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"Sleep in Hospitalized Patients" Wissam Mansour (05.26.2021)

June 03, 2021
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  • 02:15Thanks Lauren Lauren.
  • 02:17Thank you for all that you've done for this.
  • 02:20I want to call it state sleep,
  • 02:22but the sleep seminar it's been just
  • 02:24this year and in the past several
  • 02:26years since you've taken over,
  • 02:28it's been such a rich seminar
  • 02:30series and so much appreciation
  • 02:32that I know many other people feel.
  • 02:35And so then it is also my pleasure today
  • 02:37to introduce Doctor Wissam, a Sir.
  • 02:39We have had the delight of having him
  • 02:42as a sleep fellow this year at Yale and
  • 02:44are so proud of all that he's achieved.
  • 02:47Doctor Mansour came initially
  • 02:48went to medical school in Beirut,
  • 02:51Lebanon at the Lebanese University.
  • 02:53He was a diagnostic radiology resident,
  • 02:55so he's got some skills there.
  • 02:57If you ever if you ever need them,
  • 02:58he then came to the state
  • 03:01and internal medicine,
  • 03:02pulmonary critical care.
  • 03:04Anne was pulmonary critical care
  • 03:06chief fellow at the Zucker School
  • 03:08of Medicine and Staten Island.
  • 03:09The Northwell Health Center,
  • 03:11and then we were delighted truly to
  • 03:15recruit him asleep fellow this year.
  • 03:18During his other fellowship in his residency,
  • 03:21he won many awards,
  • 03:22including Service Excellence Award,
  • 03:24fellow Teacher of the Year.
  • 03:25I know it's no surprise to
  • 03:27me looking over your CV,
  • 03:28knowing the wonderful job you've done this,
  • 03:30you're teaching and taking care of patients.
  • 03:34It also has been my delight this year to
  • 03:36work with Sam on his research project.
  • 03:38He really came up with the project
  • 03:39and let it on his own and I was
  • 03:42just there for support and I think
  • 03:43a reflection of that quality is
  • 03:45that it's been selected for an oral
  • 03:47presentation at sleep and I can't
  • 03:48wait to hear that talk as well.
  • 03:49So without further ado and a great deal
  • 03:51of thanks for a great year together,
  • 03:53I look forward to this talk on
  • 03:55sleep in hospitalised patients.
  • 03:59Thank you, thank you Doctor
  • 04:01ignore for the kind introduction.
  • 04:02So good afternoon everyone.
  • 04:06My topic today or my goal today
  • 04:08is to give you an overview about
  • 04:11sleep in hospitalized patients. R.
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  • 04:33Throughout my talk,
  • 04:35I plan to go over sleep disturbances
  • 04:38in hospitalized patients discussing
  • 04:41the types of these disturbances.
  • 04:44Have an overview of what kind of
  • 04:47health effects these disturbances may
  • 04:49have go over certain factors that
  • 04:53may affect sleep in the hospital.
  • 04:56But giving an overview about certain
  • 04:58tools that we have available to
  • 05:00measure sleep in the hospital and
  • 05:02finally concluding with possible
  • 05:04intervention that we can use to
  • 05:06help our patients sleep better.
  • 05:09So I'll start us off with a case.
  • 05:11Our patient is a 75 year old male who
  • 05:14presents to the emergency room at 10:00
  • 05:16PM for a three day history of fever,
  • 05:19lethargy, cough and shortness of breath.
  • 05:22He had a past medical history
  • 05:24that was significant for asthma,
  • 05:25hypertension, A-fib, and stroke.
  • 05:29In the Ed, the patient was placed
  • 05:32in the critical care section.
  • 05:34Vitals every 15 minutes.
  • 05:36He was started on some Ivy fluids
  • 05:38for borderline blood pressure,
  • 05:40he required oxygen support
  • 05:42via high flow nasal cannula.
  • 05:44He was given nabs antibiotics.
  • 05:47Some blood work was sent and
  • 05:49RVP was sent and xrays world.
  • 05:53To Fast forward his care six hours
  • 05:56later after after the easy work up,
  • 05:59he was sent to the ICU with a
  • 06:01diagnosis of sepsis and acute
  • 06:03hypoxic respiratory failure.
  • 06:04Secondary to a community acquired pneumonia.
  • 06:07He was physically in the
  • 06:09ICU at around 4:00 AM.
  • 06:11After he was transferred,
  • 06:12he had an initial assessment
  • 06:14by the nursing staff.
  • 06:16The overnight house staff came
  • 06:18in and did their HMP at 5:00 AM.
  • 06:21Phlebotomy came through blood
  • 06:235:30 in morning X-ray that
  • 06:24routine morning X ray and I see
  • 06:26you was done and the 6:00 AM his
  • 06:28scheduled nap treatment was given.
  • 06:32So at 7:00 AM, Brown started in
  • 06:36the ICU and the team went into
  • 06:38the room to check on the patient
  • 06:41and ask him how his night was.
  • 06:44I'm just giving this case and I know
  • 06:46a lot of what was done is important
  • 06:49to provide patients with timely care.
  • 06:51However, I wanted to show you some
  • 06:53times where our patients might start
  • 06:55off if we only take a look at their
  • 06:59homeostatic and sleep deprivation.
  • 07:00So in that morning the patient already
  • 07:03started with this significantly
  • 07:05high amount of sleep deprivation
  • 07:07with a lot of sleep pressure.
  • 07:12So the sleep disturbances
  • 07:13in the hospital can be.
  • 07:17Gross weight classified
  • 07:19into three categories.
  • 07:20Poor sleep quality,
  • 07:22reduced sleep quantity and
  • 07:25circadian misalignment.
  • 07:30Her sleep quality was tested
  • 07:32in both hospital wards and ICU
  • 07:35and the largest study was done.
  • 07:37The Netherlands,
  • 07:38looking at around 1500 patients,
  • 07:40and this was a subjective consensus
  • 07:43sleep diary that was given to the
  • 07:46patient so that they report their own.
  • 07:49Subjective feeling of how their
  • 07:51sleep was and they compared it
  • 07:53to how their sleep was 3030
  • 07:55days ago prior to admission.
  • 07:58It did show that patients felt that their
  • 08:01sleep latency was longer in the hospital.
