keep expanding and we invite
  • 46:15everyone here.
  • 46:16If you'd like to join us to know
  • 46:19more about it we all y'all.
  • 46:22Welcome as I introduce along the talk.
  • 46:26We have Allen, Griffey, Herman, Hannah,
  • 46:29Cara, Max Michel, nearly Ramey, Vanessa.
  • 46:33We are all located at different parts of
  • 46:38the state and also internationally too.
  • 46:43We want to say a big thank you
  • 46:47for all the chat together,
  • 46:50advisor from the Solar Integrated Program.
  • 46:53It gives me so much support, encouragement,
  • 46:56believe and seeing me beyond myself.
  • 46:59Thank you all, doctor, Andre Martin,
  • 47:02Janet Madigan, Michael Caplan,
  • 47:04Dorothy stupid microblog,
  • 47:06James Blackmon,
  • 47:07Baltra bar and also to external
  • 47:10advisor from Stanford.
  • 47:11Doctor Steve Sadan Doctor Rona Hill.
  • 47:14In which they started a vignette
  • 47:17program and Stanford and really
  • 47:19helped me to bring this model and
  • 47:22expand even bigger in the East Coast.
  • 47:24So thank you all for that and we
  • 47:27have chat together collaborators.
  • 47:29As I mentioned from Stanford Jeremy Hunt,
  • 47:32who did the digital Storytelling store
  • 47:35program and also Jessica Hanief from Yale,
  • 47:37China collaboration.
  • 47:38Juliana E.
  • 47:39Who is the director of Yell
  • 47:41Asian American Cultural Center.
  • 47:43We have a lot of Wellness program.
  • 47:46For the Asian American student,
  • 47:48there, Libby Pier director of
  • 47:50Health and Wellness from choke,
  • 47:51and we have a lot of trucks
  • 47:54Tilden on this talk as well.
  • 47:56So welcome,
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