Information Session for Yale/Stanford Global Health Scholars Program 2022 - Arizona
October 25, 2023Information
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- 00:00I went to to Chinle as part of the
- 00:04one of the Indian Health Service
- 00:07sites on the Navajo reservation
- 00:10and and just really loved it.
- 00:11It was definitely my my favorite
- 00:14experience of of residency.
- 00:16So just a little bit of background
- 00:17information, The Navajo Nation,
- 00:19it's actually the largest federally
- 00:21recognized land based tribe in the US
- 00:24It's about the size of West Virginia.
- 00:26They also I've also often heard the
- 00:28size of New England minus Maine.
- 00:31So pretty, pretty large area and a lot
- 00:35of people within the Navajo Nation,
- 00:38most of whom actually live on
- 00:40the reservation still.
- 00:42And just to the right here I
- 00:43have a a a whole Garn which
- 00:45is a traditional Navajo home.
- 00:47And this is just a model,
- 00:48not not typically how they look these days,
- 00:50but still built in that same style.
- 00:54The Navajo people call themselves the Denay,
- 00:56which literally translates to the people.
- 01:00It's a little different society than
- 01:02the than other parts of the US it's
- 01:05a matriarchal society meaning that
- 01:07inheritance things like sheep and land
- 01:10and everything are passed down through
- 01:13through the the woman's side of the
- 01:15family or the mom's side of the family.
- 01:17And they,
- 01:18they all live quite spread apart on
- 01:20which you'll become really familiar
- 01:21with if you rotate here within camps.
- 01:24So there's kind of family camps where
- 01:26there'll be an area with like grandma
- 01:28and grandpa up here and then all of their
- 01:32kids and grandkids live right nearby.
- 01:34But then it'll be miles between
- 01:36that place and another another,
- 01:38another area.
- 01:39But because of that,
- 01:41because they are so dispersed,
- 01:43there's several areas where there's
- 01:45just not running water or electricity
- 01:47or if there is they depend on on the
- 01:50solar power alone for their electricity.
- 01:52Not not a lot of infrastructure,
- 01:56the economy,
- 01:56a lot of people commute to actually
- 01:59get around to or to to work.
- 02:02But then sheep as historically a huge
- 02:06part of their economy has has obviously
- 02:08become less so over over the years.
- 02:10But it's still an important culture
- 02:13and historical aspect of their their
- 02:16society and their their government
- 02:18is not too dissimilar from ours.
- 02:20They're they're broken up into chapters
- 02:22and then have a tribal council and a
- 02:25president over the the Navajo Nation.
- 02:27So I I was specifically in Chinle
- 02:30which is a town of about four to 5000
- 02:33people and it's on a on a plateau.
- 02:35And so it was actually I went
- 02:37in the late winter,
- 02:38it was February and March and actually
- 02:40got snow I think two or three times.
- 02:42And and so it's not quite the
- 02:45like hot desert that you picture
- 02:47usually with Arizona here is just
- 02:50an aerial view of Chinley.
- 02:51And I'll just highlight
- 02:53here's where actually the,
- 02:55the Chinley service unit,
- 02:56the hospital and the clinics
- 02:57were located over here.
- 02:59Here's the rest of the town over here.
- 03:03And so the the health service
- 03:05unit itself actually served
- 03:06a quite large catchment area,
- 03:08about 40,000 people and had a a pretty robust
- 03:12amount of services that they could offer.
- 03:14So Pediatrics, family medicine,
- 03:16Women's Health, internal medicine,
- 03:18this didn't happen every week,
- 03:20but nephrology and dermatology also would
- 03:23come periodically and set up clinics there.
- 03:26I'll get into in a second.
- 03:27There's a fracture clinic which I I
- 03:29really loved and then their Ed had a
- 03:32six bed Ed for high acuity patients
- 03:34and then there was an attached urgent
- 03:37care for some of the lower acuity more yeah,
- 03:41like stitches or stitches removal
- 03:43that type of that type of care.
- 03:46The inpatient side was about 25 beds,
- 03:504 MCU beds.
- 03:51But interestingly they didn't have
- 03:53any hemodialysis capabilities
- 03:55or Cath lab capabilities.
- 03:57So a lot of times they'd have to go from
- 04:00the Ed and and be on a helicopter or
- 04:03a plane to be sent out to other other
- 04:05health centers that did offer those services.
- 04:09Some cases that I thought highlighted well,
- 04:11some of the experiences I had there,
- 04:13I really saw so much
- 04:15different type of pathology.
- 04:17But but one thing I would wanted
- 04:19to highlight is really excellent
- 04:20primary care that they have there.
- 04:22And so here's just one example
- 04:24of a patient I saw.
- 04:25She had an A1C of 8.4 coming
- 04:28for diabetes follow up.
- 04:30She had a continuous glucose monitor
- 04:32and what amazed me was the the monitor
- 04:35itself was kind of malfunctioning.
- 04:36So they just went,
- 04:37grabbed another one, brought it to her.
