Flourishing families – Exploring the correlates, causes, and consequences of parents' well-being
October 30, 2024YCSC Grand Rounds October 29, 2024
Katherine Nelson-Coffey, PhD
Associate Professor of Psychology, Arizona State University
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- 00:00Just a couple of brief
- 00:01announcements before we get started
- 00:03today.
- 00:04I just wanted to remind
- 00:05you, next week is a
- 00:06jam packed week for Grand
- 00:07Rounds. We actually have not
- 00:08one but two Grand Rounds
- 00:10sessions
- 00:11next week. So we'll be
- 00:12hearing from Jack Turban,
- 00:14next Tuesday from one to
- 00:16two PM from UCSF. They'll
- 00:18be talking about supporting gender
- 00:19diverse youth across development.
- 00:22So that will be in
- 00:22our regularly scheduled Grand Rounds
- 00:25session. And then we'll have
- 00:27Patrick Lycan coming to us
- 00:28from the University of Leuven
- 00:29and, University College London, who
- 00:31will be talking about mentalizing
- 00:33based
- 00:34treatments for borderline personality
- 00:36disorder. And that will be
- 00:38on Wednesday afternoon at three
- 00:40PM in, three fifty George
- 00:43in room three zero five
- 00:44b. So that's room three
- 00:45zero five b in three
- 00:47fifty George. It's a lot
- 00:48of threes.
- 00:49So two special grand rounds
- 00:51next week, and I do
- 00:52hope you'll be able to
- 00:53join us in person for
- 00:54for both of those.
- 00:56And with that, I'd like
- 00:57to pass you over to
- 00:58doctor Rutherford to introduce our
- 00:59speaker for today.
- 01:04Hey. Good afternoon, everybody. I'm
- 01:07delighted and honored to introduce
- 01:08our speaker today, doctor Catherine
- 01:10Nelson Coffey. Doctor. Nelson Coffey
- 01:12is an associate professor of
- 01:13psychology at Arizona state university,
- 01:16and she also has an
- 01:17adjunct appointment here in the
- 01:18child study center.
- 01:20She was also one of
- 01:21the first Anur Gazell visiting
- 01:22scholars in parent and child
- 01:23development when she came to
- 01:25the child study center for
- 01:26her Zepatica in twenty twenty
- 01:28just before Yale and the
- 01:29rest of the world closed
- 01:30down for COVID.
- 01:31Nevertheless, it was a really
- 01:33productive visit while she was
- 01:34here, and we were excited
- 01:35that we were able to
- 01:36write a grant during that
- 01:37period, that we are now
- 01:39in recipients of. And so
- 01:40we have a two site
- 01:41study between ASU and Yale
- 01:43Charles City Center looking at
- 01:44social connectedness during the transition
- 01:46to parenthood.
- 01:47And I just wanted to
- 01:48say that I've, in addition
- 01:49to the formal introduction, I
- 01:51wanted to highlight I've learned
- 01:52so much from doctor Nelson
- 01:53Coffey, both as an academic
- 01:54and scholar as well as
- 01:55a person, and I'm very
- 01:56excited for you to all
- 01:57learn from her today. So
- 01:58please help me in welcoming
- 02:00doctor Nelson Coffey.
- 02:06Thank you so much for
- 02:07that kind introduction, and thanks
- 02:09to all of you for
- 02:10being here today. I'm really
- 02:11excited to share with you
- 02:12some of the work that
- 02:13I've been doing over the
- 02:15last several years about parents'
- 02:17well-being.
- 02:18But before I get started,
- 02:19I think it's important to
- 02:20acknowledge that just as it
- 02:22takes a village to raise
- 02:23a child, I feel that
- 02:24sometimes it takes a village
- 02:25to raise a researcher.
- 02:27I'd like to thank the
- 02:28many colleagues and collaborators
- 02:30who have contributed to the
- 02:31work that I'll be presenting
- 02:33today.
- 02:34Here I have my lab
- 02:35at ASU,
- 02:36as well as the institutions
- 02:38that have funded and supported
- 02:40some of this work.
- 02:42Raising children can be stressful.
- 02:45From
- 02:46navigating
- 02:47toddlers tantrums,
- 02:49challenging homework battles,
- 02:52and
- 02:53conflict during adolescence.
- 02:55Parents navigate a wide variety
- 02:57of stressors that change over
- 02:59the course
- 03:00of the lifespan.
- 03:02In fact, recently, the US
- 03:03Surgeon General published a report
- 03:05to call attention to parental
- 03:07stress, mental health, and well-being.
- 03:10This report included an alarming
- 03:11statistic
- 03:12indicating that forty eight percent
- 03:14of parents
- 03:15say that most days their
- 03:16stress is completely overwhelming.
- 03:19And this is important because
- 03:21parents
- 03:22and children's well-being are inherently
- 03:24intertwined.
- 03:26Parent mental illness is among
- 03:28the most common adverse childhood
- 03:29experiences,
- 03:30which we know confer significant
- 03:32risk across the lifespan.
- 03:34And parents' abilities to navigate
- 03:37this stress and bring the
- 03:38best versions of themselves to
- 03:39their interactions with their children
- 03:42has
- 03:42really important implications for child
- 03:44development.
- 03:45And so for these reasons,
- 03:47improving caregiver well-being has been
- 03:49highlighted as one of the
- 03:51most important methods
- 03:53of promoting
- 03:54child development.
- 03:56I've been investigating the correlates,
- 03:58causes, and consequences
- 03:59of parents' well-being for more
- 04:01than a decade, and today
- 04:03I'm really excited to share
- 04:04with you some of what
- 04:05we have learned from these
- 04:06studies.
- 04:08I'll be approaching this talk
- 04:10across three broad questions that
- 04:12have guided a lot of
- 04:13my research in this area.
- 04:17First, we will,
- 04:18address the question of what
- 04:19is the association
- 04:21between parenthood and well-being.
- 04:23Second,
- 04:24we'll ask why are some
- 04:26parents more or less happy
- 04:28than others.
- 04:29And third, we'll consider some
- 04:31strategies and benefits of enhancing
- 04:33parents' happiness.
- 04:36As I began
- 04:37exploring the association between parenthood
- 04:39and well-being, I started with
- 04:41this very simple question.
- 04:43Sorry. I don't know why
- 04:43that's repeating.
- 04:46And,
- 04:47but before we dig into
- 04:49that, I'd like to take
- 04:50a step back and consider
- 04:52what do I mean exactly
- 04:53when I talk about happiness
- 04:55or well-being.
- 04:56The primary outcome in the
- 04:58majority of my studies is
- 04:59subjective well-being, and this is
- 05:01a term that I use
- 05:02interchangeably
- 05:03with happiness.
- 05:04Subjective well-being includes three main
- 05:06components. The first is hot
- 05:08life satisfaction,
- 05:09which is considered the cognitive
- 05:10component of well-being or how
- 05:12a person is evaluating their
- 05:14life. Overall.
- 05:16The second is the experience
- 05:17of frequent positive emotions, such
- 05:19as
- 05:20gratitude,
- 05:20joy, or contentment.
- 05:22And third is the experience
- 05:24of infrequent negative emotions, such
- 05:26as sadness,
- 05:27frustration, or guilt.
- 05:29And so by this definition
- 05:30of subjective well-being, a happy
- 05:32person would consider their life
- 05:33to be going well overall,
- 05:36they would experience frequent positive
- 05:38emotions in their daily life
- 05:40and infrequent
- 05:41negative emotions.
- 05:43As a compliment to happiness.
- 05:45I also include other aspects
- 05:46of well-being in my research.
- 05:48For example, I often include
- 05:49measures of meaning in life,
- 05:51which also includes three components.
- 05:53There must be something about
- 05:55threes.
- 05:56And the first is a
- 05:57sense of coherence or the
- 05:59feeling that life makes sense.
- 06:01The second is a sense
- 06:01of purpose, which is related
- 06:03to having goal directed actions
- 06:05and pursuing important and meaningful
- 06:07goals.
- 06:08And the third is a
- 06:09sense of significance or the
- 06:10extent to which people believe
- 06:12that their life has value
- 06:13worth and important.
- 06:16A note about meaning in
- 06:17life is that often when
- 06:19we hear people talk about
- 06:20meaning in life colloquially,
- 06:22we hear people say things
- 06:24that specific parts of their
- 06:25life, such as their children
- 06:27or their work are their
- 06:28meaning or their purpose.
- 06:30But the approach to meaning
- 06:32in life that I and
- 06:33others use in research focuses
- 06:35more on meaning in life
- 06:36as a feeling that someone
- 06:38has
- 06:39about their life, more about
- 06:40how they feel in their
- 06:42life than about a specific
- 06:44activity or goal or,
- 06:46focus.
- 06:49I would also note that
- 06:51I look at subjective well-being
- 06:52and meaning in life as
- 06:54compliments to mental health. So
- 06:56in many of my studies,
- 06:57I also include measures of
- 06:59mental health symptoms, such as
- 07:01depressive symptoms or anxiety symptoms.
