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Like to introduce our next Speaker,

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Doctor Edward Kaplan.

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Doctor Kaplan is William N Andrea,

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a beach professor of operations

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research and as a professor of public

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health and a professor of engineering.

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He's an expert in operations research,

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mathematical modeling,

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and statistics, who studies problems

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in public policy and Management.

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Doctor Kaplan, thank you for being here.

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Thank you very much and

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Good afternoon everyone.

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I recognize I am the last thing

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between you and happy hour,

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but nonetheless I hope you will bear with me.

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I am taking a somewhat different Ave

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into this entire area of work because

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I came to this not as a researcher,

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but rather is a member of Yale's

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Public Health Kovid Advisory Committee.

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I think some of you have heard

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about the work of this committee.

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It's been meeting quite intensively

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since the very beginning.

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Of March originally charged by Paul Jenison,

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now chaired by Stephanie Spangler,

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polls the director of Yale Health and

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Stephanie is device focus for health fairs.

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You recognize many of the people

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who are on this panel.

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Basically,

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we were tasked to advise the L

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presidents and senior officials on

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public health aspects of this we started

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right into the middle of a crisis,

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literally just days before the first

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cases in Connecticut and at Yale.

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Or announced we are continuing

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to work to this day,

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typically in well they used

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to be morning phone calls.

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Now their morning zoom sessions every

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morning at 7:00 o'clock to try and

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work and support University decisions.

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Here are a number of different committee

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issues that have been addressed today.

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You can read them on the slide yourself

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so I won't go through them all,

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but I just want to mention that the

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issues that are highlighted here in orange.

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Are all issues are that involved

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what I would call scratch modeling?

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That is to say,

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mathematical models were essentially

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created in real time and on the fly

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to try and help answer questions

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as they occurred.

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So you'll remember for example receiving

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emails from the administration about

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the capping of University advance.

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Initially it size 100 then down to size

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20 and then eventually all events were

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effectively canceled that actually.

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Those recommendations Cam is the

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result of analysis that was conducted

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in a principled way trying to come up

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with appropriate crowd caps so that

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the probability that no transmission

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would occur in the event would be

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maintained at least 99% given the

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information that we had at the time.

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Again,

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this was done in the first week of March.

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Implications for the calendaring.

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Looking at the design of testing programs

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in a particular repeat screening

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and a number of other activities,

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some of which the committee didn't

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actually undertake but help to kick start,

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and they include the activities

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listed here so. Actually, it's been.

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It's been quite an experience to get

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to know the people on this committee

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from across the University and also

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to be involved in working on all

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of these issues in real time.

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Today I'd like to talk about two such

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projects and will start with a kick start,

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which actually has to do with this

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sludge sampling project that saw

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Domer mentioned when he spoke at the

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very beginning of the afternoon.

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And again, this is one of these ideas.

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It came about a couple of us.

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Were thinking what other

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ways could one manage?

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Uh, what could one gain information

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about the state of this outbreak,

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and the idea came up of

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environmental monitoring.

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The problem was is we didn't really know

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who in the University could do such a thing.

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The original proposal was actually to

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go to Union Station because of the

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frequent train travel between New

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Haven in New York and possibly study

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outflow into toilet swabs there anyway.

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Dan Weinberg, who also spoke earlier today.

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Uh, suggested to me that the Magic

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figure on campus with professor Jordan

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Patcha and environmental engineering,

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which turns out to be a world

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expert in these kinds of studies.

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I got in touch with Jordan.

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We had a discussion that same

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day we're now talking March 11th,

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and that led to a March 16th meeting with

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other researchers who quickly joined

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in some who would be doing sample collection.

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Some who are experts in the

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actual laboratory testing.

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Some people contributing analysis.

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Jordan suggestion.

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Everyone agreed that the actual target

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should be to wastewater treatment plant.

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Be cause this is a plant which is served

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serving the populations of New Haven,

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Hamden, East Haven and Woodbridge,

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and that the collection and detection

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of pathogens in Seward Sludge is

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something which is longstanding practice.

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We put together the two cross campus

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team and the first samples were already

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being collected on March the 19th,

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so less than two weeks from when the idea

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was first raised until the action started.

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And here is just a cover

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sheet of the article.

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Coming out that sod again mentioned

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earlier and I just think it's it's nice

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to look both of course to acknowledge all

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of the people involved in medical students.

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Other researchers from across the University,

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and you can really see how people

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from across Yale have come together

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to try and tackle this problem.

