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"Understanding the Link Between PCOS and OSA" Yvonne Chu (04.07.2021)

April 18, 2021

"Understanding the Link Between PCOS and OSA" Yvonne Chu (04.07.2021)

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  • 00:19I am Lauren Tobias and I'd
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  • 01:16Hilbert to introduce today's speaker,
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  • 01:21about the talk for next week.
  • 01:23It's one of our joint Yale Harvard
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  • 01:29who is a persistent professor of
  • 01:31neurology at Boston Children's
  • 01:32Hospital and Harvard Medical School.
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  • 01:40so please plan to join us for that next week.
  • 01:44And with that,
  • 01:45I'll turn it over to Doctor Hilbert.
  • 01:48OK, thank you doctor Tobias.
  • 01:49So it is my pleasure to
  • 01:52introduce Doctor Yvonne Chu,
  • 01:53our speaker for today.
  • 01:55Doctor Chu is a postdoctoral fellow
  • 01:57in Sleep Medicine here at Yale.
  • 01:59She did her undergraduate work
  • 02:01at Cornell University and she
  • 02:03received her MD degree from U Conn.
  • 02:06She completed her internal medicine
  • 02:08residency at Boston Medical
  • 02:10Center and then she stayed on in
  • 02:12Boston for another two years at
  • 02:14BOS at Brigham and Women's where
  • 02:16she investigated the genetic and
  • 02:18molecular aspects of cell migration.
  • 02:21She then came back to Connecticut Ann.
  • 02:23She wasn't attending hospitalist at Yale.
  • 02:25New Haven Hospital for the next few years.
  • 02:28We were very fortunate to have her
  • 02:30match with us and sleep and not only
  • 02:32has she been a superb clinical fellow,
  • 02:35she's really contributed to the
  • 02:37sleep program and she's been
  • 02:38very productive academically.
  • 02:39She leads a quality improvement team,
  • 02:41really focused on improving the process
  • 02:43of care for our pregnant patients,
  • 02:45who will refer to us at the
  • 02:48sleep center and as part of that,
  • 02:50she surveyed Obi-wan practitioners.
  • 02:52Throughout the region regarding
  • 02:54their screening practices in their
  • 02:55knowledge base and that work,
  • 02:57she's going to be presenting at the
  • 02:59research meeting in April as well
  • 03:02as at the sleep Meeting in June.
  • 03:04She also authored a manuscript
  • 03:05on obstructive sleep apnea and
  • 03:07polycystic ovary syndrome.
  • 03:08That's been very well received.
  • 03:10So today she's going to be
  • 03:12discussing understanding the link
  • 03:13between obstructive sleep apnea
  • 03:15and polycystic ovarian syndrome.
  • 03:16So welcome Doctor Chu.
  • 03:19Thank you for that introduction.
  • 03:21Doctor Helbert welcome and
  • 03:22good afternoon everyone.
  • 03:23My talk today is on understanding the
  • 03:26link between obstructive sleep apnea
  • 03:28and polycystic ovarian syndrome.
  • 03:30Before we begin,
  • 03:31just a couple of housekeeping flies.
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  • 03:46So here are the learning objectives.
  • 03:48By the end of this hour,
  • 03:50my hope is for the audience to be able
  • 03:52to recognize the clinical presentation,
  • 03:54diagnosis and complications of PCOS.
  • 03:56Describe the prevalence
  • 03:57of comorbid OSA and PCOS.
  • 03:59Discuss the role of ***
  • 04:01hormones in regulating,
  • 04:02breathing,
  • 04:03and to understand how this regulation
  • 04:06of these hormones may play a role in
  • 04:09the pathogenesis of OSA and PCOS.
  • 04:11To understand how insulin resistance
  • 04:13is a shared feature of these two
  • 04:16disorders and finally to understand
  • 04:18how treatment may modulate
  • 04:20the outcomes of OSA in PCOS.
  • 04:23So I want us to think back and
  • 04:25I'm sure we can all recall a case
  • 04:27in which we saw a young woman
  • 04:29with PCOS present for evaluation
  • 04:31of sleep disordered breathing.
  • 04:32I will share with you a case I
  • 04:35saw during the first couple of
  • 04:37weeks of my fellowship.
  • 04:39Let's give our patient the name SK.
  • 04:42She's a 38 year old woman who
  • 04:45presented with snoring for 20 years and
  • 04:48recently worsened after a £15 weight gain.
  • 04:50Also with symptoms of gassing awakenings,
  • 04:53excessive daytime sleepiness with
  • 04:55an effort score of 10 nocturia,
  • 04:57and morning headaches.
  • 04:58Her past medical history includes
  • 05:00class 3 obesity,
  • 05:02PCOS that was diagnosed at age 15 and
  • 05:05has been untreated as well as depression.
  • 05:09Esskay physical exam was notable for an
  • 05:11elevated systolic blood pressure 131,
  • 05:14elevated BMI of 46.5 and in large
  • 05:17neck circumference of 19 1/2 inches
  • 05:19as well as amount party of three.
  • 05:22The remainder of her exam was unremarkable.
  • 05:26Eskape Labs were notable for mild
  • 05:30transaminated elevated total cholesterol.
  • 05:32Would decrease HDL,
  • 05:33increases LDL and increase
  • 05:35triglycerides her a one see was also
  • 05:38increased in the pre diabetic range.
  • 05:40The rest of her labs including
  • 05:44her serum bicarbonate were normal.
  • 05:47Given the high pretest probability
  • 05:48for OSA SK underwent home sleep apnea
  • 05:51testing and this is her hypnogram.
  • 05:53At the bottom,
  • 05:54we can see she slept mostly on
  • 05:56her right and left sides.
  • 05:58This is consistent with her
  • 06:00preference to avoid back sleeping.
  • 06:03There were clusters of obstructive
  • 06:05apneas in red here.
  • 06:06As well as Hypotony is here in pink.
  • 06:09On the top we can see associated
  • 06:12the saturation.
  • 06:13Her respiratory event Index
  • 06:15came out to be 66 an hour,
  • 06:17which is consistent with severe
  • 06:19OSA along with a mean sad of
  • 06:2292% and nature of 73%.
  • 06:25Here's a closer view in a four
  • 06:28minute window we see classic back
  • 06:30to back obstructive respiratory
  • 06:32events with associated cyclic.
  • 06:34See saturation and heart rate variability.
  • 06:38There is snoring scene in between
  • 06:40the apneas and hypoxemia and during
  • 06:42her recovery breath her oxygen
  • 06:44saturation largely recovered
  • 06:46back up to the mid 90s.
  • 06:50Our impression was that SK at 38
  • 06:53year old woman has severe OSA as
  • 06:55supported by her symptoms of snoring,
  • 06:58gasping awakenings,
  • 06:59nocturia morning headaches,
  • 07:00and excessive daytime sleepiness.
  • 07:02Along with comorbid depression,
  • 07:04an elevated blood pressure.
  • 07:06And supported by her physical exam.
  • 07:09Findings of the increased BMI in large
  • 07:11neck circumference in a crowded airway.
  • 07:14Anne supported by laboratory findings
  • 07:16of insulin resistance and metabolic
  • 07:17syndrome and then trans ammonite.
  • 07:19If that was suggestive of possible
  • 07:21non alcoholic fatty liver disease.
  • 07:23And finally this is confirmed with the
  • 07:26home sleep apnea test with an REI of 66.
