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Trauma & Anxiety

December 12, 2020

Trauma & Anxiety

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  • 00:00And we want your feedback
  • 00:02about how this format works.
  • 00:04This is, we think,
  • 00:05a chance to embrace the future and
  • 00:07embrace a new way of reaching people
  • 00:09and telling them about the child
  • 00:11study center and getting your input
  • 00:13about the Child study Center as well.
  • 00:16So today's session is about trauma and
  • 00:20working with children under adversity
  • 00:23and who have experienced trauma.
  • 00:26And we have two members of our faculty,
  • 00:28Steven Marans and Ellie
  • 00:30Liebowitz to kick us all.
  • 00:33The other point that I just want
  • 00:35to make is that perhaps there is
  • 00:37never been a time even more than
  • 00:40now where children's behavioral
  • 00:41health services are in need.
  • 00:44You may have been aware of the
  • 00:46recent report just from the
  • 00:48Center for Disease Control shows.
  • 00:51The dramatic increase in need for
  • 00:53behavioral health services from
  • 00:55children from birth through age 18.
  • 00:57We are in the sense we're in a
  • 01:00parallel surge of parallel pandemic
  • 01:02of the need for behavioral health,
  • 01:05and nothing perhaps contributes more
  • 01:07than the stress and uncertainty of the
  • 01:10current circumstances that all of
  • 01:12our communities and
  • 01:13families find themselves in.
  • 01:15So it is fitting that we start
  • 01:18with this particular topic.
  • 01:20I mean, I want to turn it over
  • 01:22now to Doctor Steven Marans who
  • 01:24is some Professor Harris professor
  • 01:26in the trial study Center.
  • 01:28The leader of our child development
  • 01:30and Community Policing Program,
  • 01:32and provides a tremendous amount of
  • 01:33services to children and families
  • 01:35who have experienced both acute
  • 01:37and chronic trauma.
  • 01:38So may I turn it to Steven to
  • 01:40you and to kick us off in this
  • 01:43new format on this day?
  • 01:45Thank you.
  • 01:48Great, so now I'm hoping that I can
  • 01:51get back to slides. Duncan you can I.
  • 01:55Point me in the right direction here.
  • 01:57Yeah, if you got your slides up,
  • 01:59go to the share screen
  • 02:00button in the bottom
  • 02:01of those in window there.
  • 02:05Got it. OK, there you go.
  • 02:09So thank you Linda and thank you
  • 02:12all for being together today.
  • 02:14I want to begin by first
  • 02:17thanking the the Harris family,
  • 02:19who in doubt my chair that
  • 02:22actually allows the trauma section.
  • 02:24The childhood Violent Trauma Center,
  • 02:26which I'm the director of to continue
  • 02:30to work and thrive as well as to.
  • 02:33Well, thanks and gratitude to Thomas.
  • 02:37I could ask to one moment, Steven,
  • 02:39if I could ask everyone else to mute
  • 02:42while Steven and others are talking.
  • 02:44And Duncan, can you help us with
  • 02:46the muting? Sorry Steven. Maybe
  • 02:47you could go.
  • 02:51OK, so just get Tom.
  • 02:54You get to have a another
  • 02:56thank you opportunity.
  • 02:58I bet the support of the the
  • 03:01associates is enormously important,
  • 03:03especially in these times,
  • 03:05with funding cuts continuing
  • 03:07and demand increasing.
  • 03:08So I want to begin by thinking about.
  • 03:14Oh my goodness. Sorry.
  • 03:22I am trying to back OK.
  • 03:25Yeah, I want to begin by thinking about
  • 03:28some of the common sources of threat,
  • 03:32danger, and distress that all
  • 03:34of the shares human beings and
  • 03:36unfortunately all of us are feeling
  • 03:39to some extent or another.
  • 03:41Do the covid covid pandemic.
  • 03:43None of these will surprise you,
  • 03:45but they are all dangers that
  • 03:47as human beings we share.
  • 03:52We think about these dangers as being
  • 03:55the context for considering what
  • 03:57we mean by psychological trauma.
  • 03:59We consider psychological traumas
  • 04:01and injury that occurs when there's
  • 04:04an overwhelming unanticipated
  • 04:05danger involving some of the things
  • 04:08with which we are all familiar.
  • 04:10That leads to a subjective experience
  • 04:13of helplessness, loss of control,
  • 04:15and the experience of what we
  • 04:17call feeling overwhelmed.
  • 04:20This is a situation in which there
  • 04:23is an immobilization of our usual
  • 04:25normally available capacities to
  • 04:28defend against danger and to decrease
  • 04:31feelings of fear and anxiety,
  • 04:33and in fact,
  • 04:34there's a neurophysiologic dysregulation
  • 04:36that significantly disrupts our
  • 04:38affect of cognitive, somatic,
  • 04:40and behavioral responses to stimuli.
  • 04:43We've learned a lot about the
  • 04:46phenomenon of trauma through 30
  • 04:48odd years of our work as a trauma
  • 04:51section in addressing the needs of
  • 04:54children and families who've been
  • 04:56exposed to a host of potentially
  • 04:59traumatic events ranging from murder,
  • 05:01sexual abuse to accidental injuries,
  • 05:03an mass casualty events.
  • 05:06And we've had, we know,
  • 05:08not only from our work,
  • 05:10but from research around the world,
  • 05:13that the longer term consequences
  • 05:15are incredibly significant when
  • 05:17there's a failure of recovery from the
  • 05:20traumatic dysregulation that occurs
  • 05:21when children are exposed to the
  • 05:24kind of circumstances that I was outlining.
  • 05:27And in fact,
  • 05:28we know that two of the most significant
  • 05:31predictors of poor outcome is the
  • 05:34failure to identify affected children.
  • 05:36Or for them to receive the adequate
  • 05:39social supports that aid their recovery.
  • 05:43We know that the long term sequelae
  • 05:46I do not just include PTSD,
  • 05:49but also higher risk for substance abuse,
  • 05:52school failures,
  • 05:53anxiety disorders,
  • 05:54mood disorders,
  • 05:55and increased risk of victimization as
  • 05:57well as increased risk of perpetrating
  • 06:00the very violent circumstances to
  • 06:02which they were originally exposed.
  • 06:05We also know that there's a
  • 06:08way of changing the math.
  • 06:10We know that unrecognized.
  • 06:13Trump trauma plus being untreated
  • 06:16plus failure.
  • 06:17Recovery leads to poor outcomes.
  • 06:22We can change that math when we apply what
  • 06:25we know to increasing identification,
  • 06:28increasing early intervention,
  • 06:29and support for recovery.
  • 06:34So I want to just briefly review
  • 06:36some of the areas of work of the
  • 06:39childhood violent trauma center.
  • 06:41This includes, as Linda mentioned,
  • 06:43or child development
  • 06:45Community Policing Program,
  • 06:46a longstanding partnership with
  • 06:47police in order to better immediately
  • 06:50respond to children and families
  • 06:52impacted by traumatic events,
  • 06:53and that has led to the development of
  • 06:57a national model that has been broadly
  • 07:00disseminated here in the States and abroad.
