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It's my our colleague, Hui

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Kao from,

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applied physics and physics in

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in the school of, engineering.

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So, Hui, it's, the John

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Malone professor of applied physics,

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and, her research focuses on

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mesoscopic

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physics, complex nanophotonics,

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she got her PhD in

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applied physics from Stanford, and

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then,

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she was on the faculty

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for Northwestern before she joined

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Yale,

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lucky for us. And, she's

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been a a a pioneer

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and leader in

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on random, working on random

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lasers. And and recently, she's

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been, working on,

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trying to see do deep

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tissue imaging, and I think

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that's what she's gonna talk

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about. And doctor Kao is

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an elected member of the

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National Academy of Sciences and

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also the, American Academy of

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Arts and Sciences. So, Huey?

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Let me try to see

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if I can find it.

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Okay. So first, it's a

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great pleasure for me to

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give this talk. I'd like

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to thank John for this

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invitation.

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I'm really trained as a

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physicist, and I'm doing applied

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physics engineering.

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I know nothing about the

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immune system,

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but I would love to,

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you know, see whether I

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can, you know, collaborate with

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people here at your medical

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school.

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So my talk, I'm gonna

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start with the introduction about

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my my previous work as

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I'm trying to show what

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we're trying to do right

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now. Hopefully, you know, this

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will just to give you

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some idea what I'm doing,

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and I'm very much looking

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forward to, you know, talking

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with you and see what

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are the potential collaboration we

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could have.

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So,

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okay. So this is, actually,

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my title. But before that,

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as I said, I want

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to talk a little bit

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of what we have what

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I've been doing, especially kind

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of you can collaborate with

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people at your medical school.

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So I'm, doing optics. Right?

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So I think for optical

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imaging,

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what is really important, it

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is the light source for

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illumination.

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And especially for wide field

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imaging like a microscope,

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we all know that mostly

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people using, you know, a

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lamp or LUD. Right?

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But, those are has a

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limited intensity. If you want

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to,

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tissue or get into some

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material has some absorption,

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this may not be sufficient,

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you know, enough intensity.

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So of of course, you

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know, people to say, how

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about we go to lasers?

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Because laser is much, you

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know, brighter.

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Right? So that is, you

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know, really or superluminescent

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LED. You have a, you

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know, you know, much stronger

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signal or much stronger excitation.

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But I want to show

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there's another thing important in

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addition to brightness.

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That is the coherence.

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So we know that, you

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know, you know, laser, it

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is coherent, where there's a

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LED or lamp is incoherent.

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And this coherence actually here

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is really hurting us because

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that actually can introduce incoherent

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artifact, which I'm gonna show

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you in particular like a

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speckle noise. Maybe some of

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you have already seen that.

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So what we really ideal

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light source

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is to, you know, as

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bright as a laser, a

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standard laser,

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but it has a low

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coherence. So we don't have

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all this coherent artifact

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if we we try to

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use this as a illumination

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source.

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So we have been trying

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to study how we can

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find, you know, a light

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source that combine the advantage

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of a laser and also

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a lamp. Right? So that's

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actually we I got into

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this random laser,

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which can really, produce a,

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you know, a speckle free

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image.

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So here shows example. You

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see this kind of a

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a speckled image. That's when

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we try to image a

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a sample, and then there's

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some scattering, you know, you

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know, layer in between the

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sample and the objective lens

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and also to the camera.

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We are using a laser

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as illumination.

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You see that we see

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all the speckle pattern. We

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don't see anything else. That's

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really a strong coherent artifact

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coming from this, you know,

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interference

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of this laser.

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So we actually develop a

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random laser

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and that using that as

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illumination,

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you see that actually, we

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can really even we have

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a strong scattering we have

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significant scattering here, we can

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still see this kind of

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features.

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And this kind of random

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laser can be as bright

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as a conventional

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laser. So that is really,

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give us a more powerful

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source for speckle free imaging,

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especially for full field imaging.

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So that is what I

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did the first part, try

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to get rid of speckle.

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But it turns out speckle

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is not always bad. Because

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even though they cannot take

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a allow us to see

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the structure, they can allow

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allow us to see the

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motion.

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Because if you see, for

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example, if there's something was

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moving when they generate speckle

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pattern, the speckle pattern will

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change.