- 07:03And I think of this
- 07:04as providing a holistic perspective
- 07:07of mental health and well-being
- 07:09indicating that to be truly
- 07:11well, we are not simply
- 07:13absent of mental illness, but
- 07:14we are also experiencing these
- 07:16positive indicators of well-being.
- 07:20So in trying to understand
- 07:22parents' well-being,
- 07:23I started with a very
- 07:24simple question. What is the
- 07:26association
- 07:27between parenthood and well-being?
- 07:30And as I began
- 07:31digging into this literature,
- 07:33trying to find what existing
- 07:35studies
- 07:36indicated in this area,
- 07:38I came across what I've
- 07:40come to term the parenthood
- 07:42paradox.
- 07:43And
- 07:44this is based on prior
- 07:46literature demonstrating
- 07:47that relative to people without
- 07:49children, parents reported
- 07:51more depression,
- 07:53less positive affect and more
- 07:55negative affect
- 07:56and lower relationship satisfaction.
- 07:59Yet at the same time,
- 08:00they also reported
- 08:02more meaning, gratification and reward
- 08:05as well as greater happiness.
- 08:07And after looking at this
- 08:09literature, I became really intrigued
- 08:10by these findings and wondered
- 08:12to myself, how could it
- 08:13be that parents are reporting
- 08:16both more depression
- 08:18and more happiness?
- 08:21And it became really difficult
- 08:22to compare
- 08:23across studies
- 08:25and reach a bottom line
- 08:26because every study seemed to
- 08:28use its own methodological
- 08:30approach, its own unique sample,
- 08:31different statistical methods, different covariates
- 08:35of like wide variety of
- 08:36differences
- 08:37across
- 08:38these studies, making it difficult
- 08:40to understand
- 08:41what's what and who's who.
- 08:43And so like any good
- 08:45researcher, I decided to conduct
- 08:47some studies of my own.
- 08:49And so we started with,
- 08:51some simple questions. Okay. But
- 08:54using multiple methodologies
- 08:56seeking to address,
- 08:57how parents compare to non
- 08:59parents in global well-being,
- 09:01how they compare to non
- 09:02parents in their experience of
- 09:03daily emotions
- 09:05and,
- 09:06how they feel specifically when
- 09:08they're spending time with their
- 09:09children.
- 09:10In addition,
- 09:12so for this first study,
- 09:14we were looking at parents'
- 09:15happiness levels in general, and
- 09:17we drew from the world
- 09:19value survey, which includes nearly
- 09:21seven thousand respondents. This is
- 09:22a, nationally representative sample,
- 09:25of individuals in the United
- 09:27States.
- 09:28In addition to being asked
- 09:29many demographic and lifestyle questions,
- 09:32relevant to my research questions
- 09:34that participants in this,
- 09:36respondents to this survey were
- 09:37also asked how happy they
- 09:39felt,
- 09:40how satisfied they felt with
- 09:41their life and how frequently
- 09:43they thought about the meaning
- 09:44and purpose of life.
- 09:47So we started with a
- 09:48very simple question, which is
- 09:50overall, how do parents compare
- 09:52to non parents on these
- 09:53indicators of well-being?
- 09:55And what we found was
- 09:56that parents reported greater life
- 09:58satisfaction,
- 09:59greater happiness,
- 10:01and more frequent thoughts about
- 10:02meaning in life.
- 10:04Of course, this is just
- 10:05a snapshot of parents' well-being,
- 10:08at a single time point
- 10:09cross sectionally,
- 10:11the items that were used
- 10:13to assess well-being,
- 10:15were also single items and
- 10:17not necessarily the most validated
- 10:19and supported in the literature.
- 10:21We also considered that parents
- 10:23could be biased in their
- 10:24responses.
- 10:25They could respond be responding
- 10:27based on how they think
- 10:28they're supposed to feel,
- 10:30rather than how they actually
- 10:31felt,
- 10:33and where it may not
- 10:34necessarily feel quite so happy
- 10:36as they're living their daily
- 10:37life.
- 10:38So in this second study,
- 10:40we wanted to better capture
- 10:42parents' experiences
- 10:44as they were living their
- 10:45daily life.
- 10:47We again use a nationally
- 10:48representative sample of adults, ages
- 10:50eighteen to ninety four, and
- 10:52to replicate the findings from
- 10:54that first study
- 10:55w participants completed validated measures
- 10:58of global well-being,
- 11:00specifically the subjective happiness scale
- 11:02and,
- 11:03the center for epidemiological
- 11:05studies, depression inventory.
- 11:08Then they participated
- 11:11in a seven day experience
- 11:13sampling paradigm for this study
- 11:15as well. Each day at
- 11:17five random times throughout the
- 11:18day, they were contacted and
- 11:20asked to fill out questionnaires,
- 11:22asking them who they were
- 11:23with, what they were doing,
- 11:25their positive emotions
- 11:26at that particular moment, as
- 11:28well as how much meaning
- 11:29they felt at the present
- 11:30moment.
- 11:32Unfortunately, given the sample, we
- 11:33didn't actually capture enough moments
- 11:36when people were spending time
- 11:37with their children
- 11:39to, tease apart the effects
- 11:41of time with children versus
- 11:42other activities.
- 11:44But instead we considered, you
- 11:46know, how are parents feeling
- 11:48in their daily life throughout
- 11:49the day compared to people
- 11:51without children.
- 11:53And what we found was
- 11:55that,
- 11:56again, turning to those global
- 11:58indicators of well-being, parents reported
- 12:00greater happiness
- 12:02as well as lower rates
- 12:03of depression
- 12:04compared to people without children.
- 12:08Turning next to the indicators
- 12:10of,
- 12:11emotions in daily life.
- 12:13We also found that parents
- 12:15reported more positive emotions in
- 12:17daily life and a greater
- 12:19sense of meaning in daily
- 12:20life.
- 12:21So here we're starting to
- 12:23replicate those initial findings and
- 12:25get more of a sense
- 12:25that parents are, relatively happy
- 12:28compared to people without children.
- 12:30However, it still could be
- 12:31the case that parents are
- 12:33reporting their happiness
- 12:35when they are doing everything
- 12:36else, but taking care of
- 12:38their children.
- 12:39And that could be biasing
- 12:41these overall reports of happiness.
- 12:44And we, you know, hypothesize
- 12:45that if, you know, being
- 12:47a parent is truly associated
- 12:49with increases in positive emotions,
- 12:51then parents ought to feel
- 12:53those positive emotions when they
- 12:55are spending time with their
- 12:56children.
- 12:58And so in our third
- 13:00study, we sought to address
- 13:01that question of understanding
- 13:03how how happy parents feel,
- 13:05when they're specifically spending time
- 13:07with their children. We recruited
- 13:09one hundred and eighty six
- 13:10parents for this study,
- 13:12and asked them to complete
- 13:14a day reconstruction method,
- 13:16which asks participants to reconstruct
- 13:19the entire day from start
- 13:20to finish episode by episode.
- 13:23For each episode, they then
- 13:25reported,
- 13:26their positive emotions,
- 13:28across several items,
- 13:30as well as how much
- 13:32meaning in life they felt
- 13:33for each specific episode.
- 13:35So to give you a
- 13:36better sense of
- 13:38what this looks like in
- 13:39terms of this day reconstruction
- 13:41method, I pulled some data
- 13:42from one of the participants
- 13:44in this study.
- 13:45And so here you can
- 13:47see that they've kind of
- 13:48this part of this specific
- 13:49participant has broken apart,
- 13:51their day episode by episode.
- 13:53So each line in this
- 13:54table represents a separate episode
- 13:57of the day. They noted
- 13:58what time it began and
- 14:00when it ended. So we
- 14:01have some information about how
- 14:02long it lasted.
- 14:03They made some initial notes
- 14:05to themselves about how they
- 14:06felt, and then they responded
- 14:08to those validated measures of
- 14:10positive emotions and meaning in
- 14:11life. So you can see
- 14:12that this person got up
- 14:14and got their kids ready
- 14:15for school.
- 14:16Then they dropped them off,
- 14:17played with some puppies, which
- 14:19just sounds delightful,
- 14:21drove to work. And then
- 14:23later on picked up their
- 14:24kids from the babysitter and
- 14:25played with them. And then
- 14:26ultimately,
- 14:28put their kids to bed.
- 14:30Notably, what you might see,
- 14:32here is that some of
- 14:34these experiences that this participant
- 14:36had,
- 14:37involved spending time with their
- 14:39children,
- 14:40which we term childcare,
- 14:43and other
- 14:44things did not, which we
- 14:47describe as, you know, just
- 14:48the other stuff that they
- 14:49did during the day.
- 14:50So this approach allowed us
- 14:52to look within parents' experiences
- 14:55and kind of break apart
- 14:56their day
- 14:57based on when they're spending
- 14:58time with their children versus
- 15:00the other stuff that they
- 15:01do throughout the day.