  • 07:03It's also led to the development of an early.
  • 07:07The only early evidence based trauma
  • 07:09focused treatment for children.
  • 07:11The child and family,
  • 07:12traumatic stress intervention it has
  • 07:14led to an increased collaboration
  • 07:17with Neil New Haven Hospital's
  • 07:19pediatric emergency room and sexual
  • 07:21abuse clinic and has led to the
  • 07:23development of what is now a nationally
  • 07:26disseminated trauma informed policing
  • 07:28tool kit and training and continues
  • 07:30to involve training psychology,
  • 07:32child psychiatry and social work.
  • 07:34Fellows and trauma focused treatments.
  • 07:36As well as psychodynamic psychotherapy.
  • 07:39And through our work,
  • 07:41the center provides trauma focused cognitive,
  • 07:44behavioral therapy,
  • 07:45and psychodynamic therapy to help children
  • 07:48who need work beyond our early intervention.
  • 07:52We've also been involved in responses
  • 07:55to mass casualty events and have worked
  • 07:58closely with policy makers to take what
  • 08:01we've learned to translate into policy.
  • 08:04That includes increase the resources
  • 08:06for children and families who are
  • 08:09affected by potentially traumatic
  • 08:11experiences to aid in their recovery.
  • 08:15So very briefly,
  • 08:16the child development Community
  • 08:18Policing program began in 1991.
  • 08:21And involves and aims to increase
  • 08:23the provision of clinically relevant
  • 08:26services to children and families
  • 08:28and communities impacted by violent.
  • 08:31Another catastrophic catastrophic events.
  • 08:34And the elements involved.
  • 08:36Training for police officers.
  • 08:38Training for clinicians.
  • 08:39A 24/7 acute response consultation service
  • 08:43follow up home visits an referral for
  • 08:46clinic based trauma focused treatments.
  • 08:53What you're seeing in front of you
  • 08:55is a slide of what is now a national
  • 08:59nationally available toolkit for law
  • 09:01enforcement agencies that increase
  • 09:03the opportunities for police officers
  • 09:06to serve an important function in
  • 09:08initiating recovery by first recognizing
  • 09:11and responding in a developmentally
  • 09:13appropriate way to the children
  • 09:16and adults who are impacted by the
  • 09:18events that require police presence.
  • 09:23The child and family traumatic
  • 09:25Stress Intervention is a 5 to 8
  • 09:28evidence based early intervention.
  • 09:30That is for children who've been
  • 09:33exposed to potentially traumatic
  • 09:35event or after the recent disclosure
  • 09:37of sexual and physical abuse.
  • 09:39What's been impressive is that
  • 09:41this is really taking a family
  • 09:43strengthening approach to treatment.
  • 09:46Increasing communication
  • 09:46between child and caregivers.
  • 09:48An increasing support for children
  • 09:50impacted by traumatic events.
  • 09:52You'll see that we've developed adaptations.
  • 09:55But perhaps most significant is
  • 09:57what we've learned that CF TSI can.
  • 10:00Decrease the likelihood of
  • 10:02development of PTSD and related
  • 10:05disorders by 65 to 73% and more
  • 10:08recently we've learned that CF.
  • 10:10TSI can also significantly
  • 10:12decrease the post traumatic
  • 10:14reactions of adults involved.
  • 10:20Again, we are.
  • 10:21This is now being broadly disseminated.
  • 10:24We've now trained,
  • 10:25close to 800 providers nationally
  • 10:27and internationally,
  • 10:28and we have developed a database,
  • 10:31a research database of over 3000
  • 10:34children that we're using to
  • 10:36further evaluate the effectiveness,
  • 10:38and the active mechanisms in the
  • 10:42successful outcomes of CF TSI.
  • 10:44Damaged with develop virtual adaptations
  • 10:47of CF TSI treatment and training and
  • 10:50have shared that with CFTO site grant
  • 10:53providers around the country and abroad.
  • 10:56In response to COVID-19,
  • 10:58we have developed guidelines to help support
  • 11:01the impact of the pandemic on adults.
  • 11:04Help, we've developed guidelines
  • 11:06to help parents and caregivers
  • 11:08support their children.
  • 11:09Through COVID-19,
  • 11:10these have been broadly
  • 11:12disseminated through news media.
  • 11:14US Congress Hill, New Haven Hospital,
  • 11:16and others.
  • 11:17We've also developed along with my CF TSI Co.
  • 11:21Developer carry up steam carrying.
  • 11:23I developed the acute stress intervention.
  • 11:26For adults,
  • 11:27this is was developed in order to
  • 11:30support hospital staff in New Haven
  • 11:33who have been significantly impacted
  • 11:36by the intense experience of treating
  • 11:38the volume of COVID-19 patients,
  • 11:41and we have trained over 100 mental
  • 11:44health professionals locally who
  • 11:46are available to provide one on one.
  • 11:49Consultations for hospital staff
  • 11:52who are feeling the understandable
  • 11:54reactions to the heavy load of.
  • 11:57Their work.
  • 11:58We've also conducted an acute
  • 12:01stress intervention training for
  • 12:04over 400 mental health providers.
  • 12:07Um, both, both nationally and abroad as well.
  • 12:14And again, what we know is that
  • 12:17when reality converges with an
  • 12:19evokes our most powerful fears,
  • 12:21there's a disruption in the way
  • 12:23that our brains work and our
  • 12:26abilities to normally reduce stress,
  • 12:28not just traumatic experience,
  • 12:30but stress is undermined,
  • 12:31and it's not surprising that
  • 12:33many of us may be familiar with
  • 12:36the intensified feelings of loss
  • 12:38of control and helplessness,
  • 12:40and we see a host and may
  • 12:43have experienced a host.
  • 12:45Of of stress related symptomatic responses.
  • 12:50In the physical and semantic arenas.
  • 12:54In the cognitive arena.
  • 12:57In the affective or emotional arena.
  • 13:02And in interference with some of the
  • 13:06standard expectations of optimal behaviors.
  • 13:12So when so much of our external
  • 13:15world is in fact out of our control,
  • 13:18it's important to find
  • 13:19ways to increase control,
  • 13:21and so the guidelines that we developed
  • 13:23in much of the consultation we do with
  • 13:27our pediatric and internal medicine,
  • 13:29health care providers and others
  • 13:31has been focused on 1st helping
  • 13:33people to understand what's going
  • 13:35on with them and then to provide
  • 13:38guidelines for walking through both
  • 13:40recognizing one's own symptomatology.
  • 13:42And identifying coping strategies and why
  • 13:45these coping strategies might be effective?
  • 13:49So we've developed this first for
  • 13:52adults and then subsequently we
  • 13:54developed a guideline for parents
  • 13:57helping children to cope with COVID-19.
