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Update on Diagnosis and Management of Avascular Necrosis

June 13, 2024
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  • 02:12But we're really delighted
  • 02:14to have Doctor Wisnia and Dr.
  • 02:17Oslam here with us today to
  • 02:19talk to us about diagnosis and
  • 02:22management of avascular necrosis.
  • 02:25Dr.
  • 02:25Wisnia,
  • 02:26through various training at Yale
  • 02:29and Weill Cornell and specialty
  • 02:33fellowships at Institutes of
  • 02:36Orthopedics and Sports Medicine,
  • 02:39is now Associate Professor of
  • 02:41Orthopedic Surgery and of Mechanical
  • 02:44Engineering and Material Science who
  • 02:46specializes in reconstructive surgery
  • 02:49for the hip and knee and as well
  • 02:53as revisions with a major clinical
  • 02:55focus on AVN and osteonecrosis.
  • 02:58Dr.
  • 02:59Oslam comes to us through various
  • 03:04different trainings but completed
  • 03:06her fellowship in this area at Johns
  • 03:09Hopkins and is now also Associate
  • 03:12Professor of Orthopedics and the
  • 03:15Director of Wound Care at Yale New
  • 03:19Haven Health's Lawrence and Memorial
  • 03:21Wound Care and Hyperbaric Medicine program.
  • 03:25And we are thrilled to have you and
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  • 03:55Thank you.
  • 03:57Thank you so much, Doctor Puglisi,
  • 04:00for inviting us and having
  • 04:03Doctor Aslam and I here.
  • 04:06I'm Dan Wisnia.
  • 04:08I'm an orthopedic surgeon and Doctor Aslam,
  • 04:12she's a physical medicine
  • 04:14rehabilitation specialist.
  • 04:15We are gonna give you a talk today
  • 04:19about what's new in avascular necrosis.
  • 04:22So about two years ago,
  • 04:26Doctor Aslam and I were at a departmental
  • 04:29picnic talking about our passion.
  • 04:33Mine in particular was
  • 04:35treating a vascular necrosis,
  • 04:37hers hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
  • 04:39And the more we spoke,
  • 04:42the more we realized we had a shared
  • 04:44passion in which we could work together.
  • 04:46And over the last two years,
  • 04:48we've put together an assembled
  • 04:52Yale's a vascular necrosis program.
  • 04:54So we see a lot of patients with a
  • 05:01vascular necrosis from across the
  • 05:03country who come to Yale with a vascular
  • 05:07necrosis primarily in their hips,
  • 05:09but also in other joints.
  • 05:11And we help them preserve their joints so
  • 05:13that they don't need a joint replacement.
  • 05:16And for those of you who are curious,
  • 05:18you know, if you end up with a
  • 05:20patient with a vascular necrosis,
  • 05:22how would you refer them to our program?
  • 05:25You'll go into EPIC in the
  • 05:28chart in the order section,
  • 05:31you can type in a,
  • 05:33a VN or a vascular necrosis or
  • 05:36osteonecrosis and then select
  • 05:39the a vascular necrosis program.
  • 05:41That will be the first in your list.
  • 05:45And you can always feel free to e-mail us.
  • 05:48You're never a bother,
  • 05:49so always feel free to e-mail us as well.
  • 05:55Now, a little bit of background about
  • 05:59a vascular necrosis. What, what is it?
  • 06:01So it's essentially an injury to the
  • 06:05blood supply to the femoral head.
  • 06:09And the femoral head, which is made of bone
  • 06:13every day is remodeling. So as you walk,
  • 06:16little micro fractures occur in the bone.
  • 06:19And every day your body repairs those
  • 06:22little cracks and it requires it,
  • 06:25the bone to be alive.
  • 06:27And when the blood supply is injured,
  • 06:29the bone dies.
  • 06:30Those cracks aren't able to heal.
  • 06:32They propagate, they get bigger and
  • 06:35then unfortunately the hip can collapse.
  • 06:38And we do see this, I always tell, give
  • 06:41the patients an analogy of a China plate.
  • 06:43If you have a China plate,
  • 06:47over time that China plate develops
  • 06:49cracks and the cracks get bigger.
  • 06:51And as the China plate ages,
  • 06:52it then breaks.
  • 06:54So it's really important for us to try
  • 06:57to restore that blood supply to prevent
  • 07:00the femoral head from collapsing.
  • 07:03Over time,
  • 07:04the name for a vascular necrosis has
  • 07:09changed and some common names are
  • 07:12osteonecrosis of the femoral head.
  • 07:14That's primarily the term you'll see
  • 07:16used in a lot of your pub Med searches,
  • 07:20but also a historically ischemic necrosis.
  • 07:24Subchondrially,
  • 07:25vascular necrosis and aseptic necrosis
  • 07:29have also been used in the United States.
  • 07:34There's about 10 to 30,000 new cases
  • 07:37that we're seeing every year and this
  • 07:40is primarily in younger patients.
  • 07:43So the patients who worsening with
  • 07:47avascular necrosis can range from
  • 07:49sometimes even in their teens
  • 07:52to about 55 years old.
  • 07:54And about 50 to 70% of them will
  • 07:58go on and experience a hip collapse
  • 08:01and need a hip replacement.
  • 08:03And one thing that's really not
  • 08:05well known is that 10% of all hip
  • 08:07replacement due to a vascular necrosis.
  • 08:12So when when we think of hip replacement,
  • 08:15we think, well,
  • 08:16that's because the cartilage has worn down,
  • 08:18the patient has bone on bone arthritis.
  • 08:21But actually 10% of all hip
  • 08:23replacements are due to this disease.
  • 08:25And it can be a very significant
  • 08:28surgery for a young patient to have
  • 08:31and then live with the potential
  • 08:33risk and complications of the hip
  • 08:36replacement for their entire adult life.
  • 08:40What causes a vascular necrosis?
  • 08:42The most common causes are trauma to the hip,
  • 08:46alcohol abuse, high dose steroids.
  • 08:50There is a correlation with COVID-19,
  • 08:52which we'll talk about in a second.
  • 08:54HIV,
  • 08:55primarily the medication from HIV
  • 08:58can be very toxic chemotherapy and
  • 09:01then blood disgraces like sickle
  • 09:04cell disease and clotting disorders.
  • 09:08Now the thing that we really want to
  • 09:11emphasize is that if we can catch a
  • 09:15vascular necrosis early that it is
  • 09:18possible to prevent or delay a hip collapse.
  • 09:21So it's important that we catch these
  • 09:24early because a hip replacement can actually.
  • 09:29If you have a hip replacement at a young age,
  • 09:31you may ultimately need a revision
  • 09:33as the bearing surfaces wear out.
  • 09:37And you could have a multitude of
  • 09:40complications with the hip replacement,
  • 09:41as I'm sure you've all have seen.
  • 09:43And the best thing to do is
  • 09:45try to avoid a hip replacement.
  • 09:48And the therapies that we're
  • 09:49going to talk to you about are
  • 09:52relatively safe and a lot safer
  • 09:54than having a hip replacement.