  • 08:04They had longer periods of wake after sleep.
  • 08:06Answered, they had a total reduction
  • 08:09in the total sleep time and the
  • 08:11reduction in sleep efficiency.
  • 08:15ICU studies had more objective data present.
  • 08:20And they usually were done in
  • 08:22a small group of patients where
  • 08:25PSG's were performed and looking at
  • 08:28hypno grams from from the patients,
  • 08:31the top hypnogram is that of a normal adult
  • 08:35showing sleep phases which are in Gray.
  • 08:40Interrupted with short periods of
  • 08:44wakefulness, those are in white,
  • 08:45and if you compare it to the four
  • 08:47patients that are below that,
  • 08:49you can see the significant increase
  • 08:51in number of arousers our ICU patients
  • 08:54have the decreased efficiency in sleep,
  • 08:56the increased N1 and N2 sleep,
  • 08:59and almost complete absence of
  • 09:01N3 and REM sleep in the ICU.
  • 09:06In terms of sleep quantity,
  • 09:09there has been few studies done in
  • 09:11the medical words using actigraphy
  • 09:14for patients for admitted patients,
  • 09:16and it did show that the average in
  • 09:19hospital total sleep time was around one
  • 09:22hour less than that reported at home,
  • 09:24suggesting a limit.
  • 09:26A limitation in the quantity
  • 09:28of sleep in medical words.
  • 09:31As for the ICU.
  • 09:33No, studies were slightly more objective.
  • 09:36Looking at PSG data and if you
  • 09:39look at this example of five ICU
  • 09:42patients and you see their sleep,
  • 09:45which is shaded in black,
  • 09:47you can see that they were sleeping
  • 09:49all over the 24 hour period.
  • 09:52So despite not having adequate
  • 09:54quantity of sleep during the night,
  • 09:56if we take the whole 24 hour,
  • 09:59maybe their sleep quantity is not.
  • 10:00That is not that bad and this leads
  • 10:03us to the idea that maybe ICU patients
  • 10:07are more qualitatively sleep deprived
  • 10:10rather than quantitatively sleep deprived.
  • 10:14They can get this into consideration.
  • 10:16I'm going to move to the third
  • 10:19important sleep disruption and
  • 10:22it's circadian misalignment.
  • 10:24Two studies have been put forth to
  • 10:26look whether or not our ICU patients
  • 10:28do suffer from circadian misalignment.
  • 10:30Looking at the main markers
  • 10:33of circadian rhythm,
  • 10:35which are melatonin and core
  • 10:38body temperature?
  • 10:39The first study looked at 13 ICU
  • 10:42patients and they measured their
  • 10:44melatonin levels every four hours.
  • 10:46This graph that you see shows
  • 10:50the bars of which we think those
  • 10:53patients should have slept 2 hours
  • 10:56after their melatonin peak.
  • 10:58And that is compared to the black bar.
  • 11:03Limited with with with their
  • 11:05two blue lines showing,
  • 11:07where would they ideally have
  • 11:10slap between 7 between 11:00 PM
  • 11:13and 7:00 in the morning?
  • 11:15And as you can see,
  • 11:16most patients had relatively
  • 11:18advanced circadian rhythm and
  • 11:20two patients had more.
  • 11:28I'm sorry I had a more advance to them and
  • 11:30other patients had them or delate delate.
  • 11:35Looking at core body temperature,
  • 11:37similar findings were noted and that
  • 11:41triangles represent each patient
  • 11:44core body temperature during the
  • 11:45study and it shows you that the core
  • 11:48body temperature was distributed
  • 11:50along the whole 24 hours in the ICU.
  • 11:53Patients, rather than being where
  • 11:55most healthy normal subjects would be
  • 11:58between 4:30 in the morning and 6:45.
  • 12:03So now that we we have proof
  • 12:05that our patients in the ICU are
  • 12:08or in the hospital in general,
  • 12:09I'll sleep deprived.
  • 12:10It's important to look at what are the
  • 12:14health effects of these sleep disturbances?
  • 12:16Most available studies in the
  • 12:18in this in this area.
  • 12:21Actually looked at healthy subjects
  • 12:23who were put under sleep deprivation
  • 12:26or sleep restriction protocol,
  • 12:28so we don't really have a lot of
  • 12:30studies of patients who were sick
  • 12:32who were then sleep deprived and
  • 12:34looking how that organ systems react.
  • 12:36That being said,
  • 12:37you can and and as we would imagine,
  • 12:41the health effects of short term sleep
  • 12:44deprivation involves multiple organs,
  • 12:46and I'm going to go through a few
  • 12:49interesting studies in each organ system.
  • 12:53We all know that BI directional relationship
  • 12:56between like immunity and sleep deprivation.
  • 13:02And a lot of reports have come forth
  • 13:04noting that sleep deprivation for
  • 13:0724 hours leads to a significant
  • 13:09increase in neutrophil count and
  • 13:12increase in their innate immunity
  • 13:14was interesting about this study.
  • 13:16Is they looked at the subpopulation
  • 13:18of those neutrophils?
  • 13:19And they even looked at the function
  • 13:22of those neutrophils and how quickly
  • 13:24they went into a respiratory burst.
  • 13:26Looking at the graph,
  • 13:28you can see that the neutrophils
  • 13:30in patients who were totally sleep
  • 13:32deprived noted in the black line.
  • 13:34Had a much lower intensity of
  • 13:38respiratory burst compared to that
  • 13:41of patients who had normal sleep.
  • 13:44And this leads us to the idea
  • 13:46that maybe this increase in the
  • 13:48inflammatory response after sleep
  • 13:50deprivation is actually ineffective,
  • 13:53and those neutrophils in hospital patients
  • 13:55are not really going to do their job.
  • 14:01Probably the most important neuro
  • 14:04psychological effect that's been studied
  • 14:07in the ICU or in the hospital has
  • 14:09been delirium given its association
  • 14:11with increased length of stay.
  • 14:13Long term cognitive impairment
  • 14:15increased one year mortality.
  • 14:18A lot of researchers have looked
  • 14:21into the pathophysiology of delirium
  • 14:23and try to link it with sleep.
  • 14:26Now it's important to note that
  • 14:28sleep deprivation and delirium
  • 14:29do share a lot of their clinical.
