2024 YCCI Multidisciplinary Pre-Doctoral & Post-Doctoral Training Programs Applicant Information Webinar

January 11, 2024

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This webinar is for prospective applicants to learn more about the awards, eligibility, application process, and program requirements. Recorded on January 11, 2024.

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00:00Good morning everyone.
00:02My name is Lloyd Cantly and the other person
00:07helping run this is Christine Costantino,
00:10and this webinar is basically to help
00:14you understand the options available for
00:17applying for either a pre doctoral or
00:22postdoctoral training grant through YCCI.
00:24So I'm going to give you a very
00:27brief little bit of background.
00:29So YCC I I back a long time ago,
00:33almost 20 years ago now,
00:35obtained grant funding from
00:36one of the NIH institutes,
00:38the NCATS to support training
00:42of pre doctoral and postdoctoral
00:45and junior faculty and clinical
00:47and translational research.
00:49And as part of that funding we created
00:54these two specific training programs that
00:58can be applied for by people here at Yale,
01:01one for postdoctoral trainees be
01:04they MD or PhD and one for pre
01:08doctoral trainees again MD or PhD.
01:10And so we're going to just give you
01:12a little bit of the nuts and bolts of
01:14how those programs look and what you
01:16might need to know and to consider
01:18whether you want to apply or not.
01:22And so this is our agenda for the meeting.
01:26We're going to describe the team,
01:28what the two training programs are
01:31and the eligibility requirements.
01:34There are some areas of special emphasis
01:36that we'll talk about briefly and then
01:39Christine's going to talk to you about
01:41the specific application process.
01:46So this is our YCCI education team.
01:50So I'm Lloyd, Jen Edelman,
01:54who is also a professor of medicine.
01:56And Eugene OR Jean Shapiro,
01:58who's a professor in Pediatrics and
02:01infectious disease are the three Co
02:03directors of this educational program
02:05that overseas the pre doctoral,
02:07postdoctoral and junior
02:09faculty training programs.
02:11And then Christine is the person
02:13who actually knows what's going on.
02:14The three of us say a lot of
02:16stuff and blow a lot of smoke,
02:17but Christine actually has all
02:19the the true details of what
02:21happens and how it happens.
02:22So she'll she's the main point person
02:24really for these applications.
02:30So these these two training programs
02:33that were designed around between
02:382010 and 2016 specifically for pre
02:41doctor and post doctoral trainees,
02:43they're two separate applications.
02:45If you're a postdoc, you apply for
02:47the postdoctoral training program.
02:48If they're if you're a pre doc,
02:49you apply for the pre doctoral
02:51training program.
02:52But based on our funding for this,
02:55which is do Ncats, these really require
02:592 components to be viable applications.
03:03One is that the research you're proposing
03:06and your career goal should be aligned
03:10with clinical and translational types
03:13of research focused on a human problem.
03:17Now when we say translational research,
03:20that really has a broad definition.
03:23So, for example,
03:25someone in my lab who might
03:28be doing mouse work,
03:29but it's mouse work that's defined
03:32around a gene mutation that's
03:34involved in kidney disease in humans.
03:37That would be seen as translational
03:40research because it's research applied to
03:43a specific problem that affects humans.
03:46So it doesn't mean you have to
03:48be working with human samples to
03:49apply for this for these awards.
03:51In other words.
03:53And the second piece,
03:54besides the fact that they need to be
03:57clinical or translational types of research,
03:59is that there's a strong emphasis on
04:02the training being multidisciplinary
04:05for both of these programs.
04:06And what that basically means is
04:08that if you have a primary mentor
04:10who is in a particular department
04:13and has a particular focus and
04:15particular type of research,
04:16we strongly encourage the applicants
04:18for this program to have a secondary
04:21mentor who's in a different
04:23section or department who might.
04:25So for example might be a
04:27biostatistician who would help you
04:29with understanding how you use
04:31statistical approaches to analyze
04:33clinical data that might be an example.
