Interventional Hepatology with David Madoff
May 13, 2022Information
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- 00:11Welcome back, this session is being recorded.
- 00:18Hello, welcome back.
- 00:20My name is Chen Liu from pathology.
- 00:23It is my pleasure to
- 00:25introduce the next speaker,
- 00:27doctor David Medoff and Doctor Medoff
- 00:29is a professor of radiology and he's
- 00:32also the vice Chair for clinical
- 00:35research and the section chief for
- 00:38interventional radiology of useful medicine.
- 00:41So today he's going to talk about
- 00:44is interventional hepatology.
- 00:46Welcome, David, now is yours.
- 00:54Can you see? Yes, we can see it.
- 00:59OK, so thanks Chen.
- 01:01I would like to thank Mike Mario
- 01:03and the Planning Committee for
- 01:05inviting me to speak today.
- 01:07I am truly honored to serve as faculty
- 01:09for Yale Liver Center's Diamond Jubilee,
- 01:11a major notable achievement.
- 01:13My role today is to introduce the
- 01:15topic of interventional hepatology
- 01:16and how it is incorporated into the
- 01:19algorithm for treating patients
- 01:20with hepatobiliary disease at Yale.
- 01:22I must admit that I was a little
- 01:24nervous to talk about this,
- 01:26given the title, as I wasn't planning
- 01:28to devise and discuss a paradigm.
- 01:30For an entirely new field
- 01:33of interventional medicine,
- 01:34fortunately I was asked to focus
- 01:36on how IR interacts with cells.
- 01:38Multidisciplinary,
- 01:38hepatobiliary care team,
- 01:40and manage many of the most complex,
- 01:43challenging and sickest patients
- 01:45we see here at Yale.
- 01:47Therefore,
- 01:48despite the considerable amount of
- 01:50basic and translational research that
- 01:53we're doing at Yale and in this field,
- 01:55I will focus today on its clinical
- 01:57aspects and highlight them by
- 01:59showing some interesting cases.
- 02:07So what is interventional hepatology?
- 02:10Although there has been 80 years
- 02:11of the battle, biliary imaging for
- 02:13both diagnosis and intervention,
- 02:15it has not been formally defined like it
- 02:17has been for interventional oncology to me,
- 02:20interventional hepatology is subspecialty
- 02:22of IR that utilizes minimally invasive
- 02:25image guided procedures to diagnose
- 02:27and treat patients with various
- 02:30forms of hepatobiliary disease.
- 02:32Clearly there is some overlap
- 02:34with interventional oncology,
- 02:36such as treating tumors like
- 02:38HCC and Colangelo carcinoma,
- 02:40but there are also areas that don't overlap,
- 02:42such as managing the sequelae of portal
- 02:45hypertension, benign biliary strictures,
- 02:47destroy malformations, and trauma.
- 02:51And in terms of training,
- 02:52many in the audience may not be
- 02:54aware that IR is now a formalized,
- 02:56a CGM accredited categorical residency,
- 02:58where medical students can now
- 03:00match directly into it.
- 03:02Residents have a one year clinical internship
- 03:04followed by five years of radiology,
- 03:06with the final two years dedicated
- 03:08to interventional radiology.
- 03:09Imaging, of course,
- 03:11is a critical component to training as
- 03:13our patient as the patients we treat
- 03:16and the procedures we offer require a
- 03:19deep understanding of how the images are.
- 03:22Gained, interpreted,
- 03:23and ultimately used interprocedural.
- 03:25Clearly you understanding of complex
- 03:28Physiology is also important.
- 03:30And yeah, it was part of their internship.
- 03:31Our residents rotate on the classifying
- 03:34service and IR residents as well as
- 03:37faculty take part in inpatient consults,
- 03:39outpatient clinics,
- 03:40liver tumor boards,
- 03:41and portal hypertension conferences.
- 03:43We also recently implemented the
- 03:46nation's first IR night float system
- 03:48so patients can be seen and evaluated
- 03:51rapidly even in the middle of the night.
- 03:54So at Yale,
- 03:55we have 17 clinical IR faculty
- 03:57who help in providing the most
- 03:59comprehensive care possible for
- 04:01patients with a paddle biliary disease.
- 04:03Here you can see a long list of
- 04:05procedures performed by our team,
- 04:06which ranged from pretentious
- 04:07or transcellular.
- 04:08Image guided biopsy, tumor therapy,
- 04:12palliative procedures,
- 04:13central venous access,
- 04:15and managing complications like
- 04:16those seen after transplant,
- 04:17their resection,
- 04:18or simply as a result of their
- 04:21underlying liver disease.