- 15:04And make a comparison
- 15:05of the emotions and sense
- 15:07of meaning that people feel,
- 15:09based on these different categories.
- 15:12So for our analysis, focus
- 15:14on comparing
- 15:15time with children versus the
- 15:17rest of the day. And
- 15:18again, what we found is
- 15:19that parents reported
- 15:21more positive affect when they
- 15:23were spending time with their
- 15:24kids,
- 15:24as well as greater sense
- 15:26of meaning,
- 15:27compared to the rest of
- 15:30their own day.
- 15:33So across these three studies,
- 15:35we have some confidence that
- 15:37parents are in fact happy.
- 15:40This holds true when we
- 15:41look at global well-being, daily
- 15:43well-being, and specifically when people
- 15:45are spending time with their
- 15:46children.
- 15:47Now you might notice that
- 15:49these, the, this, these studies
- 15:51were published over a decade
- 15:52ago and you might think
- 15:53to yourself, well, things have
- 15:54changed,
- 15:56in the last ten years
- 15:57and they certainly have.
- 15:59And I'm delighted
- 16:01that the, these findings have
- 16:03been replicated by others.
- 16:06Most notably parents reported,
- 16:08greater happiness than people without
- 16:10without children in another kind
- 16:12of general sample.
- 16:13This held true even during
- 16:15the pandemic,
- 16:16which as a parent myself,
- 16:17I found a bit surprising.
- 16:19I'm not gonna lie.
- 16:21It was also true among
- 16:23older adults over the age
- 16:25of sixty.
- 16:26We've also replicated
- 16:28the finding that parents report
- 16:30greater positive emotions when they're
- 16:31interacting with their children compared
- 16:33to the rest of their
- 16:34days. These findings have been
- 16:35replicated by,
- 16:37myself in my lab, as
- 16:38well as other external folks
- 16:40that I haven't been involved
- 16:41with. So I feel fairly
- 16:44confident in these findings
- 16:46that parents
- 16:47are reporting, you know, some
- 16:49level of happiness,
- 16:51but often when I get
- 16:52asked about this literature and
- 16:54you know, what is the
- 16:55take home message? I often
- 16:57say, you know, what I
- 16:58take away from this is
- 16:59that most parents are happy,
- 17:01but you might have noticed
- 17:02that those differences were relatively
- 17:05small.
- 17:06In fact, if we go
- 17:07back to that first
- 17:09study from the world values
- 17:10survey
- 17:11and plot the s the
- 17:13mean scores for parents and
- 17:15non parents around a normal
- 17:16distribution.
- 17:17Parents reported it was about
- 17:19seven point seven five on
- 17:20the life satisfaction
- 17:21item. This is what that
- 17:23distribution of scores
- 17:24would look like,
- 17:26compared to non parents who
- 17:28reported
- 17:29slightly under seven point five.
- 17:31You can see that these
- 17:33distributions
- 17:34are largely
- 17:35overlapping.
- 17:36And this is kind of
- 17:37just a word of caution
- 17:40to avoid
- 17:41over interpreting
- 17:42findings like this.
- 17:44I'm not trying to suggest
- 17:46that people should have children
- 17:48to make them happy or
- 17:50things like that. This is
- 17:51not necessarily a causal statement.
- 17:54And there are lots of
- 17:55ways to be happy
- 17:57without having children.
- 17:59But the, the, this distribution
- 18:01also highlights to me the
- 18:03variety of experiences
- 18:04across parents.
- 18:06And it made me start
- 18:08to wonder what leads some
- 18:10parents to be,
- 18:12much happier
- 18:14and other parents to be
- 18:15less happy
- 18:17and
- 18:18whether that might provide opportunities
- 18:20for intervention and support for
- 18:22parents.
- 18:23And so more recently, my
- 18:25research program has been focused
- 18:27on addressing these questions of
- 18:29understanding the variety of experiences
- 18:31among parents
- 18:33rather than comparisons
- 18:35to people without children.
- 18:38And so that brings me
- 18:39to my second question,
- 18:40which is why are some
- 18:41parents happier or less happy
- 18:43than others?
- 18:45To better understand when, why,
- 18:47and how parenthood could be
- 18:48associated
- 18:49with both greater and lower
- 18:51levels of well-being,
- 18:53I conducted a comprehensive review
- 18:54of this literature, including more
- 18:56than a hundred studies from
- 18:58psychology, sociology,
- 18:59and behavior economics.
- 19:01And one answer to this
- 19:02question,
- 19:03why are some parents happier
- 19:05than others?
- 19:06Could be due to a
- 19:08variety of demographic and psychological
- 19:11factors that moderate the association.
- 19:14So perhaps, you know, some
- 19:16parents are happier than others
- 19:17because they have greater levels
- 19:19of social support and having
- 19:20more social support is associated
- 19:22with greater happiness
- 19:23among parents and less social
- 19:25support is associated with lower
- 19:26levels of happiness
- 19:28or, you know,
- 19:29parents' employment status, a variety
- 19:31of factors.
- 19:33I also consider
- 19:35the psychological
- 19:36processes
- 19:37that could explain these different
- 19:39trajectories as well. And the
- 19:41top path of this model,
- 19:42I propose why parenthood might
- 19:44be associated with greater well-being
- 19:46specifically
- 19:47when parents experience.
- 19:50Greater
- 19:51purpose and meaning in life,
- 19:53fulfillment of their social roles,
- 19:55satisfaction of their psychological
- 19:57needs for autonomy, competence, and
- 20:00connectedness and greater positive emotions,
- 20:02then those will all support
- 20:04greater levels of well-being among
- 20:06parents.
- 20:07But sometimes raising children is
- 20:09not always sunshine
- 20:11and rainbows.
- 20:12And I propose that when
- 20:14parents experience greater negative emotions
- 20:16and stress,
- 20:18when they experience financial strain,
- 20:20sleep disturbance, and fatigue and
- 20:22difficulty in their romantic relationships,
- 20:25then they would experience lower
- 20:26levels of well-being.
- 20:29I use this model as
- 20:30a conceptual guide to my
- 20:32research program,
- 20:33and I have also,
- 20:35tested pieces of it empirically.
- 20:38I'm not going to present
- 20:39a full test of this
- 20:40model today. Don't worry.
- 20:42But instead I'm going to
- 20:44be presenting some studies highlighting
- 20:45the work that I've done,
- 20:47using this model as a
- 20:48guide.
- 20:50And I'd like to start
- 20:51by,
- 20:52considering the role that parent
- 20:54gender might play in understanding
- 20:57their well-being.
- 20:58Due to social and gender
- 21:00norms,
- 21:02moms and dads have very
- 21:03different experiences
- 21:05in parenting, which may have
- 21:07important implications
- 21:08for their overall well-being.
- 21:11And so I wanted to
- 21:12understand this better.
- 21:15And so I conducted
- 21:17a couple of studies to
- 21:18understand gender differences and parents'
- 21:20well-being.
- 21:21I turned first to the
- 21:22National Survey of Families and
- 21:24Households,
- 21:25which includes more than thirteen
- 21:26thousand
- 21:27respondents from the United States.
- 21:30And they reported their happiness
- 21:32on a single item,
- 21:35about, you know, how happy
- 21:36they would say they are
- 21:37these days, as well as
- 21:38completing the
- 21:40CESD
- 21:41again.
- 21:43And here I was interested
- 21:45in whether gender moderated the
- 21:47association
- 21:48between
- 21:48parenthood and well-being.
- 21:51And what we find is
- 21:52that turning first to parents'
- 21:54reports of happiness
- 21:56is that fathers report greater
- 21:58happiness than men without children.
- 22:02Whereas mothers were actually reported
- 22:04lower levels of happiness
- 22:06compared to women without children.
- 22:09The difference between fathers and
- 22:11mothers in this study was
- 22:12also statistically significant with fathers
- 22:15reporting greater happiness
- 22:16than mothers.
- 22:19Turning next to,
- 22:21depressive symptoms. We again found
- 22:23that fathers reported fewer depressive
- 22:26symptoms than men without children
- 22:27and compared to mothers,
- 22:29whereas there was no difference
- 22:31in depressive symptoms between mothers
- 22:33and women without children.
- 22:35So in this study, what
- 22:36we see is that
- 22:38dads tend to be benefiting
- 22:40more in terms of well-being
- 22:42-being
- 22:43from, fatherhood than moms are
- 22:44from motherhood. We wanted to
- 22:44follow this up again to
- 22:46get a better
- 22:48sense of how people are
- 22:49experiencing parenting in their daily
- 22:50life.
- 22:57We collaborated
- 22:58with the team who developed
- 23:00the track your happiness app,
- 23:03which prompts people
- 23:05throughout the day to reflect
- 23:06on their happiness levels as
- 23:08well as a variety of
- 23:09different experiences.