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If you integrate over a

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certain time, the speckle pattern

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will average out so you

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have a low contrast.

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So speckle contrast tell us

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the motion.

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So what would be ideal

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is that if we can

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switch the laser source, the

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coherence,

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I can first get into

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low spatial coherence. I can

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see the structure.

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Then I can switch to

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high spatial coherence. I can

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see the speckle and how

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they're moving, how they're changing.

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Then I can see the

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flow.

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So here shows one example,

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which I I should collaborate

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with professor, Michael Choma and

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Mustafa

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Koha here at the medical

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school. We try to imaging

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the, you know, this, you

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know, heartbeat

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of a a leading tadpole.

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So for this kind of

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tadpole here, so what we

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want, we want to see

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how this, you know, the

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this heartbeat, what can happen

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to the structure.

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We also want to see

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what is the flow

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because this is the animal

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mode of heart disease.

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So here, this basically show

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that we develop a laser.

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We can switch very quickly

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the spatial coherence back and

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forth.

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So if I can,

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oh, why I cannot,

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play the

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can somebody help me to

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play the video or

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I have to play this

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okay. Anyway, this video is

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not working.

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I get okay. No. I

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think okay. Let me try

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to see what I can

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just use in this thing

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here too.

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Right. Okay. Folder.

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Oh,

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okay. So

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okay. Anyway

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so

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the unit the the this

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thing is not playing.

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I have a unit here.

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Oh, somehow, I think this

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cannot play. I don't think

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it's gone. Okay. Anyway, so

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that's fine. I think it's

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the same.

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No problem. Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I see maybe when

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we,

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translate this file, there's some

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issue there. So, anyway, you're

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supposed to see this heart

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is beating. As I can

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see, there's a flow of

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the blood from one chamber

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to another chamber simultaneously.

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So this allows to see

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simultaneously the structure,

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change and also there's a

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shape change there. So this

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is basically,

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allow, you know, them to

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really study what is this,

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you know, if there's some

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disease there, what happens to

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the deformation and what, I

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mean, what happened to the

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flow of blood. Because the

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contrast shown as the yellow

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here tells you how much

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blood in each location.

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You can say, well, maybe

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I can also do this

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with ultrasound. Why you want

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to do this with, you

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know, light? Because light can

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give us much better spatial

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resolution.

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So, you know, for some

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application, this could be useful.

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Alright. So that is the

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first part we developed given

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a light source. We tune

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the coherence with different applications

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because the reason I have

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to say I really, enjoy

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collaboration with Michael,

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the most offer because they

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really tell me what they

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need, what kind of light

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source they need, and then

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this will help me to

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really develop this kind of

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light source for the application.

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So this is very important

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for engineer because we have

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tools, but we don't know

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what this can be useful

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for. Right?

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So that is the first

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part. And now the second

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part is that, we also

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try to do some computational

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imaging.

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Meaning that, you know, we

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try to do structure illumination.

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We try to illuminate, you

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know, the sample with some

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particular patterns so that, for

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example, can give us some

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better resolution or give us

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some, you know, additional feature

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which we can now do

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for homogeneous illumination.

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So for this, we actually

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are using speckle pattern because,

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you know, compared to periodic

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structure people use for this

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kind of structure illumination,

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actually, speckle pattern has some

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additional advantage.

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For example,

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vertical,

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axial sectioning.

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I will not get into

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those detail, but what we

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did is that we actually

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can design the speckle pattern,

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not just using, like, a

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a a common speckle pattern.

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We can design the speckle

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pattern for particular, you know,

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application,

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and then we can really,

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use that to enhance the

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imaging performance.

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So this, again, we actually

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collaborate with, professor Jorga Viverstov

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here at your medical school

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to using this, design spec

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pattern

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for parallelized nonlinear pattern illumination

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microscopy.

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This is based on fluorescence

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photo switching.

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So just show you a

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simple example here. So what

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we did is, for example,

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outside of this region, this

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is just a I mean,

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illustration with a standard speckle

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pattern people use. And in

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the central box here, it

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is a particular speckle pattern

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we designed.

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And then, if we're using

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this to illuminate this, you

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know, protein,

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and then for the bright

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regime, the protein will switch.