04:36So a single mentor that's
04:39focused on A1 particular area,
04:41those type of applications tend not to
04:44be scored as highly for these programs
04:46as those that are multidisciplinary
04:49and often these involve team research
04:50where you may have two or three
04:53different mentors involved in helping
04:55you develop a multidisciplinary team.
04:58The awards are for one year,
05:01but you can apply for a second year.
05:03It requires a a new application.
05:06We're in the process of discussing
05:09right now the potential for having a
05:11two year award for the postdoctoral
05:15slots rather than just a one year award.
05:18But as of this year,
05:19it's a one year award.
05:21You would say your science should be
05:23describing what you would do in one year.
05:26And then if you get the award and
05:28you want to apply for a second year,
05:29you would go through the application
05:32a year from now for that second year.
05:34But you would use most of the same materials.
05:36But you would have to update it with
05:38a few things that we'll talk about
05:40with the progress report basically
05:41and an updated mentor statement
05:43talking about your progress.
05:47So trainees who are from groups who
05:51are traditionally underrepresented
05:52in medical research careers are
05:54strongly encouraged to apply.
05:56We very much value those applications.
05:59We look at them very carefully,
06:01and so anyone who comes from
06:05one of those backgrounds,
06:07we strongly encourage you to
06:08contact us if you're questioning
06:10whether you should apply and if
06:11you are interested in applying,
06:13we strongly encourage you to apply.
06:16This provides salary support for you,
06:20and that salary support includes A
06:24stipend for healthcare coverage.
06:26If there is money leftover from
06:28that healthcare coverage,
06:29that typically is not very much because
06:32the base the way the NIH sets up the funding.
06:35This isn't controlled by us,
06:37but if there is a little bit
06:38of money leftover,
06:38sometimes there'll be 1000 or $1500
06:41leftover that can then be used for
06:43research types of usage like software
06:45that you need for your computer or some
06:48reagents that you might need or something.
06:51But basically this is not providing
06:53you with the money to fund your
06:56mice or fund your assay development.
06:59It's really for salary and healthcare
07:01coverage of the predominant parts of this.
07:03As I mentioned,
07:04it's funded by Ncats,
07:05the National Center for Clinical and
07:09Translational Science and this these
07:12two programs are specifically funded
07:14by our TL1 component of our grant,
07:18which is very similar to AT32 actually.
07:20And if you are awarded one of
07:24these and you accept that award,
07:27you are then one of our YCCI scholars.
07:30And that comes with a lot of good things,
07:33but it also comes with some obligations.
07:36And so the obligations are that
07:38we have a research in progress
07:41meeting twice a month and you'll be
07:43expected to participate in that,
07:44both attending when you're not presenting,
07:46but also once a year presenting in that.
07:49Those are the research and progress seminars.
07:51There's a summer sessions of scholar
07:53orientation that we call rockets and
07:55you'll be expected to participate
07:57in that and that basically these
07:59are useful things to you because
08:01they help you improve your skills
08:03and your own presentation.
08:05The scholar orientation gives you
08:07a lot of information about what's
08:10available at Yale for your research.
08:12There's also the Robert Sherwin All Scholars
08:14Day that's going to be coming up in May.
08:17That happens once a year and
08:18you'll participate in that,
08:19present a poster and there are other
08:21things that that are described in
08:24this that that you'll be expected
08:26to participate in as part of being
08:27a YCCI scholar.
08:33So eligibility for the pre doc,
08:35you have to be at Yale as a student
08:39at Yale enrolled and in good
08:41standing in either the MD program.
08:42So this would typically be and we've
08:44had many of these, the 5th year.
08:46So if you're looking to do,
08:48if you're a medical student and you're
08:50thinking to do the fifth year of research,
08:52this would be a pathway
08:55to fund that fifth year.
08:57If you're in the MDPHD program
09:00and need funding for part of
09:02your PhD research training,
09:03this would be a way to obtain the
09:05year of funding for that and again
09:07with potential to get a second year.
09:09Or if you're in a PhD program,
09:12if you're in the PhD program,
09:14you have to have passed your qualifiers
09:16to be eligible to be in this program.