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So this is the East shore water

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pollution facility.

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40,000,000 gallons per day capacity.

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As I mentioned,

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it serves these four towns and the idea

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here was to start gathering samples daily.

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And the analysis I'll share with you

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today is based on data collected from

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March 19th until May,

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the first.

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You can see the little tag here.

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It says Yale sample.

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So here's what happens.

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Actually,

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there are two different replicas

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with two different primers,

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and so here what we see are the

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actual raw measurements of viral

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RNA copies per milliliter here.

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From these different primary replica

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combinations viewed overtime and

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just looking at these raw data.

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You can see that they're very noisy,

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but you can see the shape actually

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of an epidemic

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outbreak pretty much from start to finish.

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So how does one analyze noisy data like this?

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Well, the first thing to do is to smooth it.

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To do it in a very simple way,

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we're using something called low as,

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which is just a locally weighted

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regression scatter plot smoothing.

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It's a very common technique

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used for problems like this,

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and what we have on this first figure here.

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Are raw data and smooths both

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for the average RNA measurements,

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which are the blue dots and also for daily

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admissions to the Yale New Haven Hospital.

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But we stricted to residents of

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the same for towns that is served

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by the sewage treatment plant.

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And if you do the smooth,

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it's possible to re scale and reposition

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and you actually see that these

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sludge RNA measurements were peaking.

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This is 3 days before the local

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admissions data were peeking.

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You might have thought that there would be

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a longer lead time than just three days.

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Certainly if you compare the RNA measurement

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in the sludge data had actual covert cases,

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you see much more of a displacement,

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but remember the kovid cases or following

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from testing delays and also many,

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many people who are hospitalized don't

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actually get diagnosed for Cove it until

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after they've been admitted to the hospital.

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So there are all sorts of reasons for

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why you would expect the longer lag here.

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But perhaps a more interesting way to look

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at this information is in this last figure.

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What we have here in this block

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curve is actually what I'll refer

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to as the transmission potential

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for a mathematical model,

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which is a SARS covariance

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transmission potential which explicitly

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takes into account the variation

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infectious infectiousness by time.

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Since infection an one thing I will

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mention is that this curve was not.

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Calibrated to the sludge.

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Data in the sense of any kind of

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a least squares point by point

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fit or something like that.

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Whether this is a model that was

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informed by early transmission dynamics

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that had been originally estimated in

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China but then updated for Connecticut,

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and I'm going to go through those

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details and roll them.

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And the only real calibration

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exercise involved was trying to figure

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out looking backwards.

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When did this local outbreak start?

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So basically,

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it's a matter of just sliding this

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curve to the left and to the right,

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but in terms of the peak in

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the timing and everything else.

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It actually just fits this curve

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almost obviously soft little bit here,

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but it fits it really quite well

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without the calibration.

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So that actually gives us reason to

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think that something is going on here.

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So what actually is going on with this curve?

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Where is it coming from and how could

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it perhaps help us understand why the

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separation between the RNA signal

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on the slides in the admissions to

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hospital is 3 days when some people

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might have expected that to be a

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much longer lead time?

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So to do this, we go back to

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the basics and Epidemiology.

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Jenny pets are earlier talked about

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how people estimate what it called

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generation times in exponential

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growth rates to try and put together

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estimates of the reproductive number.

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This is a graph which actually shows you

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what the details of that operation is,

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what you actually have here is

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a model of the age of infection

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dependent transmission rate.

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This is an age of infection dependent model.

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And the famous reproductive number

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are not that you've all heard about

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so many times today is actually

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the area under this curve.

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So a person who is infected at

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the beginning in a surrounded

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by susceptible individuals.

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The number of persons that initially

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infected person would in fact

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is actually found directly from

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the area under this curve.

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This turns out to be a very

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very important concept,

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and we're going to come back

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to it over and over again,

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both for this application for the

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one I'm going to describe next now.

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Originally in the very first paper

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that came out of Wuhan in the

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New England Journal of Madison.

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We are not was estimated at about 2.3

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but actually working with Connecticut data.

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Some of the same data that for us

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was talking about just moments ago.

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It turned out that in order to

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match the early rise in hospital

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admissions data in Connecticut,

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actually a larger are not was needed.

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It works out to be about 3.3 and you

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remember hearing from Nick Rousakis

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that that is in the neighborhood of

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where many of the more recent estimates?

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Of the reproductive number have have

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come in OK, so how do we get this thing?