  • 14:00And and children's response to that
  • 14:02also help parents to better understand
  • 14:04their children and to find strategies
  • 14:06for decreasing the increased stress
  • 14:08that children may be experiencing,
  • 14:10not only as a result of the
  • 14:12fears and worries about COVID-19,
  • 14:14but also because of the enormous
  • 14:16impact that they just that the
  • 14:18disruptions have had on their lives.
  • 14:23We've, as I mentioned,
  • 14:24also developed the acute stress intervention,
  • 14:27which is a one to four session model for
  • 14:30consulting with health care providers
  • 14:32and others who may not yet need a
  • 14:35more extensive clinical involvement,
  • 14:37but are aimed to help support their
  • 14:39ability to get a better handle
  • 14:42on their symptomatic reactions
  • 14:43and to take greater control.
  • 14:48We've also, as I mentioned,
  • 14:50develop Connect virtual training,
  • 14:52which has been broadly offered to mental
  • 14:55health providers around the country,
  • 14:58so I will stop there.
  • 15:00This was meant to be a.
  • 15:05Rapid sort of introduction
  • 15:06so that we can look forward
  • 15:08to a discussion with you all,
  • 15:11and I will now turn it over if I can.
  • 15:16To my esteemed colleague Eli
  • 15:18Boards talking review, it's before
  • 15:20you before you start,
  • 15:21let me just remind everyone if
  • 15:23you have a question to please
  • 15:25put it in the chat. Mr slash.
  • 15:28I see that you were Doctor Marincin
  • 15:30and will let both speaker speak and
  • 15:33then we'll go to the questions.
  • 15:35But please use the chat and will.
  • 15:38Her and get your questions
  • 15:40answered as soon as Doctor
  • 15:42Liebowitz feeds Doctor Liebowitz.
  • 15:45Thank you. Well, thank you very much Steve.
  • 15:49And those inspiring and thank you Linda.
  • 15:51And of course thank you to each
  • 15:54and everyone of the associates.
  • 15:56All of you for joining us today and
  • 15:59for the really critical support that
  • 16:01you provide to the work that we do
  • 16:05at the Child study Center. So my.
  • 16:09The presentation is pre recorded in,
  • 16:12perhaps in a nod to the uncertainty
  • 16:14that we're all living through,
  • 16:16so I'm going to be playing a
  • 16:19pre recorded video for you,
  • 16:21but I am here and will be happy
  • 16:24to address any questions together
  • 16:26with together with Steven and Ann.
  • 16:29This is a little bit less of a
  • 16:33formal presentation and innocence.
  • 16:35You might say a reflection on this
  • 16:38past year and what we have been living
  • 16:41through and the work that we have been
  • 16:43doing to try to meet the challenges
  • 16:46that all of us have been experiencing.
  • 16:48So let me try to bring that up now.
  • 16:56OK.
  • 16:59Is that up?
  • 17:01What's up?
  • 17:03Good Ali, thank you
  • 17:04very much. OK, so you get
  • 17:06a peek at my living room.
  • 17:11Thank you for the opportunity
  • 17:13to talk with you all about
  • 17:15the work we've been doing in the
  • 17:17area of childhood anxiety disorders.
  • 17:20Even in the best of times,
  • 17:22anxiety disorders are the most
  • 17:24common mental health problems
  • 17:25in children and adolescents,
  • 17:27causing tremendous distress and
  • 17:29impairment to the lives of millions
  • 17:32of children and their families.
  • 17:34But let's face it,
  • 17:36this has not been the best of times.
  • 17:39The entire globe has been thrown
  • 17:41into turmoil by a pandemic,
  • 17:43the likes of which none of us have
  • 17:46ever seen before lives livelihoods
  • 17:48have been lost at a staggering pace,
  • 17:52and our world sometimes seems unrecognizable.
  • 17:55This country has been rocked by an
  • 17:59explosive outpouring of pain and
  • 18:01anger at injustice and unfairness.
  • 18:03These are what one might normally
  • 18:06think of as issues for adults,
  • 18:09but in 2020 no child is oblivious.
  • 18:13I think my own school aged children
  • 18:16probably know more about Epidemiology
  • 18:18today than their dad did a year ago.
  • 18:21It's now almost exactly one year
  • 18:23to the day since the first known
  • 18:27COVID-19 patient became ill.
  • 18:29In that year,
  • 18:30children's lives have changed more
  • 18:33rapidly and more dramatically than any
  • 18:35of us would have thought possible.
  • 18:38Even for children without a
  • 18:41pronounced predisposition,
  • 18:42word anxiety problems this year
  • 18:45has been anxiety provoking.
  • 18:47And for the one in three children with a
  • 18:50natural vulnerability to anxiety disorders,
  • 18:52it has been a challenge that at
  • 18:55times has seemed insurmountable.
  • 18:58Consider the ways in which anxious
  • 19:00children tend to approach the world
  • 19:03and the situations they confront.
  • 19:05We tend to shy away from change
  • 19:07and to feel most comfortable with
  • 19:10familiarity patterns, repetition.
  • 19:12They tend to dislike surprises
  • 19:15and unpredictability,
  • 19:16preferring the predictable in the
  • 19:19foreseeable whenever possible.
  • 19:20And they tend to abhor uncertainty,
  • 19:23seeking positive assurances and absolutes.
  • 19:28Change unpredictability uncertainty.
  • 19:31Maybe the three best words to
  • 19:35describe this entire year.
  • 19:38It is no surprise that so
  • 19:41many children are struggling.
  • 19:43For some,
  • 19:43the hardest part comes when their life
  • 19:46seems to change almost overnight,
  • 19:48and so many of the patterns they
  • 19:50rely on of the things they take
  • 19:52for granted as making up their
  • 19:54daily world are suddenly either
  • 19:57different or completely suspended.
  • 19:59For others, it's actually.
  • 20:00We ask them to resume a semblance
  • 20:03of normality that they seem to
  • 20:05struggle the most for the child with
  • 20:08separation anxiety disorder who's not
  • 20:10been separated from his parents for
  • 20:13months because there's really nowhere to go.
  • 20:16Going back to school can seem daunting,
  • 20:19and for the child with
  • 20:21social anxiety disorder,
  • 20:22who's been socially distancing
  • 20:23and even isolating at home,
  • 20:25walking back into a classroom
  • 20:27can feel overwhelming.
  • 20:31The anxiety and Mood Disorders program
  • 20:33under the leadership of Doctor Wendy
  • 20:36Silverman and the broader clinical
  • 20:37services of the Yale Child Study Center
  • 20:40has taken an active role in helping
  • 20:42children and families face this challenge.
  • 20:45As a program that was already providing
  • 20:48Tele treatment to many families,
  • 20:51we were uniquely poised to transition to
  • 20:54a completely online model and to continue
  • 20:57to provide therapy and consultation.
  • 20:59Through countless interviews on radio
  • 21:01and television and print and online,
  • 21:04we have been there to offer guidance and
  • 21:07support to parents struggling to adapt to
  • 21:10the new and constantly changing realities.
  • 21:13We help parents.
  • 21:14Sessions consulted the schools.