  • 10:00So first I want to share with you a study
  • 10:03in which this is a a big meta analysis.
  • 10:07This meta analysis was looking to see how
  • 10:12patients did with a total hip replacement.
  • 10:16And they looked at patients who had
  • 10:18a vascular necrosis and arthritis
  • 10:20and they wanted to see the outcomes.
  • 10:23How did these patients do after surgery?
  • 10:26And they used national registry data.
  • 10:29So this is really good dated.
  • 10:30It's coming from countries like Australia
  • 10:34and the United Kingdom that have really
  • 10:37nice total joint replacement registries.
  • 10:40And they found that AVN patients
  • 10:44were 1.6 times more likely to have a
  • 10:47revision after their hip replacement
  • 10:49compared to patients who had arthritis
  • 10:51who had a hip replacement.
  • 10:53And they found that there is a higher
  • 10:56risk of infection in these patients
  • 10:58and also fracture around the implants.
  • 11:01So this is something just to keep
  • 11:03in mind that these patients even
  • 11:05after they have the hip replacement
  • 11:07have a higher risk of complication.
  • 11:10Yeah. And I'm going to stop you
  • 11:11there for a SEC. So question,
  • 11:13what do you think that's from?
  • 11:16So I mean, is it that this is a more
  • 11:18systemic vascular process that we
  • 11:20fail to realize as such and thus you
  • 11:24have poor healing even around the,
  • 11:26let's say, the implant,
  • 11:27the site of the implant, etcetera?
  • 11:30Or are there other factors at play?
  • 11:34There's a few factors.
  • 11:35One is these are younger patients.
  • 11:38So you're having a 40 year old
  • 11:40patient get a hip replacement compared
  • 11:41to a 65 year old or 70 year old.
  • 11:44So that younger patient is just
  • 11:47going to be harder on the implant.
  • 11:49They're going to be more active,
  • 11:50they're going to engage in activities
  • 11:53that maybe a 6570 year old wouldn't
  • 11:56engage in that could lead to a fracture.
  • 11:58The 2nd is that these patients
  • 12:00have a lot of other comorbidities.
  • 12:02You know, we went over the risk factors.
  • 12:05They have HIV or a transplant or or
  • 12:10sickle cell disease, alcohol abuse.
  • 12:14So there's other reasons that that
  • 12:17they're sicker that so they're
  • 12:19higher risk for infections and
  • 12:21that that that's another reason
  • 12:23why they have more complications.
  • 12:28So Doctor Asim and I have seen a lot of
  • 12:33patients with a vascular necrosis who
  • 12:37suffered of severe COVID-19 infections.
  • 12:43And the reason for this is the relationship
  • 12:48between COVID-19 hospitalization and
  • 12:50being placed on high dose steroids.
  • 12:53In this meta analysis,
  • 12:55they looked at case reports, case series,
  • 12:59they collected 104 patients who were
  • 13:02diagnosed with avascular necrosis
  • 13:04after being hospitalized for COVID-19.
  • 13:07And they found that patients who had
  • 13:11higher dose steroid use or prolonged use
  • 13:14of steroids were at the highest risk of
  • 13:17a developing a vascular necrosis. And
  • 13:25this is not a reason not to give steroids.
  • 13:29So I think the most important thing
  • 13:32is steroids can be life saving.
  • 13:33That if these patients
  • 13:35hadn't received steroids,
  • 13:36they may not have survived.
  • 13:38So we're definitely not
  • 13:40saying not to give steroids.
  • 13:41There's many instances where you
  • 13:43definitely have to 100% give steroids
  • 13:47and if you think it's warranted,
  • 13:50I wouldn't hesitate to follow the
  • 13:54protocols that you currently follow.
  • 13:56When you give a Medrol dose pack or
  • 13:58if you or someones hospitalized and
  • 14:00you're giving them high dose steroids,
  • 14:02I think that is very reasonable
  • 14:05because steroids have a lot of benefit,
  • 14:09life saving benefit.
  • 14:11But there is a correlation we're
  • 14:14seeing in these COVID-19 patients
  • 14:16who some of them were on steroids
  • 14:17for a very long time,
  • 14:19and we're seeing multifocally
  • 14:20vascular necrosis in these patients.
  • 14:25If you are interested in doing some reading,
  • 14:28this is a terrific article
  • 14:30written by one of my mentors,
  • 14:33Doctor Lynn Jones at the Cleveland Clinic.
  • 14:35It's a review article all about
  • 14:37osteonecrosis of the femoral head.
  • 14:39And we just want to share
  • 14:41this article with you.
  • 14:42So if you want some supplements
  • 14:46reading after a talk,
  • 14:48this article's available.
  • 14:49So let's start with a case presentation.
  • 14:53This is a typical patient that
  • 14:55we'll see in the avascular Necros
  • 14:58Avascular Necrosis program.
  • 15:00A 29 year old female presents
  • 15:02to our clinic with hip pain,
  • 15:04complaining of three months of
  • 15:06worsening groin pain and she was
  • 15:08recently hospitalized about eight
  • 15:10months ago with a severe asthma
  • 15:12exacerbation in which she was given
  • 15:14a course of high dose steroids.
  • 15:17On exam she has groin pain and thigh
  • 15:20pain and we obtained X-rays in the
  • 15:24clinic and the X-rays are normal.
  • 15:27This is very typical of a vascular necrosis.
  • 15:30Early stage of vascular necrosis,
  • 15:32you will not see signs of it on X-ray
  • 15:35and that's why a lot of these cases are
  • 15:38missed because patients get X-rays.
  • 15:40The X-rays are normal and then for
  • 15:44the work of it is delayed because
  • 15:48because the X-rays are normal,
  • 15:50folks don't pursue additional
  • 15:53more advanced imaging.
  • 15:56Well,
  • 15:56Dan, let me just stop you there
  • 15:58for a minute because if I'm the
  • 16:00internist who this woman is coming to,
  • 16:02which is the most classic place she would go,
  • 16:06I'm not having AVN very high in my
  • 16:08differential given that she just
  • 16:10had a brief course of steroids.
  • 16:12I tend to think of it more with
  • 16:15prolonged steroid courses.
  • 16:16Am I wrong in thinking about it like that?
  • 16:18Is it, are you seeing this clinically
  • 16:21even with brief burst treatments like
  • 16:23an asthma exacerbation is Pred 40 for
  • 16:26five days it are you seeing AVN and
  • 16:29young people after a a course like that?
  • 16:33So
  • 16:34what we know is that there is a
  • 16:38relationship between the length
  • 16:40of the steroid use and the dose,
  • 16:42but we also know that any amount of
  • 16:46steroid use can lead to a vascular
  • 16:49necrosis and certain patients are more
  • 16:52prone to a vascular necrosis than others.
  • 16:56So in fact, as an example,
  • 16:58Doctor Asim and I have a have two
  • 17:01brothers who each of them were
  • 17:03put on a Medrol dose pack for
  • 17:06back pain about a year ago.