- 04:39You can imagine in our clinics how
- 04:41hard it is to get something like
- 04:42that for patients, takes weeks.
- 04:44And this patient was getting a
- 04:46replacement one right there for free.
- 04:48And it's because of the the services
- 04:50that that part of Indian health
- 04:52services that they can offer because
- 04:54diabetes is so prevalent there that
- 04:56there's just a lot of resources
- 04:58poured into treating diabetes.
- 05:00So she got her new glucose monitor.
- 05:02They printed off her whole report
- 05:04of the the past few weeks of her
- 05:06sugars went over that with her with
- 05:09the diabetes educator and they
- 05:11have a robust formulary.
- 05:12You know similar to Medicaid,
- 05:13can offer similar amounts of
- 05:16different different types of first
- 05:18line medications for diabetes.
- 05:19So if you're interested in
- 05:21getting better at diabetes care,
- 05:22this is a great place to to learn.
- 05:26Another case that I saw in the the
- 05:29inpatient side was a middle-aged man.
- 05:31He had acute poste articular arthritis,
- 05:34had a significant work up.
- 05:36They tapped the joint looking for
- 05:39for gout or septic arthritis and
- 05:42quite a large work up and it was
- 05:43cool getting to you know see that
- 05:46you know first hand and not not
- 05:48after they were boarding in the
- 05:49Ed for a certain amount of time.
- 05:51It was more of a fresh case that
- 05:53came up came up to us ended up being
- 05:56what was likely reactive arthritis.
- 05:58The other cool thing I'll mention
- 06:00here is the the inpatient doctors
- 06:02also staff the at the clinic.
- 06:04So they were able just to see
- 06:06him in clinic the next day and that
- 06:08continuity was preserved quite well.
- 06:11Fracture clinic which is
- 06:12I thought was super cool,
- 06:13it's actually staffed by some family
- 06:16medicine doctors and some Med PEDs
- 06:19doctors and they essentially have when
- 06:21you get there they'll have a a book
- 06:23on you know management of fractures
- 06:25for for primary care physicians.
- 06:27So I got to do things I never imagined
- 06:30I'd do an internal medicine residency
- 06:32like helping with casting of a forearm
- 06:35fracture and then managing something
- 06:38like a non displaced metatarsal fracture.
- 06:41You know, normally I would have just
- 06:43referred that patient directly to
- 06:45Ortho or sent them even to the Ed.
- 06:47But here they actually had some some
- 06:49education and resources to be able to
- 06:52take care for those patients themselves,
- 06:53which I thought was a really useful tool
- 06:56that I'll I'll certainly use in when I
- 06:58met a primary care doctor in the future.
- 07:01And then the Ed probably where I saw
- 07:04that the most pathology helped reduce
- 07:06a a dislocated shoulder had a case
- 07:09of severe metabolic acidosis that
- 07:12was concerning for toxic alcohol use
- 07:14given the frequency of of alcohol
- 07:16use disorder there.
- 07:17We had started from mepazole.
- 07:18So a lot of just really interesting
- 07:20cases and that are coming in fresh,
- 07:23right.
- 07:23They're not,
- 07:24they're not things that that have been
- 07:28like off in the inpatient side at
- 07:29some of our hospitals where they're,
- 07:31they're boarding in the Ed for some time.
- 07:36So I'm just going back to this map here.
- 07:39I'm just going to talk
- 07:40about where where I stayed.
- 07:41So kind of back here just behind the
- 07:43hospital, there's a row of houses where
- 07:45they they provided housing for us.
- 07:48And here's the house that I stayed
- 07:50in was really really well equipped,
- 07:52had furniture, multiple bathrooms,
- 07:54had a fully equipped kitchen.
- 07:57And then just behind the house
- 07:59probably a few minutes walk is
- 08:00this this beautiful Mesa up here.
- 08:02And you could look out and see the
- 08:04whole city and and look out into the
- 08:06Canyon de Che which is one of the
- 08:08the kind of highlights of of Chinle
- 08:10just about a 5 or 10 minute drive.
- 08:12And here's just one of the pictures
- 08:14that I took just really beautiful slot
- 08:17canyons and with with ruins from prior
- 08:21indigenous peoples that that lived there.
- 08:23So lots of fun things to go explore.
- 08:26Here's another picture of a arch that
- 08:28was about a 15 minute drive from
- 08:31from the house and the hospital.
- 08:32So they give you they give you
- 08:34time to go explore as well.
- 08:36But you're not missing out on on great
- 08:38pathology because you basically see
- 08:40see excellent cases every time you're
- 08:42you're in clinic or the hospital.
- 08:46So I I'll leave it at that.
- 08:48I I'm sorry I can't stay for the
- 08:49end for question and answers.
- 08:50I'm actually heading off to a job
- 08:52interview in in just a moment but
- 08:54I'll leave this up for a second.
- 08:55Here's my e-mail address
- 08:56or my cell phone number.
- 08:58I love talking about Chinle,
- 08:59so feel free to just just
- 09:01reach out to me anytime.