  • 14:31An physiologic presentation of patients,
  • 14:35so it does make sense for us
  • 14:37to think about it.
  • 14:38What's more interesting is
  • 14:39that if we look at some of the
  • 14:42proposed mechanisms for delirium,
  • 14:44we can see that most 2 popular
  • 14:48hypothesis are an imbalance
  • 14:50in the neuro transmitters,
  • 14:53where patients with the Lilium
  • 14:54are thought to have a reduction.
  • 14:56Reduction Institute choline
  • 14:58and then increasing dopamine.
  • 15:01And this also may happen to
  • 15:03patients with sleep disturbances.
  • 15:05And the other interesting theory was
  • 15:08an abnormal tryptophan metabolism,
  • 15:10where patients who had hyperactive
  • 15:12delirium were found to have very
  • 15:14high levels of melatonin,
  • 15:16as opposed to patients hyperactive
  • 15:18delirium who were found to have
  • 15:20very low levels of melatonin.
  • 15:22So some authors suggested that
  • 15:25abnormal tryptophan metabolism
  • 15:27favoring either multiple metatone
  • 15:30production order production of DMT.
  • 15:33Is actually what leads to
  • 15:35delirium in our patients.
  • 15:36And we all know how melatonin is linked
  • 15:39to circadian rhythm and sleep in general.
  • 15:44In terms of studies done on lung function,
  • 15:48again, most of these studies
  • 15:49were done on healthy patients,
  • 15:51but it did show that sleep deprivation
  • 15:53for even healthy patients results the
  • 15:56next day in a blunted ventilatory
  • 15:58response to hypoxia and hypercapnia.
  • 16:01And impaired respiratory muscle endurance
  • 16:03and a decrease in the junior clauses.
  • 16:06Respons hinting towards increase in the
  • 16:10upper airway resistance studies in COPD.
  • 16:13Patients have shown that sleep deprivation
  • 16:15would lead to reduced FEV one.
  • 16:17And a study that was done in the
  • 16:20hospital for CPD patients in acute
  • 16:23respiratory failure showed that
  • 16:25those who had poor sleep.
  • 16:27And the hospital had a higher
  • 16:29risk of progressing to needing
  • 16:31mechanical ventilation.
  • 16:37In terms of the cardiovascular impact,
  • 16:40we know that sleep deprivation,
  • 16:41even short term,
  • 16:43results in increases in blood pressure.
  • 16:45What is interesting and this
  • 16:47data was provided to us mostly
  • 16:50in postoperative patients.
  • 16:52Is that as you see on the
  • 16:54program to your left,
  • 16:55a typical pre operative night for patients
  • 16:58would have an almost normal hypnogram.
  • 17:01With an acceptable amount of friends,
  • 17:03sleep in it.
  • 17:05On the operative night that patient had
  • 17:08PSG done and it showed almost complete
  • 17:10absence of N3 sleep or REM sleep.
  • 17:13What was more interesting is
  • 17:15that on the third on day three
  • 17:18post up looking at their PSG,
  • 17:20you can see that they go back
  • 17:22to a almost normal pattern,
  • 17:24but with a significant increase in the
  • 17:27amount of RAM those patients experience.
  • 17:30Now looking at one patient and
  • 17:32what happens during the REM sleep,
  • 17:34you can see to write the significant
  • 17:37hard date variability during
  • 17:39that period and the hypoxemia,
  • 17:41especially in vulnerable patients.
  • 17:44I would think that we might see a
  • 17:47similar pattern in patients who
  • 17:49are downgraded from the ICU or
  • 17:51who have been recently extubated
  • 17:53with sedation being stopped.
  • 17:58So now looking at the factors that
  • 18:01may influence sleep in the hospital,
  • 18:04and as you can see there are multiple
  • 18:06they interact with each other and you
  • 18:09can list them into 2 broad categories.
  • 18:12Environmental factors such as sound light,
  • 18:16certain circadian cues,
  • 18:17as more patient related and illness
  • 18:20specific factors such as bedside
  • 18:22care and the illness itself.
  • 18:24With all the treatment that that comes with.
  • 18:30I will start with discussing
  • 18:32some of the circadian cues.
  • 18:36To understand better how a change
  • 18:38in the pattern of circadian cues
  • 18:40may influence our patients,
  • 18:42one should understand this Akkadian
  • 18:44rhythm at the cellular level.
  • 18:46Without going into much of details,
  • 18:48our peripheral cells do
  • 18:50use transcription factors,
  • 18:52which are female and cloud.
  • 18:54To transcribe proteins which are
  • 18:57poor and cry, and those proteins
  • 19:01do suppress their own expression.
  • 19:03So after some time they go
  • 19:05back into the nucleus,
  • 19:06they bind to clock and bmal.
  • 19:09Rendering them ineffective and
  • 19:12hence their production will start.
  • 19:15After some time those proteins
  • 19:16get decorated by email and clock
  • 19:19or up and ready again and they
  • 19:21start producing these proteins.
  • 19:25This cellular cycle gets a lot of influence
  • 19:28from the outside and this is how we
  • 19:31maintain in trainment with the environment.
  • 19:34Light for example, and it's probably
  • 19:36the most important slide paper in
  • 19:39trains clocks, cellular clocks in
  • 19:41the suprachiasmatic nucleus.
  • 19:43And those neurons send a neurologic or
  • 19:47a chemical signals to other cells in
  • 19:50the body to keep them in in the rhythm.
  • 19:53Other rhythmic and training cues are
  • 19:56also present, maybe not as strong,
  • 19:59but those include times of
  • 20:02feeding changes in temperature,
  • 20:05sleep wake schedules, and exercise.
  • 20:09Why do we think this is important?
  • 20:11Well, we all know that cells have a diurnal
  • 20:14variability in terms of their function.
  • 20:16And the changes of circadian gene
  • 20:20expression well dictate what kind of
  • 20:22genes the cell will express during
  • 20:25that specific part of the day,
  • 20:27and it will also dictate cellular Physiology.
  • 20:32So while our most talked about circadian
  • 20:36disruption would be that of sleep wake cycle.
  • 20:41It is important to note that.
  • 20:46As I gave it is also have a direct influence
  • 20:50on the function of organs and cells.