  • 17:09They both got AVN and we've
  • 17:11done genetic testing,
  • 17:13hematologic testing to try to figure out,
  • 17:17you know, why would these two brothers,
  • 17:20you know, with such a small
  • 17:21amount of steroid use get AVN.
  • 17:23So everyone,
  • 17:24the way I think about it is everyone
  • 17:27has a risk of AVN with steroid use.
  • 17:30You know,
  • 17:31there are some rheumatologic patients,
  • 17:33they're on steroids every day
  • 17:35for their entire lives and they
  • 17:38never get AVN with other patients
  • 17:40who they have one Medrol dose
  • 17:42pack and they'll get AVN.
  • 17:44So
  • 17:44yeah, there's something genetic
  • 17:46that we're not able or we don't
  • 17:48know how to pick up on that can
  • 17:51put people at differential risk.
  • 17:52And so it sounds like even
  • 17:54though it shouldn't be high,
  • 17:56like very high on your list, this,
  • 17:58this sort of scenario can lead to AVN
  • 18:00and that's really helpful to know.
  • 18:03I, I would definitely have it on the,
  • 18:05on your differential diagnosis and
  • 18:08some other potential diagnosis you
  • 18:11should have on your list besides
  • 18:14osteonecrosis of the femoral head would
  • 18:17be a femoral neck stress fracture,
  • 18:19a subchondral insufficiency fracture,
  • 18:21a hip dysplasia.
  • 18:23So labral pathology, early onset arthritis.
  • 18:28And then sort of lower on the
  • 18:29list would be septic arthritis.
  • 18:31But if there's other,
  • 18:32you really need to get a good history too.
  • 18:36So if there's a history of other
  • 18:38joints that are also painful,
  • 18:40maybe a rheumatologic etiology that
  • 18:43really comes down to getting a good HPI
  • 18:49in terms of the work up,
  • 18:50you want to get a good history.
  • 18:52So Doctor Asim and I,
  • 18:54we have a checklist that we go
  • 18:56through of all the potential risk
  • 18:58factors for avascular necrosis.
  • 19:00So we really try to identify over the last
  • 19:04few years if there were any potential risks.
  • 19:08And then we want to understand the
  • 19:10onset of the pain and where it is.
  • 19:12And patients who have hip pain may have
  • 19:14referred pain to the buttock or the knee.
  • 19:16So if they're complaining
  • 19:18of knee pain or pain,
  • 19:19you have to really make certain you,
  • 19:22you don't ignore the hip because
  • 19:25I've had a few patients who
  • 19:26come in saying my knee hurts,
  • 19:28my knee hurts and I say,
  • 19:30oh, by the way,
  • 19:31your knee is hurting because
  • 19:33you have hip avascular necrosis.
  • 19:35So that's you always have to keep
  • 19:37that in mind on physical exam.
  • 19:40They're gonna have pain with thigh rotation.
  • 19:42One classic sign is pain with a log
  • 19:45roll where they're lying on their
  • 19:47back and you rotate the leg and they
  • 19:49have pain in their thigh and groin.
  • 19:52And you'll start with X-rays.
  • 19:54So you'll get X-rays of both hips.
  • 19:56And then if the X-rays don't show anything,
  • 19:58you'll move on to more advanced imaging.
  • 20:01If you find a vascular necrosis in
  • 20:05one joint and they're complaining
  • 20:07of pain in other joints,
  • 20:09that's when I would consider a skeletal
  • 20:11survey and get X-rays of the knees,
  • 20:14the ankles and the shoulders 'cause
  • 20:16that's those are other joints in
  • 20:19which we'll see a vascular necrosis
  • 20:22in terms of which X-rays to order.
  • 20:24So I would order these three X-rays.
  • 20:27I would start with an AP pelvis.
  • 20:29This allows us to see the hip
  • 20:31joints and also the femoral heads.
  • 20:34And then I would get dedicated
  • 20:36AP right and left hips.
  • 20:38This is where the X-rays focus right
  • 20:41over the femoral head and we're able
  • 20:44to identify if there's any signs
  • 20:46of a vascular necrosis in the hip.
  • 20:50And then we get a frog leg
  • 20:52lateral right and left.
  • 20:54And the value of this X-ray is
  • 20:56that it allows us to get a 90°
  • 20:59orthogonal view of the femoral head.
  • 21:02Now in a bunch of patients,
  • 21:05we will not see any signs
  • 21:07of a vascular necrosis,
  • 21:08especially in in AVN early on in the disease.
  • 21:12So if the X-rays are negative,
  • 21:14then you want to consider
  • 21:17high resolution imaging.
  • 21:19So first thing I tell everyone is before
  • 21:22you rush and go ahead and order something,
  • 21:25look in their chart and see if
  • 21:27they've already had ACT scan
  • 21:29or MRI over the last year.
  • 21:31Because there are many times a
  • 21:33patient has gone to the emergency
  • 21:35room and the emergency room just
  • 21:38reflect reflectively just gets ACT
  • 21:40scan of the abdomen pelvis and
  • 21:42we can see AVN on the CAT scan.
  • 21:44And if it's already been done,
  • 21:46there's no reason to repeat the the study.
  • 21:50The gold standard is an MRI.
  • 21:52So we'll get an MRI of the
  • 21:54bilateral hips without
  • 21:55contrast. You don't need contrast.
  • 21:58And if they're not able to get an MRI,
  • 22:01then you can get ACT pelvis without contrast.
  • 22:05And this is what you'll see.
  • 22:07You'll see edema in the femoral head.
  • 22:09You'll see signs of a vascular necrosis
  • 22:14where there isn't any perfusion.
  • 22:15You'll see areas of dead bone.
  • 22:19In this particular patient,
  • 22:20we're able to tell that the
  • 22:22femoral head does not collapse.
  • 22:24We have a nice round femoral
  • 22:26head to This patient is a great
  • 22:28candidate for therapies to try to
  • 22:31prevent femoral head collapse.
  • 22:35So when a patient comes to
  • 22:37our vascular necrosis program,
  • 22:39we categorize them into two categories.
  • 22:42Has your hip collapsed or not?
  • 22:44If it hasn't collapsed,
  • 22:45then you're a candidate for therapy
  • 22:48such as medication, surgery,
  • 22:51such as cord decompression in
  • 22:54which we drill into the femoral
  • 22:56head to remove some of that dead
  • 22:58bone and then we will put some
  • 23:00stem cells into the region and
  • 23:04also hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
  • 23:07But unfortunately,
  • 23:07if the femal head has collapsed,
  • 23:10then our only option is a hip replacement.
  • 23:14We don't have a way to restore the
  • 23:16femal head once that round spherical
  • 23:19architecture has been destroyed.
  • 23:21A
  • 23:21couple questions here if you don't mind.
  • 23:24One is what is the timing between
  • 23:26taking a course of steroids and the
  • 23:29development and symptoms of AVN?
  • 23:30Is that predictable in any way?
