2024 YCCI Multidisciplinary Pre-Doctoral & Post-Doctoral Training Programs Applicant Information Webinar

Transcript

• 00:00Good morning everyone.
• 00:02My name is Lloyd Cantly and the other person
• 00:07helping run this is Christine Costantino,
• 00:10and this webinar is basically to help
• 00:14you understand the options available for
• 00:17applying for either a pre doctoral or
• 00:22postdoctoral training grant through YCCI.
• 00:24So I'm going to give you a very
• 00:27brief little bit of background.
• 00:29So YCC I I back a long time ago,
• 00:33almost 20 years ago now,
• 00:35obtained grant funding from
• 00:36one of the NIH institutes,
• 00:38the NCATS to support training
• 00:42of pre doctoral and postdoctoral
• 00:45and junior faculty and clinical
• 00:47and translational research.
• 00:49And as part of that funding we created
• 00:54these two specific training programs that
• 00:58can be applied for by people here at Yale,
• 01:01one for postdoctoral trainees be
• 01:04they MD or PhD and one for pre
• 01:08doctoral trainees again MD or PhD.
• 01:10And so we're going to just give you
• 01:12a little bit of the nuts and bolts of
• 01:14how those programs look and what you
• 01:16might need to know and to consider
• 01:18whether you want to apply or not.
• 01:22And so this is our agenda for the meeting.
• 01:26We're going to describe the team,
• 01:28what the two training programs are
• 01:31and the eligibility requirements.
• 01:34There are some areas of special emphasis
• 01:36that we'll talk about briefly and then
• 01:39Christine's going to talk to you about
• 01:41the specific application process.
• 01:46So this is our YCCI education team.
• 01:50So I'm Lloyd, Jen Edelman,
• 01:54who is also a professor of medicine.
• 01:56And Eugene OR Jean Shapiro,
• 01:58who's a professor in Pediatrics and
• 02:01infectious disease are the three Co
• 02:03directors of this educational program
• 02:05that overseas the pre doctoral,
• 02:07postdoctoral and junior
• 02:09faculty training programs.
• 02:11And then Christine is the person
• 02:13who actually knows what's going on.
• 02:14The three of us say a lot of
• 02:16stuff and blow a lot of smoke,
• 02:17but Christine actually has all
• 02:19the the true details of what
• 02:21happens and how it happens.
• 02:22So she'll she's the main point person
• 02:24really for these applications.
• 02:30So these these two training programs
• 02:33that were designed around between
• 02:382010 and 2016 specifically for pre
• 02:41doctor and post doctoral trainees,
• 02:43they're two separate applications.
• 02:45If you're a postdoc, you apply for
• 02:47the postdoctoral training program.
• 02:48If they're if you're a pre doc,
• 02:49you apply for the pre doctoral
• 02:51training program.
• 02:52But based on our funding for this,
• 02:55which is do Ncats, these really require
• 02:592 components to be viable applications.
• 03:03One is that the research you're proposing
• 03:06and your career goal should be aligned
• 03:10with clinical and translational types
• 03:13of research focused on a human problem.
• 03:17Now when we say translational research,
• 03:20that really has a broad definition.
• 03:23So, for example,
• 03:25someone in my lab who might
• 03:28be doing mouse work,
• 03:29but it's mouse work that's defined
• 03:32around a gene mutation that's
• 03:34involved in kidney disease in humans.
• 03:37That would be seen as translational
• 03:40research because it's research applied to
• 03:43a specific problem that affects humans.
• 03:46So it doesn't mean you have to
• 03:48be working with human samples to
• 03:49apply for this for these awards.
• 03:51In other words.
• 03:53And the second piece,
• 03:54besides the fact that they need to be
• 03:57clinical or translational types of research,
• 03:59is that there's a strong emphasis on
• 04:02the training being multidisciplinary
• 04:05for both of these programs.
• 04:06And what that basically means is
• 04:08that if you have a primary mentor
• 04:10who is in a particular department
• 04:13and has a particular focus and
• 04:15particular type of research,
• 04:16we strongly encourage the applicants
• 04:18for this program to have a secondary
• 04:21mentor who's in a different
• 04:23section or department who might.