  • 20:53And that this arrangement of these
  • 20:56affective side capers may lead mainly
  • 20:59to a complete desynchronization
  • 21:01between our central master clock
  • 21:04and our peripheral cells and organs.
  • 21:07Leading each organ functioning on its own
  • 21:10time and having different expressions.
  • 21:15So going going a little bit deeper
  • 21:18into their cues, and as I mentioned,
  • 21:20light is probably the most important
  • 21:22slide paper data from hospitals,
  • 21:24whether words or I see you have
  • 21:27shown a similar pattern where
  • 21:29patients are exposed to a relatively
  • 21:32dim light throughout the day.
  • 21:34And an acceptably dim light
  • 21:36throughout the night. However,
  • 21:38this light is interrupted by peaks of life,
  • 21:42and this is just an example of office
  • 21:45study that was done in the ICU,
  • 21:47and you can see longer than black,
  • 21:50the median of light exposure levels
  • 21:54and the interquartile range in Gray,
  • 21:57and what's important to note is that the
  • 22:00light during the night was acceptably them.
  • 22:03However, during the day and at around.
  • 22:06Between 9:00 AM and 11:00,
  • 22:07which was the peak exposure that
  • 22:10light did not go above 140 lots.
  • 22:13Just to put that into perspective
  • 22:16of what we experienced,
  • 22:18the sunny day is 30,000 lux and
  • 22:21office slide that has no windows
  • 22:23would be 500 lux O our hospital
  • 22:25patients are significantly under
  • 22:27exposed to light during the day.
  • 22:32What I found also interesting
  • 22:34is that the light patterns in
  • 22:36the hospital don't really differ
  • 22:39between morning and night.
  • 22:40So a study looking at the
  • 22:42difference of certain habits,
  • 22:43such as using lights in the room,
  • 22:46leaving the TV on,
  • 22:47having the window shade clothes
  • 22:49was really not significantly
  • 22:51different to morning,
  • 22:52noon or night time.
  • 22:56So back to our patient.
  • 22:59That afternoon the patient decompensated.
  • 23:02He required intubation,
  • 23:04mechanical ventilation.
  • 23:05He was started on sedation
  • 23:07restrained and the gastric tube
  • 23:10was placed for continuous feeds.
  • 23:12Just to give you guys an idea,
  • 23:14this was the light profile for
  • 23:17the ICU patient between 8:00
  • 23:19PM and 8:00 in the morning,
  • 23:21and as you can see the light level
  • 23:23exposure has been pretty them
  • 23:25throughout the night with a peak
  • 23:27and light exposure at around 3:00
  • 23:29AM to 4:00 AM and this correlated
  • 23:31to the patient undergoing a path.
  • 23:36Another important circadian
  • 23:38queue is the timing of meals.
  • 23:41And it is important for us
  • 23:42to know that the GI system,
  • 23:44including the anchors and liver
  • 23:46function in a in a circadian rhythm and
  • 23:50exposing patients to continuous feeds
  • 23:52like we usually do in the ICU or small
  • 23:56fields with an additional feed at 2:00 AM,
  • 23:59which is also a common
  • 24:01arrangement in the ICU.
  • 24:02Well, the result in a significant
  • 24:04disruption in that cycle and
  • 24:06put patients into complete
  • 24:08distinction between their central
  • 24:10rhythm and the peripheral.
  • 24:11Peripheral cellular.
  • 24:15So, after discussing circadian cues,
  • 24:18I want to move on to discuss another
  • 24:20important disruptive environmental
  • 24:21factor in the hospital, which is.
  • 24:24And sound can come from
  • 24:26many different sources,
  • 24:28most commonly reported or alarms,
  • 24:31and how staff conversation in
  • 24:33addition to some outside knows such
  • 24:35as street cars or health partners.
  • 24:41WHO sound recommendation for
  • 24:43someone to have good sleep?
  • 24:46Is to have a continuous background noise
  • 24:49of less than 30 a weighted decibels?
  • 24:52And to have noise events not higher than 45,
  • 24:57a weighted decibels and the definition of
  • 24:59noise events may value from study to study,
  • 25:02but it's basically an increase in
  • 25:05the noise from the from the back.
  • 25:09Looking at what we do in our hospital,
  • 25:12John Hopkins did an extensive study looking
  • 25:15at what happens on medical wards and
  • 25:18what's the sound level in patients rooms.
  • 25:21As you can see in this graph,
  • 25:24plotting the different rooms on
  • 25:26the X axis and the level of sound
  • 25:29exposure on the Y axis.
  • 25:31You can see that the average sun exposure,
  • 25:35which is plotted and straight
  • 25:37black lines and squares.
  • 25:39Was between 50 and 60 decibels.
  • 25:43The red line represents the peak.
  • 25:47I allowed threshold for The Who and
  • 25:51the blue line represents the background
  • 25:53threshold and you can see that our numbers
  • 25:56are significantly higher than that.
  • 26:00ICU studies were no different
  • 26:02against showing a significantly
  • 26:03high level of sound exposure.
  • 26:08What was also interesting in this study is
  • 26:10that they looked at sound peaks that occur,
  • 26:13and I see an environment and these were,
  • 26:15by the way sensors placed next to
  • 26:17patients heads. So that's exactly
  • 26:18what the patient is heating.
  • 26:20And you can see that noise
  • 26:23peaks that exceed 85 decibels.
  • 26:27Were plotted in bars in Gray,
  • 26:29and the noise peaks that exceeded
  • 26:32100 decibels were plotted,
  • 26:34and bars in black.
  • 26:36And throughout the whole day,
  • 26:39you can see a significantly
  • 26:40high number of noise events,
  • 26:42but more interestingly,
  • 26:43if you look in the middle of the graph,
  • 26:45which is the period between probably
  • 26:4712:00 AM to 6:00 in the morning,
  • 26:50you can see that patients had
  • 26:52at least at least five noise
  • 26:55events per hour of their sleep.
  • 26:59Just to put this into perspective
  • 27:01again and comparing it to loudness
  • 27:04chart so the average background in our
  • 27:07hospital units is similar to that of
  • 27:09someone sleeping next to a dishwasher
  • 27:12or someone sleeping next to someone
  • 27:14who's having a conversation with him.