- 04:22So let's start with understanding how we
- 04:23can help in the management of liver cancer.
- 04:25There are three key goals we
- 04:28are which are potential for cure
- 04:30conversion of unacceptability to
- 04:32resectability and for palliation.
- 04:34How we decide depends on the tumor Histology,
- 04:37the number and location of
- 04:39tumors within the liver,
- 04:40the extent of underlying liver disease,
- 04:42and the presence or absence
- 04:45of extrahepatic disease.
- 04:46So I wanted to start by discussing
- 04:48one method by which we can convert
- 04:50unresectable patients to resectable by
- 04:52simply manipulating the livers portal.
- 04:54Blood flow with the procedural
- 04:56portal vein embolization in patients
- 04:58whose surgery will leave them
- 04:59with an inadequate remnant liver,
- 05:01P VE redirects portal blood flow to the
- 05:03future liver remnant that by doing so,
- 05:05can initiate hypertrophy of
- 05:06the non embolized segments.
- 05:08PE has been shown to reduce perioperative
- 05:10complications and increase the number
- 05:12of potential surgical candidates who
- 05:14have what we call marginal anticipated.
- 05:16I feel our volumes,
- 05:18user PVE,
- 05:19has therefore been able to
- 05:21achieve similar survival rates to
- 05:22surgical patients who initially
- 05:24did not require PV E.
- 05:26Next we move to percutaneous ablation.
- 05:28The goals of ablation are to eradicate
- 05:30all viable malignant cells while
- 05:32sparing normal surrounding tissues.
- 05:33Additionally, we can treat tumors with
- 05:36unfavorable location or patterns of
- 05:38distribution for resection and those
- 05:39with multiple comorbidities that can,
- 05:41in fact, undergo surgery.
- 05:44Population is most often used in patients
- 05:46with low volume disease which could,
- 05:48which could include potential first
- 05:49line cure or as a bridge to transplant.
- 05:52These procedures are typically done in the
- 05:55outpatient setting and are repeatable.
- 05:56We have many types of ablation
- 05:58devices which different energy used
- 06:00and this is just a short list.
- 06:01We can radio frequency,
- 06:02use radio frequency to cook the tumors,
- 06:05microwave to boil them,
- 06:06fry oblation to freeze them and the
- 06:08new kid on the block is irreversible.
- 06:10Electroporation to electrocute them.
- 06:14We can also treat tumors as
- 06:16a transarterial approaches.
- 06:17Transarterial therapies were
- 06:18initiated over 4 decades ago.
- 06:20Since most liver tumors receive blood
- 06:21supply largely from the optic artery,
- 06:23and are often highly vascular.
- 06:25Using current state of the art
- 06:27catheter and imaging technology,
- 06:29we can selectively and locally deliver
- 06:31intraarterial therapeutics to the tumor bed.
- 06:33Thus,
- 06:34we can effectively target tumors while
- 06:36sparing surrounding hepatic parenchyma,
- 06:38thus minimizing systemic complications,
- 06:41and toxicities.
- 06:42Transarterial therapies are
- 06:43usually reserved for.
- 06:44Patients with higher tumor burdens
- 06:46in new adjuvant settings and in
- 06:48difficult or dangerous locations
- 06:50for resection or ablation.
- 06:52In terms of specifics,
- 06:53there was bland embolization in
- 06:55which embolization is performed
- 06:57without chemotherapy.
- 06:58The goal is to completely occlude
- 06:59the tumor feeding vessels,
- 07:00which result in a schema and rapid necrosis.
- 07:03Conventional taste is divided,
- 07:05is is defined as the infusion of
- 07:07a mixture of chemotherapeutic
- 07:09agents with or without iodized oil,
- 07:11followed by embolization with particles.
- 07:13This iodized oil, when used,
- 07:15is taken up selectively and retained
- 07:17by HCC and acts as both an embolic and
- 07:20drug delivery vehicle given some potential.
- 07:23Albeit rare systemic toxicities,
- 07:25the idea for drug eluting beads
- 07:27loaded with chemotherapy came about
- 07:28which would theoretically be more
- 07:30predictable in terms of drug washout,
- 07:32leading to a potentially
- 07:34better toxicity profile.
- 07:36And lastly,
- 07:37there's radioembolization in which glass or
- 07:40resin microspheres are tagged atrium 90.
- 07:42These microspheres permanently lodged
- 07:44within terminal arterials of tumors
- 07:46and deliver high dose beta radiation.