• 04:25So for example might be a
• 04:27biostatistician who would help you
• 04:29with understanding how you use
• 04:31statistical approaches to analyze
• 04:33clinical data that might be an example.
• 04:36So a single mentor that's
• 04:39focused on A1 particular area,
• 04:41those type of applications tend not to
• 04:44be scored as highly for these programs
• 04:46as those that are multidisciplinary
• 04:49and often these involve team research
• 04:50where you may have two or three
• 04:53different mentors involved in helping
• 04:55you develop a multidisciplinary team.
• 04:58The awards are for one year,
• 05:01but you can apply for a second year.
• 05:03It requires a a new application.
• 05:06We're in the process of discussing
• 05:09right now the potential for having a
• 05:11two year award for the postdoctoral
• 05:15slots rather than just a one year award.
• 05:18But as of this year,
• 05:19it's a one year award.
• 05:21You would say your science should be
• 05:23describing what you would do in one year.
• 05:26And then if you get the award and
• 05:28you want to apply for a second year,
• 05:29you would go through the application
• 05:32a year from now for that second year.
• 05:34But you would use most of the same materials.
• 05:36But you would have to update it with
• 05:38a few things that we'll talk about
• 05:40with the progress report basically
• 05:41and an updated mentor statement
• 05:43talking about your progress.
• 05:47So trainees who are from groups who
• 05:51are traditionally underrepresented
• 05:52in medical research careers are
• 05:54strongly encouraged to apply.
• 05:56We very much value those applications.
• 05:59We look at them very carefully,
• 06:01and so anyone who comes from
• 06:05one of those backgrounds,
• 06:07we strongly encourage you to
• 06:08contact us if you're questioning
• 06:10whether you should apply and if
• 06:11you are interested in applying,
• 06:13we strongly encourage you to apply.
• 06:16This provides salary support for you,
• 06:20and that salary support includes A
• 06:24stipend for healthcare coverage.
• 06:26If there is money leftover from
• 06:28that healthcare coverage,
• 06:29that typically is not very much because
• 06:32the base the way the NIH sets up the funding.
• 06:35This isn't controlled by us,
• 06:37but if there is a little bit
• 06:38of money leftover,
• 06:38sometimes there'll be 1000 or $1500
• 06:41leftover that can then be used for
• 06:43research types of usage like software
• 06:45that you need for your computer or some
• 06:48reagents that you might need or something.
• 06:51But basically this is not providing
• 06:53you with the money to fund your
• 06:56mice or fund your assay development.
• 06:59It's really for salary and healthcare
• 07:01coverage of the predominant parts of this.
• 07:03As I mentioned,
• 07:04it's funded by Ncats,
• 07:05the National Center for Clinical and
• 07:09Translational Science and this these
• 07:12two programs are specifically funded
• 07:14by our TL1 component of our grant,
• 07:18which is very similar to AT32 actually.
• 07:20And if you are awarded one of
• 07:24these and you accept that award,
• 07:27you are then one of our YCCI scholars.
• 07:30And that comes with a lot of good things,
• 07:33but it also comes with some obligations.
• 07:36And so the obligations are that
• 07:38we have a research in progress
• 07:41meeting twice a month and you'll be
• 07:43expected to participate in that,
• 07:44both attending when you're not presenting,
• 07:46but also once a year presenting in that.
• 07:49Those are the research and progress seminars.
• 07:51There's a summer sessions of scholar
• 07:53orientation that we call rockets and
• 07:55you'll be expected to participate
• 07:57in that and that basically these
• 07:59are useful things to you because
• 08:01they help you improve your skills
• 08:03and your own presentation.
• 08:05The scholar orientation gives you
• 08:07a lot of information about what's
• 08:10available at Yale for your research.
• 08:12There's also the Robert Sherwin All Scholars
• 08:14Day that's going to be coming up in May.