  • 23:35What I'll tell you is a lot of
  • 23:38patients will say that during their
  • 23:40course of treatment of the steroids,
  • 23:43they will notice symptoms of joint pain.
  • 23:49So it's likely the AVN is occurring
  • 23:52as they're taking that medication.
  • 23:55And then in terms of when during the
  • 23:58course will the femoral head collapse,
  • 24:00that timing is really hard to predict.
  • 24:03It depends on the size of the
  • 24:05lesion and where the lesion's
  • 24:07located within the femoral head.
  • 24:09So sometimes the lesion can be
  • 24:11located in a more of a weight
  • 24:13bearing region of the femoral head.
  • 24:14That's higher risk of collapse.
  • 24:16It's a larger lesion that's
  • 24:18higher risk of collapse.
  • 24:20Got it. That's helpful.
  • 24:21And I think you said this,
  • 24:23but just to confirm,
  • 24:25if somebody already has existing
  • 24:27significant hip arthritis away,
  • 24:30will it be harder to
  • 24:31see the AVN on imaging?
  • 24:35It's a good question it it shouldn't be,
  • 24:37but in patients who have underlying
  • 24:41arthritis, they probably would not
  • 24:43be a candidate for any of these
  • 24:45preventative therapies for hip collapse.
  • 24:48And we would probably recommend
  • 24:51a hip replacement because if
  • 24:53you have arthritis in the hip,
  • 24:55then again, you know,
  • 24:58what we're trying to preserve with
  • 25:00these therapies is that round shape
  • 25:02of the hip and the cartilage.
  • 25:04But if you the cartilage is already damaged,
  • 25:06it would most likely make sense not
  • 25:10to do these preventative therapies.
  • 25:13OK, And then one more and just humor
  • 25:15me 'cause this one's a little bit
  • 25:16out there and it's my own question,
  • 25:18so I'll own that. But like, you know,
  • 25:20this is an ischemic process.
  • 25:22So if you have ischemia to the heart,
  • 25:24we have a troponin that
  • 25:26that can be our marker,
  • 25:27our biomarker in addition to more
  • 25:30rudimentary tests like an EKG.
  • 25:32If you have ischemia to the gut,
  • 25:34we have a lactate we can check as a marker of
  • 25:37ischemia that can point us towards, you know,
  • 25:40whether that process is, is occurring.
  • 25:42Is there any such biomarker
  • 25:44with ischemia to the bone?
  • 25:46Because it seems like this imaging like
  • 25:49it's like by the time the imaging changes,
  • 25:51you already have some some
  • 25:52big problems going on.
  • 25:54You're not catching it early.
  • 25:55It doesn't sound like with an X-ray per SE,
  • 25:59probably something's happening before
  • 26:00you can even see it on an X-ray.
  • 26:04And so I wonder if there's work in the
  • 26:06field on biomarkers of bone ischemia
  • 26:08that can point you towards that.
  • 26:12It's a great question.
  • 26:14And there are certain biomarkers
  • 26:16that can be elevated.
  • 26:18These are markers that show
  • 26:21osteoclast activity and they're
  • 26:24just not sort of traditionally
  • 26:28ordered or available in our lab.
  • 26:31And, and, but there have been a bunch of
  • 26:34papers looking at different biomarkers,
  • 26:36different products of bone resorption
  • 26:42that that in which you will see a spike,
  • 26:45but I'm not aware of them being
  • 26:50used for for a diagnostic purpose.
  • 26:52Got it. Thank you.
  • 26:56So in terms of medical
  • 26:59therapies, there are certain
  • 27:03there's certain comorbidities
  • 27:04that place a patient at higher
  • 27:07risk for avascular necrosis.
  • 27:09So one are patients with thrombophilic
  • 27:12or hypo forbidinolytic disorders.
  • 27:15And there are some studies for this
  • 27:19particular subset of patients that have
  • 27:22found that Lovenox or heparin can be helpful.
  • 27:27And there is another subset of patients
  • 27:31with lipid metabolism disorders and
  • 27:34hypercholesterol disorders in which
  • 27:36statins have been found to be helpful.
  • 27:40There are a number of studies looking at the
  • 27:43use of bisphosphonates and bisphosphonates,
  • 27:46specifically allodronate therapy.
  • 27:48It's known to slow osteoclast activity
  • 27:53and there's very strong evidence to
  • 27:55show that it does slow the progression
  • 27:58of the disease of avascular necrosis
  • 28:00and it can also help with hip pain.
  • 28:03So the bisphosphonates are a good
  • 28:08medical therapy to consider,
  • 28:10but not every patient is a candidate
  • 28:12and they do have side effects and not
  • 28:15every patient is really open to this.
  • 28:17And the one thing about bisphosphonates is
  • 28:20that while it it slows the progression,
  • 28:23it doesn't help with angiogenesis,
  • 28:25It doesn't help with revascularizing the hip.
  • 28:29So it will delay the rate of progression,
  • 28:32but it doesn't halt it.
  • 28:37One particular surgery that has demonstrated
  • 28:40a lot of effectiveness is cordee compression.
  • 28:43So this is where we drill into the
  • 28:46femoral head directly into the
  • 28:49lesion and remove the dead bone.
  • 28:52And the one big value of this surgery
  • 28:55is that it reduces the swelling and
  • 28:58pressure within the femoral head.
  • 29:01So that provides some pain relief and also
  • 29:04by reducing the pressure in the femoral head,
  • 29:08helps with revascularization.
  • 29:09The second thing is,
  • 29:12is that a sclerotic margin of bone
  • 29:15develops around the dead bone.
  • 29:17This becomes very thick.
  • 29:19And as a surgeon,
  • 29:20I can tell you as I drill through it,
  • 29:22it's almost like I'm drilling through rock.
  • 29:24It is so thick and hard.
  • 29:26And there's no way that new capillaries
  • 29:28or blood vessels can cross that
  • 29:31barrier into that region of dead bone.
  • 29:33So the core decompression,
  • 29:34another reason we do it is to
  • 29:37provide a pathway for those new
  • 29:39capillaries to grow into that region.
  • 29:44There are many, many clinical studies
  • 29:46that have been done over the years
  • 29:48looking at core decompression.
  • 29:501 challenge in comparing all these
  • 29:52studies are that there's many different
  • 29:55techniques drilling with the eight or
  • 29:59nine different drill pins different
  • 30:03removing certain amounts of bone.
  • 30:06But they have all shown very good
  • 30:10success with with smaller lesions
  • 30:13and less advanced stage lesions
  • 30:15and they really show a remarkable
  • 30:18improvement with pain control and
  • 30:20core decompression has been found to
  • 30:23delay the need for hip replacement.
  • 30:28One big question we had here at
  • 30:30Yale is that if a patient has
  • 30:32a core decompression surgery,
  • 30:34does it then make their the hip replacement?
  • 30:38If they need a hip replacement down the road,
  • 30:40does it affect the outcome
  • 30:42of that hip replacement?