  • 27:17Looking at the peaks,
  • 27:18it's similar to someone who's
  • 27:20sleeping on a highway next to
  • 27:22traffic or even in the subway.
  • 27:28Another important factor of sound
  • 27:30in addition to the idea of peaks
  • 27:33probably being more disruptive than
  • 27:35background is the source of the sound.
  • 27:38And some work was done in to that end.
  • 27:42And they looked at different,
  • 27:44so this work was done again on healthy
  • 27:48subjects and they were subjected.
  • 27:51Over the night of sleep,
  • 27:52two different sounds that people may
  • 27:54experience in the ICU and different sounds.
  • 27:57And they looked at that e.g and determine
  • 28:00whether or not the patient had an arousal
  • 28:02in response to that sound and at what
  • 28:05level that we even had an arousal.
  • 28:08And on the graph on top you can
  • 28:10see the different colors represent
  • 28:13a different sound source.
  • 28:15And when the when the color is
  • 28:19completely completely shaded.
  • 28:20This is when the patient had their houses,
  • 28:23so you can see that different sound sources
  • 28:26had different impact in terms of arousers,
  • 28:28and they concluded that electronic sounds,
  • 28:31such as alarms were actually more
  • 28:33arousing to patients than other sounds,
  • 28:36such as people talking.
  • 28:41Again, going back to our patient,
  • 28:43this was his sound exposure.
  • 28:45During the night you can see that the
  • 28:48average background noise was around 48,
  • 28:51which is again higher
  • 28:52than the recommendation.
  • 28:54You can see multiple peaks and the
  • 28:58average of the peaks was around 8/4 hour.
  • 29:01And again, as a reminder,
  • 29:02sound peaks are probably more
  • 29:05associated with arousals from
  • 29:06sleep than continuous backgrounds.
  • 29:11So that moves us to the 4th
  • 29:14component of the sleep disruptors,
  • 29:16and this is bedside care.
  • 29:20In a study looking at how much
  • 29:23activity occurs in patients
  • 29:25who 50 patients were sampled
  • 29:28from the three different ICU's
  • 29:31in a New Jersey hospital.
  • 29:32And if you look at the bars,
  • 29:35you can see that.
  • 29:36From 7:00 AM to 6:00 in the morning,
  • 29:39almost every hour the patient
  • 29:41had an interaction with someone,
  • 29:43and within one hour sometimes
  • 29:45it happened 4 four times.
  • 29:49Another interesting findings in those isues.
  • 29:53And each bar from this represents
  • 29:56a different different type of ISU,
  • 29:57but it's probably consistent across all four.
  • 30:01Was the timing of the path.
  • 30:04So most of our patients received a bath
  • 30:06at around 4:00 or five in the morning.
  • 30:12Going back to our patient,
  • 30:13this was the number of entrances
  • 30:16and exits from his room.
  • 30:18And as you can and this is from
  • 30:198:00 PM to 8:00 in the morning,
  • 30:21and as you can imagine,
  • 30:23this number is significantly high,
  • 30:25reaching 238 entries for one nine.
  • 30:33Last but not least is the impact of the
  • 30:36illness itself on the patients sleep,
  • 30:39and that illness can can result
  • 30:42in sleep disruption because of.
  • 30:44Neurological involvement like brain damage,
  • 30:47multi organ failure, pain,
  • 30:48anxiety from the illness or it can
  • 30:52result from disruption due to treatments
  • 30:54such as using a mechanical ventilator,
  • 30:58certain certain medications.
  • 31:02Looking at the endless by itself,
  • 31:04it's important to note that different
  • 31:07illnesses may result in different impact
  • 31:09in different impact on patients sleep.
  • 31:12This study compared 11 ICU patients who
  • 31:16had sepsis to 11 ICU patients who did
  • 31:20not have substance and it looked at the
  • 31:23influence of sepsis and inflammation on
  • 31:25the expression of circadian rhythm genes.
  • 31:29The sepsis patients were persisted on
  • 31:32this figure in red and as you can see,
  • 31:35the expression of the cry one
  • 31:38protein was significantly decreased
  • 31:40in patients who had sepsis.
  • 31:44And it really lost its variation with time.
  • 31:50Another study looked at injecting
  • 31:53endotoxin to human healthy volunteers.
  • 31:56Yes, this was IRB approve.
  • 32:00And they looked at the expression of these
  • 32:03circadian genes in their local sites.
  • 32:05Following the injection of the endotoxin,
  • 32:08as you can see to your left,
  • 32:09there was a significant reduction in the
  • 32:12expression of multiple circadian genes.
  • 32:15And this reduction persisted
  • 32:17for around 24 hours.
  • 32:20But what was more interesting is
  • 32:22that looking at the melatonin level,
  • 32:24the melatonin secretion was not
  • 32:27really impacted by this injection.
  • 32:29And that's an important idea.
  • 32:32To have us wonder whether or
  • 32:34not impact on peripheral cells
  • 32:36is different than the impact on
  • 32:38the central circadian rhythm,
  • 32:40and hence leading to an internal
  • 32:44desynchronization between circadian rhythms.
  • 32:48Another very important factor,
  • 32:50but probably too wide for us
  • 32:53to dive into during this talk,
  • 32:55is the effect of medications we
  • 32:57use in the hospital on sleep.
  • 32:59I'm just putting this to show you to
  • 33:02give you an idea of how much different
  • 33:06medication classes can impact sleep,
  • 33:08its architecture and quality.
  • 33:13Now moving to available tools that may
  • 33:15allow us to measure sleep in the hospital.
  • 33:19PSG is probably the gold standard
  • 33:21for sleep measurement, however,
  • 33:23in the hospital setting it is
  • 33:25a labor intensive procedure.
  • 33:27It's pretty costly.
  • 33:28It's very difficult to tolerate by
  • 33:31patients for 24 hours specially,
  • 33:34especially in non ICU patients
  • 33:36who are active.
  • 33:38And another important point is that the
  • 33:40traditional scoring may be difficult.
  • 33:42In critically.
  • 33:43I'll patients who may lose K
  • 33:45complexes spindles due to the illness
  • 33:47or due to certain medications.
  • 33:52Actigraphy has also been tried.
  • 33:55It's an it has an acceptable correlation.
  • 33:57PSG based on previous studies.