  • 21:16One remote learning as well as the
  • 21:19return to classrooms and we held online
  • 21:22webinars and information sessions for
  • 21:24both the lay and professional Publix.
  • 21:27But this year hasn't only been
  • 21:29about bad news,
  • 21:30even while we juggled the
  • 21:31shutting down and reopening of our
  • 21:34in person clinical services,
  • 21:35we continued to make strides in our
  • 21:38key missions of research and education.
  • 21:40With funding from NIH,
  • 21:42we completed the first ever clinical
  • 21:44trial of childhood anxiety disorders
  • 21:47that used brain imaging before and after
  • 21:49treatment to learn about what changes
  • 21:51in a child's brain due to treatment.
  • 21:56The clinical study focused on a
  • 21:58parent based treatment called space
  • 22:00or supportive parenting for anxious
  • 22:02childhood emotions that we developed
  • 22:05here at the Child Study Center.
  • 22:07Space focuses on teaching parents
  • 22:09to respond to their child's anxiety
  • 22:12symptoms in a supportive manner,
  • 22:14showing them both genuine acceptance
  • 22:16of their distress as well as confidence
  • 22:20in the child's ability to cope with
  • 22:22and to tolerate that distress.
  • 22:25Parents in space learn to systematically
  • 22:28reduce the accommodations that
  • 22:30they've been making to the child.
  • 22:32Symptoms allowing the return of
  • 22:35normal functioning and healthier
  • 22:37interactions in relationships.
  • 22:39In a previous randomized clinical
  • 22:41trial of space,
  • 22:42we compared it with cognitive
  • 22:44behavioral therapy and found that
  • 22:46space was just as efficacious as
  • 22:48working directly with the child.
  • 22:50The findings from that study were
  • 22:52published in the Journal of the
  • 22:55American Academy of Child and
  • 22:57Adolescent Psychiatry one year ago,
  • 22:58and became the most cited article in
  • 23:01the Journal during that past year.
  • 23:05In the study we just completed the findings
  • 23:08of which are not even published yet.
  • 23:11Children looked at images while we
  • 23:14used functional magnetic resonance
  • 23:16imaging or fMRI to observe patterns
  • 23:18of activity in their brains.
  • 23:20We did this both before the start of
  • 23:23their first treatment and after they
  • 23:26ended their last treatment session.
  • 23:28By comparing brain activity when the
  • 23:31child lay alone in the scanner to
  • 23:33brain activation when their mother
  • 23:35stood nearby and held their hand,
  • 23:38we were able to observe just how dependent
  • 23:41each child was on their attachment,
  • 23:43figure their mother to regulate
  • 23:46their fear and anxiety.
  • 23:48Following space treatment compared
  • 23:50with the control comparison condition,
  • 23:52children were significantly better relabel
  • 23:54to regulate their own fear independently,
  • 23:57and they were less reliant on their parents
  • 24:01for family accommodation and less anxious.
  • 24:05We're continuing this research
  • 24:07and yet another clinical trial.
  • 24:10This year has also been one of tremendous
  • 24:13progress in the dissemination of our
  • 24:15work to a broader and broader audience.
  • 24:18News about the new parent based treatment
  • 24:21for child anxiety out of the Yale Child
  • 24:24Study Center has received attention
  • 24:26everywhere from NPR to the Atlantic,
  • 24:29to CNN and countless other news sources.
  • 24:33Let me share with you one example
  • 24:35from a local news channel.
  • 24:37Going to the National Institutes of Health,
  • 24:40the number of kids struggling with anxiety,
  • 24:42depression and other mental health
  • 24:44conditions has steadily been underlines.
  • 24:46That's right,
  • 24:46therapy and medication may help,
  • 24:48but for some kids and their families,
  • 24:50that's little relief. Tonight.
  • 24:52Now Anderson tells us how researchers
  • 24:55are studying a new method that
  • 24:57helps parents help their children.
  • 24:59Bedtime for some families
  • 25:00can become a struggle,
  • 25:01but when the goodnight routine
  • 25:03for Nicole Murphy's son began to
  • 25:06stretch for up to three hours,
  • 25:08she knew she needed help
  • 25:09with his separation anxiety.
  • 25:13Non stop, so it's kind of hard.
  • 25:17Allie Liebowitz and his colleagues
  • 25:18at the Yale Child Study Center
  • 25:20developed a method of training
  • 25:22parents to support anxious children.
  • 25:24It's called space or supportive
  • 25:26parenting for anxious childhood emotions.
  • 25:28Parents go through training to help
  • 25:30their child face anxiety level.
  • 25:32It says the first step is to
  • 25:34show support and not downplay
  • 25:36what their child is feeling.
  • 25:38I did it.
  • 25:39This is really hard but I know
  • 25:42you can handle it label. It
  • 25:44says. Parents also learn to help their
  • 25:46child by not accommodating them.
  • 25:49For example, a parent who would
  • 25:51limit visitors for a child who gets
  • 25:53anxious around strangers or speaks for
  • 25:55a child who gets nervous speaking,
  • 25:58learns not to take those steps in the
  • 26:01study of 124 kids and their parents.
  • 26:03The Yale researchers examined whether
  • 26:05the space intervention was effective
  • 26:07in treating children's anxiety even
  • 26:09though the children never met directly
  • 26:11with the therapist and all the work
  • 26:13was done for the
  • 26:15parents, we found that
  • 26:16space was just
  • 26:17as effective as CBT. In
  • 26:19treating childhood anxiety disorders.
  • 26:21The Monkees used the techniques learned
  • 26:24through space to coach their sign
  • 26:26through bedtime within a few weeks.
  • 26:28He was falling asleep in 30 minutes.
  • 26:30It was practically like like
  • 26:32changing constant for news 10.
  • 26:34I'm Mallory Anderson,
  • 26:35reporting Mallory.
  • 26:35Thank you For more information about
  • 26:37space or to find a practitioner in Michigan,
  • 26:40click on the links in this
  • 26:42article on our website.
  • 26:45It's so brief, but in just under 2 minutes
  • 26:48parents can learn some key points that
  • 26:51can have long lasting impact on their
  • 26:54children's anxiety and development.
  • 26:56Therapists around the world have also
  • 26:59been eager to learn how to deliver
  • 27:01space treatment in their own work,
  • 27:03and we have held training workshops
  • 27:05each month so that hundreds of
  • 27:08clinicians around the world can now
  • 27:10offer space as another option for
  • 27:12helping children and families impacted
  • 27:14by childhood anxiety disorders.
  • 27:17Recently we received a grant from
  • 27:19the National Institutes of Health
  • 27:21to continue the work of studying
  • 27:23this treatment and its impacts on
  • 27:26child anxiety and brain functioning.
  • 27:28In other areas of research,
  • 27:30we're making exciting discoveries with
  • 27:32the potential to inform future treatments.
  • 27:34One example is our work in the
  • 27:37fibroblast growth factor system.
  • 27:38This system was first shown in animal
  • 27:41studies that we linked to behavioral and
  • 27:44biological models of anxiety and depression.