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And in the dark regime,

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they will not switch, so

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they can still fluorescent when

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we excite them.

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So now you can see

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the fluorescence here. Now you

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can see a very different

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things here. You know, outside

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using standard

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speckle, illumination,

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you can see this kind

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of, you know, like, this

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kind of,

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elongated or this kind of

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a network of fluorescence, you

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know, from the sample, which

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is hard to tell what's

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going on. But inside here,

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you see the fluorescence coming

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from isolated

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individual, you know, bright, you

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know, I mean, region there.

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So this actually coming from

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those dark region which we

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design in this kind of

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speckle pattern, and this actually

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can give us a better

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resolution.

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So we actually show that,

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we can break the optical

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diffraction limit three times, which

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allow us get a three

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times better

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spatial

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resolution.

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So this is basically to

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you know, we are actually

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continue this design in the

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speckle pattern for particular applications

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so that, you know, to

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optimize so that we can

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combine with the, you know,

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reconstruction

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algorithm, which people have developed

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so that we can simultaneously

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optimize hardware, which is illumination,

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and the software, which is

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this algorithm to reconstruct the

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information.

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So, again, we would like

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to see what potential application

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this could be,

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for medical application.

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So

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the next one, which we

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have been studying is, actually,

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this is a a deep

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tissue imaging.

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Like, John just mentioned, we

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actually recently got, also,

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a phase two grant from

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this Charles Zuckerberg initiative

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on deep tissue imaging.

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And, so our goal is

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try to utilize the correlation

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engineering

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to achieve deep multi photon

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microscopy.

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And,

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our, again, our, you know,

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you know, approach

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is, again, on the light

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source because light source is

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really the engine for optical

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microscopy.

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If you see the last,

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I don't know, twenty, thirty

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years, all there's a breakthrough

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in optical, you know, imaging

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is coming from

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the drum or the light

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source, ultra short, you know,

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pulses and other things. So

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we want to build a

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next generation of the laser

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source for better, deeper, and

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a gentle microscopy.

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So for this one here,

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we actually have a team.

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We actually have a a

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collaborations

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from professor Tian Yu Wang

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from Boston University and and

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also professor from Cornell University

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who really is a, you

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know, world leader on, you

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know, not two photon, three

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photon microscopy.

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And, also, we are fortunate

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to have,

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Logan Wright, who's a young

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assistant professor, join Yale applied

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physics department,

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working together to develop this

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kind of light source. So

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we are engineers and those

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you know? So,

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what particularly we want to

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do, I will not get

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into much detail,

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is that what we want

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to is really, to precisely

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tailor the coherent multimodal laser

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so that we can maximize

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the multi photon absorption efficiency,

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in this complex fluorescent molecules.

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So, basically, we want to

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say what kind of fluorescent

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molecules we want to target,

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and so we want to

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see how we can maximize

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this multi photon absorption

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by tailoring this illumination source.

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Okay? So in some way,

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we want to co design

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the light source also with

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the molecule so that we

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can enhance this kind of

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three photon,

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microscopy

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that is mostly for the

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tissue imaging, like go to

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the brain imaging.

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So,

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this is, like, a overview

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what we have been what

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I've been doing so far.

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And also, I will now

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I want to go to

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this, you know, wavefront shaping.

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So this is another technique

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I wish to introduce to

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you, to see whether that

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could be applied for immune

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system.

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So

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we know that, you usually,

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you know, why we cannot

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see deep into a tissue?

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Because of the light scattering,

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not because the absorption.

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So you can see this

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actually, you know, if you,

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you know, in a foggy

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day. Right? If you see,

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you know, what's going on,

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you know, actually, if you

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see something, you know, close

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by, that is easy to

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see. That's coming from, you

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know, single scattering with single

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reflection.

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Now if you go a

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little bit, you know, deeper

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in there, you still can

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sort of see some, you

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know, some something there, but

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it's not so easy.

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And this kind of actually

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signal can be reconstructed,

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or, you know, extracted from

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optical coherence tomography,

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from multifocal, you know, microscopy,

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from confocal, you know, microscopy.

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So those you you you

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can do that, you know,

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if you do this in

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a tissue.