  • 07:33Now, being a new fellow in training at
  • 07:36the time, I didn't think much about the
  • 07:39patients PCOS that ending I was working
  • 07:41with ask me what role does PCOS play?
  • 07:44How does this support the diagnosis
  • 07:46of OSA and how do we explain her
  • 07:49various metabolic derangements
  • 07:50in light of her PCOS an OSA?
  • 07:53This led me to consider what is the
  • 07:57relationship between OSA and PCOS.
  • 08:00We will begin by discussing
  • 08:02the clinical presentation,
  • 08:03diagnosis and comorbidities of PCOS.
  • 08:07PCOS is common with a strong
  • 08:10genetic predisposition.
  • 08:11It was first described in 1935 by
  • 08:13sign in Leventhal as a condition of
  • 08:17oligo operation and hyperandrogenism.
  • 08:19Most it is the most common endocrinopathy
  • 08:23affecting 7 to 13% of women internationally.
  • 08:28Twin studies suggest strong familial
  • 08:31contribution in PCOS development and this
  • 08:33comes from data in over 1300 identical
  • 08:35Twins and their Singleton siblings.
  • 08:38Essentially,
  • 08:38it's one of the identical Twins has
  • 08:42PCOS or other twin is about twice
  • 08:45as likely to have PCOS compared
  • 08:47to their Singleton siblings.
  • 08:50I'm going genetic studies are examining
  • 08:52the specific genes involved in the
  • 08:55biosynthesis and metabolism of androgens,
  • 08:57pelicula, Genesis and secretion,
  • 08:59and action of insulin.
  • 09:02The broader dam criteria is the
  • 09:04most inclusive and preferred
  • 09:06diagnostic criteria for PCOS.
  • 09:08This chart here shows the three most
  • 09:11popular criteria used in the diagnosis
  • 09:13of PCOS and they're to Rotterdam,
  • 09:15NIH and androgen access criteria.
  • 09:19The main features of PCOS are outlined here.
  • 09:22They are clinical or biochemical
  • 09:24evidence of hyperandrogenism,
  • 09:26oligo, menorrhea,
  • 09:27and polycystic ovaries on ultrasound.
  • 09:30I will go through each of these in
  • 09:31detail in the subsequent slides here.
  • 09:33I just want you to know that you
  • 09:35can have a combination of any two
  • 09:37of two out of these three features
  • 09:39to make the diagnosis of PCOS
  • 09:41using the Rotterdam criteria.
  • 09:43Now several of my upcoming slides will
  • 09:45be referring to recommendations based on
  • 09:48international evidence based guidelines
  • 09:49for the assessment and management of PCOS.
  • 09:52It was published in 1920 eighteen.
  • 09:55Among the experts is that on this
  • 09:57committee are the American Society
  • 09:59for Reproductive Medicine and American
  • 10:01Pediatric Society Endocrine Society.
  • 10:03Now,
  • 10:03here are their standardized goods used
  • 10:05to indicate the societies grade for the
  • 10:08recommendations here from one to four,
  • 10:10with four being a strong recommendation
  • 10:13in terms of the quality of evidence we
  • 10:15see from 4 to one here with four here
  • 10:19up there indicating very confident
  • 10:21in the level of of the evidence.
  • 10:25The first of the three key features
  • 10:28of PCOS hyperandrogenism,
  • 10:29which can be determined clinically
  • 10:31or biochemically clinically.
  • 10:32We can look for hirsutism,
  • 10:34acne, male pattern, hair log,
  • 10:36and this is the strong recommendation.
  • 10:39Biochemically, we can use Calculator,
  • 10:41free testosterone or the free androgen index,
  • 10:44which is the total testosterone
  • 10:45levels divided by this,
  • 10:47the *** hormone binding globulin,
  • 10:49and this also has a strong recommendation,
  • 10:52but limited competence is level of evidence.
  • 10:55Standardized visual scales are
  • 10:57preferred when assessing hirsutism,
  • 10:58and this is what a strong
  • 11:00recommendation here is.
  • 11:01The Fehrman Galway score,
  • 11:03which was first introduced in 1961.
  • 11:05Each of the nine body areas
  • 11:07is most sensitive to androgen,
  • 11:09is assigned a score from 0 being know
  • 11:12her to floor, being lost, a pair,
  • 11:14a score of 1 to 7 indicates focal
  • 11:17hirsutism and is considered normal.
  • 11:19Ace score of eight or more is
  • 11:22considered generalized hirsutism.
  • 11:23Ann is considered abnormal.
  • 11:24It is important to note there are racial
  • 11:28considerations when using this score.
  • 11:30East Asian women have lower her citizen
  • 11:32score cutoff whereas Middle Eastern,
  • 11:34Hispanic and Mediterranean women have
  • 11:36slightly higher hirsutism score cutoff.
  • 11:39The next key feature is a
  • 11:41legal menorrhea or amenorrhea.
  • 11:43All common area is irregular
  • 11:45menstrual cycle and an International
  • 11:47Society most strongly recommends
  • 11:48the use of this following criteria.
  • 11:51A regular menstrual cycles are
  • 11:52considered normal in the first
  • 11:54year post monarchy as part of the
  • 11:56pooper role transition between
  • 11:57one to three years post monarchy.
  • 11:59Less than 21 days or greater than
  • 12:0145 days is consider a regular
  • 12:03beyond three years post menarche
  • 12:05all the way up to Perry Menopause.
  • 12:08Less than 21 days or prison 35 days
  • 12:10or less than eight cycles per year
  • 12:12is considered a regular and then
  • 12:14beyond the first year post meta arkie
  • 12:17greater than 90 days for anyone
  • 12:19cycle considering regular and then.
  • 12:21Primary amenorrhea by age 15 or no
  • 12:24menses by beyond three years post the Larkey,
  • 12:27is considered amenorrhea.
  • 12:29And when menstrual cycles are irregular,
  • 12:32a diagnosis of PCOS should be considered,
  • 12:35and this is what is strong recommendation.
  • 12:39The last core feature here
  • 12:41is polycystic ovaries.
  • 12:42Which on ultrasound can support
  • 12:46diagnosis of PCOS.
  • 12:48In patients already with a legal
  • 12:50memory and hyperandrogenism,
  • 12:51an ovarian ultrasound is not necessary.
  • 12:54Ultrasound should not be used
  • 12:56for PCOS diagnosis.
  • 12:58If lesson 8 years have
  • 13:00elapsed after men are key.
  • 13:02When typically the ovaries can
  • 13:05demonstrate multi Poly tools and
  • 13:07that that's common and normal.
  • 13:10To make the diagnosis of polycystic ovaries,
  • 13:12ultrasound will show bears and 20
  • 13:15follicles or an ovarian volume gear
  • 13:17is greater than or equal to 10 Mills.
  • 13:20Here are pictures of what Paula cystic
  • 13:22ovaries may look like on ultrasound.
  • 13:24Some of us may remember from medical
  • 13:26school that is sometimes referred to
  • 13:28as a string of pearls appearance.
  • 13:30And for comparison,
  • 13:31we have here a cystic ovary and
  • 13:33normal ovary with two antral
  • 13:35follicles and one dominant follicle.
  • 13:39Now, numerous comorbidities
  • 13:40have been identified and PCOS,
  • 13:42but the following ones recognized
  • 13:45by the International Society.
  • 13:46They include type 2 diabetes,
  • 13:48gestational diabetes,
  • 13:49and impaired fasting glucose
  • 13:51will be city depression,
  • 13:53anxiety, body image distress,
  • 13:54a question of cardiovascular disease,
  • 13:57as this is supported by limited data.