• 08:17That happens once a year and
• 08:18you'll participate in that,
• 08:19present a poster and there are other
• 08:21things that that are described in
• 08:24this that that you'll be expected
• 08:26to participate in as part of being
• 08:27a YCCI scholar.
• 08:33So eligibility for the pre doc,
• 08:35you have to be at Yale as a student
• 08:39at Yale enrolled and in good
• 08:41standing in either the MD program.
• 08:42So this would typically be and we've
• 08:44had many of these, the 5th year.
• 08:46So if you're looking to do,
• 08:48if you're a medical student and you're
• 08:50thinking to do the fifth year of research,
• 08:52this would be a pathway
• 08:55to fund that fifth year.
• 08:57If you're in the MDPHD program
• 09:00and need funding for part of
• 09:02your PhD research training,
• 09:03this would be a way to obtain the
• 09:05year of funding for that and again
• 09:07with potential to get a second year.
• 09:09Or if you're in a PhD program,
• 09:12if you're in the PhD program,
• 09:14you have to have passed your qualifiers
• 09:16to be eligible to be in this program.
• 09:19Oh, sorry, that's in the second line there.
• 09:20Yes, so so you would if you're
• 09:24in one and and this PhD,
• 09:26you could be in the PhD program
• 09:28in biomedical engineering,
• 09:29in public health and it's across multiple
• 09:31schools in the School of Nursing,
• 09:33the School of Medicine.
• 09:35So it's not restricted to
• 09:36the School of Medicine.
• 09:37As long as your mentor and your
• 09:39research is focused on clinical
• 09:41or translational types of
• 09:43research affecting human disease,
• 09:44then you would be eligible to apply.
• 09:48So if you've been on the TL1 two
• 09:52years you are no longer eligible.
• 09:54So you can only get a maximum
• 09:56of two years of support.
• 09:57But as again as I mentioned you
• 10:00would apply for that first year
• 10:02and then apply for a second year.
• 10:04And we are thinking for the
• 10:06future of having potential for
• 10:07a two year application slot.
• 10:09But as of this year,
• 10:10it's a one year you need to be a
• 10:13citizen or a green card holder
• 10:15or non citizen national since
• 10:17these are funded by the the
• 10:19National Institutes of Health.
• 10:23And if you've already had four
• 10:26years of support on the NRSA
• 10:30or similar national funding,
• 10:32you would not be eligible for
• 10:34further funding on this using this.
• 10:39So those are some of the restrictions,
• 10:41and again, this should all be on the website
• 10:47postdocs. You must be at Yale.
• 10:51Doing a postdoctoral training again,
• 10:53in any one of the schools is eligible
• 10:55as long as your research is focused on
• 10:58clinical and translational research.
• 10:59Similarly, if you've already had
• 11:01two years on the TL1 as a postdoc,
• 11:03you would not be eligible for a third year.
• 11:05You have to be AUS citizen,
• 11:07and if you've already received more
• 11:10than two years of support through
• 11:12NIH Postdoctoral Training Grants,
• 11:14you wouldn't be eligible
• 11:16for applying through this
• 11:20so, very similar.
• 11:22Lloyd, we have a question in the chat.
• 11:25What if you expect to pass qualifying
• 11:28exams prior to the start date,
• 11:30but have not yet passed the qualifying exams?
• 11:33But then you would be eligible.
• 11:35You have to, you have to have passed your
• 11:37qualifiers at the time you would start.
• 11:40So assuming that your qualifiers are
• 11:43scheduled to occur before the start date,
• 11:46then you should be eligible
• 11:47as long as you pass them.
• 11:51Great, thanks.
• 11:57So these are areas of special
• 12:01emphasis that we're this is
• 12:04based on the thematic components
• 12:07of the overall CTSA for Yale,
• 12:10of which this TL1 is one piece.
• 12:12There's multiple pieces to the CTSA.
• 12:14It's a much larger grant and so these areas,
• 12:19if your research for example
• 12:22is in HealthEquity,
• 12:24if that's your focus of interest,
• 12:26then those applications will be
• 12:31preferred for topic of interest.