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I call the transmission potential?

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That is to say,

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how is it that we figure out what

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this black curve is in the diagram?

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So here's how it works and we're

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going to follow what I call the

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scratch model in quotation mark.

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This has been published now

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in the amsam Journal,

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so the first step is we have

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this original time dependent.

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I should say age of infection

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dependent transmission rate.

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We call that. Lambda of eggs.

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The second ingredient we have to ask

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ourselves is what is the problems

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of infection at chronological time?

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Key.

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So the particular data I'm showing you

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here is actually from April the 9th,

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which is actually at the peak of

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the viral signal from the sludge.

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So at Time T,

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how many people in the population?

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What percentage have been

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infected for zero days?

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One days, two days, three days and so forth?

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And that's computed inside the model.

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It's given by this curve pie of 80.

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Notice at this point, by the way,

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that the epidemic is actually waning already.

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The reason is the maximum

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part of this curve is not.

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At Zero,

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which are people just becoming infected,

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time zero really correspond.

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Say incidence it to people

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who are infected about a week

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earlier and already you see

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a light coming in anyway.

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What you have is this fraction of people

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who are been infected for a duration a

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you have this as the age of infection,

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a dependent transmission.

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So what you have to do is multiply

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these two curves together and that

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gives you this great curve down here.

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And a transmission potential is

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the area under the Gray curve,

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which is given by this interval.

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So that's actually where that

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transmission potential comes from.

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And now you go back and you say,

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Well, wait a minute,

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you showed us a curve of

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transmission potential.

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Overtime, that's right,

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that's exactly what I did.

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Every point on this curve corresponds to

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finding an area under the appropriate curve.

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The age of infection transmission

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isn't changing.

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What's changing is how many people

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have been infected for how long,

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so you'll notice here that we have many,

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many more people at the beginning

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here on the at the beginning,

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the first State of observation

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here was on March 19th.

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These are people who are

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infected just right around them,

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but of course they're not transmitting

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very much because it takes time

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until a person actually transmits the

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virus and this curve is going down.

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Here is the same curve I showed you earlier.

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This corresponds to the peak period

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now corresponding to the end.

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Here you'll notice it.

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Actually, the incidence of infection,

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which much higher three weeks ago here

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and currently it's already very low,

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so we get a smaller and we get

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a bigger are you get a smaller

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and that's how this model works.

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And that actually helps explain the mystery,

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because if you now put two curves

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on the same graph,

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both coming out of this model,

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the curve on the left which would be

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scared to the left axis is the actual

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incidence of SARS coronavirus two infraction,

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the curve to the right is

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the transmission potential.

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And the separation between the two

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curves is giving you the time lag

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from incidents to transmission

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potential to transmission potential.

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If you think about it is basically how

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much virus there isn't a community.

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It's sort of like a community viral load.

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If there was a way to actually measure

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that through viral testing in individuals,

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well effectively we're getting

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a signal of community viral load

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when we look at the sludge.

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So this is the answer to the mystery,

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because when we go back and say, Well,

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let's look at hospital admissions.

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Hospital admissions, of course,

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are also lag from incidents,

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but it turns out that there lag

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longer than the time from infection.

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Until this trans transmission

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potential moves they had.

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This is about a nine day lag.

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There's an extra 3 days here until you

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actually would see the admissions data,

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Peking, so that's an interesting story.

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It does tell you that you can understand

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what's going on in the sludge data,

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but it also answers the question

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as to why the lead time is perhaps

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not as large as people thought

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that it would be. Let's move on to

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a completely different problem.

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It's also related to some.

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Forest talked about an it has to

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do with repeat screening for the

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detection and control of this outbreak,

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and the emphasis here is really

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going to be on the detection

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and isolation of asymptomatic

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infections through viral testing.

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As we learn from Jenny Ann from

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others who spoke earlier today,

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most of the testing due date has

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been people who were symptomatic.

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As a consequence, you have cases.

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Driving tests as opposed to

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test discovering infections.

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With the advent of testing

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more more easily available,

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more frequent,

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the ability to test more frequently.

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We can turn that around and

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we can actually use testing to

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detect and isolate infections.

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The idea here is to gain actual

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control of transmission and

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to prevent local outbreaks.

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So it's not only about

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identifying individual patients.

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Most of these people actually would

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not have serious medical consequences.

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00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:28.346
The issue is to block transmission

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and to do this in an efficient

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00:16:31.015 --> 00:16:32.715
way requires intensive screening

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not once every six months,

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once every four months, once a month.

