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Yale Department of Psychiatry: Presentation by Committee on Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging

December 15, 2020
  • 00:00In the Chair for Diversity,
  • 00:02Equity and Inclusion here in the
  • 00:04Department of Psychiatry and I'm really
  • 00:07pleased to introduce the secretary and
  • 00:10vice president for University Life,
  • 00:12Kim Golf Cruise and the Vice Provost
  • 00:15for Faculty Development and diversity.
  • 00:18Doctor Gary Dizzier, who will discuss
  • 00:20University initiatives on diversity,
  • 00:22equity, inclusion, and belonging.
  • 00:24They were Co chairs of President
  • 00:26Solidays Committee on Diversity,
  • 00:28Inclusion, and belonging.
  • 00:30And I've asked them to come today
  • 00:33to talk about these initiatives,
  • 00:35but also to talk about
  • 00:38recommendations from this committee.
  • 00:39And you have a link to the written report
  • 00:43in the many emails that I sent out
  • 00:46reminding you about this presentation.
  • 00:49Today we have a very active
  • 00:51and engaged community in our
  • 00:53Department related to diversity,
  • 00:55equity and inclusion,
  • 00:57and I just want to thank everyone
  • 01:00for all of their efforts.
  • 01:02From the training programs
  • 01:04to research divisions, too,
  • 01:06bearish units and affiliated institutions,
  • 01:08I think we're very active and engaged in
  • 01:11passionate community around these topics.
  • 01:13Ann and I thought it would just be
  • 01:16really helpful to hear the university's
  • 01:19vision an recommendations and so that
  • 01:22maybe it can influence our work,
  • 01:24but also our work can influence what
  • 01:27happens at the University level as well.
  • 01:30So with that, I'm going to turn it over to.
  • 01:35Kim and to Gary,
  • 01:36thank you so much for being here.
  • 01:39So first of all, thank you for for
  • 01:42inviting us to talk to you about this
  • 01:44whole process of of creating belonging.
  • 01:47Yeah, which sending your introduction is
  • 01:49really powerful because the reality is
  • 01:52this is a University wide initiative,
  • 01:54but it happens both centrally and locally,
  • 01:56and so we were talking about will talk
  • 01:59about some of the bigger pictures items
  • 02:01of what we're what we're thinking about.
  • 02:04But but the work is gonna be done
  • 02:07in departments and grassroots.
  • 02:09I can't see all of you.
  • 02:11I see this wonderful city of names.
  • 02:13I would I wish to go yes.
  • 02:14Then you can record if you'd like.
  • 02:16That's fine speaking record.
  • 02:17Yes, we can record that's fine.
  • 02:19I wish I could see you in person.
  • 02:21I recognize some of the names,
  • 02:23but I'd love to eventually meet you.
  • 02:25So when we're in real in real life
  • 02:27I have to come back and see you.
  • 02:29At some point I thought what I would do
  • 02:31is start with what is belonging at Yale.
  • 02:34So if you had to define it in nutshell,
  • 02:36what is this?
  • 02:37And I would say that you know both Gary
  • 02:40and I have spent so much time thinking about.
  • 02:44This is it's basically a set of
  • 02:46actions and initiatives that are both
  • 02:49University wide and also Department
  • 02:50specific that are designed to build
  • 02:53the best environment for excellence.
  • 02:55I think that's one way to look at it,
  • 02:58and so there's it's not one thing.
  • 03:00It's a collection of things that are
  • 03:03coordinated but are deeply meaningful.
  • 03:05Both University wide and also
  • 03:07within the context of specific.
  • 03:08Units, so it's an umbrella we talk about.
  • 03:11Belonging else being an umbrella term
  • 03:13that talks about our presentation
  • 03:15or application amplification of
  • 03:17the work that we're already doing.
  • 03:19Its belonging itself has a very
  • 03:21specific definition for us,
  • 03:23and I'll talk about that in a little later.
  • 03:26But we we see the impact as being
  • 03:29one where every person,
  • 03:31no matter where they are,
  • 03:33where they sit in the University,
  • 03:35feel that they are engaged.
  • 03:37They are valued and they are connected.
  • 03:40And so at the end of the day,
  • 03:42that's really what we want to have come
  • 03:44out of this particular set of initiative,
  • 03:46and it's exciting right now about
  • 03:48this current phase of the word,
  • 03:50because in some ways we've been doing
  • 03:51this work at the University for many,
  • 03:54many years.
  • 03:54But this phase is a little
  • 03:56bit different than will,
  • 03:57and I think you'll see why
  • 03:59when Gary like describe it,
  • 04:00because it involves not
  • 04:01only faculty and students,
  • 04:02which is where we used to have these
  • 04:05conversations around belonging,
  • 04:06but also staff animals,
  • 04:07and also most importantly, alumni.
  • 04:08So we're one of the few universities.
  • 04:10If any that we know of that is
  • 04:13actually actively in incorporating
  • 04:14the work of alumni and are reaching
  • 04:16out to alumni into how we think
  • 04:19about building this initiative.
  • 04:20So I think that's really important,
  • 04:22so we're going to describe
  • 04:23a little bit about our
  • 04:25thinking that went into the recommendations,
  • 04:27which I hope many of you had a chance to
  • 04:30read because we want you to understand
  • 04:32what underlines some of the things
  • 04:35we're going to be talking about.
  • 04:37We're going to talk about
  • 04:39about the next steps.
  • 04:40That we're going through the action
  • 04:42plan and also just delve into a
  • 04:44little bit so few of the initiatives
  • 04:46of the President salary announced
  • 04:47a couple of a couple of weeks ago,
  • 04:49so I'm going to ask Gary to talk start
  • 04:52about talking bout the report and
  • 04:54some of the things that we really want
  • 04:56to pay attention to as you read it,
  • 04:58and then we'll go back into the action plan.
  • 05:01So I'm going to
  • 05:02turn this over to you.
  • 05:03Thanks very much so thank you Cindy
  • 05:05for inviting me and and I I know many
  • 05:07of the folks in your Department.
  • 05:09I'm happy to see many of the names.
  • 05:12And it's really a pleasure to be here.
  • 05:15The the so sort of president salary.
  • 05:17Ask US Kim and I to chair the new
  • 05:20expanded version of what was called
  • 05:22the President's Committee on DI
  • 05:24and that had been meeting for a
  • 05:27couple of years prior to that.
  • 05:29So inject on in January.
  • 05:30This past January,
  • 05:32the president ask us to to actually
  • 05:34look at the work that was being
  • 05:37done at year and come up with a
  • 05:39vision and a plan for implementation
  • 05:41and and so that's what we did.
  • 05:43So and the idea was then to offer.
  • 05:46Vision where in and then to develop
  • 05:49high level goals on how to achieve
  • 05:51that vision and then to outline
  • 05:53some strategies and then to provide
  • 05:56some initial recommendations to
  • 05:58the President for implementation.
  • 05:59So this was done by a committee
  • 06:02Ann and Blake.
  • 06:03Perhaps you can share the I don't
  • 06:06do this slide or do you have them?
  • 06:13OK, so so this is I just want you to
  • 06:16see who the committee members were.
  • 06:19So we're joined by 16.
  • 06:23Faculty member and staff
  • 06:24and not just go through.
  • 06:26You can see on this is Kim.
  • 06:29This is Karen Anderson who
  • 06:31is in the post office.
  • 06:34Charles Bailyn was a physicist
  • 06:36sent a car with their lawyer.