  • 27:47We conducted the first study of this
  • 27:50potential novel biomarker in human
  • 27:52children with anxiety and depression,
  • 27:54and the findings are consistent
  • 27:56with what was shown in rodents.
  • 27:59Fibroblast growth factor 2,
  • 28:01which plays important roles in brain
  • 28:03development and in the generation
  • 28:05of neurons throughout life,
  • 28:07is linked to symptoms of anxiety
  • 28:10and depression in children.
  • 28:12One thing that makes this research
  • 28:15so exciting is that the fiberglassed
  • 28:17system is not targeted by any
  • 28:20current treatments for anxiety.
  • 28:22Discovering a new layer of the
  • 28:25biological infrastructure underlying
  • 28:27anxiety problems could lead to an
  • 28:30entirely new class of treatments for
  • 28:33these common and debilitating problems.
  • 28:36So it has been a difficult year for all
  • 28:40of us are year truly unlike any other.
  • 28:43But the Child study Center and the
  • 28:46anxiety program have been there
  • 28:48throughout doing what we can to help
  • 28:50children and families struggling
  • 28:52today and learning what we can to help
  • 28:55children and families in the future.
  • 28:58Thank you.
  • 29:07So thank you Doctor Liebowitz and
  • 29:09Doctor Mehrens we now have two
  • 29:11questions in the chat which I'd
  • 29:12like to and I encourage encourage
  • 29:15everyone to either speak up and ask
  • 29:17questions or put them in the chat.
  • 29:20The first one, Steven was about
  • 29:22your work and there are any other
  • 29:25providers trained in your model
  • 29:27serving young people impacted by
  • 29:29family home destruction such as the
  • 29:32Hurricanes or wildfires or earthquakes.
  • 29:34So would you like to address that?
  • 29:37Yes, so many of the things that
  • 29:39we're doing in the midst of of
  • 29:41COVID-19 in terms of the broad
  • 29:44public health approach was which is
  • 29:47about increasing information and
  • 29:49strategies for the broad populist.
  • 29:51Have been applied in past hurricanes
  • 29:54and and other catastrophic natural
  • 29:58catastrophic events, and.
  • 30:00They are available currently,
  • 30:02as well as folks who are trained in CF
  • 30:06Geosci in affected areas are employing
  • 30:09CF TSI for families who are able to
  • 30:14have access to those clinical services.
  • 30:19Thank you Ann.
  • 30:22Doctor Califon oh has asked both of you.
  • 30:24Could you speak to your thoughts
  • 30:26about the next stage of the
  • 30:28pandemic that we are actually
  • 30:29in the mid staff and what you
  • 30:32would anticipate the next level
  • 30:33of needs might be and how all of
  • 30:35us as clinicians should respond.
  • 30:38I only wanted to take that first.
  • 30:43Thank you.
  • 30:46I, I think we're actually entering where are
  • 30:50in a really critical phase of this entire.
  • 30:54Saga when it comes to mental health needs,
  • 30:58and not only because of the increasing
  • 31:01empirical evidence for the frequency of
  • 31:04mental health problems among individuals
  • 31:06who are diagnosed with COVID-19.
  • 31:09And there has been some really troubling
  • 31:13research around the prevalence of those
  • 31:16of mental health problems among people who
  • 31:20do get covid but also the cause of the.
  • 31:26The wear and tear in a sense that
  • 31:30repeated and long-term challenges have,
  • 31:33you know, many of us, really.
  • 31:39Shine in the initial moments of crisis.
  • 31:42It is true that many will struggle,
  • 31:45but many will also.
  • 31:47China those sure shorter term initial
  • 31:50moments of crisis we we may recruit
  • 31:53resources we may rise to the occasion,
  • 31:56but that gets increasingly
  • 31:58harder to do as time goes by.
  • 32:01And as we cycle through
  • 32:05another another cycle of.
  • 32:07Loss in many cases,
  • 32:09many children are going to be
  • 32:11experiencing the loss of family members,
  • 32:14loved ones and relatives and also repeated
  • 32:18cycles of loss of our of all those
  • 32:21things that make up our daily lives.
  • 32:24And I think that we're going to see
  • 32:28tremendous need in in children as they.
  • 32:32You know,
  • 32:32come to terms with this new phase,
  • 32:35an everything that it's going
  • 32:37to mean and we don't even yet.
  • 32:39No what it is going to mean for
  • 32:42different places around the country
  • 32:44and we're going to see tremendous
  • 32:46need in parents who are going to
  • 32:48be coping themselves with all of
  • 32:50the obligations that they have.
  • 32:52Whether those are financial,
  • 32:54physical,
  • 32:54health related and the requirements
  • 32:56of their children.
  • 32:57So what I think we can foresee
  • 32:59is really a high level of.
  • 33:02Need and and I think we need to be.
  • 33:05Braced for that because it's
  • 33:07going to be substantial.
  • 33:10So I would agree with
  • 33:12everything that they do.
  • 33:14We're just saying Ellie and I would.
  • 33:16I would add just a few a few comments.
  • 33:20One is that no right now we are
  • 33:23confronted with and in the midst of
  • 33:25a of a huge resurgence that brings
  • 33:28home not only the threat of death,
  • 33:30but continued disruption an
  • 33:32that fear and helplessness.
  • 33:34Is are powerful enough factors,
  • 33:37but the length of time that people have
  • 33:41been sustaining the impact of COVID-19
  • 33:44also can lead to 1/3 ingredient,
  • 33:47which is a sense of hopelessness.
  • 33:50Fortunately,
  • 33:50the announcement about the vaccines
  • 33:53can help to hopefully offset the
  • 33:56impact of that latter factor,
  • 33:59but there's no more time and
  • 34:02no harder time than now.
  • 34:04After this long haul to recognize the
  • 34:07extent to which we are all impacted.
  • 34:11There is a version of Covid fatigue
  • 34:14that makes us want to turn away,
  • 34:17including from our own experiences
  • 34:19that in turn has implications
  • 34:22not only for us as adults but
  • 34:25also for adults as parents.
  • 34:27And so again,
  • 34:28the idea of our task of being able to
  • 34:31increase and focus attention not only
  • 34:34on individuals ability to identify that
  • 34:37what they're experiencing is normal,
  • 34:40but not nice.
  • 34:41But there are also some ways of
  • 34:43attending to structured approaches
  • 34:45to mitigating the impact and
  • 34:48the symptoms that follow is
  • 34:51especially important right now.
  • 34:55Thank you Steve and Eli.
  • 34:57There is a question from Julie
  • 34:59Klingenstein, can you provide a link
  • 35:01to the space guidance for parents?
  • 35:05Yes, in fact I will write a link.
  • 35:08I'll say it, but I will write a
  • 35:10link in the chat because maybe that
  • 35:13will be even easier. So I just did.
  • 35:16So the best place to get information
  • 35:18relating to space treatment is on
  • 35:21the website spacetreatment.net,
  • 35:23which I maintain. Any resources?