- 23:11Specifically,
- 23:12participants were contacted three times
- 23:14per day
- 23:15and,
- 23:15during waking hours and asked,
- 23:18how they felt at the
- 23:20current moment,
- 23:21ranging from very bad to
- 23:24very good,
- 23:25as our indicator of happiness.
- 23:29They were then prompted,
- 23:31with a variety of questions
- 23:32about what they were currently
- 23:33doing.
- 23:34And you can see there's
- 23:36a long list here of
- 23:38options that they could choose
- 23:40from, but included
- 23:41here were options
- 23:43such as taking care of
- 23:44your children,
- 23:45as well as talking or
- 23:47having conversation with someone.
- 23:50If people said, yes, I
- 23:51am talking or having conversation
- 23:52with someone, they were asked
- 23:54a follow-up question about who
- 23:56are you talking to? So
- 23:57they could indicate, oh, I'm
- 23:58talking to a friend, a
- 23:59partner,
- 24:01important for our research question,
- 24:02our children. Yeah. Question.
- 24:05Were the activities mutually exclusive,
- 24:06so they say they were
- 24:08both preparing
- 24:09for the children?
- 24:11Yes. The second one. They
- 24:12are not mutually exclusive. People
- 24:14can be do doing multiple
- 24:15things at once, which is
- 24:17a great question.
- 24:20And so we were interested
- 24:23in, again, understanding gender differences,
- 24:26and people's experiences
- 24:28caring for their children,
- 24:30or interacting with their children.
- 24:33So on the left hand
- 24:34side of the screen, these
- 24:35are the results for childcare.
- 24:36So this is when people
- 24:37said, yes, I'm taking care
- 24:39of my child compared to,
- 24:42you know, other, the other
- 24:43things that they did in
- 24:44their daily life. And what
- 24:45we found is that for
- 24:47women,
- 24:49mothers reported lower levels of
- 24:51happiness when they were engaged
- 24:52in childcare,
- 24:54compared to their other daily
- 24:57activities.
- 24:58Whereas for men, they reported
- 25:00higher levels of happiness when
- 25:02they were engaged in childcare,
- 25:05compared to their own other
- 25:06daily activities.
- 25:08Turning next to,
- 25:11interactions,
- 25:12we find that
- 25:14mothers reported higher lows levels
- 25:16of happiness when they were
- 25:17interacting
- 25:18with their children.
- 25:20But when we look at
- 25:21fathers, they were even happier
- 25:24when they were interacting,
- 25:26with their children compared to
- 25:28their other daily activities. So
- 25:29this was a significant moderation
- 25:31effect by order of magnitude.
- 25:34And so I think that
- 25:34this question that was raised,
- 25:36which is, you know, what
- 25:37other activities might people be
- 25:39doing,
- 25:40and could that play a
- 25:41role?
- 25:42And we did some I
- 25:44don't have a slide on
- 25:45this, but we did do
- 25:46some follow-up analysis to see,
- 25:48you know, are there gender
- 25:49differences
- 25:50in the secondary
- 25:51activities people, mothers and fathers
- 25:53are doing when they're engaged
- 25:55in childcare?
- 25:56And what we
- 25:57see is that fathers are
- 25:59much more likely to indicate
- 26:01that they are also engaged
- 26:02in play and leisure,
- 26:04when they are taking both
- 26:07taking care of their children
- 26:07and interacting with them, which
- 26:07would support that increase in
- 26:08positive emotions.
- 26:22So it's kind of up
- 26:23to the participant. So we
- 26:24didn't prompt them to tell
- 26:26us more about what are
- 26:27the other activities, but it
- 26:28could be, like I guess,
- 26:30what is considered child care
- 26:32versus just interacting?
- 26:34Yeah. So an example might
- 26:36be like, and this is
- 26:38defined by participants themselves. Right.
- 26:40And so it's all kind
- 26:41of self defined. Are you
- 26:43engaged in childcare versus interacting?
- 26:45But,
- 26:46and participants
- 26:47could say both. Right? I'm
- 26:48taking care of my children
- 26:50and I'm interacting with them.
- 26:52But example might be, like,
- 26:54I am,
- 26:56driving my child to soccer
- 26:58practice.
- 26:59Maybe you consider that,
- 27:01childcare or I'm changing a
- 27:03diaper
- 27:04or giving a bath or
- 27:06feeding a snack. Right? These
- 27:08are all things that
- 27:09I personally would consider childcare.
- 27:12But if I'm also,
- 27:15reading a story,
- 27:16to my child or having
- 27:18a conversation with them
- 27:20or,
- 27:21you know, telling them a
- 27:23story or,
- 27:25my son has been into
- 27:26jokes a lot lately. He's
- 27:27been telling me a lot
- 27:28of jokes. So they're the,
- 27:29that kind of like talking
- 27:31interaction,
- 27:32I think would be the
- 27:33key. And so you might
- 27:34be, so you,
- 27:36depending on the age of
- 27:37the child, you might be
- 27:38able to care for your
- 27:39child in certain ways without
- 27:41really engaging or talking with
- 27:43them.
- 27:44Right. And so that would
- 27:45be kind of that distinction.
- 27:51So together, these,
- 27:53those initial studies on gender
- 27:55provide evidence that fatherhood seems
- 27:57to be more consistently associated
- 27:59with greater well-being,
- 28:01than motherhood does.
- 28:04And in particularly, we saw
- 28:06that fathers demonstrated greater well-being
- 28:08overall than men without children,
- 28:10and they also reported greater
- 28:11positive emotions while they were
- 28:13engaged in childcare
- 28:14and interacting with their children.
- 28:17On the other hand, mothers
- 28:19were reporting lower happiness levels,
- 28:20greater depressive symptoms, and less
- 28:22happy when they were engaged
- 28:24in childcare.
- 28:26And this evidence is consistent
- 28:28with other accounts
- 28:30indicating that moms are often
- 28:32responsible for a lot of
- 28:34the chore like tasks of
- 28:36parenthood.
- 28:37They tend to be,
- 28:39you know, more responsible
- 28:41for preparing meals, potty training,
- 28:43changing diapers, transportation,
- 28:46and also carry a much
- 28:48heavier mental load associated
- 28:50with parenthood. And I think
- 28:52these are
- 28:53potential contributing factors.
- 28:56On the other hand, we
- 28:57did see that fathers were
- 28:59more likely to be engaged
- 29:00in play with their children,
- 29:02which may lead them to
- 29:03feel more positive emotions,
- 29:05when they're engaged in parenting.
- 29:08In,
- 29:09this also points to the
- 29:11potential role of positive emotions
- 29:13as a valuable mechanism,
- 29:16to support parents' well-being.
- 29:18In other studies, I've also
- 29:20found that parents age,
- 29:22their marital status,
- 29:24and their attachment style also
- 29:26moderate the association
- 29:27between parenthood and well-being.
- 29:30And together, the this demonstrates,
- 29:33I think, one way of
- 29:34understanding the dynamics of parenthood.
- 29:37I propose that each of
- 29:38these moderating factors
- 29:40Can be understood via the
- 29:42different mechanisms in the top
- 29:44path of this model
- 29:46So the evidence from these
- 29:47studies points to positive emotions
- 29:49as a at least partially
- 29:52explaining
- 29:53the gender divide in parents'
- 29:55well-being.
- 29:56And better understanding these psychological
- 29:59processes
- 30:00also provides a foundation
- 30:02for developing interventions to promote
- 30:05parents' well-being.
- 30:07And of course, this brings
- 30:08me to,
- 30:09my third question of the
- 30:10day, which is what are
- 30:11the strategies and potential benefits
- 30:14of enhancing parents' happiness?
- 30:19To answer this question, I
- 30:20have been implementing
- 30:22positive activity interventions
- 30:24among parents.
- 30:26A large literature has emerged
- 30:27investigating
- 30:28whether and how it might
- 30:30be possible for people to
- 30:31become happier with intentional effort.
- 30:34These studies typically involve assigning
- 30:36people to practice
- 30:38a positive activity intervention.
- 30:40Then these involve simple and
- 30:42intentional practices
- 30:44that are meant to mimic
- 30:45the thoughts and behaviors of
- 30:46naturally happy people.
- 30:48For example, in my own
- 30:50work using longitudinal
- 30:51experimental designs, I have discovered
- 30:54that being kind to other
- 30:55people,
- 30:56expressing gratitude,
- 30:58and affirming one's sense of
- 30:59belonging and social groups all
- 31:02lead to increases in happiness
- 31:04and well-being over time.
- 31:06And this work provides
- 31:08a rigorous
- 31:09approach
- 31:10to investigate the causes of
- 31:11parents' happiness
- 31:13and to provide recommendations
- 31:15for parents seeking to improve
- 31:17their own happiness and well-being.