  • 06:39Where did Chang, who is direct Deal
  • 06:41Alumni Association Jen Frederick,
  • 06:43through many of you know,
  • 06:45Larry Gladney was at FS.
  • 06:48And Sharon Cougar, Chaplain,
  • 06:50and Kurt was the Dean of the
  • 06:53School of Nursing, Darren,
  • 06:55or, you know,
  • 06:56Katie Lofton was at FAS Pillow
  • 06:59Montalvo from the president's office.
  • 07:02Vicki Nolan from the School of Drama.
  • 07:06Melinda Pettigrew School of
  • 07:08Public Health Steven Spangler,
  • 07:10David Stanley from the from HR and
  • 07:12then Tom Tyler from the law school.
  • 07:15And so this is the group of faculty
  • 07:18and staff and administrators who met
  • 07:21over the next six months to actually
  • 07:24figure out what division would be
  • 07:27and how would we implement it.
  • 07:29So hold on a second so so
  • 07:33so I think the committee,
  • 07:35the members of the Committee were
  • 07:38chosen because of their experience,
  • 07:41their passion for diversity and they
  • 07:44were experts in intersectionality on
  • 07:46drivers of organizational change.
  • 07:48For instance,
  • 07:49Tom Tyler does work there and in
  • 07:52the work was also subdivided into
  • 07:55subcommittees and we we we could
  • 07:58have members from the entire campus.
  • 08:01And bought for them to sub
  • 08:03committees to study the past.
  • 08:04University reports that you available
  • 08:06data and we have activities of peer
  • 08:08universities to look for best practices.
  • 08:10So,
  • 08:10for instance,
  • 08:11Cindy was a member of the Subcommittee
  • 08:14on faculty and I would like to
  • 08:15ask her to share her experience
  • 08:17on how that work with and what
  • 08:19what she was she gained from it,
  • 08:21and what she learned.
  • 08:23Cindy,
  • 08:23if you please could please go ahead
  • 08:25and tell us your experience at the
  • 08:27subcommittee member for faculty.
  • 08:29Sure, thanks Gary.
  • 08:30I joined sometime in the spring
  • 08:32of this year and it, you know,
  • 08:35for me it was just nice too.
  • 08:38Be connected to other people
  • 08:40from across the University.
  • 08:41I feel like I know pretty well what's
  • 08:44happening in the medical school,
  • 08:46but some of the other professional
  • 08:48schools and certainly undergraduates.
  • 08:49I don't know as much of
  • 08:51what what's happening.
  • 08:52So DI Field is a rapidly changing
  • 08:55field from terminology to concepts,
  • 08:56and so for me I felt like I
  • 08:59I learned a lot in terms of,
  • 09:02you know what people are currently
  • 09:04thinking about in in the field.
  • 09:06Ann and how I might be able
  • 09:08to think about that.
  • 09:10So the Department at the same
  • 09:11time I hope that I brought things
  • 09:14that we have been thinking about
  • 09:16doing in the Department to other
  • 09:18folks across the campus,
  • 09:19so I think it was just really
  • 09:21helpful to have that knowledge.
  • 09:23Sharing it was really rapid turn around.
  • 09:26So of course our committee wanted
  • 09:27a lot more time to talk about
  • 09:29these issues and think through
  • 09:31them and provide recommendations.
  • 09:33But it was a really rapid turn around,
  • 09:35but I think in the end really
  • 09:38helpful to know and to meet.
  • 09:40Other people from across the
  • 09:42University and share best practices
  • 09:45and concepts and ideas so.
  • 09:48Thank you Cindy so so the committee
  • 09:51was in parallel in early January
  • 09:53and the pace we had fourth
  • 09:55didn't take into account covid,
  • 09:57so we actually had to had to.
  • 10:00Here's how we work and we we had
  • 10:03a retreat which was done on Zoom,
  • 10:06which actually worked out pretty well,
  • 10:08but it would, you know,
  • 10:10get together and get the work done,
  • 10:13which was really great.
  • 10:14And we also spoke with many members of the
  • 10:17community who shared their time and insights.
  • 10:20For instance,
  • 10:21Professor Ferguson so spoke to
  • 10:23us about intersectionality and
  • 10:25expanded our views and ideas of
  • 10:27how that concept concept could fit
  • 10:29into an institutional framework.
  • 10:31And how no one thinks of
  • 10:33individual holistically,
  • 10:34you know their identity's and that
  • 10:36informs us on how we approach a way of
  • 10:39creating a community of the logging
  • 10:41the there were several important
  • 10:44ideas that I just want to highlight
  • 10:46when you read the the report,
  • 10:49you'll see that one is that excellence is
  • 10:51really the ultimate reason for that work.
  • 10:54And we believe that you should
  • 10:56Excel in every area.
  • 10:58And the committee really fundamentally
  • 11:00believe that our focus on diversity,
  • 11:02equity, inclusion.
  • 11:03Was an essential part of maintaining
  • 11:06what we've had excellence today
  • 11:08and excellence for for the future.
  • 11:10And so came out.
  • 11:12Stop here for a second and I
  • 11:14ask you to continue.
  • 11:16Right, can you take a slide down for
  • 11:19just a second so I could see everybody?
  • 11:22I thought the other two definitions,
  • 11:24which we we really honed in on that
  • 11:26I want you to be conscious up or
  • 11:29what's the definition of belonging?
  • 11:31What does it actually mean to belong?
  • 11:34And we actually did some research.
  • 11:36There are faculty members on our own
  • 11:38in our own psychology Department and
  • 11:40also some researchers in corporations,
  • 11:42one being Howard Ross wrote a book
  • 11:45called Our Search for Belonging.
  • 11:47And some professors at Harvard that
  • 11:49we read which actually identified
  • 11:51the components of what it means
  • 11:53for a person to belong.
  • 11:55And they say, and we have adopted
  • 11:56as a as a definition that belonging,
  • 11:59means that the person can be themselves.
  • 12:02They believe that they can be themselves.
  • 12:04They can take part in teams
  • 12:06with different types of people.
  • 12:08Um, but work toward the same goals and
  • 12:11have the same values that worked with
  • 12:13the same goals in the same values,
  • 12:16but they know that people's talents
  • 12:18and perspectives, including their own,
  • 12:19will be recognized and respected,
  • 12:21and that's how those are.
  • 12:22The schools basically points about what
  • 12:24people need to feel that they belong,
  • 12:27so we actually broke those down
  • 12:28into four or five components.
  • 12:30And that's what we're trying to make
  • 12:33sure that we're covering as we do.
  • 12:35Some of these initiatives.
  • 12:36The other thing I want you to to.
  • 12:39Be clear about is our system
  • 12:42definition of diversity.
  • 12:43We are in a moment in our country
  • 12:45where we are very focused on anti
  • 12:48black racism and on what's happening
  • 12:50with black and Brown bodies.
  • 12:52Given what happened with George
  • 12:54Floyd in the middle of our of
  • 12:56our conversation as a committee.
  • 12:58But when you talk about diversity
  • 13:00we also talked about a broader
  • 13:02range of diverse diversity.
  • 13:04So things like certainly race,
  • 13:05nationality, ability,
  • 13:06gender or socioeconomic diversity.
  • 13:07And because we're a University
  • 13:09also perspectives.
  • 13:10So once you just keep that in mind that that.
  • 13:13Actually,
  • 13:14something that we're focused on as
  • 13:15we build something to initiatives.