  • 14:00OSA an enemy treil cancer.
  • 14:02As you can see, some of these
  • 14:05disorders are considered comorbidities.
  • 14:07As with OSA as well.
  • 14:10We now move on to discuss the
  • 14:13prevalence of comorbid OSA in PCOS.
  • 14:16Just to remind everyone,
  • 14:17the prevalence of OSA increases
  • 14:19as women get older and heavier,
  • 14:22and this is supported by data from the
  • 14:25famous Wisconsin Sleep Cohort from
  • 14:27between the years of 1988 and 2011.
  • 14:30This is the logic tunele study of over
  • 14:341500 participants between the ages of
  • 14:3630 to 60s selected from a Mail in survey.
  • 14:3945% of the participants were females.
  • 14:41The table here shows modeling data on
  • 14:44aging and weight increase overtime.
  • 14:46OSA is defined by an hi greater
  • 14:49than equal to 5.
  • 14:52In the 30 to 49 age group,
  • 14:55estimated prevalence of OSA is
  • 14:571.4% in women with normal BMI and
  • 15:00we see this estimated prevalence
  • 15:01increase all the way up to 43%.
  • 15:04In those who have class 3 obesity,
  • 15:07and among the 50 to 70 age group,
  • 15:10estimated prevalence range from
  • 15:129% in those are normal BMI all
  • 15:14the way up to 68% in those women
  • 15:17with the Class 3 obesity.
  • 15:22Now we look at women with PCOS
  • 15:24in a meta analysis of 17 studies
  • 15:28with over 600 participants.
  • 15:30The prevalence bull essay in PCOS is 35%
  • 15:33with a confidence interval of 22 to 49%.
  • 15:37Now it's important to remember that these
  • 15:40studies typically included teenagers
  • 15:42and excluded post menopausal women.
  • 15:44Therefore the prevalence may seem lower
  • 15:46compared to Wisconsin cohort data,
  • 15:48which represents women across
  • 15:50the entire lifespan.
  • 15:52Problem OSA is higher in obese
  • 15:55women compared to lean women with
  • 15:58PCOS and the odds ratio is 3.8.
  • 16:01Now what is very important to know
  • 16:03is that after controlling for BMI.
  • 16:06The risk for OSA is 5 to 10
  • 16:09times higher in adults with PCOS
  • 16:12compared to those without PCOS.
  • 16:16Again, I cannot emphasize enough that
  • 16:19obesity is not the sole driver in the
  • 16:23pathophysiology of OSA and PCOS population.
  • 16:25Now, this study here actually found
  • 16:28that HIV is higher in PCOS after
  • 16:31controlling for age and obesity.
  • 16:34It's a case control study and there were 36
  • 16:37participants have had PCOS and half do not.
  • 16:39Table one shows that they were
  • 16:41of similar age in the early 30s.
  • 16:44And have exact same mean BMI of 36.9.
  • 16:49Now obviously the waist to hip
  • 16:51ratio and testosterone levels are
  • 16:53significantly higher in the PCOS Group,
  • 16:55as we would expect.
  • 17:00Table 2 here summarizes
  • 17:01sleepiness and PSG data.
  • 17:03It shows that the PCOS PCOS group
  • 17:07has significantly higher mean
  • 17:09upward score of 9.5 would arrange
  • 17:11between 4 to 18 compared to an
  • 17:14average of 5.8 in the control group.
  • 17:17The overall HI is significantly
  • 17:20high under PCOS Group.
  • 17:22With the average age of 22 range of 1
  • 17:26to 102 compared to an average of 6.7.
  • 17:30In the control group,
  • 17:31this is a remarkable finding,
  • 17:33considering that none of these women had
  • 17:35been diagnosis OSA prior to the study.
  • 17:40These next two slides,
  • 17:41or these next two studies here,
  • 17:43are highlighted to show that common sleep
  • 17:46complaints in PCOS include insomnia
  • 17:48and excessive daytime sleepiness.
  • 17:50Both are community based studies comparing
  • 17:53women with PCOS and women without PCOS.
  • 17:56Women with PCOS had increased difficulty
  • 17:59falling asleep with an odds ratio close
  • 18:01to two increase awakening without causing
  • 18:04an inability to resume sleep for greater
  • 18:06than 15 minutes within office ratio.
  • 18:09Also close to two.
  • 18:11Increased severe tiredness with their
  • 18:13relative risk ratio 11.5 and increases
  • 18:16sleep difficulties within the last 12
  • 18:18months when an author show close to 1.3.
  • 18:21The authors concluded that targeted
  • 18:24screening and management of sleep
  • 18:26disturbances is warranted in PCOS.
  • 18:29Now, according to the
  • 18:30International Committee on PCOS,
  • 18:32creating for OSA in PCOS is recommended.
  • 18:36Their statements are US outlined here.
  • 18:38Screening should only be
  • 18:39considered for all I stay in PCOS.
  • 18:42Identify and alleviate related
  • 18:43symptoms such as snoring,
  • 18:45waking,
  • 18:45unrefreshing sleep,
  • 18:46daytime sleepiness and the potential for
  • 18:48fatigue to contribute to mood disorders.
  • 18:51And this is with a strong recommendation.
  • 18:53Screening should not be considered with
  • 18:55the intention of improving cardiometabolic
  • 18:57risk with the with inadequate evidence
  • 19:00for metabolic benefits of OSA.
  • 19:01Treatment in PCOS.
  • 19:02Also, with a strong recommendation.
  • 19:04Lastly, a simple screening questionnaire.
  • 19:06Preferably, the Berlin tool,
  • 19:08could be applied.
  • 19:09It is positive referral to
  • 19:11a specialist considered,
  • 19:12and that's with a conditional recommendation,
  • 19:14as currently there is not yet a
  • 19:17screening tool validated in young
  • 19:19women with and without PCOS.
  • 19:21Disappointingly, in practice,
  • 19:23screening rate is low.
  • 19:25Perhaps this is due to the fact
  • 19:27that there is little or no research
  • 19:29on specific screening tools in
  • 19:30the PCOS population.
  • 19:31And this is the only study I found
  • 19:34in regards to screening in the
  • 19:36study of 50OBGYN and 29 endocrine
  • 19:39practitioners caring for PCOS patients.
  • 19:4237% reported that most of their
  • 19:44patients had that Class 3 obesity.
  • 19:4686% felt that their patients Nordin
  • 19:49frequently and 92% refers less than
  • 19:5125% of their patients for sleep study,
  • 19:54and so to summarize and minority
  • 19:57applied practitioners who treat
  • 19:58PCOS are referring a minority of
  • 20:01their patients for sleep evaluation.
  • 20:03Despite the high prevalence of
  • 20:04OSA in patients with PCOS,
  • 20:06the lack of awareness of the
  • 20:08link between PCOS and OSA may.
  • 20:10It may also be a potential reason
  • 20:12for the low rates of referral.
  • 20:17We now move on to the key theories
  • 20:19on the pathogenesis of OSA and PCOS.
  • 20:22The purpose of this slide is to show what
  • 20:25is known about the pathogenesis of PCOS.
  • 20:28The main theory is that there is a
  • 20:31disruption in GNRH release from the
  • 20:33hypothalamus which leads to hyper secretion
  • 20:36of LH from the pituitary gland resulting
  • 20:39in an increase in the LH FSH ratio.