• 12:34We don't actually have a
• 12:36specific scoring mechanism.
• 12:37In other words,
• 12:38we don't change your score on.
• 12:40These are evaluated in a study
• 12:42section approach where they're given
• 12:44to three reviewers to review and
• 12:46those reviewers review them in a
• 12:48very much a study section like very
• 12:50similar to an NIH study section,
• 12:52basically identical.
• 12:53And then based on the scores and
• 12:55the voting of the whole study
• 12:57section each each application
• 12:58is assigned A composite score
• 13:00and they're funded based in on
• 13:02the priority of those scores.
• 13:05But if we have two applications
• 13:07that are close to fundable level
• 13:09and one's on HealthEquity research
• 13:11and one's on something else,
• 13:13that HealthEquity research application
• 13:15is going to get preferred status
• 13:18because that's within the special
• 13:20emphasis of our overall CTSA.
• 13:22SO3 areas that are that are definitely
• 13:28of interest to the CTSA are the
• 13:31promotion of implementation science,
• 13:32community engaged research,
• 13:35HealthEquity research.
• 13:36And we at Yale are very highly
• 13:41interested in increasing our
• 13:43diversity in the the applicant pool
• 13:45of doing translational research.
• 13:47And so these are all areas that we are
• 13:51encouraging strongly people who are
• 13:53doing these types of research to apply.
• 14:01OK, I think, Christine,
• 14:02are you taking this from here?
• 14:04Yes, I'll take this from here.
• 14:07All right. So the application process,
• 14:11as you all know we've released the
• 14:14RFA and application in November.
• 14:16This month we're doing the
• 14:18webinar as you all are here.
• 14:20All of the applications,
• 14:22so pre doc applications and postdoc
• 14:24applications are due on Friday,
• 14:26March 8th, 5:00 PM.
• 14:31From there, I will do the internal
• 14:34review making sure everything is in order
• 14:37before passing them along to our expert
• 14:40faculty to review the applications.
• 14:43And that will happen between March and April.
• 14:47Then we'll have our review meeting in
• 14:52the end of around the end of April.
• 14:55And then in May I'll do just
• 14:58in time requests.
• 15:00Basically,
• 15:01that means we'll make we'll ask
• 15:06for other support information
• 15:11in the case that you have any
• 15:14other grants NIH grants pending
• 15:20because as you may know,
• 15:22you cannot accept more than
• 15:24one NIH grant at the time,
• 15:26but you can have them pending
• 15:29and then we'll do notifications.
• 15:32The early start date for these
• 15:35is June 1st, which is based on
• 15:38our TL1 grant year start date
• 15:44and I'll talk about that in a little bit.
• 15:47And then July is when programming
• 15:49begins for all of our scholars.
• 15:51As Lloyd mentioned, we have our
• 15:55orientation and summer programming
• 15:57and that's when July it'll begin.
• 16:05So as I mentioned, Friday,
• 16:07March 8th is the application due date.
• 16:12The Word document applications
• 16:14for both the pre doctoral and
• 16:17postdoctoral programs are on the
• 16:20respective web pages already.
• 16:24So please be sure to follow
• 16:25the instructions that are
• 16:27listed in the applications.
• 16:28And I just wanted to point
• 16:30out a couple of things here.
• 16:34Those of you who will be reapplying
• 16:37for a second year of support,
• 16:40make sure you include A1 page
• 16:43pre application summary with your
• 16:46describing your previous aims,
• 16:48what has changed, your progress.
• 16:52Your other support document needs to be
• 16:54completed with your business office,
• 16:56so this includes your current grant
• 16:59information and any pending grants.
• 17:01So if you're also applying
• 17:04for an F30F31 AK 99,
• 17:07what have you that needs to be included?
• 17:13Also be sure to read through
• 17:15what needs to be included in
• 17:17your mentor's letters of support,
• 17:20your commitment that they will
• 17:22cover any additional costs.