- 07:49They kill the tumor.
- 07:51So this is the recently updated
- 07:54Barcelona Liver Clinton Barcelona
- 07:56Clinic liver cancer staging for HCC
- 07:58which is now much more comprehensive
- 08:01than previous iterations.
- 08:03So where does interventional
- 08:05hepatology fit in this paradigm?
- 08:08Of course,
- 08:09transplanted hepatitis and resection
- 08:11are key curative treatment options,
- 08:14but defining resectability can be difficult.
- 08:16Resectability is not just based
- 08:17on tumor size and location,
- 08:19but also on the size,
- 08:20quality and function of the underlying liver.
- 08:22Therefore,
- 08:22even those with early stages of disease,
- 08:25many patients may not be deemed
- 08:27safe for resection.
- 08:28Therefore,
- 08:29when discussing management
- 08:30of unresectable HCC,
- 08:32there are many ways to cure
- 08:33patients without surgery and
- 08:34some patients who may be unresectable
- 08:36due to an insufficient future live.
- 08:38Pregnant or or may require downstage,
- 08:41and that can be converted to respectability
- 08:43and successfully undergo surgery.
- 08:45To that end, those that are within
- 08:48Milan criteria that is early HCC and
- 08:50deemed unresectable due to various
- 08:52comorbidities or patient preference.
- 08:54Ablation is a great option for those in
- 08:57early stage when resection transplant
- 08:59and ablation options are not feasible.
- 09:01Fans arterial therapies can be offered.
- 09:03In fact, Radioembolization for the
- 09:05first time has made it into the BCLC,
- 09:07but only for single lesions
- 09:09larger than 8 centimeters.
- 09:11Further transfer trial therapy for
- 09:12years has been the standard of care for
- 09:15patients with intermediate HCC and lastly,
- 09:17for diffusely infiltrative disease by
- 09:19low bar disease or advanced disease.
- 09:22There are numerous systemic therapeutics
- 09:24that can be used that can be used
- 09:27either alone or in combination
- 09:28with local regional therapies and
- 09:30clinical trials are ongoing.
- 09:32So how about for intrahepatic
- 09:34cholangio carcinoma?
- 09:35At present,
- 09:35there are no formalized guidelines
- 09:37for the local regional management
- 09:38of intermatic landrew carcinoma
- 09:40with unclear and limited evidence,
- 09:42supported chiefs local ablation may
- 09:44be used for patients with early stage
- 09:46disease or ineligible for surgery,
- 09:48and regional therapies typically reserved
- 09:49for those with disease that's more advanced,
- 09:52and even the NCCN guidelines and a
- 09:54recent paper from Nature Reviews
- 09:55gastroenterology and Hepatology do not
- 09:58explicitly mention ablation in the paradigm,
- 10:00although they do mention
- 10:01local regional therapy.
- 10:02Unresectable liver dominant disease.
- 10:05So I wanted to show a case of how
- 10:08interventional hepatology can be used to
- 10:10treat a typical patient with liver cancer.
- 10:13So this is a 48 year old female
- 10:16with biopsy proven multifocal
- 10:17intrahepatic Andrew carcinoma having
- 10:19a 4.5 centimeter mass in segment 7
- 10:22and a 7.7 centimeter infiltrative
- 10:24mass and segments four and five.
- 10:26She had lymphadenopathy in the
- 10:28gallbladder and Porta Hepatus.
- 10:30There were no masses seen in
- 10:31the left lateral liver and there
- 10:33were no peritoneal implants.
- 10:34She was considered for an
- 10:35extended right up protecting me,
- 10:37but the FLRW was deemed
- 10:38insufficient for safe resection.
- 10:40Therefore P VE was requested to have
- 10:42purchase. The floor preoperatively.
- 10:44Here you see a right PV E with extension
- 10:47to the segment 4 Portal vein branches.
- 10:50There is occlusion of portal flow
- 10:52to the entire liver to be resected
- 10:54with complete diversion of flow
- 10:56to the left lateral liver.
- 10:57One month later,
- 10:58enough FLR hypertrophy occurred
- 11:00to proceed with resection.
- 11:02So an extended by Hepatectomy,
- 11:04cholecystectomy and regional Lymphadenectomy
- 11:05was performed with pathology showing.
- 11:07You basically had no carcinoma of
- 11:09intrahepatic bile ducts with multiple
- 11:11positive regional lymph nodes.