- 31:21In addition, although most prior
- 31:23work on positive activity interventions
- 31:25focuses specifically
- 31:27on individual well-being,
- 31:29I'm also interested in using
- 31:32these
- 31:33strategies as a tool,
- 31:35not only to promote parents'
- 31:37happiness,
- 31:38but to better understand
- 31:40how parents' happiness
- 31:41can also contribute to improving
- 31:44the lives of the entire
- 31:47family, especially given that we
- 31:48know that caregiver and child
- 31:50well-being
- 31:51are closely related to one
- 31:53another.
- 31:55So today I wanna spend
- 31:56some time talking about gratitude
- 31:58in particular.
- 31:59Prior research demonstrates that gratitude
- 32:02is associated
- 32:03with
- 32:04a wide variety of emotional
- 32:05and relational benefits.
- 32:07So I thought that this
- 32:09could be a valuable tool
- 32:11for improving parents' well-being and
- 32:13family functioning.
- 32:15Specifically,
- 32:16prior work on the benefits
- 32:17of gratitude has suggested
- 32:19that it's beneficial across contexts.
- 32:21It leads to greater happiness,
- 32:25improved health,
- 32:26more pro social behavior
- 32:28or kindness to other people,
- 32:30greater patience,
- 32:32which I think is especially
- 32:33key for parents,
- 32:35and is particularly beneficial in
- 32:37the context of relationships.
- 32:39Although most of the prior
- 32:40work on the benefits of
- 32:41gratitude and relationships has focused
- 32:43on romantic relationships or friendships
- 32:45and fewer studies had considered,
- 32:48gratitude and parent child relationships.
- 32:52So based on that prior
- 32:53evidence, I thought that gratitude
- 32:55would be a great resource
- 32:56and potential pathway for improving
- 32:59parents' well-being
- 33:00and supporting families.
- 33:02And to,
- 33:04since very few studies that
- 33:06explored gratitude in a family
- 33:08context, I started
- 33:10with a more observational
- 33:11approach,
- 33:13using a daily diary methodology.
- 33:16And so we evaluated whether
- 33:17gratitude was associated with well-being
- 33:20and family functioning in daily
- 33:21life.
- 33:22In this seven day paradigm,
- 33:25we recruited two seventy participants
- 33:28for this study
- 33:29and every day for seven
- 33:30days, they responded to the
- 33:32prompt, People give care to
- 33:34their children in both good
- 33:35and bad times. Sometimes giving
- 33:37this care is easy and
- 33:38enjoyable, whereas other times it
- 33:40can be difficult and frustrating.
- 33:42Please describe a time today,
- 33:43be it easy or difficult,
- 33:45when you gave care to
- 33:45your child.
- 33:47Please describe what your child
- 33:48was going through and what
- 33:49you did.
- 33:50And so we had this
- 33:51really rich dataset with all
- 33:53of these daily experiences,
- 33:56that parents had caring for
- 33:58their children.
- 33:59And we wanted to capture,
- 34:02the whole spectrum.
- 34:03With this prompt, we were
- 34:04not only interested in
- 34:07the pleasant moments with children,
- 34:09but we wanted this more
- 34:11realistic
- 34:12perspective
- 34:13of parents' experiences.
- 34:16After responding to this prompt,
- 34:17participants
- 34:18reported a variety of daily
- 34:21well-being outcomes, including positive and
- 34:23negative emotions,
- 34:25which importantly included a single
- 34:26item measuring gratitude, feelings of
- 34:29gratitude.
- 34:30They reported their, the satisfaction
- 34:32of their psychological needs for
- 34:33autonomy, competence, and connectedness,
- 34:36as well as their, how
- 34:38satisfied they felt with their
- 34:39life that day and how
- 34:41much meaning they felt with
- 34:42their life that day.
- 34:44In addition, parents reported how
- 34:46close they felt to their
- 34:47child on a daily basis
- 34:49on a scale ranging from
- 34:51one to seven.
- 34:53And,
- 34:53I had a wonderful
- 34:55team
- 34:56of students go through and
- 34:57read and code all twelve
- 34:59hundred
- 35:00of these diary responses,
- 35:03and coded them for
- 35:05the amount of conflict that
- 35:07was present in these interactions,
- 35:09as well as the level
- 35:10of warmth and support that
- 35:11parents were providing for their
- 35:13children.
- 35:15Finally,
- 35:16we, while we were interested
- 35:17in understanding the association
- 35:19between daily feelings of gratitude
- 35:22and well-being outcomes
- 35:24at the daily level, we
- 35:26wanted to make sure that
- 35:27this was
- 35:28unique to gratitude.
- 35:30And so we included a
- 35:31variety of covariates
- 35:32in these analyses,
- 35:34to make sure that these
- 35:36patterns weren't reflective
- 35:38of parent age or how,
- 35:40how, many children they had
- 35:42a variety of demographic factors.
- 35:44And we also wanted to
- 35:46distinguish,
- 35:47felt gratitude on a daily
- 35:49basis from the experience of
- 35:50other positive emotions, such as
- 35:52happiness, which was also included
- 35:54as a covariate.
- 35:57All right. So like I
- 35:58said,
- 35:59we were interested in gratitude
- 36:01at the daily level. And
- 36:03so we conducted multilevel modeling
- 36:05analysis,
- 36:06which allowed us to piece
- 36:07apart,
- 36:08within person variability
- 36:10and gratitude. So how much
- 36:12does one parent fluctuate in
- 36:14their feelings of gratitude from
- 36:15one day to the next
- 36:17from
- 36:18excuse me, between person variability?
- 36:21Or how much gratitude does
- 36:22a person feel over the
- 36:24course of the whole week,
- 36:25and how does that compare
- 36:26to,
- 36:27other people?
- 36:42Level?
- 36:43Is that related to other
- 36:45indicators of well-being at the
- 36:46daily level and family functioning?
- 36:50And what you see is
- 36:51that that daily gratitude was
- 36:52associated with greater positive emotions,
- 36:55fewer negative emotions, more autonomy,
- 36:57competence, connectedness,
- 36:59meaning, and,
- 37:01daily satisfaction.
- 37:03And these findings were quite
- 37:04robust even as we,
- 37:07included all of those covariates
- 37:09in our model.
- 37:12So in general, what this
- 37:14tells us is that on
- 37:15days that parents felt more
- 37:16grateful than they usually did,
- 37:18they also
- 37:19reported higher levels of well-being
- 37:22across a variety of outcomes.
- 37:24Turning next to our family
- 37:27functioning outcomes.
- 37:29We again saw that on
- 37:30days that parents reported higher
- 37:32levels of gratitude, they also
- 37:33felt closer to their child,
- 37:35provided more warmth and support
- 37:37for their child,
- 37:38and demonstrated
- 37:40lower levels of conflict in
- 37:41those interactions.
- 37:44And this was,
- 37:45robust after the inclusion of
- 37:48covariates.
- 37:50So what we see here
- 37:51is that feeling grateful on
- 37:53a daily basis,
- 37:55throughout people's, you know, real
- 37:57experiences taking care of their
- 37:58children is associated with a
- 38:00variety of well-being and family
- 38:02functioning outcomes.
- 38:04But you might be looking
- 38:04at this and think to
- 38:06yourself, well, maybe they feel
- 38:08more grateful because they felt
- 38:10close to their child rather
- 38:12than gratitude
- 38:13leading them to feel close
- 38:15to their children, right. Is
- 38:17certainly plausible that these,
- 38:20associations
- 38:21are bidirectional.
- 38:22And so we wanted to
- 38:23understand
- 38:24whether gratitude might be causing
- 38:26some of these benefits for
- 38:28parents' well-being and family functioning.
- 38:31And so we implemented,
- 38:34an experimental
- 38:35design to better understand the
- 38:38causal role of gratitude for
- 38:40family well-being.
- 38:41We recruited six hundred and
- 38:43nineteen parents to participate in
- 38:45this study,
- 38:47and we randomly assigned per
- 38:49these parents to one of
- 38:51three conditions.
- 38:53Our first condition
- 38:54is a new gratitude activity
- 38:57that we developed called safe
- 38:58haven gratitude,
- 38:59which instructs people to write
- 39:01a gratitude letter to someone
- 39:02who made them feel cherished,
- 39:04protected,
- 39:05or accepted.
- 39:06And this is drawn from
- 39:08attachment theory, as well as
- 39:10Sarah Aljo's find remind and
- 39:11bind theory
- 39:12of gratitude, which argues that
- 39:14gratitude is meant to help
- 39:16draw our attention to high
- 39:17quality
- 39:18relationship partners.
- 39:20Our second condition was a
- 39:21general gratitude activity in which
- 39:24participants were instructed to write
- 39:25a letter to someone who
- 39:26was kind to them.
- 39:28And our third activity was
- 39:29a neutral control in which
- 39:31they wrote about the events
- 39:32of the previous day.
- 39:34For this study, participants were
- 39:35first randomly assigned to their
- 39:37activity and wrote these letters
- 39:39or wrote about their prior
- 39:41experiences.