• 17:25As Lloyd mentioned,
• 17:27the training related expenses is
• 17:30primarily for your healthcare costs.
• 17:34So if you're going to need any additional
• 17:37money to cover research costs,
• 17:42your mentors are likely going
• 17:43to have to cover that for you.
• 17:46And then for those again who are
• 17:48reapplying for a second year,
• 17:50make sure your mentors comment on
• 17:53your progress made during the first
• 17:55year and then finally make sure you
• 17:57use the correct version of the forms.
• 18:00So for the bio sketch that it's
• 18:03the fellowship Bio sketch and the
• 18:05correct version and the correct
• 18:08version of the other support.
• 18:10Christine, there's a question.
• 18:11Yes, I see that.
• 18:14OK Are recipients of these grants
• 18:17considered postdoctoral fellows
• 18:19or postdoctoral associates?
• 18:21Oh, that's a great question, Ruth.
• 18:23First, so your your appointment
• 18:25is determined by your department,
• 18:27whoever hired you, not by us.
• 18:29We fund your salary.
• 18:31But what your appointment title is
• 18:33really comes from whoever has hired you.
• 18:38Yeah, there is.
• 18:43I'm trying to remember which one it is.
• 18:45It there is a requirement that it has to
• 18:48be either the fellow or the associate,
• 18:51and I forget which one it is.
• 18:53Your business office will know the answer.
• 18:59OK, let's see. Next question.
• 19:02What's the difference between the personal
• 19:04statement and the bio sketch and the
• 19:07statement of purpose for the grant?
• 19:11A personal statement in a bio sketch is
• 19:14typically like something about generally
• 19:16about you as a researcher that is not
• 19:19specific to anyone particular grant.
• 19:21The statement of purpose for
• 19:23the grant is what what you're
• 19:24planning to do for that grant,
• 19:26specifically the their The personal
• 19:28statement in your bio sketch is
• 19:31a much more general statement.
• 19:33Typically some people can align them,
• 19:36but that's not always the case.
• 19:43OK,
• 19:45all right, I'm going to move on.
• 19:49OK, so for the Pre Doctoral
• 19:52online submission form,
• 19:54this is a Qualtrics form.
• 19:57You'll complete some basic
• 19:59questions in the beginning.
• 20:00And then you'll upload
• 20:02your application package.
• 20:04Again, everything's included in the Word
• 20:07document that's listed on the web page,
• 20:10but I've outlined it here to
• 20:12give you just an overview,
• 20:14so the abstract half a page,
• 20:18the reapplication summary,
• 20:19if that's applicable to you.
• 20:21Again, this is only for
• 20:23those applying for a second.
• 20:24Here of support is one page,
• 20:27the research plan narrative, 3 pages,
• 20:31references as needed and that's citation
• 20:37references and then statement of purpose,
• 20:392 pages, your bio sketch.
• 20:43And here I put in it's the fellowship
• 20:47version revision October of 2021.
• 20:50Your other support as many pages as needed.
• 20:54Again,
• 20:54it's revision 10/21 and you're
• 20:56going to work with your business
• 20:58office on creating that.
• 21:00And then your letters of support from
• 21:03primary and secondary mentors up to 2 pages.
• 21:06And then at the end there are
• 21:09some basic reporting questions
• 21:12related to the CTSA.
• 21:18So for the post doctoral
• 21:20online submission form,
• 21:21it's basically the same as the pre
• 21:24doctoral with a few additional pieces
• 21:27as part of the application package.
• 21:30So the first eight pieces are the same,
• 21:34and then at the end you have 3 letters
• 21:37of reference to include one page each
• 21:40and a department letter of commitment.
• 21:44That's one page.
• 21:48There's These page limits are the maximum,
• 21:50so it's not that they have to be one page,
• 21:52it's just the longest.
• 21:54And your letters of reference,
• 21:55ideally here, should be.
• 21:57Often people will use whoever
• 21:59their PhD mentor was, for example,
• 22:02or someone who has had familiarity
• 22:05with their research that they've done
• 22:08prior to this particular postdoc,
• 22:12or a collaborator who's had
• 22:14familiarity with their research.