  • 34:00It is of low cost.
  • 34:02It could be used for multiple nights and
  • 34:06it's very well tolerated by patients.
  • 34:09The problem with actigraphy is
  • 34:12that it may overestimate steam.
  • 34:14And especially in patients who are
  • 34:16inactive and I see patients who are
  • 34:19sedated since activity is a major factor
  • 34:21in the algorithm of these devices.
  • 34:25And it doesn't really provide
  • 34:27any sleep staging data.
  • 34:31To make things even easier, some sleep
  • 34:33questionnaires have been put forth,
  • 34:35and the most commonly uses the
  • 34:38Richard Scampbell Sleep Questionnaire.
  • 34:40It was, it did have a
  • 34:44content validity against PSG.
  • 34:46In the relatively small study.
  • 34:49But the questionnaire asks
  • 34:51patients about their sleep depth,
  • 34:53latency, number of awakenings.
  • 34:55How much time it took them
  • 34:57to go back to sleep?
  • 34:59Their assessment of their sleep
  • 35:01quality and whether or not there was an
  • 35:05intervening factor disrupting their sleep.
  • 35:07And one example of that was noise,
  • 35:10and they give them a visual analog
  • 35:12which is from zero to 10 or zero to 100,
  • 35:15with 0 being the worst and 10 or
  • 35:19100 being the best qualities.
  • 35:24Now, now that we know the impact
  • 35:27of these sleep disruptions,
  • 35:28that type of these sleep disruptions
  • 35:31some ways for us to evaluate how our
  • 35:34patients in the hospital are sleeping.
  • 35:36It's important to see whether or not.
  • 35:39Interventions may help.
  • 35:44Looking at our patient, for example,
  • 35:46or a patient with an illness in general.
  • 35:49There are certain factors that
  • 35:50we cannot really run away from.
  • 35:52Our patients need timely care.
  • 35:55They need certain medications.
  • 35:56Even though a lot of the stuff
  • 35:59that we do can be adjusted chilly
  • 36:01in the non emergent setting.
  • 36:03But possibly the most Inter
  • 36:06Venable point in all of those
  • 36:08factors would be the environment.
  • 36:13Some studies have looked at the use of
  • 36:16bright light therapy during the day,
  • 36:18and as I mentioned,
  • 36:19light has a very very important role
  • 36:23in maintaining circadian rhythm.
  • 36:25And one of the initial pilot
  • 36:27studies was done,
  • 36:28or postoperative patients who
  • 36:30were exposed to light for around
  • 36:332 hours in the morning for three
  • 36:36days after their surgery.
  • 36:37And that resulted in decreased delirium.
  • 36:42In their patients who were exposed
  • 36:44to light compared to the control.
  • 36:48In addition to that,
  • 36:49few other studies have shown
  • 36:51that bright light therapy
  • 36:52during the day in the hospital.
  • 36:55Would result in improvement
  • 36:57and subjective sleep quality.
  • 36:59Expose agitation episodes in
  • 37:02mechanically ventilated patients and
  • 37:04one study even showed a reduction
  • 37:07in mortality in patients post AM I.
  • 37:09And that study randomized compared
  • 37:11patients who were placed in adult
  • 37:14room versus those in a sunny room.
  • 37:16However, this mortality benefit
  • 37:18has not been reproduced.
  • 37:22So how can we really?
  • 37:23How can we intervene in our patients?
  • 37:27It is important to realize that this
  • 37:30is a multidisciplinary approach.
  • 37:31And protocols should be put with a
  • 37:34cluster care in mind from various
  • 37:37staff members and providers.
  • 37:40Controlling sounds would be the easiest.
  • 37:44There has been suggestions of
  • 37:47using tally alarms where nursing
  • 37:49staff or providers can actually
  • 37:52carry those tally alarms with them,
  • 37:55and instead of the alarm beeping
  • 37:56next to a patient like a mechanical
  • 37:59ventilator patient who can do nothing,
  • 38:01absolutely nothing about the
  • 38:02alarm except waking up to it.
  • 38:05Actually having the alarms beep
  • 38:06next to the staff who will actually
  • 38:09be able to respond to it.
  • 38:11Providing daytime light has
  • 38:13been showing some promise,
  • 38:15not completely consistent across all studies,
  • 38:18but it is showing some promise
  • 38:20preventing overnight light exposure,
  • 38:23specially from unnecessary procedures.
  • 38:26Rescheduling certain routine
  • 38:29patient care requirements.
  • 38:31It's very important to
  • 38:33reassure these patients,
  • 38:34as we mentioned that anxiety and
  • 38:36controlling their pain is a very
  • 38:39important factor in reducing
  • 38:40sleep disruption.
  • 38:41Changing our nutrition strategies.
  • 38:44And avoiding continuous meals and
  • 38:46mobilizing patients as soon as possible.
  • 38:52For that purpose,
  • 38:52some work has been put forth,
  • 38:54and this is some work done by the Yale team.
  • 38:58And this is the evaluating the use
  • 39:00of a nap time during the night
  • 39:03or arrest time and the rest time
  • 39:05was basically for four hours for
  • 39:07ICU patients between 12:00 in the
  • 39:09morning and four four in the morning.
  • 39:11And what they basically did is they try
  • 39:15to reschedule or unnecessary patient care.
  • 39:18And a nurse was like the gatekeeper
  • 39:21to make sure that this protocol is as
  • 39:26well implemented for the patients.
  • 39:29If you look at the impact of the protocol,
  • 39:32those figures show the control
  • 39:34subjects and squares and the patients
  • 39:37one went protocols in circles.
  • 39:40Looking to your left is.
  • 39:44Is the number of entrances into the
  • 39:47room before 12:00 AM and looking to
  • 39:51your right is what happened after
  • 39:5312:00 AM till 4:00 AM and you can
  • 39:56see a significant reduction in the
  • 39:59intervention group in the number
  • 40:00of entrances into the room.
  • 40:02A significant reduction in the
  • 40:04background noise and more importantly a
  • 40:07reduction in the number of sound peaks.
  • 40:10During that, during that period of rest.