  • 20:42This induces abula Tori dysfunction.
  • 20:44Repeat a follicular arrested.
  • 20:46What results in the polycystic ovary
  • 20:49morphology we see on ultrasound?
  • 20:51The increase in LH to FSH also promotes the
  • 20:55hypersecretion of androgens and theca cells,
  • 20:58which in turn reduces the inhibition
  • 21:01of normal GNRH pulse frequency by
  • 21:04progesterone and further promoting
  • 21:06this development of PCOS.
  • 21:08What is not shown here is that there's
  • 21:11also an increased level of anti malarian
  • 21:13hormone released in the follicles of PCOS,
  • 21:16and that leads to reduce FSH
  • 21:18sensitivity and blocks the conversion
  • 21:20of androgens to estrogens,
  • 21:22resulting in reduced overall estrogen levels.
  • 21:26It will resistance arising from separate
  • 21:28pathways that we will discuss later on.
  • 21:31Also contribute to Abula Tori dysfunction.
  • 21:36We will now segue into discussing
  • 21:39the role of *** hormones in
  • 21:41controlling breathing in normal women.
  • 21:42Without PCOS, there's a balance
  • 21:44between female hormones and male
  • 21:46hormones on the one side we are.
  • 21:48We have the female hormones
  • 21:50estrogen and progesterone,
  • 21:51which are protective in
  • 21:52the development of OSA.
  • 21:53On the other side are male
  • 21:56hormones or androgens,
  • 21:57among which include testosterone,
  • 21:58which may promote the development of OSA.
  • 22:01In PCOS we have a deficiency of
  • 22:03female hormones and an excess of
  • 22:06male hormones causing an imbalance.
  • 22:07We no longer have the protective
  • 22:09effects of female hormones and at
  • 22:12the same time there is an excess
  • 22:13of androgens when they which may
  • 22:15promote development of OFA in the next
  • 22:18several slides we will dive into the
  • 22:21implications of this hormonal imbalance.
  • 22:24We will start by talking about progesterone.
  • 22:27Much of the research comes from
  • 22:29studying the normal luteal phase in
  • 22:31women where there is a surge and peak
  • 22:33of progesterone activity which is
  • 22:36associated with increased upper airway.
  • 22:38Dilatory muscle activity reduce
  • 22:40upper airway resistance and
  • 22:42improved nocturnal ventilation.
  • 22:43And just as a reminder,
  • 22:45as you see here in the diagram,
  • 22:48the normal,
  • 22:48normal luteal phase occurs after ovulation,
  • 22:51or the rupture of the follicules.
  • 22:53What's left behind at the follicules
  • 22:55becomes the corpus luteum.
  • 22:56The corpus luteum is responsible
  • 22:58for the release of progesterone,
  • 23:00which will then stick in the lining
  • 23:02of endometrium preparing for the
  • 23:04implantation of the fertilized egg.
  • 23:06Because operation is impaired in PCOS,
  • 23:09the surge of progesterone does
  • 23:11not occur and overall levels of
  • 23:14progesterone remain low in PCOS.
  • 23:17Four decades ago,
  • 23:18this study came out in Java.
  • 23:21Exogenous progesterone led to
  • 23:23reduce obstructive apneas and
  • 23:25improve daytime sleepiness in OSA.
  • 23:27It was a small study with nine
  • 23:30subjects with only one woman,
  • 23:32an 8 of the subjects had obesity.
  • 23:35Their average age is between 4070.
  • 23:38The intervention was medroxyprogesterone,
  • 23:4160 to 120 milligrams given
  • 23:44daily in divided doses.
  • 23:46The results here showed that
  • 23:47there were four responders for
  • 23:49represented by these building circles.
  • 23:51Among the responders was the
  • 23:53single woman enrolled in the study.
  • 23:56Now the responder shows
  • 23:57significant reduction.
  • 23:58Hi,
  • 23:58as well as improvement in daytime sleepiness,
  • 24:01but that isn't shown here.
  • 24:03The improvement in hi a curd
  • 24:06during the intervention where they
  • 24:08received madocks is progesterone.
  • 24:10This is comparative before they
  • 24:13receive this medication and compared
  • 24:15to after they stopped the medication.
  • 24:18Interesting Lee of note.
  • 24:20The responders at baseline were also
  • 24:23more hypoxemic on their wakeful ABG.
  • 24:25The difference in PA.
  • 24:27CO2 was, however,
  • 24:28NASA tips to assist the Statistique
  • 24:31Lee significant.
  • 24:32The authors also noted that both
  • 24:34responders and non responders showed
  • 24:36improvements in their CO2 and O2
  • 24:38levels during mid Roxy progesterone therapy.
  • 24:40This speaks to the theory that
  • 24:43progesterone may improve ventilation.
  • 24:46We talked about normal menstrual
  • 24:48cycle now will touch touch on
  • 24:50pregnancy and pregnancy.
  • 24:52Progesterone positively correlated
  • 24:53suggest stational age negatively
  • 24:55correlated with maternal weight and
  • 24:58when adjusted for gestational age,
  • 24:59maternal weight bearing,
  • 25:01professional level is significantly
  • 25:04lower in women
  • 25:06with OSA. In menopause,
  • 25:07there's a lot of progesterone and estrogen,
  • 25:10and we all know that the prevalence
  • 25:12of OSA increases post menopause.
  • 25:14This is, however, impacted by other
  • 25:16factors such as age and obesity.
  • 25:19And to perhaps illustrate
  • 25:20this point in one study,
  • 25:23the administration of Luke Bronan healthy
  • 25:25non obese young women to induce medical
  • 25:28menopause did not result in sleep,
  • 25:31fragmentation or clinically
  • 25:33significant sleep disorder breathing.
  • 25:35When we apply when we know
  • 25:37about normal luteal phase.
  • 25:39Pregnancy and menopause.
  • 25:40The PCOS. We know that there are
  • 25:43reduced levels of progesterone,
  • 25:44estrogen, and PCOS.
  • 25:46Therefore, this may predispose women to
  • 25:48have increased upper airway collapsibility
  • 25:51an reduce ventilla Tori drive and
  • 25:54therefore increase the risk for OSA.
  • 25:56We will now discuss and region.
  • 25:59Androgen access is linked to central
  • 26:01adiposity or Apple shaped body type.
  • 26:03We see here.
  • 26:05Studies have shown that 50 to 60%
  • 26:08of women with PCOS have a nap.
  • 26:10Dot abdominal distribution of
  • 26:12body fat or central obesity.
  • 26:14Regardless of their BMI.
  • 26:17Central adiposity contributes to the
  • 26:18pathogenesis and severity of OSA.
  • 26:20Here, in this perspective study,
  • 26:22looking at 36 women recruited
  • 26:24from the sleep setting,
  • 26:25the baseline age was 50s.
  • 26:27BMI is in the low 30s.
  • 26:29In the mean age I was 15.
  • 26:32What was measured was the percentage
  • 26:34of fat and lean body mass in different
  • 26:37regions of the body using dexa.
  • 26:40What was found was that Android or
  • 26:43central distribution of fat was the
  • 26:45best univariate predictor of hi in
  • 26:48women with an R square value of 26%.
  • 26:51These images here were taken from the
  • 26:53publication to demonstrate what was
  • 26:55considered Android versus gynoid fat.
  • 27:00Furthermore, androgens,
  • 27:01androgens and waist to hip ratio positively
  • 27:04correlate with hi women with PCOS.
