Immunometabolism & Aging - The Dixit Lab at Yale School of Medicine
October 13, 2026Transcript
- 00:05It has become very clear
- 00:07that aging is not just
- 00:08fait accompli. Aging is a
- 00:10malleable process.
- 00:12And it turns out that
- 00:13almost every intervention
- 00:16that extends lifespan and reduces
- 00:19disease burden in animals
- 00:21is a metabolic intervention.
- 00:23But there are also
- 00:24molecular
- 00:26pathways
- 00:27and sensors
- 00:28in the body that sense
- 00:30the energy that is available
- 00:31to cells.
- 00:33And if those are targeted,
- 00:34that extends lifespan.
- 00:36And when that happens, one
- 00:38of the things that's really
- 00:39exciting is that the immune
- 00:40system,
- 00:41which basically resides also in
- 00:43every organ,
- 00:45is rewired
- 00:47to have greater ability to
- 00:49repair the damage that occurs
- 00:51with age. So immuno metabolism
- 00:53or this interaction between these
- 00:55two systems, we think, has
- 00:56a lot of potential in
- 00:57terms of understanding the basic
- 00:59biology of the aging process.
- 01:04So we are interested in
- 01:05these two phenomenas where
- 01:08the thymus, this organ that
- 01:10produces protective t cells in
- 01:11the body that controls infections,
- 01:13but we also know it
- 01:14controls cancers.
- 01:16What happens is that this
- 01:17organ ages so fast.
- 01:19By the age of forty
- 01:20five, in a healthy human
- 01:22being,
- 01:23almost eighty five percent of
- 01:25the human thymus
- 01:26is made up of fat.
- 01:28So it's an organ that's
- 01:29supposed to produce immune cells,
- 01:30but it has now fat
- 01:31cells in it.
- 01:32And the other end of
- 01:34the spectrum is the fat
- 01:35itself. The adipose tissue expands
- 01:38with age. Even if you
- 01:39maintain your normal body mass
- 01:41index, the fat that increases
- 01:43is called the visceral fat,
- 01:44the fat that lines our
- 01:45organs, internal organs.
- 01:48And what happens, very unique
- 01:50in this situation with aging,
- 01:51is that
- 01:52as that fat is expanding,
- 01:54the things that expand inside
- 01:56the fat are the immune
- 01:57cells.
- 01:58So on the other hand,
- 01:59you have thymus where it's
- 02:01supposed to produce the immune
- 02:02cells. It has now fat
- 02:03cells expanding in it. And
- 02:05then you have an adipose
- 02:06tissue whose whole purpose is
- 02:07to control metabolism,
- 02:09has now this excessive immune
- 02:10cell infiltration.
- 02:12And what's now becoming clearer
- 02:13is that
- 02:15both these processes
- 02:16actually converge to produce inflammation,
- 02:19which is now one of
- 02:20the central features that controls
- 02:22degenerative changes that happen with
- 02:25age.
- 02:29What we're trying to do
- 02:31is to
- 02:33really understand
- 02:34what are the mechanisms that
- 02:35are now dormant in humans
- 02:37that are living in the
- 02:38modern world. Because when we
- 02:40hit these dormant pathways,
- 02:42it actually extends lifespan in
- 02:43animals.
- 02:45Calorie restriction is a very
- 02:46good example of it. Okay?
- 02:48If you reduce the amount
- 02:49of calories that you're consuming,
- 02:51now there are adaptive mechanisms
- 02:53that we never actually have
- 02:54to utilize in our modern
- 02:56life that are now upregulated.
- 02:58Okay? And we want to
- 02:59harness that.
- 03:01So we're very much interested
- 03:02in nature. So there is
- 03:03this species that lives in
- 03:05the desert in Middle East.
- 03:07It's very unique in the
- 03:08sense that it lives close
- 03:09to six times longer
- 03:11in the desert.
- 03:13And this species of golden
- 03:14spiny mouse is extremely resilient
- 03:17to age related decline.
- 03:20And we're trying to understand
- 03:21what is
- 03:22present in this species that
- 03:24is now dormant in us.
- 03:29So the hope obviously is
- 03:31that these mechanisms that we're
- 03:33trying to understand that become
- 03:34dysfunctional with age
- 03:36and identify which ones are
- 03:38actually the drivers of that
- 03:39process of aging
- 03:41versus the ones that are
- 03:42just passengers.
- 03:44And one of the things
- 03:45that we have discovered along
- 03:46with several of our colleagues,
- 03:48across the world
- 03:49is a sensor
- 03:51in the immune system
- 03:53which senses damage. The sensor
- 03:55is called as the NLRP
- 03:56three inflammasome.
- 03:57It's a long, long, complicated
- 03:59name.
- 04:00But it is now becoming
- 04:02more and more clear
- 04:04that,
- 04:04as people are doing, you
- 04:06know, the omic studies in
- 04:07humans and in animals across,
- 04:09time span,
- 04:11that this mechanism, NLRP three,
- 04:13gets upregulated
- 04:14with age, something that we
- 04:15had been studying for close
- 04:17to fifteen years now.
- 04:18And if you lower it,
- 04:21you can not only extend
- 04:22lifespan in the animals, you
- 04:23actually reduce
- 04:24the onset of diseases.
- 04:27And good news is it's
- 04:28actually imminently druggable.
- 04:31So the hope obviously
- 04:32is that these mechanisms that
- 04:34we and others are discovering
- 04:36are eventually targetable. And if
- 04:37they are targetable, then whether
- 04:39that actually improves the health
- 04:40of older adults.
- 04:42And, obviously, you know, this
- 04:43has huge implications
- 04:45for for all of us
- 04:46because aging affects everyone.