- 39:42Immediately after they completed this
- 39:44activity,
- 39:46they reported their positive,
- 39:49empathic and negative emotions,
- 39:51their psychological needs satisfaction,
- 39:54which includes autonomy, competence, and
- 39:56connectedness,
- 39:56their sense of meaning in
- 39:57life and how close they
- 39:58felt to their children.
- 40:00Then they we followed up
- 40:02with them five days later,
- 40:04and ask them again about
- 40:05their positive and negative emotions,
- 40:07their psychological needs satisfaction, meaning
- 40:10in life, and subjective happiness.
- 40:12We ask them how close
- 40:13they felt to their child
- 40:14again five days later.
- 40:17And,
- 40:18we also ask them about
- 40:20a variety of family functioning
- 40:22outcomes, including parenting satisfaction,
- 40:25parental over control,
- 40:26positive child behavior, which includes
- 40:29the parents' perceptions,
- 40:30their perceptions
- 40:32of their child's negative behavior
- 40:34and their perceptions of their
- 40:35child's maladjustment.
- 40:38Given,
- 40:39that this is one gratitude
- 40:40letter that takes five to
- 40:42ten minutes to write, I
- 40:43didn't necessarily
- 40:44expect
- 40:45that
- 40:46writing
- 40:47this letter one time would
- 40:49change people's lives for the
- 40:50rest of time or even
- 40:52five days later. But instead,
- 40:54what I was interested in
- 40:55was whether any immediate benefit
- 40:57of writing these gratitude letters
- 41:00would translate into benefits
- 41:02over the course of the
- 41:03week.
- 41:04And so we first evaluated
- 41:07these immediate benefits of the
- 41:08gratitude letter, and then we
- 41:10conducted analyses looking at whether
- 41:12those benefits,
- 41:13were correlated with,
- 41:16the well-being, relationship quality, and
- 41:18family functioning outcomes five days
- 41:20later. So turning first to
- 41:21the immediate outcomes,
- 41:23we found that both gratitude
- 41:25activities
- 41:26elicited greater positive emotions,
- 41:29greater empathic emotions, which includes
- 41:31things like feeling compassionate, sympathetic,
- 41:34caring.
- 41:36Importantly, it also elicited greater
- 41:38gratitude as a manipulation
- 41:40check,
- 41:41and interestingly
- 41:42lower levels of competence.
- 41:46And turning next
- 41:48to our,
- 41:50mediation
- 41:51analysis. So,
- 41:52here we found that the
- 41:54experience of positive emotions in
- 41:56particular
- 41:57was especially beneficial,
- 41:59for parents over the course
- 42:00of the week.
- 42:02The this is just, you
- 42:03know, showing you what I
- 42:05showed before, but the gratitude
- 42:06letter activities led to increases
- 42:09in positive emotions,
- 42:10which in turn predicted parents'
- 42:12well-being five days
- 42:14later, including greater positive emotions,
- 42:16empathic emotions,
- 42:17fewer negative emotions,
- 42:19greater subjective happiness, greater meaning,
- 42:22and,
- 42:23greater psychological needs satisfaction.
- 42:27And turning next to those
- 42:29family functioning outcomes, the increases
- 42:31in positive emotions immediately following
- 42:34the gratitude activity
- 42:36led to greater,
- 42:37sense of closeness, parenting satisfaction,
- 42:40more positive perceptions of their
- 42:42child's behavior,
- 42:43fewer negative perceptions of their
- 42:45child's behavior,
- 42:46and lower parent reports of
- 42:48child maladjustment.
- 42:50One thing that I would
- 42:51like to point out here
- 42:52is that this gratitude letter
- 42:54activity did not ask people
- 42:55to
- 42:56think about their child,
- 42:58focus on their child,
- 43:01think about how grateful they
- 43:02are for their child. It
- 43:03had nothing to do with
- 43:04their child at all.
- 43:07And
- 43:08still we see that the
- 43:09improvements in positive emotions are
- 43:11translating
- 43:12into benefits,
- 43:14with their interactions with their
- 43:16children.
- 43:19And so I think that
- 43:20this is really interesting,
- 43:22given that we can find
- 43:23these simple ways to support
- 43:25parents' well-being, and then that
- 43:26might translate into benefits for
- 43:28the whole family.
- 43:31I'm also interested in understanding,
- 43:34a variety of other questions.
- 43:36So
- 43:37these gratitude activities that I've
- 43:39been doing
- 43:40are relatively simple one time
- 43:42point, and I think it
- 43:43would be valuable to
- 43:46better understand whether they can
- 43:47sustainably
- 43:48lead to increases in well-being,
- 43:50perhaps with longer term interventions
- 43:53as opposed to a single
- 43:55time point.
- 43:56We're also,
- 43:57currently conducting studies including dyadic
- 44:00assessments of parent and children's
- 44:01well-being and relationship qualities so
- 44:03we can get both the
- 44:04parent and the child's perspective.
- 44:07Because it's certainly possible that
- 44:09maybe the parent feels better
- 44:10about their relationship with the
- 44:11child, but maybe the child
- 44:12doesn't.
- 44:13And it would be important
- 44:14to show,
- 44:16those benefits on both sides
- 44:17of that relationship.
- 44:20I am also really interested
- 44:21in understanding how these processes
- 44:23emerge during the transition to
- 44:25parenthood.
- 44:26The transition to parenthood has
- 44:27been identified as an inflection
- 44:29point for adult development, introducing
- 44:32risk for mental illness, but
- 44:33also opportunities
- 44:35for growth. And given
- 44:37the substantial changes that occur
- 44:39during this period of time,
- 44:41it's valuable to understand
- 44:44how these patterns play out
- 44:45during,
- 44:47this transition period.
- 44:49And,
- 44:50this might give us some
- 44:51insights into new behaviors and
- 44:54patterns that are emerging,
- 44:56that could either undermine or
- 44:58support parents' well-being.
- 45:01To that end, I'm currently
- 45:03collaborating with doctor Helena Rutherford
- 45:05here at the child study
- 45:06center,
- 45:08to
- 45:09understand how feelings of loneliness
- 45:11and social connection
- 45:13change from pregnancy through the
- 45:14early postpartum period and how
- 45:16those changes are related
- 45:18to parent and child health
- 45:20and well-being.
- 45:21We specifically
- 45:22hypothesized
- 45:23that social connectedness
- 45:25during the transition to parenthood
- 45:27will predict postpartum mental health
- 45:28and well-being
- 45:29with downstream consequences
- 45:31for child development.
- 45:33We are testing these
- 45:35these hypotheses in a longitudinal
- 45:38triadic
- 45:38study, including birthing parents, their
- 45:41partners,
- 45:42and children,
- 45:43as well as self report,
- 45:44health outcomes, and behavioral observations
- 45:48of parenting behavior and infant
- 45:49development.
- 45:51Sometimes it feels like we
- 45:52have the whole kitchen sink
- 45:54in this study.
- 45:56And so our hope with
- 45:57this work is that by
- 45:58evaluating social connection, mental health,
- 46:01and well-being,
- 46:02and how these unfold during
- 46:04the transition to parenthood,
- 46:05we can identify new routes
- 46:07of intervention,
- 46:08to improve caregiver well-being,
- 46:11minimize development of postpartum mood
- 46:13disorders, which will ultimately benefit
- 46:15the entire family for years
- 46:17to come.
- 46:19So in conclusion, I think
- 46:21that what my research demonstrates
- 46:23is that although parenting can
- 46:25be stressful, it can also
- 46:27be joyful
- 46:28and many parents are in
- 46:29fact,
- 46:30relatively
- 46:31happy
- 46:32amidst the stress.
- 46:35My work also
- 46:37focuses on understanding the psychological
- 46:39factors that predict and promote
- 46:41parents' well-being
- 46:43with an eye towards
- 46:45understanding how supporting parents' well-being
- 46:47can benefit,
- 46:50the entire family.
- 46:52And with that, I would
- 46:53be happy to take any
- 46:55questions
- 46:56that you have.
- 47:05Question over here.
- 47:10Doctor Cardona.
- 47:12Thank you so much for
- 47:14demonstrating so elegantly
- 47:16how you can combine both
- 47:17qualitative and quantitative
- 47:20methodologies
- 47:21to get at some very,
- 47:22very rich,
- 47:23data. So thank you for
- 47:25demonstrating that so very clearly.
- 47:28My question is about other
- 47:29moderators,
- 47:31that I wasn't sure you
- 47:33describe, which is,
- 47:35factors of poverty
- 47:37and also,
- 47:39cultural
- 47:40and racial identity.
- 47:42We know that our,
- 47:44brown and black families and
- 47:45those that suffer in poverty
- 47:48have a lot of adversities
- 47:49and whether you've looked at
- 47:51those as
- 47:52moderating factors in parent well-being
- 47:55and parent happiness and parenting.
- 47:58Yeah. I think that's a
- 47:59great question.
- 48:01So first I would say
- 48:02that financial strain is one
- 48:04of the key mechanisms
- 48:06in my model. And so
- 48:07I do think that,
- 48:09those experiences
- 48:11are,
- 48:12incredibly
- 48:13important,
- 48:15to, you know, understand
- 48:17and
- 48:18provide resources and
- 48:20support.