• 22:16This. Typically those are the types
• 22:18of people you use for these letters.
• 22:24OK,
• 22:28OK, now I just put together
• 22:29a couple of do's and don'ts.
• 22:32Do make sure that your mentor
• 22:34mentors review your application.
• 22:37You want to make sure that your application
• 22:39is free of spelling and grammar errors.
• 22:42That's true of your bio sketches as well.
• 22:48If you're going to use acronyms,
• 22:50make sure you write them out the first time.
• 22:53Or better yet, don't use them at all.
• 22:56And be sure to review the RFA
• 22:59and the instructions before
• 23:01you submit your application.
• 23:03And don't forget to include a letter
• 23:06of support for each of your mentors.
• 23:09I will be doing, as I mentioned,
• 23:11the internal review once all
• 23:14of the applications come in,
• 23:16but it it really helps if you
• 23:19make sure that all of these things
• 23:21are in place ahead of time.
• 23:28OK. In terms of the application
• 23:31review process, as Lloyd mentioned,
• 23:35the reviewers will be evaluating
• 23:39your applications on the applicant.
• 23:43You, the applicant yourself,
• 23:45the mentoring plan, innovation,
• 23:47significance and approach of your research,
• 23:51commitment to multidisciplinary science.
• 23:55And then if you are applying related to
• 24:00one of the areas of special emphasis,
• 24:03diversity, HealthEquity,
• 24:04research, Community, Engage,
• 24:06research or implementation science.
• 24:09OK, I see we have a couple of questions.
• 24:16What is the best way to include our
• 24:19unpublished data within the three
• 24:21page limit for the research plan?
• 24:24Do figures count towards
• 24:25the three page limit?
• 24:30Lloyd, you're muted.
• 24:33Thank you. This is typically
• 24:36your preliminary results.
• 24:38So basically you start out with your,
• 24:41what your specific aims are going to
• 24:44be some background and then you provide
• 24:47if you have at the preliminary data
• 24:50that you have that's going to support
• 24:53how you're developing your aims.
• 24:55And so that's where you show your
• 24:57preliminary data and figures.
• 24:58And yes, they count.
• 25:01So if you've published something,
• 25:03you can reference that publication.
• 25:05And but even there,
• 25:07if there's a critical figure in that
• 25:10publication that really cements for
• 25:13a reviewer that you have valid data,
• 25:17that supports why you've chosen
• 25:18to go a certain direction.
• 25:20And with your specific aims,
• 25:21you should show it in the grant,
• 25:23because reviewers are not required
• 25:26to read all of your citations,
• 25:29so they don't have to go pull
• 25:32that paper and read it.
• 25:34So you would.
• 25:34And this is all, all this is standard NIH,
• 25:36it's exactly the way the NIH does it.
• 25:38So if you have some key
• 25:40data that's going to that,
• 25:42you're that's the foundation of why
• 25:44you're taking the direction you're taking.
• 25:46That should be in your preliminary results.
• 25:48And if there are figures
• 25:49that make that clear,
• 25:50that's the easiest way to show it typically.
• 25:55OK And another question is the personal
• 25:58statement in the bio sketch where
• 26:00we mentioned how we're involved in
• 26:03diversity and translational research.
• 26:05If not, do we mention that anywhere
• 26:08in the written portion of the grant?
• 26:11So there are questions that you will
• 26:14answer in the online application
• 26:17itself where you will note this.
• 26:20So there'll be a question related to
• 26:23areas of special emphasis where you
• 26:25will check off whether you're where,
• 26:28whether you are applying to one
• 26:31of those areas.
• 26:32If does that answer the question?
• 26:34Well,
• 26:35I and so I would add to that.
• 26:36So Christine's absolutely correct.
• 26:38But I would add to that if you have a strong
• 26:45focus on any of the areas of special
• 26:48emphasis, those can be mentioned
• 26:50in your personal statement on
• 26:52your CV but or your buyer sketch.