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00:16:37.500 --> 00:16:39.032
It requires intensive screening,

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00:16:39.032 --> 00:16:40.947
and so as I said,

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the focus here is to screen

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asymptomatic screen.

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00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:45.136
For asymptomatic infections,

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the goal is to shorten the time

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from infection until the isolation

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of those people who test positive.

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This is all PCR testing,

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not antibody testing. This is all.

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Based on PCR and so this is written

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recently been written about.

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I'm hopeful home with how we form

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in another doctor that many of you

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know at the medical school is also

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cross appointed with the management

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school in focusing on how to actually

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do this at a large level because

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the logistics of rapid screening

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can easily become overwhelming,

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00:17:21.360 --> 00:17:22.844
but nonetheless it's a

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very important activity.

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If the idea is to try an really

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curtail the spread of infection.

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So how does this work?

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Well,

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I'm going to kind of break this up into

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100 level courses to 200 level course.

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New graduate course.

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So here's the 100 level.

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Of course,

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let's all pretend that in fact

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Christmas runs about 2 weeks.

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And let's assume that we have

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a perfectly sensitive test.

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00:17:46.740 --> 00:17:48.702
And let's assume that we schedule

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everybody to get screened once a week.

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So Dan is going to be screened on Mondays,

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and forest is going to be screened

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on Wednesdays,

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and I'm going to be screened on

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Sundays and basically once a week

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we're each going to be tested.

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If this test was perfectly sensitive,

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what's going to happen well

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where the infection would fall

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if one of us became infected?

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The infection knows nothing

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about the screening process.

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00:18:11.430 --> 00:18:12.372
It's totally independent

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of the screening process,

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so on average it's going

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to fall in the middle.

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It would distribute itself uniformly.

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So what that means is that you would

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be detecting infections on average 3.5

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days after the person was infected.

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00:18:24.620 --> 00:18:26.190
Some people you detect only

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some people you detect later,

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but on average would be 3.5 days and

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at most Seven days after they occur.

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If you believe that there's a 14 day course

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of infectiousness into detecting people,

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00:18:36.870 --> 00:18:38.440
on average after 3.5 days,

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that's one quarter of the way

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through the infectious period.

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Which means that you would be blocking

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3/4 of 75% of potential transmission days.

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If you isolate people who you are

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finding testing positive alright,

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00:18:50.080 --> 00:18:52.108
but we noted the screening tests

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are not perfectly Saturday.

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Suppose it's only 70% sensitive.

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What's going to happen while in

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the first week you would catch

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70% of people who are infected?

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But there's also a 21% chance it

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00:19:03.576 --> 00:19:05.544
would catch someone who was infected

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in the first week in the second week

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because they could test negative in

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00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.776
the first week but still test positive.

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In the second week,

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this is assuming that sensitivity

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is not dependent on an individual's

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00:19:17.962 --> 00:19:20.213
biologies and a person who would

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test negative falsely would always

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00:19:22.308 --> 00:19:23.565
test negative falsely.

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Rather the assumption here is that

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the real reason for imperfect testing

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00:19:27.981 --> 00:19:30.447
an for less than perfect sensitivity

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here has more to do a sample

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collection and issues like that.

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00:19:34.730 --> 00:19:37.334
So now it turns out that instead

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of blocking 75% of transmission,

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you block 58% of transmission.

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But that's still pretty effective.

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If you have a root productive number in

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the neighborhood of two, for example,

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and you're blocking 58% of the transmission,

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that would already get you below 1.

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So that's The Level 100 course

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rationalization for repeat screening.

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Now what I'd like to do is give

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you the level two, of course,

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so remember this graph.

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It's our friend from the earlier study.

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This is the transmissibility

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by age of infection,

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and suppose I detect an infected person

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00:20:08.020 --> 00:20:10.410
by screening right here at the red line,

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all right and where that red line

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00:20:12.482 --> 00:20:15.022
is going to fall is going to depend

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00:20:15.022 --> 00:20:17.356
on how frequently I test if I'm

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00:20:17.356 --> 00:20:19.066
testing quite frequently is going

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to push the red line to the left.

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00:20:21.730 --> 00:20:23.458
If I'm not testing so frequently,

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00:20:23.460 --> 00:20:25.756
it pushes the red line to the right,

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but wherever the Red Line Falls,

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00:20:27.490 --> 00:20:29.506
if you isolate the person found infectious,

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the blue area to the right of

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the red line is blocked,

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00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:34.112
its transmission that would

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00:20:34.112 --> 00:20:35.264
have happened but doesn't.