  • 27:06This data is from this same
  • 27:08case control study I referenced
  • 27:10earlier in the presentation.
  • 27:12Here we're looking at the 18 women
  • 27:15with PCOS and not their control.
  • 27:18The first figure shows a correlation
  • 27:21between waist to hip ratio on
  • 27:24the X axis and hi in the Y axis.
  • 27:26We see a positive correlation
  • 27:29within R = 0.51.
  • 27:31The second figure shows a
  • 27:33positive correlation between
  • 27:34serum total cholesterol serum,
  • 27:35total testosterone,
  • 27:36an AHI with a positive correlation,
  • 27:39R = 0.52. Again,
  • 27:40these graphs only show women with PCOS.
  • 27:43For those of you wondering,
  • 27:45what about the control group?
  • 27:47In this study,
  • 27:48the women without PCOS but but control for
  • 27:52age and BMI well in the control group.
  • 27:55Hi was positively correlated
  • 27:56with waist to hip ratio as well,
  • 27:59and the R value was 0.5.
  • 28:03Which arguably is a stronger correlation,
  • 28:05and we see in the PCOS group.
  • 28:07However,
  • 28:08there was no significant correlation
  • 28:10between serum testosterone
  • 28:11and hi in the control group.
  • 28:13This suggests that there are other
  • 28:16factors contributing to central
  • 28:17obesity besides androgen levels alone,
  • 28:19and one of these factors is
  • 28:21thought to be insulin resistance
  • 28:24and elevated serum glucose levels.
  • 28:26And that is segue into the next
  • 28:29section on metabolic syndrome
  • 28:30and insulin resistance in women
  • 28:32with PCOS and OSA.
  • 28:34Here's a visual to remind us
  • 28:37what metabolic syndrome is.
  • 28:38It consists of high triglycerides,
  • 28:41low HDL, visceral obesity,
  • 28:43insulin resistance and hypertension.
  • 28:46When it was both PCOS and OSA have worse
  • 28:50metabolic profile than women with only PCOS.
  • 28:53In an observation ULL study
  • 28:55of 28 Teen Agers with PCOS.
  • 28:58Those with OSA had increased
  • 29:00metabolic syndrome,
  • 29:01increase insulin resistance,
  • 29:02reduce HDL in increase in triglycerides.
  • 29:05In another observation,
  • 29:06ULL study of 103 teenagers with PCOS.
  • 29:09Those with OSA hat increase
  • 29:11homeostatic model assessment,
  • 29:12which is essentially a method used
  • 29:15to quantify insulin resistance as
  • 29:17well as increase metabolic syndrome.
  • 29:19Now,
  • 29:19both of these studies did
  • 29:22control her BMI an age.
  • 29:27Insulin resistance is a key
  • 29:29feature in both PCOS and OSA.
  • 29:31In this diagram,
  • 29:32we're looking at the pathogenesis
  • 29:34from OSA to insulin resistance.
  • 29:36In Type 2 diabetes,
  • 29:37the two key elements of OSA are
  • 29:39intermittent hypoxia and sleep fragmentation,
  • 29:42and they have been linked to an
  • 29:45increase in inflammatory aside,
  • 29:46a time oxidative stress and the
  • 29:49activation of sympathetic nervous system,
  • 29:51and that all in turn leads to
  • 29:53reduce insulin sensitivity at
  • 29:55the target tissues as well as.
  • 29:57Pancreatic beta cell dysfunction in
  • 29:59the adipose tissue we see increased
  • 30:02by policies increase inflammation,
  • 30:04reduce insulin sensitivity.
  • 30:05In the liver we see increased
  • 30:08glucose production.
  • 30:09The phenotype of non alcoholic fatty
  • 30:12liver disease as well as increased
  • 30:14inflammation in the muscles that
  • 30:17decreases in efficiency of glucose
  • 30:19uptake and then in the pancreas
  • 30:21we see increased beta cells.
  • 30:23Def Simple operation reduces one content
  • 30:25reduce glucose induced insulin secretion.
  • 30:28All of this results in insulin resistance,
  • 30:31glucose intolerance and can potentially
  • 30:33progressed to type 2 diabetes.
  • 30:37Now I move the OSA figure aside
  • 30:40and make room for the PCOS figure.
  • 30:43We talked about earlier.
  • 30:45We can see how untreated OSA
  • 30:47may potentially feed into this
  • 30:49insulin resistance pathway here
  • 30:51that can further perpetuate
  • 30:53abula Tori dysfunction in PCOS.
  • 30:59All right, moving on,
  • 31:00we're going to next talk about the
  • 31:03treatment outcomes of OSA and PCOS.
  • 31:06First, we're going to talk about this study
  • 31:09that tries to answer the question what
  • 31:11are the short term impacts of metformin
  • 31:14on the metabolic and sleep parameters?
  • 31:17This study included 90 adolescent
  • 31:19females between the ages of 12 to 18,
  • 31:22randomized into three groups.
  • 31:23Control, untreated PCOS and
  • 31:25PCOS plus metformin.
  • 31:26The treatment was metformin 850
  • 31:28milligrams twice daily for three months.
  • 31:31Table one here shows the baseline
  • 31:33characteristics of the three groups.
  • 31:35The mean age is similar or about
  • 31:3916 across the board.
  • 31:41The mean BMI was normal at 21 in the
  • 31:44control group and this is significantly
  • 31:47different from the two PCOS group
  • 31:49with the mean BMI of about 35.
  • 31:52Here in here the BMI was not significantly
  • 31:56different between the two PC LF groups.
  • 31:58Now the fasting blood Glucose Tahoma
  • 32:00index again that's the measurement
  • 32:02of insulin resistance and hirsutism
  • 32:04scores were all higher in two PCOS
  • 32:06group compared to the control.
  • 32:08But they were not significantly
  • 32:10different between the two PCOS groups.
  • 32:13Sleep disturbance Scale is a scale
  • 32:15validated in adolescence and children,
  • 32:17and it consists of 26 items
  • 32:19with a score greater than 52,
  • 32:21considered positive for sleep disorders,
  • 32:23the mean score was 48 in the control group.
  • 32:27Alright here and there were 75 in
  • 32:30untreated PCOS soup and 78 in the PCOS.
  • 32:32Plus plus metformin group again.
  • 32:34No significant difference between
  • 32:36the two PCOS groups and both of
  • 32:39these groups have pathologic scores.
  • 32:41And Lastly,
  • 32:42the mean upwards of eight in
  • 32:44the control group and very high,
  • 32:46about 16 in each of the two PCOS group.
  • 32:49Again,
  • 32:50no difference between the two PCOS group.
  • 32:54The results of metformin therapy
  • 32:56were quite remarkable.
  • 32:57Here we see in Table 2 the mean
  • 33:00BMI in the PCOS plus metformin
  • 33:03group decrease in 34 to 26.
  • 33:07After just three months of metformin,
  • 33:09mean body weight was 75 kilograms
  • 33:12pretreatment and is now 57 kilograms,
  • 33:15which is about £40 or 24% weight reduction.
  • 33:19And for comparison,
  • 33:20the untreated PCOS went up slightly from
  • 33:2435 to 36 in their BMI and the control
  • 33:29group BMI basically stayed normal.
  • 33:32The fasting and postprandial glucose,
  • 33:33as well as the home and index all
  • 33:36decreased in the PCOS plus metformin group.
  • 33:39Which was significantly different
  • 33:40compared to the untreated PCOS group.
  • 33:43Hirsutism score.