  • 13:17Although you'll see for the next few years,
  • 13:19we're going to be very,
  • 13:20very focused on race given where
  • 13:22we are as a country and some other
  • 13:25things that we think we are poised
  • 13:27to to deepen in our work. So we have.
  • 13:32I want to talk a little bit about
  • 13:33the action plan.
  • 13:34I know some of you have read,
  • 13:36report and want to give you a
  • 13:37sense of the action plan won't go
  • 13:39through the whole thing.
  • 13:40'cause it's very comprehensive,
  • 13:41but we happen to have a
  • 13:42visual of an action plan.
  • 13:43So I'm going to have someone put that up.
  • 13:45I think Ryan's gonna put that up for
  • 13:47us and then I'm going to plant some
  • 13:50things in their specific things that
  • 13:51we just want to pay attention to.
  • 13:53We haven't posted this yet.
  • 13:54Will get a version of this post
  • 13:56that's going to be a little bit more.
  • 13:58Acceptable for some summer colleagues, but.
  • 14:01I have a pile of jewels.
  • 14:03I like to have. This is a way of
  • 14:06thinking about the action plan,
  • 14:08so I want to remember that one of the things
  • 14:10that committee wrote is that this is a.
  • 14:12This is a marathon.
  • 14:13This is not a Sprint will be
  • 14:15working on this for years to come,
  • 14:17although we want to take it in
  • 14:19five year increments in terms of
  • 14:21how we want to be coordinated,
  • 14:22we want to focus on and so the
  • 14:24president did ask us for an
  • 14:26action plan in addition to some
  • 14:27of the people in the more larger
  • 14:30conversations and larger principles
  • 14:31that he wanted us to identify.
  • 14:32This action plan is for the next five years.
  • 14:35And you'll notice on the top or a set of.
  • 14:40Objectives or goals that we have
  • 14:42for the next five years that are
  • 14:45that are really inspired by the
  • 14:47report and then you'll see that the
  • 14:50colors very specifically the purple,
  • 14:52are those priorities of the
  • 14:53President mentioned in his.
  • 14:57In his memo to the entire
  • 14:59community a few weeks ago,
  • 15:01and there, other colors are
  • 15:02really not not specific,
  • 15:04but purple is definitely about
  • 15:06the president's priorities,
  • 15:07and these are not written
  • 15:08in any particular order.
  • 15:12So there's no order of hierarchy,
  • 15:14but I want to mention a couple of things.
  • 15:17One is we know Gary.
  • 15:19I'm going to talk a little bit
  • 15:23about present priorities around.
  • 15:25Diversity in particular,
  • 15:26but we know that there are a lot
  • 15:28of schools and administrative
  • 15:29units like yours who have actually
  • 15:31been working on diversity.
  • 15:33So, for example, Betty,
  • 15:35which is the faculty Excellence inverse
  • 15:37initiative that many of you might know about.
  • 15:401st Five years schools have brought
  • 15:42at least 101 excellent back of the
  • 15:45campus using that particular program,
  • 15:46and we know that our staff
  • 15:49affinity groups which.
  • 15:50Our continuing continuing
  • 15:51to grow our diversifying,
  • 15:52our manager and professional staff
  • 15:54which of which have doubled diversity,
  • 15:56is doubled in last decade.
  • 15:57So we've increased as we always as we know,
  • 16:00the number of students from low
  • 16:02income backgrounds in the College of
  • 16:04particular working on that through
  • 16:05and some of the other schools as well.
  • 16:08And we're beginning to focus a little
  • 16:10bit more deliberately on connecting
  • 16:11with our diverse alumni body.
  • 16:13One of the things we discovered
  • 16:15as a as a as a committee was that
  • 16:18when you look out over the next
  • 16:20last 10 years to the 12 years of.
  • 16:23Students across the University
  • 16:24have graduated,
  • 16:25but there is a real diversity of
  • 16:27real demographic shift and the
  • 16:29diversity of the alumni body.
  • 16:31They are eager to engage and
  • 16:33learn about the issues.
  • 16:34They are a little bit different
  • 16:36from those who came before them or
  • 16:38beginning to think more strategically
  • 16:40about how to engage with these alumni.
  • 16:42So with that in mind,
  • 16:43but where we're starting from,
  • 16:45we're just going to highlight
  • 16:46again on this particular.
  • 16:47Using this as a as a as a template.
  • 16:50Some of the things that the President
  • 16:53talked about some things will be doing.
  • 16:55So a couple of things.
  • 16:57One is,
  • 16:58if you look at acknowledgement,
  • 17:00recognition and respect,
  • 17:02remember going back to our conversation
  • 17:04that that is really important for
  • 17:06people to feel like they belong.
  • 17:09One of the things the president
  • 17:11is focused on is understanding the
  • 17:13US history and he has charged they
  • 17:17light who is professor and has a
  • 17:19lot of deep knowledge of slavery.
  • 17:23Running the Gilder Center on slavery
  • 17:25to create a committee to actually
  • 17:28look at yells history of slavery
  • 17:30and professors already.
  • 17:31I think that that that study
  • 17:33is already launched.
  • 17:35There is a committee that has been
  • 17:37created and there are already
  • 17:39students who are in the archives
  • 17:42looking at our own history so that
  • 17:44we'll be able to have report fairly
  • 17:46soon about where we were in that
  • 17:49much more deeply about where we were
  • 17:52as University involved in slavery.
  • 17:54Ross looking at assessing campus
  • 17:56culture and the effectiveness
  • 17:57of ongoing initiatives.
  • 17:58One of the things we discovered as
  • 18:00a committee is that we don't have
  • 18:02a very good sense of accountability
  • 18:04and assessment of what is going
  • 18:06on in the unit and what will be
  • 18:09going on as we move forward.
  • 18:10It's probably the biggest
  • 18:12change from previous reports,
  • 18:13and so we're actually. Wiring.
  • 18:20Require unit plans and assessment
  • 18:22protocols to be in place.
  • 18:24Boston University's huge effort on
  • 18:25our part and we think something
  • 18:27that will least track what we're
  • 18:29doing as we move forward so that
  • 18:32everybody can learn from what
  • 18:33we're doing across the University.
  • 18:35The other thing I want to mention
  • 18:38before I turn it over to Gary.
  • 18:41I'm going to go over to the
  • 18:43diversity of the Yelp community.
  • 18:45That second bucket there is that we
  • 18:47are really very committed to showing
  • 18:49up financial aid for all students.
  • 18:52We tend to focus on the college.
  • 18:55But we are actually much more
  • 18:57focus on trying to make sure that
  • 18:59students across our University
  • 19:01are getting enough financial aid,
  • 19:03particularly those special schools
  • 19:04where the students want might not make
  • 19:07a lot of money when they graduate,
  • 19:09and so we're going to be working on a
  • 19:11plan to support that effort as well.
  • 19:14So there are other things I want to
  • 19:17mention how to move around this?
  • 19:19Yeah, so yes.
  • 19:20So let me let me focus on two things.
  • 19:23So if you look at under
  • 19:25scholarship and teaching.
  • 19:27It says investment coordinating
  • 19:28Centers for research and scholarship
  • 19:31so so there are many servers already
  • 19:34existing at Yale and there are
  • 19:36some newsletters that are coming up
  • 19:38that will be funded by the press.
  • 19:41That one is is issues about
  • 19:44prison population, for instance,
  • 19:45and one of the goals is to really
  • 19:48coordinate the work of said was working
  • 19:51on transit transnational migration,
  • 19:53racism in the Genetti, Ann and.