  • 30:44And what we demonstrated in the
  • 30:48Journal of the American Association
  • 30:50of Orthopedic Surgery is that if
  • 30:52you have a cord decompression,
  • 30:54it does not affect your outcome if
  • 30:56you eventually go on to femoral head
  • 30:58collapse and need a hip replacement.
  • 31:00So that's a really reassuring finding
  • 31:04to tell patients is that, you know,
  • 31:07we're not closing any bridges or making
  • 31:08if you need a hip replacement down the road,
  • 31:11we're not increasing your
  • 31:13risk of something happening.
  • 31:16So according compression is very challenging
  • 31:20because it's directed under fluoroscopy.
  • 31:22So these are X-rays.
  • 31:25So you try to see the lesion on X-ray.
  • 31:28It's really hard.
  • 31:29I don't know if you can see
  • 31:31the lesion on this X-ray,
  • 31:33but it's in, in my opinion,
  • 31:34it's almost impossible to see on X-ray.
  • 31:38So what traditionally is done is the surgeon,
  • 31:42instead of just drilling in once,
  • 31:43they'll drill in eight or nine times
  • 31:46through different tracks to really
  • 31:48ensure that they are hitting the lesion.
  • 31:51But every time you drill
  • 31:53through the femoral neck,
  • 31:54you increase the risk of a hip fracture.
  • 31:56So in the traditional sense,
  • 31:58when these cord decompressions are done,
  • 32:00most surgeons don't allow the patient
  • 32:02to weight bear for three to six months
  • 32:05because they're destabilizing the bone
  • 32:07and they're removing so much bone.
  • 32:12We also at Yale used stem cells.
  • 32:15So what we'll do is we'll take bone
  • 32:18marrow aspirate concentrate and then
  • 32:19we'll spin it down with a special
  • 32:21centrifuge system in the operating room.
  • 32:24And then we'll give these stem cells back
  • 32:27during the surgery through those drill tracks
  • 32:30to supplement the core decompression surgery.
  • 32:33And this procedure has a term,
  • 32:36it's core decompression with adjuvants.
  • 32:38And there's many different
  • 32:39adjuvants on the market,
  • 32:40bone marrow aspirate, concentrate,
  • 32:43platelet risk rich plasma.
  • 32:45There's even studies where they take
  • 32:47patient stem cells and grow them in the
  • 32:50lab for a few weeks and then and then
  • 32:53inject those into the femoral head.
  • 32:55But, but very good evidence has
  • 32:59been demonstrated using these
  • 33:01adjuvants and and improving the
  • 33:03outcome of core decompression.
  • 33:06One thing I want to emphasize is that a
  • 33:10vascular necrosis has very different,
  • 33:14very different in shapes and sizes.
  • 33:18So these are four 3D models that we created
  • 33:21on patients with avascular necrosis.
  • 33:23And here you can see that some of
  • 33:25the lesions are very small.
  • 33:27Some of the lesions are very large.
  • 33:30And this is just to emphasize that
  • 33:32when you do a cardiac compression,
  • 33:34you really need to customize the surgery
  • 33:37for the patient and target the lesion.
  • 33:40So we developed at Yale a 3D technique
  • 33:44and we use computer navigation
  • 33:47stereotactic techniques where we
  • 33:49create the 3D model during the
  • 33:52surgery and then we're able to guide
  • 33:57during the surgery in 3D,
  • 34:00our drill guide right into the lesion.
  • 34:03In the panel A you can see the
  • 34:06patients in the CT scanner and panel
  • 34:09B you can see I'm holding a drill
  • 34:13guide that has an optical array on
  • 34:17it and the patient's thigh bone,
  • 34:19the femur has an optical array.
  • 34:21And then in 3D in the third panel,
  • 34:23you can see that I'm able to move the
  • 34:26drill guide and target the lesion directly.
  • 34:30So with this technique, I'm usually
  • 34:32able to do it with just one drill pass.
  • 34:35And I'm not, I, I, I do not have to
  • 34:39do eight or nine different drill paths.
  • 34:40I'm able to do the surgery just
  • 34:42with one drill path.
  • 34:44And this is a technique that
  • 34:46we developed here at Yale using
  • 34:49our stereotactic techniques.
  • 34:54And, and just quickly here,
  • 34:57you can see we're drilling
  • 34:58into the femoral head.
  • 34:59We've targeted the lesion.
  • 35:01We've deployed a flip cutter
  • 35:03drill to remove the dead bone.
  • 35:06We're inside the lesion,
  • 35:08removing the dead bone,
  • 35:09and then we're going to inject
  • 35:12the stem cells into the lesion.
  • 35:14Right now, I'm going to
  • 35:15hand off to Doctor Aslam.
  • 35:18Thank you, Doctor Bisniya.
  • 35:20So I'm going to talk about my role in
  • 35:23this program is providing hyperbaric
  • 35:25oxygen therapy as an adjunct
  • 35:28treatment to the procedure the doctor
  • 35:30Viznia is doing for ABN patients.
  • 35:33This is like a boost to what he does
  • 35:36and I'll explain in the next few slides
  • 35:40so you can advance the slide to that.
  • 35:44Oxygen used in high concentrations
  • 35:46of hyperoxia is actually a drug
  • 35:50with many therapeutic effects and
  • 35:52hyperbaric chamber is the dosing device.
  • 35:56The definition of hyperbaric oxygen is
  • 35:58not just hyperoxia, but it is hyperbaric.
  • 36:01So it is 100% oxygen intermittently
  • 36:04breathing by a patient breathing.
  • 36:07So that's a systemic effect under
  • 36:10pressure and the pressure that
  • 36:13hyperbaric oxygen is defined at is at
  • 36:17least 1.4 atmosphere absolute above
  • 36:19sea level where one is at sea level.
  • 36:23Most of the outpatient therapies
  • 36:25that we provide with hyperbaric
  • 36:27oxygen like wound healing,
  • 36:29treating osteomyelitis,
  • 36:30keeping radiation injuries is
  • 36:32anywhere between 2 and 2.48 year
  • 36:37absolute atmosphere pressures.
  • 36:39That's the normal range and each
  • 36:43patient would have about 30 treatments.
  • 36:46That is five days a week for about 6
  • 36:50weeks and each treatment is 2 hours in
  • 36:55the chamber getting this 100% oxygen.
  • 36:58With this therapy,
  • 37:00the arterial PO2 raises to about
  • 37:041000 to 1500 millimetres mercury,
  • 37:06whereas this oxygen is not the
  • 37:09oxygen bound to the hemoglobin.
  • 37:11This is dissolved oxygen in your plasma.
  • 37:14With that high pressure,
  • 37:16this oxygen can diffuse out of the
  • 37:18vascular system into ischemic tissues
  • 37:20and in tissues we raise the high.
  • 37:23We raise the oxygen tension to about
  • 37:26300 to 400 millimetres AG with two
  • 37:29to three atmosphere pressures of
  • 37:32hyperbaric oxygen and that is the
  • 37:35concentration where oxygen has
  • 37:37the therapeutic effects.