  • 33:43Also decreasing the PCOS plasma
  • 33:45form a group and download chart.
  • 33:47All these fees here indicates significant
  • 33:50difference compared to untreated group,
  • 33:51whereas at baseline prior to
  • 33:53treatment there was no difference
  • 33:55between these two groups.
  • 33:59Here in table three we see there is a
  • 34:02significant decrease in Epworth score in
  • 34:04the PCOS plus Metformin Group from 16 prior
  • 34:07to treatment to all the way down to 12.
  • 34:10The Edwards is now significantly different
  • 34:13compared to the untreated group.
  • 34:15The sleep disturbance core also decrease,
  • 34:17but it does remain pathologic at above 52.
  • 34:21So, to summarize,
  • 34:23metformin therapy in PCOS reduces BMI,
  • 34:27insulin resistance, hirsutism,
  • 34:28and the Epworth score.
  • 34:33In the prior study,
  • 34:34we saw a weight reduction of 24%
  • 34:37in the metformin treatment arm,
  • 34:38which is a massive change.
  • 34:40What we know is that a weight reduction
  • 34:43of only 5 to 10% have beneficial
  • 34:46results in both OSA and PCOS.
  • 34:48We lost as a primary treatment
  • 34:50in both of these conditions.
  • 34:52In the general population and average
  • 34:54weight loss of 10% of body weight can
  • 34:57result in a modest reduction in Hi Ann
  • 35:00and overall improvement in OSA severity.
  • 35:03And PCOS a weight reduction of
  • 35:055% can restore regular menstrual
  • 35:08cycles and improve fertility.
  • 35:10Other benefits of weight loss include
  • 35:12decreased adipose and androgen levels,
  • 35:15as well as an improvement
  • 35:18in insulin resistance.
  • 35:20Now let's review the current
  • 35:22weight reduction recommendation.
  • 35:23The American Thoracic Fest societies
  • 35:26clinical practice guidelines recommend a
  • 35:28comprehensive weight loss program for OSA.
  • 35:31In all comers with OSA with a
  • 35:34BMI greater than or equal to 25,
  • 35:37a comprehensive lifestyle intervention
  • 35:39program that includes a weight,
  • 35:41reduced calorie diet,
  • 35:42increase physical activity,
  • 35:43and behavioral counseling
  • 35:45is strongly recommended.
  • 35:46And those of OSA,
  • 35:48would it be in my greater than or
  • 35:50equal to 27 but with no improvement?
  • 35:53After a comprehensive weight
  • 35:55loss program and antiobesity
  • 35:56pharmacotherapy is recommended with
  • 35:58the conditional recommendation.
  • 35:59Those with OSA in a BMI greater than
  • 36:02or equal to 35 but no improvement after
  • 36:06comprehensive weight loss program.
  • 36:08Referral for bariatric surgery
  • 36:11evaluation is recommended conditionally.
  • 36:13The international evidence based
  • 36:15guidelines also recommend a comprehensive
  • 36:17weight loss program for PCOS.
  • 36:19Here third, two statements,
  • 36:21healthy lifestyle behaviors
  • 36:23encompassing healthy eating and
  • 36:25regular physical activity should be
  • 36:27recommended in those with PCOS to
  • 36:29achieve an or maintain healthy weight
  • 36:31and to optimize hormonal outcomes.
  • 36:33General Health and quality of
  • 36:35life across the life course with
  • 36:38a strong recommendation.
  • 36:39Lifestyle intervention,
  • 36:40preferably including diet,
  • 36:42exercise and behavioral strategies
  • 36:44should be recommended in those
  • 36:46with PCOS and excess weight
  • 36:48for reductions in weight,
  • 36:50central obesity and insulin resistance,
  • 36:52and this has limited confidence
  • 36:54in the level of evidence.
  • 36:59They don't effective CPAP in
  • 37:01PCOS are extremely limited.
  • 37:03This is one of the only studies to date.
  • 37:06It addresses the question what
  • 37:08are the cardiometabolic effects of
  • 37:11short term C pap therapy in PCOS?
  • 37:13Here the intervention is
  • 37:158 weeks of CPAP therapy.
  • 37:17The measures include metabolic, hormonal,
  • 37:19and cardiovascular assessments at
  • 37:21baseline and after eight weeks of therapy.
  • 37:24The subjects are 56 young women,
  • 37:26young obese women with PCOS recruited
  • 37:29from a University endocrine clinic.
  • 37:31They were excluded if there was
  • 37:33presence of diabetes, hypertension,
  • 37:35or significant cardiovascular disease,
  • 37:37and they must have been off any *** steroids,
  • 37:41anti androgens or insulin lowering
  • 37:43medications for eight weeks
  • 37:45prior to the intervention.
  • 37:4726 of them met,
  • 37:48including criteria which
  • 37:50includes a diagnosis of OSA.
  • 37:517 dropped out among the 19 who
  • 37:54completed this study study.
  • 37:55Only nine were Papa here and.
  • 38:00When we look at just those who
  • 38:02were Papa here and graph A here
  • 38:04shows a fitted regression values of
  • 38:06the change in insulin sensitivity
  • 38:08after CPAP as a function of BMI.
  • 38:10There's a function that CPAP use.
  • 38:13The dark line here represents a line of
  • 38:16fit and the dotted lines represent the
  • 38:1995th percentile constant confidence bands.
  • 38:21Improvement in insulin sensitivity
  • 38:23after C pap is greatest among
  • 38:26women with lower BMI assist here.
  • 38:28Anne was greater with more hours
  • 38:30of CPAP used as we see here.
  • 38:33Graph B shows modeling of change
  • 38:35in insulin sensitivity expected
  • 38:36after four hours,
  • 38:376 hours and 8 hours of sleep apneas per
  • 38:40night in an overly weight patient here
  • 38:43with a BMI of 28 and an obese patient here.
  • 38:46Would it be in my 35 predicted
  • 38:48improvement in insulin sensitivity after
  • 38:50treatment of OSA is more pronounced
  • 38:52with longer hours of C pap used in
  • 38:55a dose dependent manner and is of
  • 38:57lesser magnitude in patients with higher BMI.
  • 38:59Again,
  • 39:00this is all modeling data here on the bottom.
  • 39:05Another significant finding in
  • 39:06this study was that short term pap
  • 39:09therapy reduce norepinephrine levels.
  • 39:11Here we see norepinephrine levels
  • 39:13on the Y axis and the 24 hour day
  • 39:16on the X axis potted along this
  • 39:18continuum is the mean levels of
  • 39:21norepinephrine before an after eight
  • 39:23weeks to see pap therapy.
  • 39:25The Gray bars indicate meals and the
  • 39:28black bar here indicates that I'm in bed.
  • 39:31See PAP treatment resulted
  • 39:33in a 25% reduction.
  • 39:34In the mean 24 hour plasma
  • 39:37norepinephrine levels,
  • 39:38it's interesting to note that affects
  • 39:41extended beyond hours of CPAP use.
  • 39:45I will mention that the authors
  • 39:46did also look at cortisol,
  • 39:48epinephrine, an left in levels,
  • 39:50but there was no significant
  • 39:52changes detected in those levels.
  • 39:56Here the authors show the reduction in
  • 39:58sympathetic activity after CPAP use.
  • 40:00Segments of ECG recordings at these
  • 40:03four time points, dinner, bedtime,
  • 40:05breakfast and lunch or uses markers
  • 40:07of cardiac autonomic function
  • 40:09before and after C PAP treatment.