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But if you go even

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deeper in,

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that become a mission impossible

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because you just cannot see

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anything. Right? So that is

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really what we want. We

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wanna go really deeper in,

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to see what's going on

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there. So, we want to

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push this frontier.

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So that's why I think

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from the imaging to biological

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tissue, there's two regimes. Of

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course, if there's nothing there,

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that's perfect. You just have

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a lens you can image

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it perfectly. Right? For example,

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if you can make your

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brain become transparent, then you

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can just do that. But

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if you, have some, you

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know, like a slight aberrations

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or, like, the scatterings, you

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see this kind of distorted

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image, but you still can

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guess something out of that.

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But what we are really

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interested in, you go really

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deeper in and then you

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see all this kind of

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scattering, give you a scattering,

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like a speckle pattern. We

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just cannot see anything anymore.

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Right? But we still want

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to see something. So how

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can we get you know,

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how can we do that?

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So, you know, you're not

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to really see something deep

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inside the way to first

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get the light deeper in.

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Right? Then we can probe

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something.

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So the first,

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task is whether we can

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focus in light through this

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strongly scattering, you know, medium.

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So because I said, if

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you have light going through

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a scattering medium, it's become

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a really a speckle. Right?

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You don't see anything. But

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I want still focusing light

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to a spot after this

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strongly scattered medium. You say,

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how can I do that?

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Actually, this is basically we

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can use in this so

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called waveform shaping,

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or we can precompensate

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the effect of scattering.

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So in other words, if

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I think about I have

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a laser beam, I go

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to a specialized modulator.

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If I can modulate this

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wavefront

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in a smart way, and

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then when the light is

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scattered from different, you know,

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paths into this particular

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position, they can interfere constructively,

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and some they can greatly

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enhance the intensity at this

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position with which.

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So this, you can really

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get a light deeper in,

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and people have already shown

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that.

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Actually, this enhancement originally,

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become getting to a thousand

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times higher. Now, actually, people

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can go to one hundred

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thousand times stronger

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intensity

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enhancement. So that you can

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really enhance the intensity at

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some location.

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So now if you have

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a way to do that,

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to develop to get the

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light in there to excite

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some molecules,

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to do the imaging, we

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need to scan these positions.

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If we can scan these

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positions, now we can get,

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we can get the image.

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And this one, actually, people

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have tried to work using

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this for the memory effect.

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I don't have time to

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get into that. But I

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want to show one example

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which people try to, not

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my group,

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but actually, people try to

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show that you can, do

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this optogenetic control of cell

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signaling pathway so there's a

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highly scarring, skeleton mouse skull.

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So, basically, if you have

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a, you know, skull, it

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is highly scattering. If you

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just send a light through

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it, using objective lens, you

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just don't get anything. You're

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diffused away.

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Of course, you can say

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we can't use an optical

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fiber, which is still really

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important, you know, technology,

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but the question is this

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will be somehow invasive.

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So how we can do

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it noninvasively,

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and that's that's what people

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have shown that by shaping

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this wavefront,

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we can really, focus, you

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know, deep inside,

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you know, through this scattering

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skull. And then by scanning

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this spot, you know, you

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can get the image there.

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But then you say, how

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can I know where I

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focus the inside? I I

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don't even, you know, drill

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a hole. How can I

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see what is inside?

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To do that, we need

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a guide star.

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A guide star, you know,

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can be fluorescence markers,

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can be nonlinear optical particles,

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can be, you know, some

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some people using photo acoustic

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feedback

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or ultrasound or kinetic guide

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stars. So there's many different

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type of guide stars people

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have been developed

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over the last, decade,

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try to really help to

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focus in light deep into

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the system there.

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So there has been a

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lot of work in there,

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so I don't have time

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to get into that. But

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I think this is basically

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a wavefront shaping maybe allow

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us to see something deeper

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into that.

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Then you say, well, fine.

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You probably can go somewhere

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deeper in, but how but,

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you still need to put

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something into your system like

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a guide star to help

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you. Right? But how about

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complete noninvasive?

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If we really have complete

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noninvasive,

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there's another technology called a

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called a diffusive optical tomography.

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So this is basically,

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has been widely

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used in brain imaging.