  • 19:56Try to develop an environment where
  • 19:59people are interested in this.
  • 20:01Issues can come for advice or wet
  • 20:03funding or or or power projects,
  • 20:05so that's one one part of the work.
  • 20:08I think very important part of
  • 20:10the work is on the second column
  • 20:13called diversity of the Yellow
  • 20:15Community and it says investing,
  • 20:17Bipap faculty and postdoc mentoring.
  • 20:18So let me talk about diversity
  • 20:21of the faculty,
  • 20:22so when the committee looked at the
  • 20:24impact of ferry over the past five
  • 20:27years on on recruitment and retention,
  • 20:29so in terms of recruitment,
  • 20:31Kim mentioned that.
  • 20:32Fetty over the past five years
  • 20:34had allowed the recruitment of 101
  • 20:36underrepresented faculty ideal,
  • 20:38and then we look at the overall impact
  • 20:41fairly on on diversity across University,
  • 20:43and it was mixed so some
  • 20:46some schools did find some,
  • 20:48others didn't do well.
  • 20:49But overall, the net increase on on on
  • 20:53the diverse faculty was very small.
  • 20:55So the question is, should we?
  • 20:57We could more,
  • 20:59more faculty,
  • 20:59or should we make an attempt
  • 21:02to retain more faculty?
  • 21:04So the committee actually be focused
  • 21:06on the fact that maybe we could do
  • 21:08a better job on retention and in the
  • 21:10equities you intention is that so
  • 21:12some people think about retention
  • 21:14with somebody, wants to leave,
  • 21:15and then we're trying to retain them at yeah,
  • 21:18but the committee is you is is it
  • 21:20was a bit more broad than that.
  • 21:22They viewed retention as how you on
  • 21:25the first date a person comes to you.
  • 21:27How do you welcome them?
  • 21:29How do you Orient them?
  • 21:30What resources do give them?
  • 21:32And then how do you help them in
  • 21:34developing their career academic career?
  • 21:36Yeah,
  • 21:36and that's that's what we think
  • 21:38about retention,
  • 21:39and I think there was a lot of progress.
  • 21:42Who could make there?
  • 21:43And the committee is recommended many,
  • 21:45many, many areas of improvement
  • 21:47in terms of retention.
  • 21:48I think that's not easy.
  • 21:50That's a that's not an easy thing to do,
  • 21:53but we believe that it will really make the
  • 21:56culture of belonging at deal much better.
  • 21:59The there was also an issue of of
  • 22:02increasing student diversity in the
  • 22:04end with pipeline programs and and
  • 22:06financially now you know diversity
  • 22:08doesn't always mean the same thing
  • 22:10for all particular programs.
  • 22:12Some programs might have many
  • 22:13more women than men,
  • 22:15so you may want to increase the
  • 22:17number of women and vice versa.
  • 22:19So we the committee took off early.
  • 22:24Broadview of whatever City would look like.
  • 22:29One other thing I wanted to mention is the
  • 22:31issue of public safety and and policing.
  • 22:34And and Kim may want to talk to about that no
  • 22:38more later but but there is an initiative to.
  • 22:41Look at what the police is doing right
  • 22:44now and and and and change it in the
  • 22:47way that that improves the trust in
  • 22:50policing and the safety of students,
  • 22:53faculty and staff at the University.
  • 22:57I'll believe is also that that progress will
  • 22:59be made if you we could do right leaders
  • 23:03an increasing the diversity among staff,
  • 23:05top staff leaders and preparing
  • 23:07staff for service in senior position
  • 23:09is a really important thing to do.
  • 23:12The we work closely with Willie
  • 23:14Chiang on alumni and the alumni are
  • 23:16very passionate about diversity.
  • 23:18So I think there is a there is a
  • 23:21an opportunity there to leverage
  • 23:23the passion of the alumni in there.
  • 23:26Connections in know how improving
  • 23:28diversity at Yale and then finally,
  • 23:31since the University is within New Haven,
  • 23:33we believe that it is important for
  • 23:36the University to focus on increasing
  • 23:38diversity for contractors,
  • 23:40vendors and business professionals.
  • 23:41Very often that may mean slightly
  • 23:44changing business practices that don't,
  • 23:46that this disenfranchised.
  • 23:47Small businesses, for instance.
  • 23:48And now I want to say that there is a
  • 23:52lot of work that's already been done
  • 23:54and I will ask him to highlight some
  • 23:57of the work that's been done that
  • 23:59we can leverage for future success.
  • 24:01Kim so you
  • 24:02know, part of what I think is I
  • 24:05just want to make a distinction,
  • 24:07but I'm going to go to inclusive
  • 24:09practice analysis on the green personal,
  • 24:11personal and professional.
  • 24:13Development because of practice,
  • 24:15we know that there's a lot of education
  • 24:17and training on a number of these issues
  • 24:19that's already going on in different units,
  • 24:21and I know that you've been doing a
  • 24:24lot of having a lot of speaker series.
  • 24:27To talk about social justice and
  • 24:29HealthEquity which which I really
  • 24:30applaud you for and I know that many
  • 24:32of us are are trying to do some of
  • 24:35that across the University as well.
  • 24:36One of the things we think is
  • 24:38really important about inclusion,
  • 24:39and we distinguish that from belonging.
  • 24:41Is that all of us,
  • 24:43particularly those of us in
  • 24:45leadership positions?
  • 24:45Have some sense of what it means to
  • 24:47create an inclusive environment,
  • 24:49and so one of the things you're going
  • 24:51to see is our efforts to build upon some
  • 24:54of the work that you've been doing.
  • 24:57Bringing in speakers,
  • 24:58having really interesting conversations
  • 24:59about some of the issues that are being
  • 25:02raised in the country in our internal campus,
  • 25:04and in our in our in our professional work,
  • 25:07and making sure that people understand
  • 25:09how to create an inclusive environment,
  • 25:11because, again, belonging.
  • 25:12Is more about the intervals perspective?
  • 25:14Do they belong to an into
  • 25:15an environment inclusion?
  • 25:16We just.
  • 25:17We distinguish inclusion as being our
  • 25:19ability to create the environment where
  • 25:21people feel that they belong and so
  • 25:23part of what you're going to be seeing us do.
  • 25:25Is across the University is to create.
  • 25:30Programming a professional development
  • 25:31opportunities for the professionals and
  • 25:33others creating the opportunity for people.
  • 25:35Have and learn how to have difficult
  • 25:37conversations so that it becomes a
  • 25:39lot easier to be in this environment
  • 25:42to give the best that you can.
  • 25:43And so again,
  • 25:44I applaud you for the work that you're
  • 25:47already doing for your anti racism.
  • 25:49I think curriculum is what I heard
  • 25:51and hope that you will continue to do
  • 25:53that because that is exactly where the
  • 25:56rest of the University will be going.
  • 25:58As we move forward.
  • 25:59Gary won't talk a little bit about
  • 26:02the unit plans because that is
  • 26:04a huge piece of the warp.
  • 26:05Asking everybody to do,
  • 26:07and so people should probably
  • 26:08understand what it is and then we will
  • 26:10will get ready to take questions.
  • 26:12Yes, yes. So so very briefly,
  • 26:14and I think we've gotten a lot of
  • 26:16questions about the DIA unit plans and,
  • 26:18and I think that. So.