  • 37:38So oxy hyperbaric oxygen,
  • 37:41the therapeutic effects are mostly through
  • 37:48through you know generation of reactive
  • 37:51species of oxygen and nitrogen and
  • 37:54then these reactive oxygen and
  • 37:57reactive nitrogen species will then
  • 38:00lead to many signalling pathways which
  • 38:02all have these therapeutic effects.
  • 38:05So the biochemical pathways where hyperbaric
  • 38:09oxygen improves neo vascularization
  • 38:12or antibacterial effect of collagen
  • 38:15synthesis and regulating inflammation,
  • 38:18these are all biochemical pathways that
  • 38:21have been established beyond, you know,
  • 38:24with very good evidence for decades now.
  • 38:27But what is now emerging is the
  • 38:30mechanism of hyperbaric oxygen for
  • 38:32avascular necrosis and how does it
  • 38:34promote osteogenic process promotion,
  • 38:36which I'll talk about in a few
  • 38:38minutes next time please.
  • 38:43So this is our oxygen hyperbaric
  • 38:46chambers at the Lawrence and Memorial
  • 38:48Wound and Hyperbaric Centre.
  • 38:50These are monoplace chambers.
  • 38:51These are more commonly used
  • 38:54for outpatient therapies.
  • 38:55There are multi place chambers which
  • 38:58actually have many patients sitting
  • 39:00in a big room and they actually wear
  • 39:04hoods for the hyperbaric oxygen.
  • 39:06Whereas in monoplace chambers
  • 39:07which are very common in many
  • 39:09hyperbaric outpatient centres,
  • 39:11one patient goes into one chamber and
  • 39:15stays there for about 90 minutes getting
  • 39:19hyperbaric oxygen and next slide please.
  • 39:22The patient lies on a stretcher.
  • 39:25The stretcher,
  • 39:25the top part of the stretcher
  • 39:28goes directly into the chamber.
  • 39:31The patient is given 100% oxygen, sorry,
  • 39:34clothes that are safe for 100% oxygen.
  • 39:37So they're 100% cotton and cotton sheets.
  • 39:40These are all hyperbaric safe linen
  • 39:43that goes in when the patient
  • 39:45is in the door is closed.
  • 39:47But there are all these diets and
  • 39:49mechanisms to change pressure and be
  • 39:52able to communicate with the patient.
  • 39:54A hyperbaric physician is supposed to
  • 39:56be in the center at all times when the
  • 39:59patient is in the hyperbaric chamber.
  • 40:01And a hyperbaric nurse and a
  • 40:03technician is in the room at all times
  • 40:05to communicate with the patients.
  • 40:07Next slide, please.
  • 40:09So I'm going to talk to you about
  • 40:11a little bit about osteo radio
  • 40:13necrosis of the mandible or ORN.
  • 40:16This hyperbaric oxygen protocol
  • 40:19for ORN was established like about.
  • 40:22More than four decades ago by
  • 40:24doctor Robert Marks and it's called
  • 40:27the Marks protocol.
  • 40:28The interesting thing is that
  • 40:31the pathophysiology of ORN,
  • 40:33how it affects the jawbone is actually
  • 40:36an avascular necrosis which was
  • 40:38established by Doctor Robert Marks
  • 40:40like in 1980s that he established
  • 40:43by by sampling bone from necrotic
  • 40:47bone that they were no bacteria.
  • 40:50So he said this is not an infectious process,
  • 40:53this is essentially an avascular necrosis.
  • 40:57Who gets this is patients who have
  • 41:00radiation for head and neck cancers.
  • 41:02They because of late effects of radiations,
  • 41:05get fibrosis of blood vessels and
  • 41:09develop this necrosis of the jawbone.
  • 41:12The protocol that Doctor Marks came
  • 41:15up with decades ago and it is actually
  • 41:18the earliest use of hyperbaric oxygen
  • 41:21and it is actually the most frequent
  • 41:24use of hyperbaric oxygen that we see
  • 41:27that we use in medicine today as well.
  • 41:32So the protocol is 20 treatments
  • 41:36of hyperbaric before the surgical
  • 41:39treatment for the necrosis or the
  • 41:41when the oral surgeon removes the
  • 41:44necrotic bone and the decayed teeth.
  • 41:46So you give 20 treatments before
  • 41:48and the idea of those 20 treatments
  • 41:50before is to condition the bone
  • 41:52to decrease inflammation in,
  • 41:54improve some neo vascularization
  • 41:56so the bone can then withstand the
  • 41:59trauma of the surgery, the wounding,
  • 42:01as well as the metabolic need of
  • 42:03the surgical intervention.
  • 42:05And then you do the oral surgeon
  • 42:07takes out the teeth,
  • 42:09cleans out the bone and then you
  • 42:10do 10 more treatments after that.
  • 42:13So that has been an established
  • 42:15protocol and then 10 more treatments
  • 42:17after the surgical procedure is
  • 42:19to heal the
  • 42:20surgical bone and heal the bone.
  • 42:22In my last 15 years of doing hyperbaric
  • 42:26oxygen, this has been a very successful
  • 42:29treatment of all ORN using this protocol
  • 42:32and Doctor Marks has on many papers on this
  • 42:36where they've shown complete resolution
  • 42:38and really huge success of this procedure.
  • 42:42Now the question that Dan and I were asking
  • 42:45like if this is the same path of Physiology,
  • 42:48so why isn't hyperbaric approved for AVN?
  • 42:51And that is our mission now to get it
  • 42:55approved for AVN because believe it or not,
  • 42:57the European Council of Hyperbaric
  • 42:59Medicine has included AVN and approved
  • 43:01it for a condition treated that
  • 43:05will benefit from hyperbaric oxygen.
  • 43:06But we need large randomised controlled
  • 43:09trials to get it approved here.
  • 43:12But we do believe and this is our,
  • 43:14our hypothesis or I think we have,
  • 43:18we have done some cases that we think
  • 43:20have suggested that the concurrent use of
  • 43:23hyperbaric with core decompression that
  • 43:25Doctor Viznia is doing with stem cells.
  • 43:28This will all have a collaborative and
  • 43:30enhanced effect on, on healing of this bone.
  • 43:33Next slide please.
  • 43:36So improved neo vascularization
  • 43:38by hyperbaric is not only through
  • 43:41angiogenesis, which is you know,
  • 43:43takes a hyperbaric effect,
  • 43:44endothelial cells and new blood
  • 43:46vessels sprout in areas of ischemia,
  • 43:48but also through vascular vascular genesis,
  • 43:53which is basically de Novo
  • 43:56synthesis from stem cells.
  • 43:58So as I said, hyperbaric oxygen,
  • 44:01the therapeutic effects are through reactive
  • 44:04oxygen and reactive nitrogen species.
  • 44:06But because hyperbaric oxygen is interrupted,
  • 44:09so it's like daily for two hours and we
  • 44:12do five days a week and interruption.
  • 44:14This protocol has shown that hyperbaric
  • 44:17oxygen will give enough oxidative stress
  • 44:20to drive all these processes of neo
  • 44:24vascularization and tissue regeneration,
  • 44:26but it is not oxygen toxicity.