  • 35:26There's information for professionals
  • 35:28who are interested in becoming trained,
  • 35:30but there's also many resources for
  • 35:32parents and others on the Resource tab.
  • 35:35There are links to both books
  • 35:37and research articles,
  • 35:38as well as many media articles
  • 35:40like I mentioned in the video,
  • 35:42and there are also forums where
  • 35:45parents and professionals can
  • 35:46interact and write and get advice
  • 35:48and connect with each other,
  • 35:50so that's the best place to
  • 35:52visit for information about space
  • 35:54is really space treatment.
  • 35:58And also another question,
  • 35:59is there a specific age range that the
  • 36:01interventions are best suited for?
  • 36:02And I think that actually in many ways
  • 36:04could go to both of you, but Eli,
  • 36:06do you want to start? Sure, so.
  • 36:11We have conducted clinical trials of
  • 36:13space across a fairly broad age range,
  • 36:16with the youngest study being
  • 36:18in preschool age children.
  • 36:19So we're talking about
  • 36:21children ages three and four.
  • 36:23Proximately we've done several clinical
  • 36:25trials in school age children,
  • 36:26so like 6 through early adolescence,
  • 36:29and we even have worked with not just
  • 36:31older parents of older adolescents,
  • 36:34but using a version of space,
  • 36:36even with parents of adult children
  • 36:38who struggle with anxiety and other
  • 36:40mental health problems and remain highly
  • 36:43impaired and dependent on their parents.
  • 36:45And unable to function independently
  • 36:47as adults in in the world.
  • 36:49So really, across a fairly broad
  • 36:51age range with with the most
  • 36:53research focusing on school age.
  • 36:56Steven, do you want to comment about CF
  • 37:00TSI or others other inventions? Well,
  • 37:03I think that the what's what's really
  • 37:05quite wonderful about the CF TSI
  • 37:08dissemination is that we've worked
  • 37:10with organizations like the National
  • 37:13Children's Alliance that has helped to
  • 37:16proliferate the the number of clinicians
  • 37:18who are trained in offering CF TSI
  • 37:21and the National Children's Alliance
  • 37:23represents 900 child advocacy centers.
  • 37:26These are centers that deal with children.
  • 37:30Who are sexually or physically abused,
  • 37:32and we're also working closely with our
  • 37:35colleagues in a network of pediatric
  • 37:38emergency rooms to increase the
  • 37:41availability of C FTSI to children
  • 37:44who are seen because of of injuries
  • 37:46or because they have witnessed
  • 37:48terrible events that bring their
  • 37:51parents to the emergency Department.
  • 37:53We are also working on evaluating a version
  • 37:57of CFT aside for three to six year olds.
  • 38:01And that work is is continuing apace,
  • 38:05in spite of the the pandemic.
  • 38:09I think I would direct this question
  • 38:12to both of you as we are waiting for
  • 38:15other questions to come to the chat as
  • 38:17we've had to switch over to Tele Health
  • 38:20and converted so many services that
  • 38:22converted all of our services to that.
  • 38:24Could you both comment on the differences?
  • 38:27The advantages disadvantages that you've seen
  • 38:28in the models that you're speaking about.
  • 38:34Ellie, why don't
  • 38:35you start and I'll chime in after your
  • 38:37soul and I want to
  • 38:39be clear. I understand the question.
  • 38:41So the delivery of CF TSI,
  • 38:43for example through virtual
  • 38:45means or the delivery of
  • 38:47space through virtual means.
  • 38:48What are the advantages and
  • 38:50disadvantages that you've seen?
  • 38:53Well, with younger children under
  • 38:55under five and six, it's harder,
  • 38:58but with with the older kids it's
  • 39:00it's really been quite interesting.
  • 39:03In some ways it actually provides a special
  • 39:06time for a child and parent to be together
  • 39:10because it is a con joint treatment,
  • 39:13so that above and beyond the efficacy
  • 39:16and treating post traumatic symptoms,
  • 39:19the opportunity to be together
  • 39:21in the midst of of.
  • 39:23It is often very busy.
  • 39:26Households has its advantages.
  • 39:27We've also actually seen an increase
  • 39:30in continuity of engagement,
  • 39:32and we think in part because some of
  • 39:36the additional burdens of coming to the
  • 39:39clinic and juggling work schedules, etc.
  • 39:42As has been decreased,
  • 39:44we've actually been quite impressed with
  • 39:47not only the the number of families that
  • 39:51have been able to engage during the.
  • 39:55Covid pandemic,
  • 39:56but also equally impressed by
  • 39:58the fact that there are so.
  • 40:00More children who are currently
  • 40:02being exposed to increases in
  • 40:04domestic violence abuse and other
  • 40:06potentially traumatic experiences,
  • 40:08and it is good fortune,
  • 40:10not only in New Haven but around
  • 40:12the country that children and
  • 40:14families have an opportunity to
  • 40:17be treated early and to recover.
  • 40:22Kelly, you have thought.
  • 40:24Yes, well, first of all it is such
  • 40:27an important question because the we
  • 40:30we love meeting in person with with
  • 40:33our patients and really appreciate
  • 40:35that sort of direct connection
  • 40:38that in in person meeting provides.
  • 40:41However, we're also really keenly
  • 40:43aware of the barriers that the need
  • 40:46to meet in person puts in place,
  • 40:49even in a non covid world.
  • 40:52Whether that is distance,
  • 40:54not everybody lives.
  • 40:55In close proximity to a skilled therapist,
  • 40:58whether that is time right having
  • 40:59to go to a meeting in person triples
  • 41:02the time at least typically wear for
  • 41:05many patients 'cause you have to get
  • 41:08there and you have to get back and it
  • 41:10has other costs like transportation,
  • 41:13parking and things like that.
  • 41:14And so being able to provide treatment
  • 41:17to people even outside of kovid.
  • 41:19Even putting that aside,
  • 41:20being able to provide treatment remotely
  • 41:23is actually a really important goal,
  • 41:25and because of that.
  • 41:26We were actually doing space over
  • 41:28talent even before the pandemic.
  • 41:30We offered it as an option to all
  • 41:33the families that we were seeing
  • 41:35through the program and many of
  • 41:37them collected to do it that way,
  • 41:39which meant that any we had good
  • 41:41practice and be we had good data
  • 41:43and it showed us that we can do
  • 41:46this treatment efficaciously now
  • 41:48during social distancing.
  • 41:49Of course it made it easier for
  • 41:52us to transition to doing all of
  • 41:54our work in over over Taylor,
  • 41:56although now we are.
  • 41:57Active providing and hope and
  • 41:59I hope we are able to continue
  • 42:02providing at least some in person,
  • 42:04but we were well positioned for it
  • 42:06and space itself lends itself to
  • 42:08Tele treatment in a way that not
  • 42:11every therapy does. It is hard.
  • 42:13I won't say it's impossible,
  • 42:15but it is hard to do play therapy over.
  • 42:18Tell it you know, with with a young child,
  • 42:21that's that's a challenging thing for sure.