- 11:13She underwent adjuvant chemotherapy with
- 11:15gemcitabine and cisplatin for six months
- 11:17but nine months later there were two
- 11:19new small tumors in the remnant liver,
- 11:21one in segment 2 and the other in
- 11:24the junction of segments 2 and three,
- 11:26and there was also increased size
- 11:29of retroviral lymphadenopathy.
- 11:31Both tumors were successfully treated
- 11:33with microwave ablation as shown here.
- 11:36Subsequently,
- 11:36adjuvant chemotherapy with
- 11:37Zolota was given for three months
- 11:40with several new hepatic tumors were found,
- 11:42as well as increased size of
- 11:44the retroviral lymphadenopathy.
- 11:45This is also very nicely shown
- 11:47with the pet CT shown here.
- 11:49Radio embolization was performed,
- 11:51but in a staged approach to avoid
- 11:53treatment of the entire liver.
- 11:55In one session,
- 11:56that can ultimately lead to liver failure.
- 11:59Subsequently,
- 12:00there was good treatment response
- 12:02with decreased FDG avidity and nine
- 12:05months after radioembolization,
- 12:07she developed a severe, intractable,
- 12:11bandlike pain around the upper abdomen and
- 12:13several FDG avid hepatic segment 3 masses.
- 12:16One was increased in size
- 12:18from the prior study,
- 12:19and there were two new tumors.
- 12:20She also had stable FDG avidity in in
- 12:24the pulmonary nodules and retroviral
- 12:27and retroperitoneal lymphadenopathy.
- 12:28So bland embolization was
- 12:30performed for pain control,
- 12:31as the anterior most tumor which you see
- 12:34here was stretching the liver capsule,
- 12:36causing the pain.
- 12:37Fortunately,
- 12:38the treatment resulted in complete
- 12:40tumor necrosis and she had
- 12:42immediate and sustained pain relief.
- 12:44Unfortunately,
- 12:44she died from disease progression,
- 12:46but lived three years after initial
- 12:48diagnosis with this multimodality
- 12:49therapy and with nearly the entire
- 12:51gamut of local regional strategies,
- 12:53we have to offer playing a major role in
- 12:56her much lower than expected survival.
- 12:58I just wanted to say a few words
- 13:00about combining immunotherapy
- 13:01and interventional hepatology.
- 13:03Interestingly, local regional therapies,
- 13:04such as ablation and transarterial
- 13:07envelope therapy,
- 13:07do elicit immune responses.
- 13:10Therefore,
- 13:10there could be synergies between
- 13:12local regional therapy and immune
- 13:14checkpoint inhibitors for better
- 13:16outcomes and numerous clinical
- 13:18trials are currently underway,
- 13:20such as this one.
- 13:21We are now enrolling 4 at Yale in this study.
- 13:24LEAP 012 patients will receive
- 13:26taste with or without.
- 13:28Embolism AB and levatino.
- 13:33So let's now move to management of portal,
- 13:34vein tumor thrombus, and entity.
- 13:36I personally believe is
- 13:37under treated in the West.
- 13:39Here we have a 54 year old man
- 13:42with HCC and HBV cirrhosis.
- 13:45He has scanned showing. By low bar.
- 13:50HCC with extensive infiltrative
- 13:52tumor in the left lateral liver.
- 13:56There's portal vein tumor
- 13:57thrombus within the right, left,
- 13:59and mid main portal veins extending
- 14:01to the sphenoid portal confluence,
- 14:03and there are numerous enhancing
- 14:05vessels throughout the tumor.
- 14:06Thrombus with arterial portal shunting?
- 14:08I am sure most practitioners in
- 14:10the audience would have just placed
- 14:12this patient on a TI and his
- 14:14life expectancy would have been
- 14:15dismal just a few months at best.
- 14:17As often happens,
- 14:18we hear very compelling stories such as
- 14:21having a wife and two young children.
- 14:23So against all odds we try to do what we can.
- 14:27So in this case, taste was offered,
- 14:30but knowing the challenges he was
- 14:32scheduled for four monthly taste sessions.
- 14:34Here we used a novel doable and
- 14:36occlusion catheter and see the tumor
- 14:38supplied by the writer padick artery
- 14:39with rapid shunting into the portal vein.
- 14:41And this is an angiogram with only the
- 14:44distal balloon inflated on the right.
- 14:46The comb beam CT fluoroscopic scopic
- 14:48images with both balloons inflated
- 14:51nicely shows the portal vein tumoral
- 14:53blood supply one year after initial taste,
- 14:56the portal vein tumor thrombus.