- 48:21I don't have any
- 48:23direct data,
- 48:25myself on those questions,
- 48:28but I think it's, you
- 48:29know you know,
- 48:32the, you know, maternal health
- 48:34care,
- 48:37experiences
- 48:37of brown and black women
- 48:39in particular,
- 48:40is a huge problem
- 48:42in this, this country. And
- 48:44I'm hoping that we might
- 48:46have some
- 48:47in our current ongoing study.
- 48:49I'm hoping that our sample,
- 48:50we will be diverse enough
- 48:51to allow us to
- 48:53evaluate some of those questions
- 48:55more thoroughly because there is
- 48:56absolutely a need.
- 48:58Okay. So we do have
- 48:59another question in the, from
- 49:00the Zoom room.
- 49:02Linda Drozdowicz, do you want
- 49:03to unmute and ask your
- 49:04question?
- 49:10If you can find the
- 49:11unmute button.
- 49:12She's she's there. She's just
- 49:14trying to unmute.
- 49:15There we go. Hey there.
- 49:16Thank you. Sorry. I wasn't
- 49:17letting you unmute. Thank you
- 49:18so much for this talk.
- 49:19This is such an important
- 49:20topic.
- 49:21Just just one second, Linda.
- 49:23Yep.
- 49:24We're just turning up. Again?
- 49:27Check. Check. One, two, three.
- 49:29Keep going.
- 49:30We're good? Good. Yes. Alright.
- 49:32Thank you so much for
- 49:33this talk. This is such
- 49:34an important topic.
- 49:36I I say this as
- 49:38a mother who loves being
- 49:39a mother, but motherhood can
- 49:40be a really raw deal.
- 49:42And I would be
- 49:44just, it can it tends
- 49:45to be and I would
- 49:47be very interested
- 49:49to see follow-up questions, or
- 49:51in the next iteration of
- 49:52the study,
- 49:53less about what mothers and
- 49:55fathers were doing while taking
- 49:57care of their children, but
- 49:58more about what they were
- 50:00thinking,
- 50:00because there's a lot of
- 50:02attention that's being paid increasingly
- 50:04to the mental load, which
- 50:05tends to disproportionately
- 50:06fall on mothers.
- 50:08Not of what you do
- 50:08in the home. But of
- 50:09who is in charge of
- 50:10thinking about, you know, what
- 50:12are we getting for dinner?
- 50:13Who's making it when we'll
- 50:13be on the table, you
- 50:15know, the kids ready for
- 50:15school, etcetera.
- 50:17And, you know, in in
- 50:18my personal experience with every
- 50:20mom, I know whenever you're
- 50:21spending time with your kids,
- 50:22you are also thinking about
- 50:23all those things simultaneously.
- 50:24And I would wonder if
- 50:26that would
- 50:27be a factor contributing to
- 50:29who is happier and less
- 50:30happy, you know, in the
- 50:31study. So,
- 50:32there's an exercise called the
- 50:34fair play game that I
- 50:35mentioned in my comment, which
- 50:36literally has on cards almost
- 50:37every organizational,
- 50:39you know, household task and
- 50:40and thought process that exists.
- 50:42And you can have couples
- 50:43divide them up and see
- 50:44who's in charge of thinking
- 50:45about what. So I just
- 50:46thought that would be really
- 50:47interesting because at least in
- 50:48my experience and from what
- 50:49I've read, that's a major
- 50:51factor in the experience of,
- 50:52you know, mothers versus fathers.
- 50:54Yes. Thank you so much
- 50:55for that comment. And the
- 50:56mental load of motherhood is
- 50:58definitely one of the reasons
- 51:00that I think we see
- 51:02this,
- 51:03gender divide in parents' well-being.
- 51:05And I'm also familiar with
- 51:06the fair play game and
- 51:07love it. Great recommendation.
- 51:13You can see for anyone
- 51:14who wants to obtain CEUs,
- 51:15Tara is putting a note
- 51:16in the chat just to
- 51:18sign out from this activity,
- 51:19and we put the sign
- 51:20out codes at the back
- 51:21of the room here in
- 51:22the cone for anyone who's
- 51:23interested.
- 51:25Hello.
- 51:27I had two questions. So
- 51:28the first one was, can
- 51:29you speak a little bit
- 51:30more of to the demographics
- 51:33of the parents that were
- 51:34involved in this study? And
- 51:36then the second one was,
- 51:37with the emergence of literature
- 51:39on hyper intent hyperattentive
- 51:42parenting and intensive parenting, have
- 51:44you taken that into consideration
- 51:46in this literature, and how
- 51:47is that kind of playing
- 51:48out in what you're seeing?
- 51:50Yeah. Absolutely. So,
- 51:53the demographics of the studies
- 51:55vary,
- 51:56depending, you know, on each
- 51:58specific study.
- 51:59And this is often why
- 52:01you'll see, like, I use
- 52:02the world value survey,
- 52:05the national survey of families
- 52:06and households,
- 52:08which draw from representative samples
- 52:10of the United States. And
- 52:12so,
- 52:13my hope is that we're
- 52:14capturing
- 52:15at least some representation,
- 52:16but this does
- 52:18still tend to lean towards
- 52:19more overrepresentation
- 52:21of white families.
- 52:23And so I think that
- 52:24there does need to be
- 52:25much more work done to,
- 52:27broaden the diversity and representation
- 52:30of our samples so that
- 52:31we can speak to more,
- 52:34you know, populations
- 52:35within our country.
- 52:37The other studies,
- 52:39also do tend to be,
- 52:41usually between sixty and seventy
- 52:43percent white,
- 52:46families. And so we are
- 52:47seeing kind of an overrepresentation
- 52:49of that,
- 52:50perspective.
- 52:51And then your second question
- 52:53about intensive parenting,
- 52:55I think that that is,
- 52:57a really great question. And
- 52:59I think that,
- 53:00there's,
- 53:01not my own studies, but
- 53:02work by others show that
- 53:04compares
- 53:05the amount of time parents
- 53:06spent with their children in
- 53:07the nineteen eighties compared to
- 53:09the amount of time parents
- 53:10spend with their children now.
- 53:12And it has increased,
- 53:14significantly,
- 53:17Upwards of, I think at
- 53:18least I don't have the
- 53:19exact numbers in front of
- 53:21me, but like at least
- 53:22ten hours a week, more
- 53:24time with kids. And I
- 53:25think that that's characteristic
- 53:27of that intensive
- 53:29parenting. Another thing that brings
- 53:31to mind when I hear
- 53:32intensive parenting
- 53:34is to consider parents' attachment
- 53:37orientations,
- 53:38because intensive parenting
- 53:40is common among parents with
- 53:43more anxious,
- 53:44patterns of attachment.
- 53:46And I do have data
- 53:48showing that,
- 53:50parents with,
- 53:52more anxious attachment styles
- 53:54are reporting
- 53:56fewer positive emotions and more
- 53:58negative emotions across the entire
- 54:00day. So not necessarily specific
- 54:01to when they're spending time
- 54:02with their kids,
- 54:03but,
- 54:05all the time they're feeling.
- 54:06And I think that that's
- 54:07demonstrative of that mental load
- 54:09and the worry that goes
- 54:10into
- 54:11caring for children, even when,
- 54:13when they're not with them.
- 54:15Great. And I think we
- 54:17have another question from the
- 54:18Zoom room. Catherine, do you
- 54:19want to unmute to ask
- 54:20your question?
- 54:21Catherine Bob?
- 54:31Oh, there I am.
- 54:32It was saying I couldn't
- 54:33unmute. So thank you for
- 54:34this presentation. I appreciate it.
- 54:37What I'm curious about is
- 54:39as much as you're saying
- 54:42a lot about parents and
- 54:44and, you know,
- 54:45what what their perspectives are
- 54:47and how they fall in
- 54:48in this
- 54:49research, you're saying quite a
- 54:51bit about people who are
- 54:53not parenting, and I can't
- 54:55remember the exact terminology that
- 54:56you use in terms of
- 54:59their
- 55:00identifier. But could you say
- 55:01a little bit more about
- 55:02the folks who are not
- 55:03parents
- 55:04and their sort of demographics?
- 55:07Did you did you gather
- 55:09any information about their connection
- 55:11to children, their connection in,
- 55:14you know, being in a
- 55:15partnership or, you know, like
- 55:17and any additional details about
- 55:19those folks who participated would
- 55:20be really insightful for me.
- 55:23Yeah. That's a great question.
- 55:25And I don't have as
- 55:27much, like, really, like, rich
- 55:29data about,
- 55:30the non parents in these
- 55:32studies.
- 55:33But I, I have thought
- 55:35about this a lot,
- 55:36because, and this part of
- 55:38the reason why I have
- 55:39actually moved away from these
- 55:41comparisons to non parents, because
- 55:44there's, you know,
- 55:45so many reasons why people
- 55:47might not have children.