  • 44:29So this is very important to understand
  • 44:32about the mechanism of hyperbaric
  • 44:34oxygen and its efficacy that the
  • 44:36oxidative stress by hyperbaric oxygen
  • 44:39is not synonymous with oxygen toxicity.
  • 44:42Doctor Steven Palm has done extensive
  • 44:45research on hyperbaric oxygen and
  • 44:48shown that hyperbaric oxygen does
  • 44:51mobilize stem cells from stem cells
  • 44:54depot in the body from bone marrow,
  • 44:57not only mobilizes them but enhances
  • 45:00the recruitment of stem cells in
  • 45:03ischemic tissues or areas of injury.
  • 45:06Not only that,
  • 45:07it also improves and stimulates
  • 45:10the differentiation of pure pure
  • 45:12reputant potent stem cells.
  • 45:14So with Doctor Viznia putting
  • 45:16the stem cells there,
  • 45:18we believe that it is going to
  • 45:20enhance a lot of effective stem cells,
  • 45:22not only mobilizing the stem cells,
  • 45:24but stimulating the stem cells that
  • 45:26have been put there by Doctor Viznia
  • 45:28so that they have their effect sooner.
  • 45:30So the oxidative stress needs to hit 1A,
  • 45:35which is hypoxia inducible
  • 45:37factor stabilization,
  • 45:38growth factor production.
  • 45:40And there's a whole mechanism of
  • 45:42many cytokines and growth factors
  • 45:45that are affected.
  • 45:47And these studies were done not only
  • 45:49in mice but also in human volunteers
  • 45:52and patients where samples were
  • 45:54taken of blood at beginning of
  • 45:56hyperbaric at 10 treatments 20 and 30.
  • 45:58And they were shown that there was
  • 46:01increasing stem cells circulating in
  • 46:03the bodies. Doctor Kemporesi and Dr.
  • 46:06Vizani have done extensive research
  • 46:08and published widely and now have
  • 46:11come up with these new indications of
  • 46:14hyperbaric and have shown evidence
  • 46:17that hyperbaric oxygen suppresses
  • 46:19the activity of osteoclast.
  • 46:21So in dead bone or ischemic bone,
  • 46:24the osteoclasts are activated and there
  • 46:26is more bone reduction than bone generation.
  • 46:29So what hyperbaric does is
  • 46:32it reverses this process.
  • 46:34So it suppresses osteoclast
  • 46:36differentiation and activation,
  • 46:38it stimulates osteoblast differentiation,
  • 46:41drives down the inflammation by decreasing
  • 46:46amounts of TNF alpha Illinois 6.
  • 46:49So it decreases the bone edema,
  • 46:51it decreases pain.
  • 46:52That way it tips the balance towards bone
  • 46:55regeneration rather than bone resorption.
  • 46:57But underlying mechanisms are
  • 47:00still largely unclear as we are,
  • 47:03and we hope to have more studies
  • 47:05to elaborate on these effects.
  • 47:07Next slide please.
  • 47:09What are the side effects of hyperbaric?
  • 47:11Basically,
  • 47:12hyperbaric is one of the safest
  • 47:14treatments in modern medicine.
  • 47:16All the side effects that we see in
  • 47:19our practice is they are temporary.
  • 47:21So the most common are the
  • 47:23patient can be claustrophobic,
  • 47:25but once they get into these chambers,
  • 47:27because their glass chambers is a person
  • 47:30outside, they can watch TV outside.
  • 47:33Most people are not claustrophobic
  • 47:35like they would be in an MRI machine.
  • 47:38Some oftentimes if they have
  • 47:40significant claustrophobia,
  • 47:41we give them a little anxiety
  • 47:44medicine and they do fine.
  • 47:47The other very common side effect
  • 47:49which is also temporary can
  • 47:50be middle year better trauma.
  • 47:52So our our sinus squeeze because
  • 47:54these cavities in our scalar airfield,
  • 47:58airfield and can have the pressure if
  • 48:02middle year starts bothering the patient,
  • 48:05they can get a meeting guard and
  • 48:06meet you by an ENT which equalizes
  • 48:08pressure on both sides of the tympanic
  • 48:11membrane and it's very comfortable.
  • 48:13I've never had in my 20 years have
  • 48:16anybody blow out the tympanic membrane.
  • 48:19Those have been reported very,
  • 48:21very rarely,
  • 48:22but those have been in cases where you
  • 48:24really have to increase the hyperbaric
  • 48:27pressure for life saving emergencies
  • 48:29like carbon monoxide poisoning.
  • 48:31But again,
  • 48:32are very rare and most patients
  • 48:35do not even need a tympanic,
  • 48:37you know, maryngotomy.
  • 48:39They're fine by decongestant,
  • 48:42you know, treatment by sprays.
  • 48:45Progressive myopia sometimes happens.
  • 48:47It's seen after many treatments
  • 48:50like 20 or 30 treatments,
  • 48:51but it gets reverted and gets normalized
  • 48:54after we stop hyperbaric treatment.
  • 48:57Any toxicity in the lungs,
  • 49:00which can be like half or some
  • 49:05inspirational burning or any CNS toxicity
  • 49:08which we might think would happen with
  • 49:12oxygen toxicity like seizures or nausea,
  • 49:16vomiting.
  • 49:16These are very,
  • 49:17very rare.
  • 49:18And these will happen after 100
  • 49:21treatments or high pressures which
  • 49:23are not really used in in any
  • 49:26treatment protocols that we use.
  • 49:28So it's very safe treatment.
  • 49:31Next slide, please.
  • 49:34This is an RCDA randomized controlled
  • 49:36trial that was done by doctor Cam Borussi.
  • 49:40When he compared this was a small trial,
  • 49:42but it was very the evidence are very
  • 49:46good with he took 20 patients and
  • 49:50randomized them to either hyperbaric
  • 49:53oxygen or just hyperbaric air.
  • 49:55And these are patients of AVN stage two
  • 49:59AVN and he did pain scores also did
  • 50:06MRI imaging showed that after about
  • 50:0920 treatments the pain got better.
  • 50:11The range of mission got better between
  • 50:1320 and 30 treatments and this is
  • 50:16exactly what we are seeing with the
  • 50:18patients that we have done so far.
  • 50:21It is amazing that after 20 treatments
  • 50:23these patients were walking with a
  • 50:25cane and these are young patients
  • 50:27were walking with a cane or limping.
  • 50:29They come in without their cane in
  • 50:31the centre and not limping anymore.
  • 50:33So these are patients we get very
  • 50:35attached to because they come every day
  • 50:37and the staff gets attached to them.
  • 50:39So when they come without a cane,
  • 50:41you should see the excitement in
  • 50:43the wound center.
  • 50:43It's like, whoa, what happened here?
  • 50:45Look at this patient now he's walking.
  • 50:48So that we have noticing at
  • 50:51about 20 treatment that happens.