  • 42:24Space is done with parents.
  • 42:26It's a meeting between a therapist and.
  • 42:28One or two adults,
  • 42:29and that means that it is easier
  • 42:31to do now we have learned a little
  • 42:33bit about what it requires.
  • 42:35We do need to still treat it as
  • 42:37a therapy session.
  • 42:38We can't do it while people are
  • 42:40waiting in line at the supermarket.
  • 42:42Or, you know, working out at the at the gym.
  • 42:44But we are able to do it.
  • 42:46And this treatment.
  • 42:47I really do think lends itself to
  • 42:49that kind of modality in a way that
  • 42:51not every therapy actually does
  • 42:53that we're very happy with the
  • 42:55ability to do space over overtime,
  • 42:56and we will continue to offer
  • 42:58it as an option even when social
  • 43:00distancing is no longer.
  • 43:01Are required.
  • 43:03Yeah, I just had to add one other
  • 43:06comment that with CF TSI we had been
  • 43:09struggling prior to the pandemic about
  • 43:11how to address the needs of families
  • 43:14in rural communities or where there is
  • 43:17a paucity of mental health services.
  • 43:19And in many ways learning quickly how
  • 43:22to adapt CF TSI to a virtual format has
  • 43:25actually solved an enormous problem that
  • 43:28is now making safety sign much more
  • 43:31available regardless of families locations.
  • 43:33Guess even add tongue Israel.
  • 43:35Thank you for the comment that these
  • 43:37great programs work well in New Haven.
  • 43:40Are you also asking do
  • 43:41they work well elsewhere,
  • 43:43which I'm assuming would be the.
  • 43:46Implication of the question.
  • 43:48Stephen Lady want to talk
  • 43:50about dissemination?
  • 43:50I think you both touched a little bit on it,
  • 43:53but maybe to make it more explicit.
  • 43:57Yeah, I, I think that number one
  • 44:00being able to we've been doing in
  • 44:02person trainings for many many years
  • 44:05in which we both travel to other
  • 44:08States and other countries to do
  • 44:10in person training an we have a an
  • 44:13annual training that brings people
  • 44:15together from around the country
  • 44:17and sometimes from around the world.
  • 44:19Every year in New Haven.
  • 44:21Since the pandemic we've continued
  • 44:23our trainings an we've learned
  • 44:26how to we've developed a virtual
  • 44:28training approach that.
  • 44:29We conducted a virtual training this
  • 44:32summer involving 75 clinicians from around
  • 44:35the country and several from abroad,
  • 44:37and we're about to do a round of
  • 44:40training for Scandinavian countries
  • 44:42and Eastern European countries
  • 44:44several months down the road.
  • 44:47So actually that part has been very doable.
  • 44:51There's ongoing consultation that has is
  • 44:53done telephonically as well as virtually,
  • 44:56which is always been part of CFT assign.
  • 45:00With regard to the policing trauma,
  • 45:02informed policing,
  • 45:03not every community has a child study center.
  • 45:06None of the every community has the
  • 45:08opportunity to engage in this kind
  • 45:10of partnership that we've done in New
  • 45:13Haven and that other communities have.
  • 45:15It's one of the reasons that we developed
  • 45:17the trauma informed Policing tool kit
  • 45:20in conjunction with the international
  • 45:22associations of the Chiefs of Police,
  • 45:24which is now just been turned into an
  • 45:26interactive web web based training for
  • 45:29police officers around the country.
  • 45:31This training has now been approved
  • 45:33in 35 states for officers to engage
  • 45:36in this training and it enhances
  • 45:39their ability to affectively respond
  • 45:41to children and families in the
  • 45:44throes of traumatic experiences,
  • 45:45even in the absence of of clinical partners.
  • 45:49We're also working with Saint Louis,
  • 45:52virtually to replicate CD CP,
  • 45:54and they have the wonderful
  • 45:56advantage of also having a Contra
  • 45:59of clinicians who are trained in CF
  • 46:02TSI so there's a seamless response.
  • 46:05From the police interaction to
  • 46:08the clinical recovery efforts
  • 46:11available through CF TSI.
  • 46:13Thank
  • 46:14you Steve and Eli. Do you want to talk
  • 46:15about dissemination and replication?
  • 46:19So a lot of my answer is echoes.
  • 46:22The first half of of Stevens answer
  • 46:24in terms of the training that we
  • 46:27continue to provide over over Tele.
  • 46:29And we really are training
  • 46:31people from around the world.
  • 46:33In fact, people do visit that website
  • 46:36thespacetreatment.net website.
  • 46:36You can. There's a searchable list
  • 46:39of space trained providers and it's
  • 46:41searchable not only by state in the US,
  • 46:44but by country because there are
  • 46:46providers now around the world.
  • 46:48And because we continue to provide
  • 46:50consultation and remaining.
  • 46:51Respondents with providers from many places.
  • 46:53We also get a lot of feedback and
  • 46:55are able to think through things
  • 46:58like cultural adaptations of the
  • 47:00treatment to different places.
  • 47:01We have providers who are doing
  • 47:03space in the Middle East and we
  • 47:06have providers who are doing space
  • 47:08in multiple countries in Asia and.
  • 47:11Australia and many other places.
  • 47:14Europe and and.
  • 47:15And so we learn a lot about what
  • 47:17refinements may be necessary
  • 47:19for different cultures,
  • 47:21but the But the short version of the
  • 47:24answer would be that it is applied
  • 47:27successfully in by by providers really
  • 47:29from a very broad variety of low cats.
  • 47:35Have you seen any cultural differences
  • 47:37in the efficacious or efficacy?
  • 47:41We have not had no.
  • 47:42I don't think we've seen
  • 47:43differences in efficacy.
  • 47:44I think the efficacy has been
  • 47:46maintained and preserved in the
  • 47:47different places and I should say
  • 47:49that not everywhere where it is done,
  • 47:51it is done in the context of research.
  • 47:53There are many providers and programs
  • 47:55and clinics that are doing it and not
  • 47:57necessarily doing clinical trials,
  • 47:58but those that and there we get more
  • 48:00anecdotal feedback from the providers,
  • 48:02but where we have actual clinical trial data,
  • 48:04we actually see similar levels of efficacy,
  • 48:06but we do need to be thoughtful
  • 48:08about culture and that is true when
  • 48:10we're working in the United States.
  • 48:12Even if you're just working here in
  • 48:14New Haven, it's always a mistake.
  • 48:16That one's own culture is the culture,
  • 48:19and so we have to be sensitive to
  • 48:21cultural differences when we're
  • 48:23working right here locally and when
  • 48:25we're working in places where it's
  • 48:28a lot easier to keep that in mind.
  • 48:30And where were more obvious?
  • 48:34So Doctor Patalano has put
  • 48:36a question in the chair.
  • 48:38Ellie, can you see it?
  • 48:40Do some parents insist that you
  • 48:41meet with their parents to be
  • 48:43sure that they're not missing
  • 48:45any of their child's problems?