- 55:49They might vary in their,
- 55:50you know, maybe they are.
- 55:53Have like lots of nieces
- 55:54and nephews
- 55:55or, you know, other, you
- 55:57know, children that they're in
- 55:59contact with, or you know,
- 56:00a variety of things. They
- 56:01might also have children in
- 56:02the future if they are
- 56:03relatively young.
- 56:06And what I can say,
- 56:08is that other studies that
- 56:10have, you know, broken apart
- 56:12the, the data based on,
- 56:15comparing, you know, people with
- 56:17children to
- 56:19people who don't have children
- 56:20but want to have children,
- 56:23or people who don't have
- 56:24children but don't want to
- 56:25have children,
- 56:27it matters.
- 56:29And,
- 56:30what we see is that
- 56:31the the, you know, comparisons
- 56:34of parents to people,
- 56:36who don't have children but
- 56:38want to have children,
- 56:39that well-being difference is much
- 56:41larger,
- 56:42not surprising.
- 56:43Whereas the difference between
- 56:45people who don't have children,
- 56:48and
- 56:49have no
- 56:50intention
- 56:51or desire to have children,
- 56:53the difference is much smaller.
- 57:03Doctor Reyes.
- 57:06Hi. So thank you so
- 57:07much for sharing your research.
- 57:08Mhmm. And I think just
- 57:09building off of what has
- 57:10been said,
- 57:12so far because I was,
- 57:13like, looking at the coefficients,
- 57:16and I was wondering if,
- 57:17like, how big are the
- 57:18effect sizes really? Because they
- 57:20seem like, you know, like
- 57:21seven point five versus seven
- 57:22point three, for instance. Like,
- 57:23is that really,
- 57:25you know, meaningful? So I'm
- 57:26just worried about the implications.
- 57:28And, you know, the
- 57:30given our political climate, I'm
- 57:31hearing, like, childless cat ladies
- 57:33and, you know, things like
- 57:34that.
- 57:35So yeah. So that's one
- 57:37thing that I that first
- 57:39got my attention when I
- 57:40was looking at your slides.
- 57:42And then the second is,
- 57:45I was fascinated
- 57:46by this, the parenting
- 57:48paradox because we seem to
- 57:50be
- 57:51dichotomizing,
- 57:52like, feeling sad versus feeling
- 57:54happy when you can have
- 57:56both.
- 57:56For instance, and then I
- 57:57think, like, building again off
- 57:59of what others have said,
- 58:00like, if you're coming from
- 58:02systemically
- 58:03disinvested communities
- 58:05where stress and, you know,
- 58:06all you know, you're suffering
- 58:08from
- 58:09all these other,
- 58:11stuff happening in your neighborhood
- 58:13and things like that. Like,
- 58:15I just I just worry
- 58:16about, like, this
- 58:18dichotomy
- 58:19of moving towards everything is
- 58:21positive and happy
- 58:23versus really thinking about, like,
- 58:25how are we able to
- 58:26find harmony
- 58:27and really accept
- 58:29the fact that, you know,
- 58:30you can't really remove stress
- 58:32from these communities, for instance.
- 58:34Yeah. Thank you for raising
- 58:36that. I wanna address the
- 58:37second point first, and then
- 58:38I'll come back to the
- 58:39first,
- 58:41which is that, like, I
- 58:43completely agree,
- 58:45with what you said. And
- 58:46it's often, like, something that
- 58:47I worry about a lot
- 58:48with studying positive emotions and
- 58:51happiness and well-being
- 58:53is,
- 58:54that I don't want it
- 58:55to be misconstrued that I'm
- 58:57just trying to walk around
- 58:58saying that people just need
- 58:59to be happy. Like they
- 59:01just need to be happy
- 59:02and that's all that matters.
- 59:04Because
- 59:05there is a lot of,
- 59:06you know, hurt and sadness
- 59:08in the world. And I
- 59:09actually think that part of
- 59:10being
- 59:11well
- 59:12is being able to
- 59:14acknowledge that,
- 59:16and experience
- 59:18those emotions
- 59:20without ruminating on them or
- 59:22getting, you know, letting them
- 59:23to kind of carry you
- 59:25away. And so I think
- 59:26that there is maybe a
- 59:27sweet spot of allowing ourselves
- 59:29to experience those negative emotions
- 59:31on alongside,
- 59:33the positive emotions.
- 59:35And,
- 59:37that's why, like, in the
- 59:38definition, I could probably give,
- 59:39like, a whole hour long
- 59:40talk just on this, but
- 59:41I'll try to keep it
- 59:42brief.
- 59:43What we're seeing in the
- 59:44the
- 59:45field of positive psychology
- 59:47is kind of, an a
- 59:49transition
- 59:50away from, like,
- 59:53positive is good. Negative is
- 59:54bad. We must avoid all
- 59:55negative emotions and only have
- 59:57positive emotions because that is
- 59:59too overly simplistic.
- 01:00:01But instead what we see
- 01:00:02is more of this idea
- 01:00:04of frequency.
- 01:00:05Right. And so we'll say
- 01:00:06like, you'll notice that I
- 01:00:08talked about the frequency of
- 01:00:09positive and negative emotions. I
- 01:00:10didn't say never experiencing,
- 01:00:13negative emotions,
- 01:00:15ever like, right. But instead
- 01:00:17it's about the balance of
- 01:00:19the two and the ability
- 01:00:21to cope with those negative
- 01:00:22experiences.
- 01:00:24And I like this idea
- 01:00:24of harmony that you raised.
- 01:00:26I think that's a really
- 01:00:26nice way of putting it.
- 01:00:28And then to come back
- 01:00:29to your first question, which
- 01:00:30is about effect sizes, I
- 01:00:31think that's a great point.
- 01:00:32So one, you'll see that
- 01:00:33the effect sizes for,
- 01:00:36the comparison of parents and
- 01:00:37non parents is minuscule.
- 01:00:40And that's again, another reason
- 01:00:41why I've moved away from
- 01:00:43some of those comparisons because
- 01:00:44I think it can get,
- 01:00:46the implications of that get
- 01:00:48distorted.
- 01:00:50And so instead, I I
- 01:00:52use that as a way
- 01:00:53of saying, like, parents
- 01:00:55are in fact not miserable.
- 01:00:57They're, like, you know, comparable
- 01:00:59to people without children because
- 01:01:00for a long time, the
- 01:01:01narrative was, like, parents are
- 01:01:03all miserable and they hate
- 01:01:04their children because having children
- 01:01:05is the worst,
- 01:01:06which is also an over
- 01:01:08exaggeration, like, where it's like
- 01:01:09a pendulum. Right?
- 01:01:11In terms
- 01:01:12of the effect sizes
- 01:01:13for the gratitude interventions and
- 01:01:16things like that,
- 01:01:17those effect sizes
- 01:01:19are,
- 01:01:20I would, you know, small
- 01:01:21to moderate, which is consistent
- 01:01:24with the literature on well-being
- 01:01:26more generally. And I think
- 01:01:27it's important to keep it
- 01:01:28in context
- 01:01:29and remember that this is
- 01:01:31a five to ten minute
- 01:01:33exercise.
- 01:01:34And we're seeing, you know,
- 01:01:36some, you know, small, moderate
- 01:01:38boosts and positive emotions.
- 01:01:40I would
- 01:01:41be
- 01:01:42very skeptical
- 01:01:44if I had an intervention
- 01:01:46of this type that was,
- 01:01:48you know, had this like
- 01:01:49massive,
- 01:01:50effect size given that we
- 01:01:52know there are lots of
- 01:01:53competing factors
- 01:01:55that influence
- 01:01:56well-being,
- 01:01:58at any given moment. And
- 01:02:00I see it these activities
- 01:02:02as, like, a little nudge.
- 01:02:03Right? Just like a little
- 01:02:05nudge throughout the day that
- 01:02:06people could engage in. And
- 01:02:08it's instead that experience of
- 01:02:09positive emotions
- 01:02:11that could
- 01:02:12shape,
- 01:02:13and change their experiences over
- 01:02:15the course of time. Because,
- 01:02:16you know, posit you know,
- 01:02:18there's lots of theory and
- 01:02:19evidence of
- 01:02:21the ways that positive emotion
- 01:02:23emotions can help people,
- 01:02:25broaden their mindsets and build
- 01:02:27resources and skills. And that's
- 01:02:29kind of the benefit that's
- 01:02:30gonna accrue
- 01:02:31over time, not necessarily the
- 01:02:32direct benefit of any one
- 01:02:34specific activity.
- 01:02:37All right. Great. Thank you.
- 01:02:38Sadly, we have to call
- 01:02:39it a day there, but
- 01:02:40just, I want to have
- 01:02:41everybody thank Doctor. Nelson Coffee
- 01:02:43once more. Really appreciate you
- 01:02:45being here.
- 01:02:47Thank you all so much
- 01:02:48for having me.