  • 26:21The the plan is to ask to roll up.
  • 26:26Programs and Department
  • 26:27plans to the school plan,
  • 26:28and then it gets it,
  • 26:30gets submitted as a single plan to
  • 26:32the to the Post office into into
  • 26:35Kim's office so that we think.
  • 26:37We probably have fewer than
  • 26:3925 or 30 plans to look at,
  • 26:41so so the question then is going to be,
  • 26:44how does a Department or sectional
  • 26:46program participate in the in
  • 26:47the in the planning process?
  • 26:49And I think this is going to
  • 26:51be determined by each school.
  • 26:53But but the idea would be to to
  • 26:57understand the local context and to
  • 27:00understand what the issues are belonging.
  • 27:03And and and look at what one can do
  • 27:06to improve retention and recruitment.
  • 27:10So one might have to reorganize.
  • 27:14Standard operating procedures
  • 27:16for recruiting faculty or you
  • 27:19might want to implement.
  • 27:21Mentoring programs so,
  • 27:22and that's going to be that's
  • 27:24going to vary from group to group,
  • 27:27but but I think for for for the plans
  • 27:29to there's a there's a need for a
  • 27:32place to be aligned with your friends.
  • 27:35That's overall goals,
  • 27:36and I think it's best done through
  • 27:38by aligning them through by this
  • 27:40through the school to routines.
  • 27:42So I think each unit can work on trying
  • 27:45to figure out their own local environment,
  • 27:48and that that those insights should be.
  • 27:51Coordinated by the Deans Office
  • 27:53and I think by embracing common
  • 27:55goals in a common framework,
  • 27:57but being very flexible in implementation,
  • 27:59you can allow our institutional
  • 28:01goals to be applied in ways that
  • 28:03makes sense for local cultures.
  • 28:05So I think,
  • 28:06and I think there are a lot
  • 28:08of questions about those.
  • 28:10More specific guidance will be provided soon.
  • 28:12Kim and I and and are working
  • 28:14on such guidance,
  • 28:15and that that that will be forthcoming,
  • 28:17but that's the way I would
  • 28:18think about what we called.
  • 28:20The unique players came back to you.
  • 28:22Alright,
  • 28:22so I think
  • 28:23we're we are going to turn it over to
  • 28:26questions and wanted to make sure we had
  • 28:28enough time to answer your questions.
  • 28:30'cause this is a lot of
  • 28:32information that we're giving you,
  • 28:33but I encourage you.
  • 28:35To go back to the site,
  • 28:38the Blind Yell site because it
  • 28:39will have a lot of information
  • 28:41and just to the president's
  • 28:43announcement and the report itself,
  • 28:46we will continually up upload information,
  • 28:48including the University speaker series.
  • 28:50I don't know any of you.
  • 28:52We had the opportunity to go to
  • 28:54participate in the series where
  • 28:56we had we featured Abraham Candy.
  • 28:58I think it was last week about
  • 29:021100 University citizens.
  • 29:04Being able to not participate
  • 29:05at least have understand the
  • 29:07conversation that he was having
  • 29:08with one of our faculty members,
  • 29:10which was really great.
  • 29:11We have it.
  • 29:12We have it posted for the next 10
  • 29:14days or so and we also have Dolly
  • 29:16Chugh who is a really wonderful.
  • 29:21Professor from and why you talking
  • 29:23about what it means to you know to
  • 29:25really be in this fight and how,
  • 29:27how you can how you can be
  • 29:29not just an anti racist,
  • 29:31but a good pretty good ISH person
  • 29:33I think is what she would say.
  • 29:35So please make sure that you you
  • 29:38continue to look at the site.
  • 29:39I would say that we we started
  • 29:41this work in January.
  • 29:43It has been tough on one acknowledge it has
  • 29:46been very tough to be doing this work now,
  • 29:49particularly starting in the fall.
  • 29:502015 the University has been a long
  • 29:53trajectory around quickly race,
  • 29:54but it just got even tougher
  • 29:56with a gorgeous Floyd death.
  • 29:58I know a lot of people were.
  • 30:01Impacted by that.
  • 30:02But there is.
  • 30:03I think there is a sense right now
  • 30:05and Gary might speak to this that
  • 30:08from a University perspective,
  • 30:10all of us are breaking through to
  • 30:12this next iteration of what it
  • 30:15means to do the work across campus.
  • 30:17That everybody is is is being
  • 30:19asked to to step up and I think
  • 30:22what we're what we're seeing.
  • 30:24Pretty pretty regularly in our
  • 30:26conversations with other your cause.
  • 30:28Cross Institution is embracing of this this.
  • 30:30Initiative and some pretty interesting
  • 30:32innovative ideas happening at the
  • 30:35ground level and also centrally,
  • 30:36so we're looking forward to
  • 30:38having a conversation with you.
  • 30:40But Gary,
  • 30:41do you
  • 30:42want to switch over?
  • 30:43Yeah I would. I would second that.
  • 30:46What's been really encouraging to
  • 30:48us as we've spoken with faculty
  • 30:50vice presidents, the Corporation,
  • 30:52because that is that there is tremendous
  • 30:55passion and commitment for the work
  • 30:57to be successful and at all levels.
  • 31:00And many groups already.
  • 31:01Devising what the plan would looks like.
  • 31:04The beginning really difficult and but
  • 31:06but engaging important conversations
  • 31:08about race and and diversity,
  • 31:10and I think that's that's what
  • 31:12we make the work successful.
  • 31:14It is not.
  • 31:15It's not a sort of it takes a while.
  • 31:18It is a long term proposition,
  • 31:21but I think I I I,
  • 31:23I sense no significant and long
  • 31:25standing commitment to work,
  • 31:27so I'm very encouraged and I'm
  • 31:29very encouraged that we can
  • 31:31work together to make it happen.
  • 31:33So.
  • 31:35So I'll stop here and then will
  • 31:37welcome questions given I can
  • 31:39try to answer them.
  • 31:46So folks can just jump right in or type it.
  • 31:49In the chat. We also had two
  • 31:50questions that came in earlier.
  • 31:52So wait a second, see if anyone
  • 31:53else has questions first.
  • 31:56So far currents can hear me. Yes yes.
  • 32:00Good afternoon I. Really, this
  • 32:04is kind of rumor, but perfect colleagues and
  • 32:08other than the medical school.
  • 32:13That students are. Someone
  • 32:15can be somewhat impatient.
  • 32:17For changes in the language and
  • 32:20curricula. And and in lectures,
  • 32:24for example regarding gender and race too.
  • 32:29I just bring more current.
  • 32:33Language to bear on
  • 32:35the discussions anatomy came
  • 32:37to mind, for example,
  • 32:39so I didn't see anything in the
  • 32:42plan that specifically referenced
  • 32:44kind of support for faculty.
  • 32:47In in their efforts to.
  • 32:51Kind of adjust their curricula.
  • 32:54Her motive, maybe even you
  • 32:56know their curriculum.
  • 32:57Basically teaching that we do.
  • 33:00And trying to support faculty
  • 33:02because as Ken you said.
  • 33:06You know it,
  • 33:07it's a. It's
  • 33:08a marathon, not a Sprint, and that
  • 33:11students may think the time is
  • 33:13now or it's long past time.
  • 33:16To make changes so any
  • 33:18any comments on that?
  • 33:19Sure Gary, do you wanna start?
  • 33:21Would you like me to?
  • 33:23I think I can start Bob. Good to see you.