  • 48:49OK, I do see it, but I think he
  • 48:52added not be with their parents as
  • 48:53in the grand no no that was an auto correct
  • 48:56meeting with their child sorry Ellie.
  • 48:59Got it. Good question,
  • 49:02although by the way we do me
  • 49:05grandparents, not all that.
  • 49:06But do your two year
  • 49:08question whenever possible.
  • 49:09Our assessment involves the
  • 49:11child as well as the parent,
  • 49:13and so we do think that a thorough
  • 49:16comprehensive evaluation and
  • 49:17assessment should, whenever possible,
  • 49:18not be only parent based.
  • 49:20But we should meet with the child and
  • 49:23we do as a regular practice and so
  • 49:26that absolutely informs the treatment.
  • 49:28The only thing to add to it though,
  • 49:31is that one.
  • 49:32Of the advantages of having as as an option,
  • 49:36having an entirely parent based
  • 49:38treatment is there for those cases where
  • 49:41meeting with the child directly is
  • 49:43not feasible because the OR assessing
  • 49:45the child directly is not feasible.
  • 49:48Sometimes that is because the child
  • 49:50is unwilling to participate directly
  • 49:52with a contact with the therapist.
  • 49:55Sometimes they are unable that maybe they're
  • 49:58not verbal or have other issues that.
  • 50:00Clude they're act evaluation
  • 50:02in those situations,
  • 50:03having a treatment option that can be
  • 50:06effectively applied only through parent
  • 50:07work is actually a tremendous advantage,
  • 50:10but in in the routine normal
  • 50:12course of our work,
  • 50:13we regularly assess the child
  • 50:15directly as well as the parent,
  • 50:18even when the intervention is
  • 50:20going to focus on parents.
  • 50:23Thanks
  • 50:23very much. Thank
  • 50:24you so we have time being respectful of
  • 50:27everyone's time on this virtual space.
  • 50:29We have time for couple of more questions.
  • 50:32Looking to the chat but also again if you
  • 50:35would like just shout your question out.
  • 50:46And just to give a preview of
  • 50:49where we're headed tomorrow,
  • 50:50we will talk about school based services
  • 50:53and delivery of services within schools.
  • 50:55The impact of Covid on those services
  • 50:57and and how we're thinking about
  • 51:00education in a covid environment.
  • 51:02On Wednesday we will talk about diversity,
  • 51:05equity and inclusion,
  • 51:06what we're doing in the Child study center
  • 51:09in response to what many have called
  • 51:12another pandemic social injustice over the
  • 51:14summer and continuing in all of these things,
  • 51:17will tie together.
  • 51:18We hope and there will be opportunities
  • 51:21on Thursday for further questions, but.
  • 51:23Please if you have other questions.
  • 51:29As I say, shout them or put
  • 51:31them in the chat. Trump.
  • 51:35And Steve, can you hear me? Yes,
  • 51:38I think in the you know I'm NYC centric,
  • 51:42although we're living in Westchester
  • 51:44since March 11th, but I still love
  • 51:47New York City and I work with an
  • 51:50organization that not for profit
  • 51:52that deals with the people of the.
  • 51:57It's in the
  • 51:58work situations and was policing is a
  • 52:01big issue these days and I believe at
  • 52:04some point you had reached out to them,
  • 52:07or like someone tried to put you
  • 52:10together with a very unsuccessful result.
  • 52:13I may be wrong on that. But what?
  • 52:18If any communication do you have with New
  • 52:21York City, which as you probably know,
  • 52:23the crime rate has more than doubled,
  • 52:26you know, during covid it's down from its
  • 52:29peak of several years ago, but it's it's.
  • 52:32On everybody's mind,
  • 52:34then there's everybody,
  • 52:35gets forced indoors and gets crazy.
  • 52:38Or crime is only going to get
  • 52:41worse and New York City certainly
  • 52:44need your kind of help, yeah,
  • 52:47so we are in regular contact with
  • 52:50colleagues in New York and you know,
  • 52:53the good news is Tom,
  • 52:55that that actually the NYPD did
  • 52:58move ahead with with training and
  • 53:01developed a specialized unit.
  • 53:03Under the domestic violence
  • 53:04section of of the Department,
  • 53:06all of those officers have been
  • 53:09trained and they are now working
  • 53:11with colleagues that we've trained
  • 53:13in CF TSI as well as cute response
  • 53:16protocols from Safe Horizon,
  • 53:18which covers the five boroughs,
  • 53:20and they have actually been
  • 53:22incredibly active.
  • 53:22You're absolutely right,
  • 53:24and by the way,
  • 53:25the one of the training that we did
  • 53:28in the acute stress intervention for
  • 53:30adults was hosted by the Columbia
  • 53:33School for Social Work and involved.
  • 53:361400 mental health providers
  • 53:37from around the city and the
  • 53:39country and internationally.
  • 53:41So yes,
  • 53:41many of us have very close ties
  • 53:44to New York City and and continue
  • 53:47to work closely with them.
  • 53:49The challenges to policing
  • 53:51in this country are enormous.
  • 53:53Hopefully there will be an opportunity
  • 53:55in the coming years to return to
  • 53:58some of the basic police reforms
  • 54:01that were in fact driven by a
  • 54:03very different model of policing.
  • 54:05Then some of the symptoms of
  • 54:08the the poor forms of or models
  • 54:11of policing that we've seen too
  • 54:14many examples of recently,
  • 54:16and we hope to be very involved in the
  • 54:19discussions of moving things forward
  • 54:21in a in a much more productive,
  • 54:25Humane, and just fashion.
  • 54:28Thank you Steven. Healthy planet.
  • 54:33So I'm going to put in the chat.
  • 54:37Well, trying to put in the chat here.
  • 54:41That's the link to the ongoing virtual
  • 54:44poster session that's you can visit
  • 54:46anytime over the week where we have
  • 54:48posters from across the center,
  • 54:50and some of them are actually narrated
  • 54:53by the developers of those posters.
  • 54:55We will meet tomorrow in the
  • 54:57virtual space again at 2:00 o'clock
  • 54:59to talk about education,
  • 55:01our programs in schools in this time of
  • 55:04kovid and have four of our colleagues who
  • 55:07are working in schools to speak with us.
  • 55:10Again, I just want to thank all of
  • 55:13the associates for your support for
  • 55:15your joining us on this inaugural
  • 55:17virtual event and look forward to
  • 55:18you being with us through the week.
  • 55:21So thank you.
  • 55:22Thank you so much and
  • 55:23Linda, just to just to have one.
  • 55:25One thing, if people are
  • 55:27interested in seeing or having
  • 55:28available the guidelines that we
  • 55:30developed for adults and kids,
  • 55:32we will make sure that they
  • 55:34are available to you if you
  • 55:35give it to a Steven, we can actually
  • 55:38disseminate it even tomorrow or Sunday.
  • 55:41Excellent, I'll forward
  • 55:42it to Rosemary fantastic.
  • 55:43Alright, thanks so much so thanks everyone.
  • 55:46Thank you all. See you tomorrow.