09:19Oh, sorry, that's in the second line there.
09:20Yes, so so you would if you're
09:24in one and and this PhD,
09:26you could be in the PhD program
09:28in biomedical engineering,
09:29in public health and it's across multiple
09:31schools in the School of Nursing,
09:33the School of Medicine.
09:35So it's not restricted to
09:36the School of Medicine.
09:37As long as your mentor and your
09:39research is focused on clinical
09:41or translational types of
09:43research affecting human disease,
09:44then you would be eligible to apply.
09:48So if you've been on the TL1 two
09:52years you are no longer eligible.
09:54So you can only get a maximum
09:56of two years of support.
09:57But as again as I mentioned you
10:00would apply for that first year
10:02and then apply for a second year.
10:04And we are thinking for the
10:06future of having potential for
10:07a two year application slot.
10:09But as of this year,
10:10it's a one year you need to be a
10:13citizen or a green card holder
10:15or non citizen national since
10:17these are funded by the the
10:19National Institutes of Health.
10:23And if you've already had four
10:26years of support on the NRSA
10:30or similar national funding,
10:32you would not be eligible for
10:34further funding on this using this.
10:39So those are some of the restrictions,
10:41and again, this should all be on the website
10:47postdocs. You must be at Yale.
10:51Doing a postdoctoral training again,
10:53in any one of the schools is eligible
10:55as long as your research is focused on
10:58clinical and translational research.
10:59Similarly, if you've already had
11:01two years on the TL1 as a postdoc,
11:03you would not be eligible for a third year.
11:05You have to be AUS citizen,
11:07and if you've already received more
11:10than two years of support through
11:12NIH Postdoctoral Training Grants,
11:14you wouldn't be eligible
11:16for applying through this
11:20so, very similar.
11:22Lloyd, we have a question in the chat.
11:25What if you expect to pass qualifying
11:28exams prior to the start date,
11:30but have not yet passed the qualifying exams?
11:33But then you would be eligible.
11:35You have to, you have to have passed your
11:37qualifiers at the time you would start.
11:40So assuming that your qualifiers are
11:43scheduled to occur before the start date,
11:46then you should be eligible
11:47as long as you pass them.
11:51Great, thanks.
11:57So these are areas of special
12:01emphasis that we're this is
12:04based on the thematic components
12:07of the overall CTSA for Yale,
12:10of which this TL1 is one piece.
12:12There's multiple pieces to the CTSA.
12:14It's a much larger grant and so these areas,
12:19if your research for example
12:22is in HealthEquity,
12:24if that's your focus of interest,
12:26then those applications will be
12:31preferred for topic of interest.
12:34We don't actually have a
12:36specific scoring mechanism.
12:37In other words,
12:38we don't change your score on.
12:40These are evaluated in a study
12:42section approach where they're given
12:44to three reviewers to review and
12:46those reviewers review them in a
12:48very much a study section like very
12:50similar to an NIH study section,
12:52basically identical.
12:53And then based on the scores and
12:55the voting of the whole study
12:57section each each application
12:58is assigned A composite score
13:00and they're funded based in on
13:02the priority of those scores.
13:05But if we have two applications
13:07that are close to fundable level
13:09and one's on HealthEquity research
13:11and one's on something else,
13:13that HealthEquity research application
13:15is going to get preferred status
13:18because that's within the special
13:20emphasis of our overall CTSA.
13:22SO3 areas that are that are definitely
13:28of interest to the CTSA are the
13:31promotion of implementation science,
13:32community engaged research,
13:35HealthEquity research.
13:36And we at Yale are very highly
13:41interested in increasing our
13:43diversity in the the applicant pool
13:45of doing translational research.
13:47And so these are all areas that we are
13:51encouraging strongly people who are
13:53doing these types of research to apply.
14:01OK, I think, Christine,
14:02are you taking this from here?
14:04Yes, I'll take this from here.
14:07All right. So the application process,
14:11as you all know we've released the
14:14RFA and application in November.