  • 40:17Other hospitals have adopted promoting sleep
  • 40:20hygiene and having a care bundle for it,
  • 40:24in which all the hospital staff
  • 40:27are involved in. So for example,
  • 40:29physicians have a main role in avoiding
  • 40:31unnecessary diagnostic studies,
  • 40:33so maybe our patient did not need that
  • 40:35repeat chest X ray early in the morning.
  • 40:37Maybe his nebuliser could have been
  • 40:40pushed a little bit. Avoidance of.
  • 40:45Letting patients having anxiety.
  • 40:47Communicating well with
  • 40:50patients and reassuring them.
  • 40:52The nursing staff has a vital role
  • 40:55in terms of being gatekeepers for
  • 40:57implementing the bundle and avoiding
  • 41:00any non urgent bedside care such as
  • 41:03the path that we noted in our patient.
  • 41:07Respiratory therapists have a
  • 41:09role in avoiding unnecessary
  • 41:12suctioning during the night,
  • 41:14and even though I didn't
  • 41:15go into depth about it,
  • 41:17but alerting and adjusting settings
  • 41:20to avoid ventilator asynchrony is
  • 41:23key in avoiding patients having sleep
  • 41:25disruptions at night in the ICU.
  • 41:28Pharmacists also have a role
  • 41:31in changing ordering protocols.
  • 41:34Nutrition have a major role in avoiding.
  • 41:39It was two fields and maybe using a more
  • 41:42daytime restricting feeding protocol.
  • 41:44Physical therapy with early mobilization.
  • 41:48Hospital administration with
  • 41:49implementing certain policies.
  • 41:51Maybe the alarm monitors may be
  • 41:54increasing staffing during the
  • 41:56day to allow for taking paths,
  • 41:59increasing availability of other
  • 42:01services such as trash pickup
  • 42:03during the day instead of 4:00 AM.
  • 42:08Avoiding any maintenance work overnight.
  • 42:12And there's also a role for ancillary
  • 42:15testing services may be increasing staffing
  • 42:17during day shifts to avoid very early
  • 42:20on need for phlebotomy or chest xrays.
  • 42:26I wanna I wanna end with this code
  • 42:29from Doctor Rhonda Ouch who was
  • 42:32actually an ICU patient in 2017 and
  • 42:37she wrote a book about her experience
  • 42:40in the ICU and this is probably the
  • 42:43most resonating take home message.
  • 42:45So she said that the absence of even
  • 42:48a full minute of silence combined
  • 42:50with a constant pain made sleeping
  • 42:52difficult for me every other moment.
  • 42:55An alarm would sound.
  • 42:56A monitor would be.
  • 42:58There was near constant noise
  • 43:00activity and the whole cold school
  • 43:03called all over the PA system.
  • 43:07With this I would like to end my talk.
  • 43:09A big thanks to my mentor,
  • 43:12doctor Melissa Kynar,
  • 43:13who has guided me throughout this
  • 43:15whole year and was kind enough to
  • 43:18share her work with me and some
  • 43:21of the slides I showed and big.
  • 43:24Another big thank you to the Sleep
  • 43:27Medicine team including faculty,
  • 43:29staff and Michael Fellows for what
  • 43:32was really an amazing guy right here.
  • 43:35Thank you very much and if you guys
  • 43:37have any questions please feel free.
  • 43:44Thanks everyone, yes if you want to
  • 43:46put questions in the chat or just
  • 43:48unmute and ask, go right ahead.
  • 44:07This is a in where I had a question that was
  • 44:10a great presentation and really you know,
  • 44:12great job in talking about all
  • 44:14the basic science, Physiology.
  • 44:16Everything kind of put into a very
  • 44:20complicated hospitalization with a lot
  • 44:22of different external factors going on.
  • 44:24You know the one thing I kind of
  • 44:26struggle with with this topic is you
  • 44:28know what has been proven to kind of
  • 44:31change patient centered outcomes I mean.
  • 44:32We have a lot of theoretical
  • 44:34evidence that you know these things
  • 44:37could help and sleep deprivation.
  • 44:39The harms of deprivation and and so forth,
  • 44:41but hasn't there been any sort of evidence
  • 44:44in the last few years or so that have
  • 44:48looked at specific interventions on,
  • 44:50you know, changing the environment,
  • 44:52let's say in the ICU,
  • 44:53where you know my main interest is and
  • 44:55and can that really have a dramatic,
  • 44:57heavy, significant impact
  • 44:59on mortality length of stay?
  • 45:02So we admission rates, etc.
  • 45:05I know that there there's been some
  • 45:07data looking in non ICU patients
  • 45:08on heart failure and getting those
  • 45:10patients diagnosed and getting
  • 45:12them on PAP therapy and that could
  • 45:14potentially reduce readmission rates.
  • 45:15But have you?
  • 45:16Have you seen anything that you
  • 45:18know says by shadow of doubt?
  • 45:20You know we should be doing this 'cause
  • 45:22this is going to have a meaningful
  • 45:23outcome and what are the future
  • 45:25needs for the research in the field?
  • 45:26So a lot of questions,
  • 45:27but you could do your best.
  • 45:29That's
  • 45:30OK. Thank you doctor weird.
  • 45:31So I think that. For now,
  • 45:33just probably more experience in this topic,
  • 45:37but from from what I was seeing is
  • 45:39this is a pretty young field like most
  • 45:42of the studies are very, very recent.
  • 45:45There is this difficulty in it really
  • 45:48assessing sleep in these patients,
  • 45:51really assessing whether or not
  • 45:53our interventions are helping,
  • 45:55and most of the studies that we have have
  • 45:58been pretty pretty down size too small.
  • 46:01Sample size.
  • 46:02Now that being said.
  • 46:03One of the interventions which I felt
  • 46:06was gaining a lot of popularity was
  • 46:08bright light exposure during the day,
  • 46:11even though it did not show this
  • 46:13benefit in all patient groups.
  • 46:16But it shows some trend towards
  • 46:18decreasing delirium in our patients,
  • 46:20and we know how delirium can
  • 46:22impact those patients.
  • 46:23It did show a trend tower patients
  • 46:26having improved subjective
  • 46:27sleep quality and reduction in
  • 46:29hospital stay and length of stay.
  • 46:33So there is this.
  • 46:35Trend on,
  • 46:36not sure about other data that was
  • 46:38able to actually show that those
  • 46:41sleep under high jeans or in app
  • 46:43protocol would actually influence
  • 46:46direct big outcomes like mortality.