  • 40:11The authors used spectral analysis
  • 40:13of heart rate variability to
  • 40:15measure autonomic activity.
  • 40:17Here, the high frequency HF means
  • 40:19normalized high frequency band is
  • 40:21essentially a surrogate for vagal
  • 40:23activity or parasympathetic activity.
  • 40:25Bagel activity appears increased faster.
  • 40:27The past few years, as you see here,
  • 40:30the LM is normalized low frequency band,
  • 40:33which is essentially a marker
  • 40:34for sympathetic activity,
  • 40:36and you see that decrease after CPAP use.
  • 40:40The last chart here the L F2 HF ratios
  • 40:44essentially index of cardio symptom.
  • 40:46They go activity and that is
  • 40:50also reduced after CPAP use.
  • 40:53So again,
  • 40:54the pickle method this year is
  • 40:56that pap therapy seems to reduce
  • 40:59sympathetic activity.
  • 41:03And this is the last study
  • 41:04I will highlight because it
  • 41:06addresses an interesting question.
  • 41:07CLOSE PCOS treatment prevent OSA.
  • 41:11In a longitudinal study with peer
  • 41:13she data at baseline and at three
  • 41:16years follow up in 15 adolescent
  • 41:18females with PCOS treated for
  • 41:21hyperandrogenism and insulin resistance.
  • 41:23We see here that.
  • 41:27At baseline or their, their weight
  • 41:29has not changed after three years.
  • 41:32With treatment plan,
  • 41:33it stayed around 32 for BMI and just
  • 41:37just to kind of review that the
  • 41:40treatment looking farther into this
  • 41:43study was actually not standardized.
  • 41:46It included either a comprehensive
  • 41:48lifestyle intervention that only about
  • 41:5150% of the participants took part in
  • 41:53an in a combination of medications.
  • 41:57So I follow up three of the girls
  • 41:59were not on any medications.
  • 42:01Two were taking Ocps,
  • 42:03eight were taking an anti androgen drug
  • 42:05called Diane 35 and one was taking OCP.
  • 42:08Plus metformin was taking Diane
  • 42:0935 plus performance.
  • 42:10So as you can tell there was a
  • 42:12lot of variability into treatment.
  • 42:18So you know I, I just want to
  • 42:20point out here that the weight
  • 42:22and BMI were maintained after all,
  • 42:24as opposed to increase after three years.
  • 42:26And this was attributed to having
  • 42:29some form of treatment for PCOS.
  • 42:31And we don't see a in a significant
  • 42:34difference here in the markers of glucose
  • 42:37fasting glucose or insulin resistance,
  • 42:39but that's perhaps this is the fact that very
  • 42:43few of these teenagers were on metformin.
  • 42:46And then we do see a significant
  • 42:48reduction in free androgen index,
  • 42:50and that's likely because many of them
  • 42:53were on an anti androgen medication.
  • 42:57With treatment Ann the Adolescents
  • 43:00with PCOS had no changes in their AHI,
  • 43:03which was normal and less than one per hour.
  • 43:08At three years follow up as you see here,
  • 43:10along with the other sleep parameters.
  • 43:13I bring up this study because it
  • 43:15suggests that early treatment of PCOS,
  • 43:18particularly treatment that achieves
  • 43:19weight maintenance and a slight
  • 43:21reduction in free androgen index,
  • 43:23may potentially prevent or at
  • 43:25least delay the development of OSA
  • 43:28in an otherwise high risk group.
  • 43:31Now, of course,
  • 43:32this study has its weaknesses.
  • 43:33It was a small study.
  • 43:35The subjects were still quite
  • 43:37young that follow up.
  • 43:38There was no standardized
  • 43:39treatment as I mentioned,
  • 43:41and no comparative data on adolescents.
  • 43:43Untreated PCOS.
  • 43:46So finally back to our
  • 43:48case for our patient SK.
  • 43:50The 38 year old patient with PCOS and OSA.
  • 43:53Our recommendations for her which are in
  • 43:55this shape app with close monitoring.
  • 43:58Aim for five to 10% weight
  • 44:00reduction with referrals.
  • 44:01Weight management clinic.
  • 44:03We encourage the patient to re
  • 44:05establish care for PCOS and discuss
  • 44:07referral between an endocrinologist or
  • 44:09a reproductive specialist and decided
  • 44:12on reproductive specialist because
  • 44:13of her preference achieve fertility.
  • 44:16We also discussed potentially restarting
  • 44:18metformin to assist with weight reduction,
  • 44:20improve sense insulin sensitivity,
  • 44:22and potentially restore her menstrual cycles.
  • 44:27So in summary,
  • 44:28here are the take home bullet points.
  • 44:30OSA has a high prevalence of
  • 44:3235% among women with PCOS,
  • 44:34controlling for BMI.
  • 44:35The risk of OSA is 5 to 10 fold
  • 44:38higher in adults with PCOS
  • 44:41compared to those without PCOS.
  • 44:43*** hormones play a role in the
  • 44:46pathogenesis of OSA in PCOS.
  • 44:49Insulin resistance is a key feature
  • 44:51in both of these conditions.
  • 44:53Metformin may reduce BMI,
  • 44:55insulin resistance,
  • 44:55and net worth C PAP therapy,
  • 44:58or oh for OSA in PCOS may
  • 45:01reduce cardiometabolic risk.
  • 45:02Early treatment of PCOS may
  • 45:05reduce the risk of developing OSA.
  • 45:08I want to end with the comment that
  • 45:10resources only skimmed the surface
  • 45:12on the link between PCOS and OSA.
  • 45:14We still have much more to learn
  • 45:16about the role of *** hormones in the
  • 45:19pathogenesis of OSA into feel less.
  • 45:21It will also be interesting to see
  • 45:23more longitudinal data regarding
  • 45:25the treatment of OSA cinepax in
  • 45:27PCOS as well as the treatment
  • 45:29of PCOS is impacting OSA.
  • 45:31And so hopefully I have accomplished
  • 45:33the learning objectives in this hour
  • 45:35and thank you all for your attention.
  • 45:37I also want to thank all of
  • 45:40the Yale faculty members,
  • 45:41particularly this doctors,
  • 45:42Tobias Hilbert,
  • 45:43and minor for giving me feedback on
  • 45:45my presentation and for Doctor Motion
  • 45:47and for supervising me on the case of SK.
  • 45:50And I will leave you with this image
  • 45:53to remind us about the balance of
  • 45:55*** hormones or just bounds in
  • 45:57general and open the floor for
  • 45:59up for any questions. Thank you.
  • 46:03Thank you man, that was excellent really.
  • 46:05A wonderful, wonderful overview.
  • 46:06So what I would love is if people
  • 46:09would like to either unmute
  • 46:10themselves and ask their questions,
  • 46:12or feel free to put questions in the
  • 46:15chat and I will read them so that
  • 46:18we don't look at them so we have one
  • 46:21question from one of our former fellows.
  • 46:23A great talk.
  • 46:24What is the timeline from developing
  • 46:26PCOS to developing OSA? What do
  • 46:28we know about them?
  • 46:30That's a great question.
  • 46:31So what we know is that. Typically,
  • 46:34women who develop PCOS develop it earlier,
  • 46:38typically soon after their men are key an.
  • 46:42There is typically a lapse of years
  • 46:45later in the studies I found many of
  • 46:50the adolescent studies 3rd to show OSA,
  • 46:53appear in the in the late teens
  • 46:57early 20s and there is definitely
  • 47:00also a component of obesity that.