- 14:57Detracted from the spinal portal.
- 14:58Confluence and there was increased
- 15:00portal flow.
- 15:01There was no evidence of new
- 15:03or residual hepatic tumor,
- 15:04but his liver function did worsen
- 15:06some now being child BQ.
- 15:08Child Pugh, B7 and mild of 11.
- 15:12He died 16 months after the first
- 15:14case which was much longer than
- 15:17expected with systemic therapy.
- 15:19Next list,
- 15:19discuss the management of the
- 15:21sequel of Portal Hypertension.
- 15:22Although there are numerous
- 15:23reasons for performing a tips,
- 15:25the most common indications are variceal
- 15:27bleeding and refractory ascites.
- 15:29Both indications have exceedingly
- 15:30complex Physiology and the benefits
- 15:32of percutaneous approaches to manage
- 15:34these have been well documented.
- 15:36For now more than 25 years,
- 15:38so this is a 62 year old woman
- 15:40with HCV cirrhosis,
- 15:41recurrent ascites and hepatic
- 15:43hydrothorax in two small HCS.
- 15:46She was getting Thoreson,
- 15:47TCS and Paris and TCS.
- 15:48Every two days and had a miserable
- 15:51quality of life over the three
- 15:52years prior she had variceal,
- 15:54bleeding, and esophageal banding,
- 15:55and when I saw her,
- 15:57she was child's C at a meld score of 12
- 15:59and was undergoing transplant evaluation.
- 16:02Intraprocedural and a one month follow up.
- 16:04See T we effectively we see that we
- 16:07effectively treated the tumor with
- 16:09conventional taste and therefore
- 16:11proceeded to tips after tips placement.
- 16:14Her new comparison TCS and Thoracentesis
- 16:16immediately diminished and there
- 16:18was no evidence of viable tumor
- 16:19on any of the subsequent scans.
- 16:21And to the best of my knowledge,
- 16:22she was awaiting liver transplantation.
- 16:24Sorry,
- 16:25sorry they made a full interruption.
- 16:27We have to wrap it up in a minute.
- 16:30OK, all right.
- 16:32I guess I'll just discuss this case.
- 16:35So here's another case
- 16:36of portal hypertension.
- 16:37A 67 year old woman with cirrhosis
- 16:38and HCC who transferred from
- 16:40outside hospital for management
- 16:42of massive variceal bleeding.
- 16:43Originally I was consulted for the tips
- 16:45but as you can see from this portal vein,
- 16:47very tiny portal vein,
- 16:48she was not a candidate for because
- 16:50the students are actually much
- 16:52larger than this so we ended up
- 16:54performing of what's called the RTO.
- 16:56And here we see that we're able
- 16:58to use a splenorenal shunt.
- 17:00You have two catheters.
- 17:01Into the into the variceal complex
- 17:03coil with one of the catheters and
- 17:06then infused foam directly beyond
- 17:07it and therefore we were able to
- 17:10successfully treat the bleeding.
- 17:12But unfortunately this patient had a died,
- 17:15so I will skip this.
- 17:17And then we'll just go to the conclusion,
- 17:20which is as I hope I have shown,
- 17:22and I know I did,
- 17:23mostly on a tumor therapy.
- 17:25Interventional Hepatology plays an
- 17:27important role in the management of
- 17:29numerous complex compatible biliary diseases.
- 17:32Interventional radiology,
- 17:33as I discussed,
- 17:34is now in a CGM accredited 6 year
- 17:37categorical residency and I think this
- 17:39is very important as understanding
- 17:40imaging and Physiology is really the
- 17:43critical differentiator among proceduralists.
- 17:45I think that it yell we
- 17:47have a very collaborative,
- 17:48excellent.
- 17:48Environments we have liver tumor boards,
- 17:50portal hypertension,
- 17:51conferences and our trainees get to
- 17:53rotate on the class and service,
- 17:56and I think that from my perspective
- 17:58the future of interventional
- 18:00hepatology is extremely bright.
- 18:02There are novel technologies
- 18:03which are listed here,
- 18:05as well as a lot of promising
- 18:08combination therapies,
- 18:08so with that I will stop here and
- 18:10thank you for your attention.
- 18:13Thank you David. So we will have
- 18:15to skip the question and answer
- 18:17session so we now you know please,
- 18:20everybody goes straight to the 3:30
- 18:23session to imaging based hepatology.
- 18:25Thank you all.
- 18:32Thank you everyone due to the timing,
- 18:34we will be skipping this 315 session
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