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00:20:35.270 --> 00:20:37.139
The new reproductive number you have as

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00:20:37.139 --> 00:20:39.177
a result of the repeat screening program

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00:20:39.177 --> 00:20:41.310
is still the area under the curve,

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00:20:41.310 --> 00:20:43.614
but it's only the area of this part,

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right here.

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Now of course,

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the timing which this is interrupted

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is itself random,

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because while you might be

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screening on schedule,

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the infection isn't infecting

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00:20:53.414 --> 00:20:55.194
people on the same schedule,

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so you have to take into account the

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distribution of where this lies,

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but mathematically,

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that is not difficult to do.

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So now will go to the graduate course

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00:21:05.252 --> 00:21:07.700
and just to make life interesting,

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let's imagine that we're considering

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00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:10.548
a residential campus,

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00:21:10.550 --> 00:21:12.758
and maybe that residential campus has

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00:21:12.758 --> 00:21:15.200
10,000 students who are living on site.

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And here are the kinds of parameter

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variations that we consider here at

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the beginning of the school year,

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everyone is susceptible or perhaps

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looking at some of forest projections,

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maybe 15% or more have already

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become infected, and so maybe only

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80% of the students are susceptible.

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Suppose the tests are only 70% sensitive.

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These are all variables which

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can be changed in the analysis.

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Suppose we test weekly.

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Suppose we test bye week was suppose

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we don't bother testing at all.

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Suppose we account not only for

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internally generated outbreaks

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where you start with your RO,

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an initial person comes in,

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or a couple of people come in infected and

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the whole thing just generates from there,

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but you also include the possibility

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it we have a residential campus.

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People are going to go off campus,

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don't be infected in the community,

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and bring infections back that it

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campus or visitors from off campus could

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come in and infect students as well.

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We take a look at a number of

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different reproductive numbers,

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not just one which is the same thing as

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we can get a number of different age

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dependent transmission curves, land of A.

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And let's do a Sprint.

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Let's ask what happens if we try and

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pack the whole fall semester between

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September 1st and November 20th,

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which happens to be the Friday before

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Thanksgiving. What happens, OK?

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Let's find out what happens,

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so I'm going to show you graphs

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of the cumulative incidence of

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infection just for a few scenarios.

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So you get an idea of how this works.

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Let's start with a relatively low

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reproductive number of only one and a half.

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00:22:48.450 --> 00:22:50.598
That would suggest that social distancing

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procedures taken on the campus actually

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are affective and its students are,

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by and large,

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going along with them,

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00:22:57.430 --> 00:22:59.220
but on the other hand,

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we still will have imported infections

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coming from the outside.

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And suppose that are coming in at

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a rate of one per day,

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which means if we're looking at 80 days,

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there would be 80 infections

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imported just because of people

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00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:15.079
going around town or visitors coming

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to school here on the left axis is

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the cumulative incidence infection.

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If you took this situation,

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it did no testing whatsoever and

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basically just let the outbreak

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run unmitigated.

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Here is what happens on the right axis,

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if indeed you do screening.

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00:23:29.590 --> 00:23:31.588
And if you disquieting biweekly every

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other week, or if you do screening.

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Weekly and what happens?

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What would happen here?

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Is that over this run of 80 days

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you would end up with 20% of

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the students or the residents.

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I should say on campus students

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and graduates to interpret.

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Perhaps also some workers who are

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00:23:49.208 --> 00:23:51.653
resident and in any event you would

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00:23:51.653 --> 00:23:53.330
have about 20% being infected.

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00:23:53.330 --> 00:23:56.090
But if you screen everybody biweekly in this,

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see which situation following the

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theory that I showed you earlier,

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you're going to have about 3 1/2%

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look at the difference 20% for

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3 1/2% from biweekly screening.

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Only one and 1/2% of the

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screen on a weekly basis.

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This is an example of a scenario that

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could be controlled by weekly screening.

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Let's make the scenario more challenging.

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Suppose it turns out that the behavior

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on campus is more or less like what was

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going on in Mujan at the beginning.

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00:24:22.850 --> 00:24:24.410
So we gotta reproductive number

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more like 2.3 instead of 1.5. Well,

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now what happens if you don't do anything?

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And if you basically let this go unmitigated,

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you're in real trouble,

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because 80% or so will become infected.