  • 33:26I haven't seen you in a long time.
  • 33:28Yeah, I I think that.
  • 33:31I, I think what you may be asking about
  • 33:34are there are there are several resources
  • 33:36that can help with trying to figure out
  • 33:39certain things that one needs to think
  • 33:41about when you giving a course it out.
  • 33:43And I think for instance there is there is
  • 33:46a teaching center at the medical school.
  • 33:49There's a teaching center at the
  • 33:50University called before Cetera,
  • 33:52so so I think that as you,
  • 33:54as one is designing curriculum once
  • 33:56to think about when one needs to think
  • 33:59about these things and ask for help.
  • 34:01But I agree with you that very
  • 34:03often we fall into, you know,
  • 34:05we we are well meaning,
  • 34:07but we say things that don't quite
  • 34:08fit the Times Now and encourage
  • 34:10faculty who interviews sooner.
  • 34:12So actually think about that
  • 34:14and and ask for help.
  • 34:15There are centers that can
  • 34:17help you with that.
  • 34:19So yeah, we we.
  • 34:20We do have centers because again,
  • 34:22that's on there that we would call
  • 34:24that the scholarship and teaching
  • 34:26prong of this of this work.
  • 34:27And so in the curriculum space.
  • 34:29That's exactly what we want to do.
  • 34:31You go to the public center or the
  • 34:33center that's in the medical school.
  • 34:35But we're also mean faculty are are
  • 34:37people outside of their professions,
  • 34:39and so part of what we've been
  • 34:41really focusing on is making sure
  • 34:42that we're bringing speakers to
  • 34:44campus with these larger events so
  • 34:46that faculty might be interested in.
  • 34:48Also going to those.
  • 34:49As well, so the Ibram Kendi
  • 34:50event had about 1100 people,
  • 34:52I think 2 or 302 hundred of them
  • 34:54or something with faculty members.
  • 34:55We can actually track where they were,
  • 34:57so we're trying to make sure that we are.
  • 35:00We are supporting you not only in
  • 35:01your curriculum and your resource,
  • 35:03but also just in your own understanding.
  • 35:05Some of the ideas that are going on so
  • 35:07that so that you have what you need
  • 35:09to be able to interact with students,
  • 35:11but also just with all learners,
  • 35:13were all learning this stuff.
  • 35:15Trying to be conscious of that as well.
  • 35:18So
  • 35:18several years ago, Willie and I
  • 35:20Co chaired a committee for the Med
  • 35:23school when they were working on
  • 35:25the redesign of the curriculum,
  • 35:27and one of the things that we had
  • 35:30proposed was the development of
  • 35:32multicultural Education Resource
  • 35:33Center at Yale or we called Mercy Ann.
  • 35:36I just wonder if there was
  • 35:39any consideration of that.
  • 35:40Just again, this central place
  • 35:42where people could come for just
  • 35:44this very thing that Bob Kearns
  • 35:47was talking about where you can.
  • 35:49Uh, if that's research that that's teaching,
  • 35:51but this center that would allow for.
  • 35:55Took the provision of resources.
  • 35:57You know,
  • 35:57it's
  • 35:57interesting we talked about
  • 35:58this about creating a poor root
  • 36:00Center for inclusive practice,
  • 36:01like we could we build a center
  • 36:04that would actually we could just
  • 36:05go to one place and you can get
  • 36:08all of all of this in one place.
  • 36:10And that's still sort of in the back of
  • 36:12our mind, something we might work Tord.
  • 36:16We're focusing on now is trying to
  • 36:18figure out what what kind of skills
  • 36:20says people need across the board.
  • 36:21Back with the students,
  • 36:23staff and alumni and then trying
  • 36:24to fill in the blanks about what
  • 36:26we can do immediately and then
  • 36:27develop a long term strategy.
  • 36:29But we have talked about
  • 36:30trying to just have one.
  • 36:32I don't know if we call it
  • 36:34mercy actually like that.
  • 36:36But we have talked about
  • 36:37having just one place.
  • 36:38It might be easier,
  • 36:39but I think that might should be two or
  • 36:42three years out before we can actually
  • 36:44figure out what that would look like.
  • 36:46Short term trading.
  • 36:47Long term
  • 36:48strategy. I think that I think Cindy
  • 36:50there there was some benefits of
  • 36:53centralizing the source of resources.
  • 36:55Yeah, good example is when there was
  • 36:58the national slowdown of work across
  • 37:00universities for I think they also.
  • 37:03The question was then what do people do
  • 37:05in doing that day and the focus error
  • 37:09actually developed some some studies,
  • 37:11then courses short courses
  • 37:12for that specific day.
  • 37:14So so I think if you have a centralized.
  • 37:18Unit you can actually have it
  • 37:19respond to things fairly quickly,
  • 37:21but also it's a.
  • 37:22It's a place where people know they can
  • 37:25go to get help and maybe at the Med school.
  • 37:28For instance,
  • 37:29maybe putting it in Darren's
  • 37:31office might be a good idea.
  • 37:35I appreciate that the strategy
  • 37:36and all the suggestions around
  • 37:38better to be proactive and
  • 37:40seek out resources to help you.
  • 37:43Do your best as a as a faculty
  • 37:46in educational context.
  • 37:47I also think that it's important that
  • 37:50faculty that slip know that they're
  • 37:52going to be supported by the leadership.
  • 37:57You know, I think many of
  • 37:58us feel a certain. You know,
  • 38:00I'm a white man.
  • 38:03You know on edge about in my some of my
  • 38:06interactions and that I might
  • 38:07say the wrong thing or somebody
  • 38:09might take something that I say the wrong
  • 38:11way and I'd want to know that people
  • 38:13to know that I'm trying to do my best.
  • 38:15But also if I do slip up and somebody
  • 38:17is accusing me of something that
  • 38:19I have support of leadership.
  • 38:22Yeah yeah, one of the things
  • 38:24that one of the reasons why we brought Dolly
  • 38:27Chuggin first is because he talks about.
  • 38:30The growth mindset right so that we are
  • 38:32most of us were doing this work in no
  • 38:35matter where we are and it have a growth
  • 38:37mindset and I think that what we want to do
  • 38:40is start to articulate for our community
  • 38:42in particular students that you know.
  • 38:45This is an art.
  • 38:46Not only is an ongoing issue,
  • 38:47but there are ways in which we're
  • 38:49going to be learning things.
  • 38:51Different ways of being different ways
  • 38:52of doing different ways of speaking.
  • 38:54We're all going to have to continually,
  • 38:56you know, bro.
  • 38:57And so part of what we want to do,
  • 38:59and hopefully you'll see that is create
  • 39:01a state of grace for people who are
  • 39:03who are growing at different rates.
  • 39:06Really important for us to all be successful?
  • 39:09We want to be galvanized bar students.
  • 39:11They're they're young,
  • 39:12they know they have new ideas.
  • 39:14But we also want to make sure,
  • 39:16because interface that makes sense for them.
  • 39:20So I'll work on that as well.
  • 39:28So so, um, I'm curious about.
  • 39:32Resources that might be available
  • 39:35either within departments or within
  • 39:38schools to develop mentoring programs.
  • 39:41To address the distinctive
  • 39:44needs of of the of diverse.
  • 39:51New faculty hires an.
  • 39:56Whether there is a plan for that?
  • 40:02So. I, I think that.
  • 40:07I think I think the my my sense.
  • 40:11That's my sense.