14:16This month we're doing the
14:18webinar as you all are here.
14:20All of the applications,
14:22so pre doc applications and postdoc
14:24applications are due on Friday,
14:26March 8th, 5:00 PM.
14:31From there, I will do the internal
14:34review making sure everything is in order
14:37before passing them along to our expert
14:40faculty to review the applications.
14:43And that will happen between March and April.
14:47Then we'll have our review meeting in
14:52the end of around the end of April.
14:55And then in May I'll do just
14:58in time requests.
15:00Basically,
15:01that means we'll make we'll ask
15:06for other support information
15:11in the case that you have any
15:14other grants NIH grants pending
15:20because as you may know,
15:22you cannot accept more than
15:24one NIH grant at the time,
15:26but you can have them pending
15:29and then we'll do notifications.
15:32The early start date for these
15:35is June 1st, which is based on
15:38our TL1 grant year start date
15:44and I'll talk about that in a little bit.
15:47And then July is when programming
15:49begins for all of our scholars.
15:51As Lloyd mentioned, we have our
15:55orientation and summer programming
15:57and that's when July it'll begin.
16:05So as I mentioned, Friday,
16:07March 8th is the application due date.
16:12The Word document applications
16:14for both the pre doctoral and
16:17postdoctoral programs are on the
16:20respective web pages already.
16:24So please be sure to follow
16:25the instructions that are
16:27listed in the applications.
16:28And I just wanted to point
16:30out a couple of things here.
16:34Those of you who will be reapplying
16:37for a second year of support,
16:40make sure you include A1 page
16:43pre application summary with your
16:46describing your previous aims,
16:48what has changed, your progress.
16:52Your other support document needs to be
16:54completed with your business office,
16:56so this includes your current grant
16:59information and any pending grants.
17:01So if you're also applying
17:04for an F30F31 AK 99,
17:07what have you that needs to be included?
17:13Also be sure to read through
17:15what needs to be included in
17:17your mentor's letters of support,
17:20your commitment that they will
17:22cover any additional costs.
17:25As Lloyd mentioned,
17:27the training related expenses is
17:30primarily for your healthcare costs.
17:34So if you're going to need any additional
17:37money to cover research costs,
17:42your mentors are likely going
17:43to have to cover that for you.
17:46And then for those again who are
17:48reapplying for a second year,
17:50make sure your mentors comment on
17:53your progress made during the first
17:55year and then finally make sure you
17:57use the correct version of the forms.
18:00So for the bio sketch that it's
18:03the fellowship Bio sketch and the
18:05correct version and the correct
18:08version of the other support.
18:10Christine, there's a question.
18:11Yes, I see that.
18:14OK Are recipients of these grants
18:17considered postdoctoral fellows
18:19or postdoctoral associates?
18:21Oh, that's a great question, Ruth.
18:23First, so your your appointment
18:25is determined by your department,
18:27whoever hired you, not by us.
18:29We fund your salary.
18:31But what your appointment title is
18:33really comes from whoever has hired you.
18:38Yeah, there is.
18:43I'm trying to remember which one it is.
18:45It there is a requirement that it has to
18:48be either the fellow or the associate,
18:51and I forget which one it is.
18:53Your business office will know the answer.
18:59OK, let's see. Next question.
19:02What's the difference between the personal
19:04statement and the bio sketch and the
19:07statement of purpose for the grant?
19:11A personal statement in a bio sketch is
19:14typically like something about generally
19:16about you as a researcher that is not
19:19specific to anyone particular grant.
19:21The statement of purpose for
19:23the grant is what what you're
19:24planning to do for that grant,
19:26specifically the their The personal
19:28statement in your bio sketch is
19:31a much more general statement.
19:33Typically some people can align them,
19:36but that's not always the case.
19:43OK,
19:45all right, I'm going to move on.
19:49OK, so for the Pre Doctoral
19:52online submission form,
19:54this is a Qualtrics form.
19:57You'll complete some basic
19:59questions in the beginning.
20:00And then you'll upload
20:02your application package.