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Basically, you know, you can

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see array of, you know,

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laser diodes or LEDs,

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placed on, you know, together

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with the, you know, these

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photo detectors, they are interleaved

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and and placed on the

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skull.

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So, I mean, what happened

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to that when the you

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know, from a light source,

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you can the light can

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be injected. This usually is

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a near infrared light, which

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has less absorption and less

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scattering so it can go

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through the skull.

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And then

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get into this brain, and

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after all this kind of

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scattering inside, a small component

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can be really remitted

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at some distance away from

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the original injection location.

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And,

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usually,

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those kind of remitted light

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will carry information deep inside

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the brain.

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You can see that if

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you further increase the distance

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between source and the detector,

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the the the light had

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to go deeper even deeper

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in would take information

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even from a deeper regime.

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That is better.

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But what is the, you

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know,

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difficulty?

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The difficulty is the signal

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is very weak. If you

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want to increase the distance

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between source and the detector,

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the signal scales as one

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over this distance squared.

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So if you double the

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distance, that means you are

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going to, you know, have

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your intestine four times weaker.

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So what is yeah. So

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yeah. So what is our

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approach?

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Our approach is to shape

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the input wave front so

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that we can really enhance

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the light injection

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into this brain,

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or the diffuse of media

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so so that we can

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enhance this remitted signal.

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So, basically, we're showing here

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that indeed we can actually

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enhance this, okay, remission signal,

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the, remission signal enhancement

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can approach about ten times.

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And meanwhile, the sensitivity

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of this remitted signal to

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the internal absorption change can

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also be increased ten times.

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So I think my time

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is, I mean, getting close.

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So let me try to

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finish with last thing, and

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then I'll be I'll be

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done. So, of course, I

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said this one, we want

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to do non invasive. Non

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invasive can only go you

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so far. You can know

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eventually, if you really wanna

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go very deeply in, we

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want to go through the,

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you know, the fiber using

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the endoscope. Right? You you

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want to dip in there.

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And the the best is

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to use multimode fiber because

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they have many more spatial

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channels, carry more information.

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But the multimode fiber also

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give you speckle pattern because

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of this random mode mixing.

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So, again, we can use

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a wavefront shaping to focusing

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light,

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you know, at the distal

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end of the fiber by,

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you know, using this kind

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of same technique, specialized modulator.

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In fact, using this kind

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of, you know, specialized modulator,

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we can control not only

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the output, you know, the

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at a distal end of

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the fiber, what's a spatial

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pattern, but also what is

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a temporal pulse shape and

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also what is a polarization

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state. And all this can

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be used to probe the,

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you know, the molecules or

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cells at the other end

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of this, monte mode fiber.

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So with that, I think

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I'll stop here, and thank

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you for your attention.

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Thank you.

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We actually have time for

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some questions.

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Thank you. So I was

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wondering,

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in the deep tissue imaging,

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how is it calculated

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what the correction would be

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for the wavefront going in?

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I know you don't you

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don't want to get too

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too much of details, but

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how how would you know

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how to apply that correction?

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So the question is how

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do we know what the

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front end to send in

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to the that's what I

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said. We need a guide

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star.

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If you have a guide

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star, it is a fluorescent

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marker with some, you know,

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a nonlinear particles or even

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people using some bubble bursting,

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whatever, to give you acoustic

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signal. If you have something

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in there, then that will

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tells you what is the

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input wavefront. Indeed, you need

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something inside.

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On that note, like, do

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you actually do you think

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you can so back back

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to the machine learning aspect

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also, can you generate sort

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of, like, reasonably random inputs

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and actually learn how you

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can map it with various,

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like, outputs in a in

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a control system. Yeah. I

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think that's a very good

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question. Whether we can use

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a machine learning to learn

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what is wavefront we need

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to do. Right? Yes. I

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think people have been trying

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that. If you have enough,

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you know, data, then you

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can really use this to

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find out what is a

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new wavefront to do focusing

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afterwards. But, the thing is

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that usually the biological tissue

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is moving, so you you

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need to learn this very

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fast. Mhmm. So that is

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usually the typical challenge. Right.

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So good feedback is important.

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Good feedback is important and

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a quick one. Yep. Yep.

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Okay. Great. Thanks, Wei.