  • 50:53And in this trial they followed the
  • 50:55patients for about one year and
  • 50:58seven years with imaging and they
  • 50:59found that none of them needed a hip
  • 51:02replacement and there was complete
  • 51:04resolution in at least seven patients
  • 51:06of the ischemic necrosis.
  • 51:08Now these did not have surgery,
  • 51:10they were just treated with 30
  • 51:13treatments of hyperbaric.
  • 51:15Next slide,
  • 51:16please.
  • 51:17So we have come up with a protocol
  • 51:19and we are still trying to design
  • 51:22A protocol for our study.
  • 51:23But most of these patients are coming
  • 51:26from out of state and we just want
  • 51:28to make sure that we have something
  • 51:30that that is practical for them.
  • 51:33And this is a protocol I came up
  • 51:35with and with Doctor Viznia looking
  • 51:38at the evidence,
  • 51:39looking at the Marks protocol.
  • 51:40Now where is Marks protocol is
  • 51:44based on conditioning for 20
  • 51:46treatments before the surgery.
  • 51:48Now those surgeries are a little extensive,
  • 51:50whereas Dr.
  • 51:51Wisnia surgery is the patient
  • 51:53is up and about and walking.
  • 51:55It's so minimally invasive.
  • 51:58And then he's putting stem cells.
  • 51:59So we said,
  • 52:00OK,
  • 52:00let's just do about two weeks or
  • 52:0310 treatments of conditioning,
  • 52:05then do the core decompression because
  • 52:08I felt the healing should happen
  • 52:11after with the neo vascularization
  • 52:13that we think is happening.
  • 52:15So we are doing four weeks after.
  • 52:18So far this is showing good results,
  • 52:20but we are designing a clinical trial
  • 52:23where we'll do different doses for
  • 52:25hyperbaric to compare really what works.
  • 52:28We don't know yet.
  • 52:29Next slide please.
  • 52:33So this is our program.
  • 52:35Our mission is to provide integrated
  • 52:37care to all avian patients.
  • 52:39These are patients pre collapse
  • 52:41and we hope to coordinate with
  • 52:45other medical specialties.
  • 52:47We want to catch them early.
  • 52:49We want to minimize the risk of having
  • 52:52them undergo hip replacement surgery.
  • 52:54So, so far this is the program and it
  • 52:58is Doctor Viznia's Co decompression.
  • 53:00And then the hyperbaric is I've done
  • 53:03under my supervision at the Lawrence
  • 53:05and Memorial Munden Hyperbaric Center,
  • 53:07which is part of the New Haven Health.
  • 53:11And this is the core orthopaedic surgery team
  • 53:16because we do have other joints
  • 53:19with AVN, so happy to offer
  • 53:22them hyperbaric if they need it.
  • 53:25And Doctor Vizio, do you want to
  • 53:28talk about the last slide, this one?
  • 53:32Yes. So yeah, but we've been,
  • 53:33we've been ramping up over the last
  • 53:36year and we're now at the pace of
  • 53:39doing about 60 core decompressions
  • 53:42a year and dozens of hyperbaric
  • 53:45oxygen therapy treatments at L&M.
  • 53:48And a few months ago,
  • 53:50we had a patient with a vascular
  • 53:52necrosis of their talus and we did
  • 53:54the first total talus replacement in
  • 53:56the health system for that patient.
  • 54:02Again, if you need to get in touch with us,
  • 54:05feel free to e-mail us.
  • 54:07And you can always put an order in Epic.
  • 54:10Just type in AVN or osteonecrosis
  • 54:14or avascular necrosis and we'll
  • 54:16try to help your patients.
  • 54:19And if you have any questions at all,
  • 54:22don't hesitate to reach out.
  • 54:26Thank you. Thank you guys so much.
  • 54:28Really interesting stuff in a topic
  • 54:29we have not had in the past 10 years
  • 54:32I've been directing this course.
  • 54:34So really, really interesting to
  • 54:36hear about what's going on at Yale.
  • 54:38Certainly stuff we have I'd say
  • 54:40more commonly in the outpatient is
  • 54:42historically perhaps before your
  • 54:44program was people on chronic pain
  • 54:47medications for non operative AVN,
  • 54:50which becomes quite a conundrum.
  • 54:53And it's, it's really great to hear that
  • 54:56there are other approaches going on now.
  • 54:59A really great question in the chat by
  • 55:02Doctor Banatowski asking can you talk
  • 55:04briefly about how alendronate is both
  • 55:06a potential cause of osteonecrosis
  • 55:09and a treatment for osteonecrosis?
  • 55:13It it's a great question because it's known
  • 55:16to cause a vascular necrosis in the jaw.
  • 55:19So why would you think it
  • 55:21would help in the femoral head?
  • 55:24Well, the architecture is different
  • 55:27in terms of the blood supply.
  • 55:30And in the femoral head,
  • 55:32the epiphysis of the femoral head has a very,
  • 55:35very poor blood supply.
  • 55:37It's supplied by small little capillaries.
  • 55:40You have to remember that the
  • 55:42cartilage is not perfused at all.
  • 55:44So you have small little capillaries
  • 55:47that are very prone to injury.
  • 55:50And the thought is,
  • 55:53is that the the halodronate in that case
  • 55:57is really preventing osteoclast activity.
  • 56:01So just the progression of the collapse.
  • 56:04Whereas in the jaw again you have
  • 56:09different architecture and it's thought
  • 56:12that the osteo the the reduction of
  • 56:16osteoclast activity may be impacting the
  • 56:19capillaries in that micro environment.
  • 56:23We don't know specifically the mechanism of
  • 56:27how the allodronate causes AVN in the jaw,
  • 56:30but the way I would think about it is
  • 56:32they are different micro environments
  • 56:34that are perfused differently.
  • 56:38That makes a lot of sense
  • 56:40and is very helpful.
  • 56:42Unless there are other questions,
  • 56:44I don't see any in the chat right now.
  • 56:46I just want to thank you
  • 56:48for a fantastic talk.
  • 56:49I think your your message went far and wide,
  • 56:52so hopefully you will be
  • 56:54getting some communication and,
  • 56:56and it's great to know that you guys are
  • 56:59here and this program is here as a resource.
  • 57:01I think it's really intriguing.
  • 57:03I'm still going to make a
  • 57:04plug for the early biomarker.
  • 57:06I think there's some,
  • 57:07some work in the field to be
  • 57:09done that I will not be leading,
  • 57:10but I think it's really fascinating,
  • 57:12right?
  • 57:12Like we're treating everything
  • 57:14at the way margin of once the
  • 57:16the horse is out of the barn.
  • 57:17It's I think it's a a fascinating
  • 57:19and hard to diagnose condition
  • 57:21and we will stay tuned.
  • 57:23Thank you guys so much and
  • 57:24hoping you have a great day.
  • 57:26Thank you and thank you reaching
  • 57:28out. Thank you so much
  • 57:29and lots of thank yous in the chat.
  • 57:32Thank you, thank you. Take
  • 57:35care.