20:04Again, everything's included in the Word
20:07document that's listed on the web page,
20:10but I've outlined it here to
20:12give you just an overview,
20:14so the abstract half a page,
20:18the reapplication summary,
20:19if that's applicable to you.
20:21Again, this is only for
20:23those applying for a second.
20:24Here of support is one page,
20:27the research plan narrative, 3 pages,
20:31references as needed and that's citation
20:37references and then statement of purpose,
20:392 pages, your bio sketch.
20:43And here I put in it's the fellowship
20:47version revision October of 2021.
20:50Your other support as many pages as needed.
20:54Again,
20:54it's revision 10/21 and you're
20:56going to work with your business
20:58office on creating that.
21:00And then your letters of support from
21:03primary and secondary mentors up to 2 pages.
21:06And then at the end there are
21:09some basic reporting questions
21:12related to the CTSA.
21:18So for the post doctoral
21:20online submission form,
21:21it's basically the same as the pre
21:24doctoral with a few additional pieces
21:27as part of the application package.
21:30So the first eight pieces are the same,
21:34and then at the end you have 3 letters
21:37of reference to include one page each
21:40and a department letter of commitment.
21:44That's one page.
21:48There's These page limits are the maximum,
21:50so it's not that they have to be one page,
21:52it's just the longest.
21:54And your letters of reference,
21:55ideally here, should be.
21:57Often people will use whoever
21:59their PhD mentor was, for example,
22:02or someone who has had familiarity
22:05with their research that they've done
22:08prior to this particular postdoc,
22:12or a collaborator who's had
22:14familiarity with their research.
22:16This. Typically those are the types
22:18of people you use for these letters.
22:24OK,
22:28OK, now I just put together
22:29a couple of do's and don'ts.
22:32Do make sure that your mentor
22:34mentors review your application.
22:37You want to make sure that your application
22:39is free of spelling and grammar errors.
22:42That's true of your bio sketches as well.
22:48If you're going to use acronyms,
22:50make sure you write them out the first time.
22:53Or better yet, don't use them at all.
22:56And be sure to review the RFA
22:59and the instructions before
23:01you submit your application.
23:03And don't forget to include a letter
23:06of support for each of your mentors.
23:09I will be doing, as I mentioned,
23:11the internal review once all
23:14of the applications come in,
23:16but it it really helps if you
23:19make sure that all of these things
23:21are in place ahead of time.
23:28OK. In terms of the application
23:31review process, as Lloyd mentioned,
23:35the reviewers will be evaluating
23:39your applications on the applicant.
23:43You, the applicant yourself,
23:45the mentoring plan, innovation,
23:47significance and approach of your research,
23:51commitment to multidisciplinary science.
23:55And then if you are applying related to
24:00one of the areas of special emphasis,
24:03diversity, HealthEquity,
24:04research, Community, Engage,
24:06research or implementation science.
24:09OK, I see we have a couple of questions.
24:16What is the best way to include our
24:19unpublished data within the three
24:21page limit for the research plan?
24:24Do figures count towards
24:25the three page limit?
24:30Lloyd, you're muted.
24:33Thank you. This is typically
24:36your preliminary results.
24:38So basically you start out with your,
24:41what your specific aims are going to
24:44be some background and then you provide
24:47if you have at the preliminary data
24:50that you have that's going to support
24:53how you're developing your aims.
24:55And so that's where you show your
24:57preliminary data and figures.
24:58And yes, they count.
25:01So if you've published something,
25:03you can reference that publication.
25:05And but even there,
25:07if there's a critical figure in that
25:10publication that really cements for
25:13a reviewer that you have valid data,
25:17that supports why you've chosen
25:18to go a certain direction.
25:20And with your specific aims,
25:21you should show it in the grant,
25:23because reviewers are not required
25:26to read all of your citations,
25:29so they don't have to go pull
25:32that paper and read it.
25:34So you would.
25:34And this is all, all this is standard NIH,
25:36it's exactly the way the NIH does it.