• 26:55But that's not the critical place
• 26:57that those should really be in
• 26:59your statement of purpose because
• 27:01those relate directly to this
• 27:04application as opposed to just kind
• 27:06of your general the buyer sketch,
• 27:08like I said is more of a general thing.
• 27:11Jane Doe began her research career
• 27:15when she was an undergraduate at
• 27:17such and such and did such and such
• 27:20and she has remained focused on it.
• 27:22It it's kind of a general overview
• 27:25of your life as a researcher,
• 27:28whereas for this particular grant that
• 27:29we have these special emphasis areas.
• 27:32So if you believe that your background
• 27:35or your proposal is aligns with
• 27:37one of these special emphasis area
• 27:39that that would go in that two
• 27:41page statement of purpose part.
• 27:45Yeah, I guess it should also be
• 27:49noted that related to diversity
• 27:52and health related research,
• 27:55there are a couple of different ways
• 28:00you can I guess qualify for that,
• 28:03so to speak. And it's,
• 28:05it's outlined in the online application
• 28:09and there are questions related to that
• 28:12and there's an NIH statement and link.
• 28:17So it's related to ethnicity, race,
• 28:23background and what's the 4th one disability.
• 28:31So there'll be questions
• 28:33related to that as well,
• 28:35but they're completely anonymous and
• 28:38if you don't want to answer them,
• 28:40you can check off a box that says withheld.
• 28:45So just a little bit of background on that.
• 28:48Yeah. So this. Yeah.
• 28:50So this is a good example of the
• 28:53difference between an application,
• 28:54the application and the review.
• 28:56So again, as as Christine just said,
• 28:58all those things are specifically there.
• 29:01But weaving that information into
• 29:03that statement is what the where
• 29:06the reviewer really sees it and
• 29:09that's where they understand that
• 29:13this has an importance to you and
• 29:17your and importance to your research
• 29:19career and your training career.
• 29:22And that's.
• 29:22So I think that's where it will
• 29:24have the biggest impact from
• 29:25the standpoint of how the review
• 29:27goes as opposed to having checked
• 29:29all the appropriate boxes,
• 29:30which has to happen as well.
• 29:32I get it,
• 29:33But I'm just telling you that
• 29:35a lot of this comes down to the
• 29:36review and the reviewers really
• 29:37going to see it mostly.
• 29:38But then that statement.
• 29:41Yeah, I should also mention that
• 29:44the demographic information that
• 29:45you check off on the application
• 29:48is not seen by the reviewers.
• 29:49The reviewer doesn't see that. Correct.
• 29:55OK. So in terms of the award notification,
• 30:01our goal is to notify all applicants
• 30:03by just of decisions by May.
• 30:06As I mentioned earlier,
• 30:08our earliest start date will be June 1st,
• 30:11coincide with the start of our grant year.
• 30:13We can accommodate July one for
• 30:17start dates as that's our fiscal
• 30:20year start date for the university
• 30:23and we do have some flexibility
• 30:25to accommodate later start dates
• 30:28for folks who are on grants that
• 30:30might be ending a little bit later.
• 30:35OK, That's all we have for our presentation.
• 30:40Are there other questions?
• 30:43And feel free to unmute yourselves
• 30:45of you when I just ask the question,
• 31:03oh, OK, here's a question. Can you have
• 31:05mentors from outside of Yale? Yes,
• 31:09your your primary mentor
• 31:10needs to be a Yale mentor.
• 31:12But having secondary mentors
• 31:14that are outside of Yale is
• 31:16definitely acceptable and that's
• 31:18been that's not uncommon actually,
• 31:20especially if you're if you're
• 31:22working in a particularly niche area
• 31:25or a unique particular expertise.
• 31:28And the best expertise for that
• 31:30is someone at UCSD or somewhere
• 31:32else and there's a you have
• 31:35a connection to that person.
• 31:38Absolutely.
• 31:38And we recognize that in the
• 31:40world of Zoom that those kinds of
• 31:43things can work fairly seamlessly.