  • 40:12The mentoring programs will have to be
  • 40:15tailored to the specific schools or
  • 40:17departments or programs, the So what
  • 40:20works on medicine may not work for.
  • 40:23I don't know neurobiology. So so I so I.
  • 40:27So I think that if you asking are
  • 40:30there people who done it before and
  • 40:32can advise one on how to do one?
  • 40:34I think yes.
  • 40:35Now I don't know there's going to
  • 40:37be a central central resources.
  • 40:39Let's say from the focus Officer
  • 40:41presence office for mentoring specifically.
  • 40:44Probably not.
  • 40:44But this is something that can be
  • 40:47negotiated at the school level for sure,
  • 40:50and you probably know John that that
  • 40:53Patrick O'Connor has a mentoring
  • 40:54program for actually mental,
  • 40:56so he teaches mentors or two
  • 40:58how to be mentors,
  • 40:59and it's been working pretty well.
  • 41:02So it's something we fund
  • 41:03from the Department,
  • 41:04but it might make sense to
  • 41:07fund it for more central.
  • 41:10Position that remains to be determined,
  • 41:12but I,
  • 41:13but I think you're being
  • 41:14a really important point.
  • 41:16I think the issue of mentoring when
  • 41:18we've asked faculty it's something
  • 41:20that's at the top top of mind all
  • 41:22the time for all junior faculty,
  • 41:24and that's something that people
  • 41:26feel they will get enough of.
  • 41:30The other the other question,
  • 41:32and I maybe this was alluded to
  • 41:35in some ways earlier is that. That
  • 41:41the need for potentially a small
  • 41:44grant program to either help faculty
  • 41:48get on back on track or two. 22
  • 41:54kind of kickstart things.
  • 41:58I think that that would be really helpful.
  • 42:01I think particularly it would be.
  • 42:04It might be worthwhile to look at
  • 42:07the startup packages that diverse
  • 42:09populations of faculty get when they
  • 42:12joined the faculty and and this would
  • 42:16be particularly valuable to have
  • 42:18a small grants program targeting.
  • 42:21Diverse faculty populations,
  • 42:23if it could be shown that.
  • 42:25They were disadvantaged at the
  • 42:27outset when they joined the faculty.
  • 42:29Yeah, right, that's a good point.
  • 42:32So yeah, good point.
  • 42:34So my comments about mentoring
  • 42:36actually relate to all faculty,
  • 42:38but I think underrepresented factors.
  • 42:40You feel the burden not known.
  • 42:42Men know mentoring more,
  • 42:44but this is something that
  • 42:46everyone complaints about.
  • 42:49Yeah. I think there was a question
  • 42:52submitted around if the history
  • 42:54of indigenous peoples and their current
  • 42:56roles inside would be considered by Yale
  • 42:58as we are looking at our initiatives.
  • 43:00So I see that as one of the questions that
  • 43:03was submitted an one of the things we are,
  • 43:06the committee has recommended in his report.
  • 43:10But is it in the five year plan?
  • 43:12Is that we not only look at the
  • 43:14history of Yale and slavery,
  • 43:16but right right after that?
  • 43:18Look at the history of yellow
  • 43:19with indigenous peoples so that we
  • 43:21have some sense of our own history
  • 43:23and so that so once we finish
  • 43:25the conversation around slavery,
  • 43:26there are our next goal would be
  • 43:28to try to try to understand our
  • 43:30relationship to Indigenous people so
  • 43:32we can have that conversation too.
  • 43:34And I think that part of what we
  • 43:36we are definitely looking at and
  • 43:38we expected my unit plans.
  • 43:39Our conversations with.
  • 43:40The Native American Cultural
  • 43:42Center are Native Americans,
  • 43:44faculty and staff about what some
  • 43:45of the needs are and what sort of
  • 43:48research is so that that would
  • 43:49be incorporated into the some of
  • 43:51the larger plans as well.
  • 43:53But a lot of that's probably going
  • 43:55to level within the research
  • 43:56communities and some of the College
  • 43:58in particular thinking of.
  • 43:59But yes,
  • 44:00we definitely intend to again look
  • 44:02at that population as well.
  • 44:04Yeah,
  • 44:04and there was a question also
  • 44:07about equity, so resources.
  • 44:08So for instance you know many,
  • 44:10many of the schools are working on
  • 44:13equity and salary, and I think we've
  • 44:15made significant progress on trying to
  • 44:17make salary compensation, equitable.
  • 44:19And the question is, is resources
  • 44:21allocation equitable across the board?
  • 44:23For instance,
  • 44:24when your new faculty is being recruited,
  • 44:26do they get the same sort of package?
  • 44:29The same lab space or whatever
  • 44:31they might need for their work?
  • 44:34And and I think that's that is something
  • 44:37we definitely want to focus on.
  • 44:40And we believe that it has a
  • 44:42large impact on on retention.
  • 44:44So for instance,
  • 44:45if somebody gets a lot more starter
  • 44:48package and one other another,
  • 44:50it is possible that the person who
  • 44:53gets less will be less successful.
  • 44:58And as a as an attempt to
  • 45:00jump start the process,
  • 45:02what we're going to focus on when we
  • 45:05provide federal funding is to actually
  • 45:07require that the the Department or
  • 45:10the OR the chair submits a mentoring
  • 45:12plan for the person to tell us
  • 45:15what is going to be happening.
  • 45:17Once you get fairly funding for
  • 45:19the person and will try to get
  • 45:22a sense of what resources are
  • 45:24available and how does it compare to.
  • 45:27With others working recruited so
  • 45:28it is not an easy thing to do
  • 45:30because all these discussions
  • 45:32are usually private discussions.
  • 45:33There is no standard equipment package,
  • 45:35but we will try our best to try to
  • 45:38figure out what the plan for the person
  • 45:41will recruit using federal funding.
  • 45:43For instance,
  • 45:44something we have some control
  • 45:46over for that person going forward.
  • 45:48And we recognize that there
  • 45:51are often inequities.
  • 45:53For whatever reason,
  • 45:54how people get set up at the
  • 45:56beginning and the initial conditions
  • 45:58are really important in how you,
  • 46:00whether or not you are successful.
  • 46:07If I may, I think it's that that's critical.
  • 46:09Setting people up to starting from
  • 46:11the same initial conditions into
  • 46:13combat in equities and startup.
  • 46:16But because faculty from traditionally
  • 46:19underrepresented backgrounds
  • 46:20and disadvantaged backgrounds
  • 46:21are also swimming upstream.
  • 46:24Against Univair against minority
  • 46:26tax and against micro aggression
  • 46:27against other cultural.
  • 46:28Things that may make their lives and
  • 46:31their success more difficult even
  • 46:32if they're starting from the same
  • 46:34starting point in terms of resources,
  • 46:36I think it's critical to recognize
  • 46:38that there may be necessary necessity.
  • 46:40They may hit bumps in the road,
  • 46:42and there may be a necessity
  • 46:44for support along the way.
  • 46:46That's acknowledged.
  • 46:47Certainly in the emphasis that
  • 46:48you've made on Mentor ship,
  • 46:50but that's going to that may require
  • 46:52at times access to resources as well.
  • 46:55Bridge funding and other things.
  • 46:56And so I think it's important to not
  • 46:59have the discussion of resources
  • 47:01and equity of resources focused too
  • 47:03much on equity because the fact is
  • 47:06it may take a little more resources
  • 47:08to help someone be successful
  • 47:10if they are disadvantaged in
  • 47:11other non financial ways.