25:38So if you have some key
25:40data that's going to that,
25:42you're that's the foundation of why
25:44you're taking the direction you're taking.
25:46That should be in your preliminary results.
25:48And if there are figures
25:49that make that clear,
25:50that's the easiest way to show it typically.
25:55OK And another question is the personal
25:58statement in the bio sketch where
26:00we mentioned how we're involved in
26:03diversity and translational research.
26:05If not, do we mention that anywhere
26:08in the written portion of the grant?
26:11So there are questions that you will
26:14answer in the online application
26:17itself where you will note this.
26:20So there'll be a question related to
26:23areas of special emphasis where you
26:25will check off whether you're where,
26:28whether you are applying to one
26:31of those areas.
26:32If does that answer the question?
26:34Well,
26:35I and so I would add to that.
26:36So Christine's absolutely correct.
26:38But I would add to that if you have a strong
26:45focus on any of the areas of special
26:48emphasis, those can be mentioned
26:50in your personal statement on
26:52your CV but or your buyer sketch.
26:55But that's not the critical place
26:57that those should really be in
26:59your statement of purpose because
27:01those relate directly to this
27:04application as opposed to just kind
27:06of your general the buyer sketch,
27:08like I said is more of a general thing.
27:11Jane Doe began her research career
27:15when she was an undergraduate at
27:17such and such and did such and such
27:20and she has remained focused on it.
27:22It it's kind of a general overview
27:25of your life as a researcher,
27:28whereas for this particular grant that
27:29we have these special emphasis areas.
27:32So if you believe that your background
27:35or your proposal is aligns with
27:37one of these special emphasis area
27:39that that would go in that two
27:41page statement of purpose part.
27:45Yeah, I guess it should also be
27:49noted that related to diversity
27:52and health related research,
27:55there are a couple of different ways
28:00you can I guess qualify for that,
28:03so to speak. And it's,
28:05it's outlined in the online application
28:09and there are questions related to that
28:12and there's an NIH statement and link.
28:17So it's related to ethnicity, race,
28:23background and what's the 4th one disability.
28:31So there'll be questions
28:33related to that as well,
28:35but they're completely anonymous and
28:38if you don't want to answer them,
28:40you can check off a box that says withheld.
28:45So just a little bit of background on that.
28:48Yeah. So this. Yeah.
28:50So this is a good example of the
28:53difference between an application,
28:54the application and the review.
28:56So again, as as Christine just said,
28:58all those things are specifically there.
29:01But weaving that information into
29:03that statement is what the where
29:06the reviewer really sees it and
29:09that's where they understand that
29:13this has an importance to you and
29:17your and importance to your research
29:19career and your training career.
29:22And that's.
29:22So I think that's where it will
29:24have the biggest impact from
29:25the standpoint of how the review
29:27goes as opposed to having checked
29:29all the appropriate boxes,
29:30which has to happen as well.
29:32I get it,
29:33But I'm just telling you that
29:35a lot of this comes down to the
29:36review and the reviewers really
29:37going to see it mostly.
29:38But then that statement.
29:41Yeah, I should also mention that
29:44the demographic information that
29:45you check off on the application
29:48is not seen by the reviewers.
29:49The reviewer doesn't see that. Correct.
29:55OK. So in terms of the award notification,
30:01our goal is to notify all applicants
30:03by just of decisions by May.
30:06As I mentioned earlier,
30:08our earliest start date will be June 1st,
30:11coincide with the start of our grant year.
30:13We can accommodate July one for
30:17start dates as that's our fiscal
30:20year start date for the university
30:23and we do have some flexibility
30:25to accommodate later start dates
30:28for folks who are on grants that
30:30might be ending a little bit later.
30:35OK, That's all we have for our presentation.
30:40Are there other questions?
30:43And feel free to unmute yourselves
30:45of you when I just ask the question,
31:03oh, OK, here's a question. Can you have
31:05mentors from outside of Yale? Yes,
31:09your your primary mentor
31:10needs to be a Yale mentor.