  • 46:49In our patients.
  • 46:53So Sam, that was an absolutely
  • 46:56brilliant, brilliant presentation.
  • 46:59Did we learn anything from
  • 47:02patients who were admitted to
  • 47:04hospital with COVID about sleep?
  • 47:08I I personally have not come
  • 47:11across any study. You mean and
  • 47:15during that hospitalization,
  • 47:16right during their hospitalization?
  • 47:18That's correct. Yeah
  • 47:19yeah, I personally did not come across
  • 47:22any study looking at the patterns of
  • 47:25sleep in patients admitted for COVID.
  • 47:27I'm not sure if anyone else did or
  • 47:29would like to share that experience.
  • 47:39I'll just say, anecdotally,
  • 47:40it's hard to sleep with a high
  • 47:42flow nasal cannula on 24/7,
  • 47:44so for the patients that we
  • 47:46see as pulmonary critical care,
  • 47:49you know there seems to be a lot of sleep
  • 47:51deprivation prolonged hospitalization.
  • 47:53I imagine there's REM deprivation
  • 47:55and those type of things,
  • 47:56but that's a great question.
  • 47:57Like, has anyone really looked at?
  • 47:59You know, for these patients that are
  • 48:00being in the hospital for a long time,
  • 48:02especially with the high flow out?
  • 48:03Jen and prolonged you know requirements,
  • 48:07but yeah, they a lot of times
  • 48:09they'll say that they're exhausted
  • 48:10and they and they can't sleep.
  • 48:12But I don't think we have at
  • 48:14least any objective evidence.
  • 48:16Yeah, and I think the other factor
  • 48:18that might need to be looked at is the
  • 48:21is interaction with family members.
  • 48:25I mean obviously during Kovit,
  • 48:26family members were seldom allowed
  • 48:29to come and be next to the patient,
  • 48:33and that's something that
  • 48:34I'm guessing had a terrible,
  • 48:36terrible effect on anxiety,
  • 48:38stress, an inability to sleep.
  • 48:49I agree, I am very intentionally not
  • 48:53asking questions, but I would comment.
  • 48:57To your question in I think Sam hit
  • 48:59the nail on the head is that that
  • 49:01what really limits the field asleep
  • 49:03measurement an it's my continuous hope
  • 49:05that these newer and better wearables
  • 49:07that are getting ever smaller and ever
  • 49:10more comfortable are going to sort of
  • 49:11be a way forward eventually so that we
  • 49:13can prove I have a very small study that
  • 49:17was retrospective and has limitations.
  • 49:20But loss of stage and two features
  • 49:23was associated with death in ICU and
  • 49:26generally speaking in that study also
  • 49:28showed changes in length of stay.
  • 49:30It's a very particular patient
  • 49:32population that we looked at,
  • 49:33but I think it's there.
  • 49:34I just think it's the challenges in
  • 49:37measuring and as Sam showed so nicely
  • 49:39it's so complicated and so how do you?
  • 49:42How do you pull one piece out of the web?
  • 49:45Yeah.
  • 49:49Alright, other questions.
  • 49:55Hi, thank you, thank
  • 49:57you for that great talk.
  • 49:58This is Lori Schechter. I'm from
  • 50:00Columbia University.
  • 50:00It's a first time joining in on
  • 50:03this session is really interesting.
  • 50:04Appreciate being able to be here.
  • 50:07Quick question
  • 50:08for you mentioned briefly about some
  • 50:09of the methodological
  • 50:11limitations of using actigraphy.
  • 50:13In patients to track sleep and
  • 50:17I was wondering if you could
  • 50:18just if you could just talk
  • 50:19about that for another second and
  • 50:22you know, aside from questionnaires,
  • 50:26what would be some potential
  • 50:29alternatives right now,
  • 50:31aside from PSG as well. Sure,
  • 50:34so that the limitation of actigraphy is
  • 50:38mostly in hospital patients who are who
  • 50:40lack a lot of activity during the day.
  • 50:43So even though they're away if they're
  • 50:45sitting in bed still, the acting
  • 50:47actigraphy may report that as sleep.
  • 50:51And more, especially in patients
  • 50:53who are sedated in the ICU who are
  • 50:57not really doing much of activity,
  • 50:59and so actigraphy may overestimate
  • 51:02sleep in those patients.
  • 51:04It probably would have a better
  • 51:06correlation in patients on the wards.
  • 51:09Who are more active,
  • 51:11leaving their room doing stuff?
  • 51:13As for as far as other potential
  • 51:16devices that we can use in the future,
  • 51:19so I know doctor clout mentioned
  • 51:21the variables.
  • 51:22I saw only one study where they use the
  • 51:25two and they try to compare it to PSG.
  • 51:28It didn't have a great correlation and
  • 51:31I'm sorry they didn't compare to PSG.
  • 51:34They compared actually too subjective
  • 51:36sleep and it had a moderate correlation
  • 51:38with what the patients reported.
  • 51:41Another possible thing that we may
  • 51:43use in the future is the technology
  • 51:46called old 3 issue product where
  • 51:49they use a single DDG and then
  • 51:51they kind of dissect that,
  • 51:53EG into very tiny 3 second three
  • 51:56second parts and they give you a number
  • 51:58based on the activity that's going on,
  • 52:01and that number correlates well
  • 52:04with wakefulness or being asleep.
  • 52:06This this may be easier to
  • 52:09do compared to full montage,
  • 52:11but this has not been studied
  • 52:13in the inpatient setting.
  • 52:14The data,
  • 52:14the data that we have are all
  • 52:16in the outpatient setting.
  • 52:21Thank you.
  • 52:34Alright, well that well thank you
  • 52:35so much Sam that was wonderful.
  • 52:37He represented the
  • 52:39complexity of the challenges.
  • 52:40The field really well and what
  • 52:42a great way to end the year.
  • 52:44For those of you who joined a little late,
  • 52:46this is the final session of the year
  • 52:47and so also a congratulations to
  • 52:49Doctor Tobias for all the lecture.
  • 52:51Wonderful lecture she put together this year.
  • 52:56Thanks everybody, have a great
  • 52:59summer. And I'll see you in
  • 53:00the fall. Thank you. Bye bye.