  • 47:13And it's necessary to make sure
  • 47:15discussion of resources isn't just about
  • 47:17equity and startup but also about
  • 47:19the potential necessary necessity
  • 47:20to help along the way in order to
  • 47:23combat the non fiscal structural.
  • 47:25Impediments that people may be
  • 47:27pushing against in order to. I agree.
  • 47:29I mean, I think I think that equity
  • 47:31doesn't mean the resources are equal.
  • 47:34I think equity means the resources that you
  • 47:36needed to be successful or given to you.
  • 47:39So depends on what you're doing and
  • 47:41depends on what your current situation is.
  • 47:44So we are aware of this distinction
  • 47:46and will try to. Figure it out,
  • 47:49but this is this is really a team work.
  • 47:52It can't be run by the president's
  • 47:54office or by the Post office.
  • 47:56This is really at the level of the
  • 47:58section 'cause all the appointments
  • 47:59are made by section or program
  • 48:01leaders or or Department chairs.
  • 48:03And that's and I think this is
  • 48:05where the emphasis will be.
  • 48:10Other questions.
  • 48:17Um? Let's see in the
  • 48:20chat. Yeah, mandatory sexual
  • 48:22harassment training is an effective
  • 48:24way to teach employees. Right,
  • 48:26so you're asking if there's going to
  • 48:28be training around race and racism.
  • 48:30Yeah, so part of what we're looking
  • 48:32at is what training is going on
  • 48:34and what orientations are going on.
  • 48:36We're doing. Analysis will be doing
  • 48:38that and figure out where we where.
  • 48:40We might have gaps so.
  • 48:43So stay tuned for that.
  • 48:44We were going to do some don't
  • 48:46know if it's gonna be training.
  • 48:47Education will figure out what it
  • 48:49means to be doing what what we need.
  • 48:51But they need people need to
  • 48:52know about our initiatives,
  • 48:53our expectations and we need
  • 48:54to be consistent in what we're
  • 48:56saying across the board.
  • 48:57So we will do that.
  • 48:58I don't know what's going to be mandatory.
  • 49:00Haven't figured that out yet.
  • 49:03Because some actually some of our
  • 49:04psychology faculty told us that
  • 49:05sometimes management doesn't work
  • 49:06for when you talk about race.
  • 49:08So we have to figure out with them and
  • 49:10made with you what you would recommend.
  • 49:12But we do know we have to do a lot
  • 49:14of education and training around this
  • 49:16issue for everybody across the board.
  • 49:18So, so if I may ask the
  • 49:20whole group of questions.
  • 49:21So what do you think about
  • 49:22mandatory versus number?
  • 49:28I think mandatory is is good
  • 49:31for your universal exposure,
  • 49:32but no single event training is
  • 49:35going to accomplish the objective of
  • 49:37culture change that we want to see.
  • 49:40And so I think if you combine it
  • 49:42with other things and recognize
  • 49:45that a mandatory training is the
  • 49:47beginning of a discussion and that
  • 49:50the discussion needs to take place,
  • 49:52then
  • 49:53it's not so bad. We gotta do something
  • 49:57plus plus mandatory training. Yeah yeah
  • 50:00I think. Thinking about it as.
  • 50:04No professional development two
  • 50:051.0 two .0 three point 4 point so
  • 50:07that you could continue to grow and
  • 50:09continue to have conversations in
  • 50:10different ways at different times.
  • 50:12This has to be so,
  • 50:13so we I think we're using your
  • 50:15assumption to build out the
  • 50:17program that we will see,
  • 50:18but we won't see it for a year 'cause
  • 50:20we have to actually figure out what
  • 50:22the baseline is now who's doing what,
  • 50:24what it looks like is it being effective?
  • 50:27But John,
  • 50:28you're going to say something else.
  • 50:29You're going
  • 50:30to. Yeah, I was going to say one other thing,
  • 50:32which is that I I see the role of
  • 50:34the mandatory training is giving
  • 50:36the people the vocabulary to
  • 50:38participate in the discussion.
  • 50:40If you were going to have a
  • 50:43program on French literature,
  • 50:45you'd have a mandatory entry course
  • 50:48on French, because otherwise they
  • 50:51couldn't participate in.
  • 50:52And maybe this discussion of racism should
  • 50:56be approached similarly with the good
  • 50:58news is we just hired.
  • 51:02Name Elizabeth Conklin.
  • 51:03She started in September and she is
  • 51:05overseeing all of our discrimination,
  • 51:07harassment policies,
  • 51:08procedures are in our all of our
  • 51:10Accessibility programs as well,
  • 51:12and she's actually doing the first
  • 51:14look at what we have available.
  • 51:16So can standpoint of just you know
  • 51:18your entry and what we actually have
  • 51:20to require for compliance purposes.
  • 51:22She will be looking at that and so
  • 51:25we'll have some recommendations
  • 51:26for her at least a month or so.
  • 51:29So start with.
  • 51:30But again, I,
  • 51:31I think that we have adopted your.
  • 51:34Comment John to think that you
  • 51:35can't just do one thing and
  • 51:37expect people to feel like they
  • 51:39know what they're doing.
  • 51:40So we've got to figure out a way
  • 51:42to sort of layer our conversations
  • 51:44in different ways for different
  • 51:46different audiences.
  • 51:48I think the challenges we don't from
  • 51:50the field have a lot of effective
  • 51:53interventions around training.
  • 51:55There are some and one person is coming,
  • 51:58Patricia Divine in a couple of weeks,
  • 52:00but I think that's the challenge.
  • 52:03What happens if you're implementing
  • 52:05training that's not affect effective?
  • 52:07Or has bacha genic effects and so?
  • 52:09I think that's what you have to
  • 52:12really think about as well what?
  • 52:15What's the evidence behind the training?
  • 52:18And I think there's evidence to show
  • 52:20that mandating does not necessarily work
  • 52:22to change in the ways that you want.
  • 52:24So I think it really has to depend
  • 52:27on the quality of that training.
  • 52:30Yeah, and that's part of why we're really,
  • 52:32really focused on the assessment piece
  • 52:34of trying to set everything that we're
  • 52:36doing so we can make course corrections.
  • 52:38We can abandon something that just
  • 52:40doesn't seem to be working well.
  • 52:42You know we have all these faculty,
  • 52:44wonderful faculty members.
  • 52:45We want to be able to to use
  • 52:48their wisdom and an there,
  • 52:49and your sense of research to
  • 52:51figure out what we're doing.
  • 52:52We're not going well and build.
  • 52:54Build some something that we can
  • 52:56improve is working for ourselves
  • 52:58and for our communities and for the
  • 53:01higher education in general so.
  • 53:02So you're right,
  • 53:03that's what we got to sort of look at.
  • 53:06What we know now what we want
  • 53:07now in the future.
  • 53:13Any other questions or comments?
  • 53:16I hope I didn't miss anything in the chat.
  • 53:24How? Alright, well thank you
  • 53:27both so much. I know is incredibly
  • 53:29challenging to schedule given
  • 53:31everyones busy busy schedule.
  • 53:33So I really appreciate you being
  • 53:35here and hopefully we can have you
  • 53:38back for updates periodically and
  • 53:40also where you can learn about what
  • 53:42we're doing in in the Department.
  • 53:44We have a lot going on here as well,
  • 53:48so thank you all for joining
  • 53:50this afternoon and definitely
  • 53:51conversations to be continued.