• 31:45What I would be cautious about is
• 31:47identifying someone that you don't
• 31:50actually have an existing interaction
• 31:52with and getting them to be a
• 31:54mentor when there's really not a
• 31:56history of you having interactions
• 31:58with them that it looks a little
• 32:01bit too much like grantsmanship,
• 32:03but not like a viable model for
• 32:06someone to be effectively mentored.
• 32:08But it's not uncommon to have someone
• 32:11as a mentor somewhere else who
• 32:13will interact with your committee,
• 32:15will interact with your primary mentor,
• 32:17will interact with you on a regular basis,
• 32:19and there's existing reason to believe
• 32:21that that interaction will actually happen.
• 32:27Oh, I'm sorry.
• 32:28I'll add one more thing to that.
• 32:30If it's a technical thing where that
• 32:33mentor is has a particular expertise
• 32:35that you want for your application,
• 32:37for your grant and that expertise
• 32:39is something you have to have
• 32:41hands on experience with.
• 32:42I would strongly encourage you to
• 32:44include in your description that you're
• 32:47planning to go to that site wherever
• 32:50it is and spend X time learning
• 32:53that hands on technical expertise.
• 32:56I've seen some of these applications
• 32:57where people have a mentor
• 32:58and they're at, you know,
• 33:02wherever UT Southwestern and they
• 33:04do something that's very technical,
• 33:07some assay or something,
• 33:09but the person doesn't actually
• 33:11say that they're going to go there.
• 33:13So you you need to spend some time
• 33:15with that person if you're like
• 33:16going to learn technical things with
• 33:17them and that should be mentioned in
• 33:19their letter and in your application.
• 33:24So as a follow up question,
• 33:26can mentors be outside the US and
• 33:29is international research also
• 33:31funded or does research have to
• 33:33be focused on the US population?
• 33:36No. International's perfectly acceptable.
• 33:38You're, as I said, the mentor.
• 33:39Many people will will have a primary
• 33:43Yale mentor, but they'll go off
• 33:46site for the actual research.
• 33:48There's many examples of that. Again,
• 33:51this isn't funding the actual research,
• 33:55it's funding your salary to do that research.
• 33:59So the funding for the actual research
• 34:02then obviously has to come from your
• 34:04mentor through some other source.
• 34:09And another question that came to me,
• 34:12can you have concurrent NIH
• 34:14funding for separate aims?
• 34:16For example F31 for one dissertation
• 34:19aim and the YCCI for another aim
• 34:27and I'm pretty sure the answer's no.
• 34:30But you have to you have to provide
• 34:3275% time on this so I don't,
• 34:38I think if it's non overlapping names,
• 34:40I think you're allowed to be have
• 34:43partial funding from something else.
• 34:44Whether it's NIH or not, I don't know.
• 34:47I don't think you can have more
• 34:50than one NIH grant at a time for
• 34:54these particular training grants.
• 34:56Yeah, because we've had folks with
• 35:01an F30 or F31 and they haven't
• 35:05been able to have the T31 as well
• 35:08or sorry, the TL1 as well.
• 35:11Yeah, I don't think you can
• 35:12have those concurrently, no.
• 35:14But whether you could, you
• 35:17can apply for both and have
• 35:18both pending at the same time,
• 35:21but you can't accept both. That's correct.
• 35:24So that's why we ask for the other
• 35:26support document, so that we know if
• 35:29you have another NIH grant pending.
• 35:36All right.
• 35:39Do we have other questions?
• 35:45I think we've answered all of the
• 35:47ones I've seen in the chat so far.
• 35:56All right. So you guys can obviously
• 35:59e-mail Christine or myself or
• 36:01Jean or Jen. Remember, Jean Shapiro
• 36:03and Jen Edelman are the other 2P is.
• 36:07And if you have other questions come to you,
• 36:10Christine typically has the
• 36:12most detailed information about
• 36:13the specific process of this.
• 36:15But if you have more general questions,
• 36:17you're welcome to e-mail any of us.
• 36:21All right. Well, thank you all
• 36:24for spending your morning with us.