31:12But having secondary mentors
31:14that are outside of Yale is
31:16definitely acceptable and that's
31:18been that's not uncommon actually,
31:20especially if you're if you're
31:22working in a particularly niche area
31:25or a unique particular expertise.
31:28And the best expertise for that
31:30is someone at UCSD or somewhere
31:32else and there's a you have
31:35a connection to that person.
31:38Absolutely.
31:38And we recognize that in the
31:40world of Zoom that those kinds of
31:43things can work fairly seamlessly.
31:45What I would be cautious about is
31:47identifying someone that you don't
31:50actually have an existing interaction
31:52with and getting them to be a
31:54mentor when there's really not a
31:56history of you having interactions
31:58with them that it looks a little
32:01bit too much like grantsmanship,
32:03but not like a viable model for
32:06someone to be effectively mentored.
32:08But it's not uncommon to have someone
32:11as a mentor somewhere else who
32:13will interact with your committee,
32:15will interact with your primary mentor,
32:17will interact with you on a regular basis,
32:19and there's existing reason to believe
32:21that that interaction will actually happen.
32:27Oh, I'm sorry.
32:28I'll add one more thing to that.
32:30If it's a technical thing where that
32:33mentor is has a particular expertise
32:35that you want for your application,
32:37for your grant and that expertise
32:39is something you have to have
32:41hands on experience with.
32:42I would strongly encourage you to
32:44include in your description that you're
32:47planning to go to that site wherever
32:50it is and spend X time learning
32:53that hands on technical expertise.
32:56I've seen some of these applications
32:57where people have a mentor
32:58and they're at, you know,
33:02wherever UT Southwestern and they
33:04do something that's very technical,
33:07some assay or something,
33:09but the person doesn't actually
33:11say that they're going to go there.
33:13So you you need to spend some time
33:15with that person if you're like
33:16going to learn technical things with
33:17them and that should be mentioned in
33:19their letter and in your application.
33:24So as a follow up question,
33:26can mentors be outside the US and
33:29is international research also
33:31funded or does research have to
33:33be focused on the US population?
33:36No. International's perfectly acceptable.
33:38You're, as I said, the mentor.
33:39Many people will will have a primary
33:43Yale mentor, but they'll go off
33:46site for the actual research.
33:48There's many examples of that. Again,
33:51this isn't funding the actual research,
33:55it's funding your salary to do that research.
33:59So the funding for the actual research
34:02then obviously has to come from your
34:04mentor through some other source.
34:09And another question that came to me,
34:12can you have concurrent NIH
34:14funding for separate aims?
34:16For example F31 for one dissertation
34:19aim and the YCCI for another aim
34:27and I'm pretty sure the answer's no.
34:30But you have to you have to provide
34:3275% time on this so I don't,
34:38I think if it's non overlapping names,
34:40I think you're allowed to be have
34:43partial funding from something else.
34:44Whether it's NIH or not, I don't know.
34:47I don't think you can have more
34:50than one NIH grant at a time for
34:54these particular training grants.
34:56Yeah, because we've had folks with
35:01an F30 or F31 and they haven't
35:05been able to have the T31 as well
35:08or sorry, the TL1 as well.
35:11Yeah, I don't think you can
35:12have those concurrently, no.
35:14But whether you could, you
35:17can apply for both and have
35:18both pending at the same time,
35:21but you can't accept both. That's correct.
35:24So that's why we ask for the other
35:26support document, so that we know if
35:29you have another NIH grant pending.
35:36All right.
35:39Do we have other questions?
35:45I think we've answered all of the
35:47ones I've seen in the chat so far.
35:56All right. So you guys can obviously
35:59e-mail Christine or myself or
36:01Jean or Jen. Remember, Jean Shapiro
36:03and Jen Edelman are the other 2P is.
36:07And if you have other questions come to you,
36:10Christine typically has the
36:12most detailed information about
36:13the specific process of this.
36:15But if you have more general questions,
36:17you're welcome to e-mail any of us.
36:21All right. Well, thank you all
36:24for spending your morning with us.