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And, of course, that would never happen.

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00:24:37.060 --> 00:24:38.914
I'm just showing you what the

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power of screening is.

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Suppose you screw. In this situation,

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once every other week biweekly screening,

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you still end up with 12.5% of

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00:24:46.182 --> 00:24:47.430
the students being infected.

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By the way, as I say,

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These things just think what this implies

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about isolation capacity that you would

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00:24:53.690 --> 00:24:55.880
need in order to put people getting sick.

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00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:57.580
But weekly screening in this

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00:24:57.580 --> 00:24:59.280
scenario still is infecting less

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than 2 1/2% of the students overall.

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And finally,

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let's really try and challenge

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us a little bit more.

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Here's what reproductive number of

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3.3 this is closer to what we saw

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in Connecticut at the beginning,

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based on the initial rising hospitalization.

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Or smiles have similarly rapid

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increase at the very beginning.

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We're still keeping up by one

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00:25:17.110 --> 00:25:17.965
imported infection everyday.

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Now, of course, if you didn't screen,

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you would have a complete disaster

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because almost everyone would

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be infected in this scenario.

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But again, we would not let that happen.

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On the other hand,

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look what happens if we scream.

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BI weekly screening doesn't really

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get you enough.

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It would tell you that you go from

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like 100% to 46% or something,

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so you cut it in half.

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00:25:39.190 --> 00:25:41.353
But who would accept half of the

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00:25:41.353 --> 00:25:42.676
students almost getting infected

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00:25:42.676 --> 00:25:44.668
and yet weekly screening in this

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00:25:44.668 --> 00:25:46.733
very same scenario gives you a

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00:25:46.733 --> 00:25:48.423
cumulative incidence of four percent.

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4% of 10,000 is still a sizable

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number of students,

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but it's not an uncontrollable number.

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So this,

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this again is an example of what

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happens with weekly screening.

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Now.

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It's possible that even weekly screening.

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Could be overrun and here, for example,

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just again to give you a sense of

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the kinds of analysis one can do.

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We have no imported infections,

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one per week, one per day.

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5 today we have our different

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reproductive numbers.

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We have weekly screening.

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00:26:12.952 --> 00:26:14.800
We have biweekly screening and here

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we see the numbers of infections that

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would occur over the same 80 day run.

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00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.355
The first thing to do if you

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want to compare by we've got the

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weekly screening is just look

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at the difference in this scale.

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We're talking thousands.

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Here were up at that level only

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in the very very worst case.

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But this.

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This has a pretty important lesson to it,

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00:26:33.280 --> 00:26:35.982
which is if you're into the weekly

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00:26:35.982 --> 00:26:38.328
screening world I hope I've convinced

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you that we should be there if

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for it down in this region were OK.

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Up here we have one imported infection for

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day an we have a reproductive number of

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say 2.26 which is doing well number well,

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you know we're still going to have 200

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infected students at the end of the 80 days.

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Anything out here of course

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these are disastrous scenarios.

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So weekly screening isn't the panacea.

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It doesn't always work.

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It really depends on what the

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underlying parameters are here,

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which suggests to me that if you're going to.

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00:27:13.860 --> 00:27:15.995
Rely on a screening program to get

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00:27:15.995 --> 00:27:18.250
you through a residential program.

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00:27:18.250 --> 00:27:20.871
You have got to be very, very,

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00:27:20.871 --> 00:27:22.976
very confident that your epidemiological

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00:27:22.976 --> 00:27:25.321
scenario really is gonna land you

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in this part of the parameter space.

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00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:29.596
'cause if you move over here,

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it becomes lights out pretty fast.

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So to summarize,

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modeling can help understand transmission

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dynamics that has a lot of applicability

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00:27:37.420 --> 00:27:39.751
and I hope I've illustrated that with

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the sludge data modeling can help

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understand intervention proposals.

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I've gone into detail on repeat screening.

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00:27:45.770 --> 00:27:47.834
But of course there are many

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other interventions that one

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can study in the same way.

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Epidemic modeling in general

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is not about curve fitting.

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It is not like election polling.

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It's not like trying to make a guess and

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see if you kind of hit the hit the target.

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Rather,

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it's more like trying to navigate

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a car through the fog.

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Want to understand transmission dynamics?

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And you want to use that understanding

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to assess alternative decisions or

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interventions to support decision-making?

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And that's my story,

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and I'm sticking with it.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you very much.