  • 47:04That of course, the heavier the women,
  • 47:07the more likely to they are to
  • 47:09have OSA at an earlier age in PCOS,
  • 47:13but definitely at a younger age than
  • 47:15compared to the general female population.
  • 47:19Great thank you.
  • 47:20Alright where we have a couple
  • 47:22of outstanding presentations.
  • 47:23Great talk so it's always nice to see those
  • 47:26people don't feel free to ask questions.
  • 47:29You know doctor too.
  • 47:31I was really struck by.
  • 47:34Sort of similar to the to
  • 47:36your pregnancy data.
  • 47:37When you when you serve,
  • 47:38aid OB GY and practitioners here,
  • 47:40you know you presented that data
  • 47:42about practitioners who take care of
  • 47:44these women with PCOS all the time,
  • 47:46but their referral rates for sleep
  • 47:48evaluations seem right, extraordinary low.
  • 47:50And so how do we? How do we change that?
  • 47:53Like what would you?
  • 47:54What would you suggest?
  • 47:56Yeah, that's it. This is a great question,
  • 48:00so I think a large factor in that
  • 48:03is the lack of awareness of the the
  • 48:06link between these two disorders,
  • 48:09especially the lack of awareness.
  • 48:12How early on in life that OSA may
  • 48:15present in in these young out in the
  • 48:19adolescents and young women with PCOS.
  • 48:22So I think you know, to counteract that,
  • 48:25I educational outreach too.
  • 48:27You know, having collaboration between
  • 48:29the sleep providers and endocrinologist,
  • 48:32the reproductive specialist is key.
  • 48:34Really an an as I found out from
  • 48:37also just reaching out to the OBGYN
  • 48:40practitioners on my research with pregnancy.
  • 48:43Alot of them were very open and willing to,
  • 48:47you know, attend any future you know.
  • 48:50Educational session on just learning
  • 48:53about how to screen for OSA.
  • 48:55What symptoms to look for an?
  • 48:58And you know what the treatment benefits are.
  • 49:01They do want to know,
  • 49:02and they're very interested in
  • 49:04any educational opportunities.
  • 49:05Terrific, right?
  • 49:06So it sounds
  • 49:07like it's really up to us as the sleep
  • 49:10practitioners to really help educate and
  • 49:12really teach them what they need to know.
  • 49:14So that's terrific. Let me see.
  • 49:16I'm just saying, oh, go ahead.
  • 49:20Ivan, that was a wonderful twice really
  • 49:22putting it all together nicely with the
  • 49:25scientific background and all the clinical.
  • 49:28So as you all heard is there is a wide open.
  • 49:32Field at investigate.
  • 49:33They buy directional relationship between
  • 49:35this year's and OSA and and I'm sure
  • 49:38it's going to make a huge impact if
  • 49:41you have better understanding of the.
  • 49:44Hormonal variations within PCOS population.
  • 49:46Some of them may not have an actual
  • 49:49increase in androgen levels,
  • 49:52so trying to dissect out who are
  • 49:55within that PCOS group actually
  • 49:58at higher risk of developing OSA
  • 50:00or an or metabolic syndrome.
  • 50:03So maybe either current fellows
  • 50:06or future fellows can actually
  • 50:09get into this and do a kind of a
  • 50:12translational and clinical
  • 50:13correlation type of
  • 50:15research. So it's going to be
  • 50:17very fruitful, kind of the area
  • 50:19to investigate absolutely absolutely.
  • 50:21Yeah, the what we know.
  • 50:23As I've mentioned in one of the slides,
  • 50:26is that a lot of the data we know
  • 50:28on the effect hormones role in PCOS
  • 50:31and OSA development comes from,
  • 50:33you know, studies looking at normal
  • 50:35women's luteal phase, pregnant women.
  • 50:37And so a lot of this. This.
  • 50:40This is still not hashed out in PCOS.
  • 50:43So I think really,
  • 50:44diving in and looking at the role
  • 50:47of *** hormones is important.
  • 50:51Terrific so we have another
  • 50:53question and this again revolves
  • 50:54around treatment and you know this
  • 50:57seems like limited data on C Pap's
  • 50:59obviously to Doctor Most means point
  • 51:01right areas fruitful for research.
  • 51:03But a question of have you come
  • 51:05across any information about the
  • 51:07role of surgical weight loss?
  • 51:08For for individuals who have PCOS and OSA?
  • 51:12Yes, so the current recommendations
  • 51:15in terms of surgical weight loss
  • 51:19from the International Society on
  • 51:22PCOS is is kind of it's conditional.
  • 51:26There is not enough evidence to
  • 51:30show that even bariatric surgery
  • 51:33in PCOS is a strong recommendation
  • 51:36or even a definitive potential
  • 51:39definitive treatment for the.
  • 51:43Hormonal imbalance or insulin
  • 51:45resistance so they they are very,
  • 51:48very cautious in that particular
  • 51:51recommendation and also especially
  • 51:54that a lot of these are young women so.
  • 51:59And obviously,
  • 52:00the weight comprehensive weight loss
  • 52:02program is the initial approach.
  • 52:05With these young women,
  • 52:07and certainly I have not come over
  • 52:11across any evidence regarding
  • 52:13bariatric surgery.
  • 52:15For these two conditions combined.
  • 52:18Great thank you. Thank you.
  • 52:20Alright so I think we have a few more
  • 52:23minutes or maybe one more minute
  • 52:25if anyone has another question.
  • 52:27Ann wants to unmute themselves.
  • 52:29I know we have a conference at three
  • 52:31so I I'm mindful of. Yeah, I yeah,
  • 52:34I'd like to make a very quick comment.
  • 52:37Several years ago when I was still in Canada,
  • 52:40I had a bunch of patients with PCOS and
  • 52:43there was only at the time there was only
  • 52:46one article about it in the literature,
  • 52:48so I submitted my series.
  • 52:50To this Journal to the main Journal
  • 52:53of obstetrics and gynecology and
  • 52:55I got an instantaneous rejection.
  • 52:58And the and the rejection letter said.
  • 53:00And this is a paraphrase.
  • 53:02Our readers have no interest in sleep.
  • 53:05I mean, this is like so, anyway,
  • 53:07so I thought I I sort of throw that in that,
  • 53:12and I think we might still be in that
  • 53:15situation because, as you mentioned,
  • 53:17Janet, we're not getting a whole
  • 53:19lot of referrals from from,
  • 53:21you know, from the gynecologists.
  • 53:23Right, right I.
  • 53:24But you know,
  • 53:25as Doctor Chu mentioned,
  • 53:26you know,
  • 53:27I think that when we approached
  • 53:28them an ask them questions about why
  • 53:30aren't you screening and what are the
  • 53:32barriers at its lack of knowledge.
  • 53:34And yes,
  • 53:35they are actually interested in learning
  • 53:36so hopefully hopefully we've evolved.
  • 53:38You know,
  • 53:39since you got that rejection letter.
  • 53:42So alright, well I would like to
  • 53:44thank everybody for their attention,
  • 53:46specifically Doctor Chu.
  • 53:47This was outstanding and everyone for
  • 53:49your comments and your questions.
  • 53:50I think we will adjourn at this point,
  • 53:53so thanks everyone. Have a great thank you.
  • 53:56Bye bye great talk, Ivan.
  • 53:57Great talk. Thank you so much.
  • 53:59Thank
  • 54:00you thank you, thank you everyone.